Moving Beyond Second Life: Opportunities for Education, NonProfits & Healthcare in the Wider Metaverse, January 18th NPC Meeting

This Friday, January 18th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Chris Collins (Fleep Tuque). An ardent supporter of the Second Life platform for many years, she now encourages educators, non-profits, and healthcare providers to explore the emerging metaverse outside Second Life’s walls. Fleep will discuss her own experiences running not-for-profit projects in Second Life, and what led her to explore alternative platforms like Opensimulator and Unity3D for her research at the University of Cincinnati and for personal projects like FleepGrid, an Opensim hypergrid enabled research grid. She’ll also discuss why she believes this broader approach helped AvaCon, Inc. receive 501(c)(3) status, and what this might mean for grant-based and other funding initiatives that public sector organizations rely upon.     

Chris M. Collins, Fleep Tuque in Second Life

Bio: Chris M. Collins (Fleep Tuque) is an IT Analyst at the University of Cincinnati.  Her research focuses on the use of virtual worlds, social media, and augmented reality in higher education and for remote workforce collaboration.  She founded and currently manages the Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research in the UC Office for Information Technology (UCIT), Instructional & Research Computing department.

In her free time, she serves on the board of AvaCon, Inc., a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting the growth, enhancement, and development of the metaverse, virtual worlds, augmented reality, and 3D immersive and virtual spaces. AvaCon’s primary goal is to connect and support the diverse communities and practitioners involved in co-creating and using virtual worlds, and to educate the public and our constituents about the emerging ecosystem of technologies broadly known as the metaverse.

Her other projects include running FleepGrid, a small hyperlinked research grid on the OpenSim platform, serving as Executive Director for the Chilbo Community in Second Life, and she blogs informally about the impact of technology on education, politics, and economics at Fleep’s Deep Thoughts.

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, January 18th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater



  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Chris Collins (Fleep Tuque)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of the January 11th NPC Meeting: Future Trends in Technology – Part 2

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team


[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:50 am Mentors Central – Zinnia Zauber
  • 9:00 am Future Trends in Technology – Part 2
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements


[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting. 


Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:





[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome and let’s start off with Introductions!

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.

[08:36] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing featuring missing persons: and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:36] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:36] PeopleWatching (mizaru33): Is voice working? Or do I need to relog?

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: We are in chat, People.

[08:36] Gentle Heron: no voice here

[08:36] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL Social Research Foundation, NYC in RL

[08:36] Gentle Heron: only text

[08:36] PeopleWatching (mizaru33): ahh ok

[08:36] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability

[08:36] PeopleWatching (mizaru33): 🙂 Thank you Gentle.

[08:37] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1.Inc., Baltimore MD,, , @PY1US

[08:37] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup Global, SF CA, @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:37] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global,, San Francisco, CA US, @mmdelong @TechSoup

[08:37] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Caryn Heilman and Nana Simopoulos, Topia Arts Center in the Berkshires of NW, MA in Adams,, @TopiaArtsCenter

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes we do the meeting sin text, helps us have a great transcript and allows for it to be accessible

[08:37] Adalace Jewell: @adalace for RoSa Library in Brussels – Belgiuim

[08:37] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC St. Louis MO @Coughran, @Innovaision

[08:37] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan tenby, Online Community and Social Media Director, TechSOup Global @suzboop @techsoup @npsl and new… @caravanstudios

[08:37] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society, Wisconsin USA

[08:37] Ozma Malibu: Sandra Andrews, Floaters Org technology outreach, Arizona, Mexico and On the Road, @ozma

[08:37] Atalanta Visage: Jennifer Siegel, National Service Inclusion Project,, Boston, MA

[08:37] Fido Fudo: This is my first visit. I’m Fido.

[08:37] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, MO, @brenabenoir

[08:37] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko, MA AFC | Counselor, Coach, & Tutor of Personal Finance in Private Practice | | @jerrybuchko

[08:37] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc Los Angeles, CA Human Rights and Health Care

[08:38] alebez: welcome, fido.

[08:38] Buffy Beale: welcome Fido 🙂

[08:38] Gentle Heron: Welcome to all the newcomers here today!

[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, community manager of NonProfit Commons –, Boston MA area, http://joycebettencourt, @RhiannonSL on twitter

[08:38] Fido Fudo: ~Smiles~

[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes and if you are new here, feel free to share how you found out about NonProfit Commons

[08:38] Fido Fudo: I received a group message through the Caledon sim.

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other introductions?

[08:39] PeopleWatching (mizaru33): Lizy, New Zealand, Redcross.

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: welcome Fido and Lizy

[08:39] Fido Fudo: ty

[08:39] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Carl Solutionary (, Humane Educator at Rockcliffe U with a Humane Education Free Shoppe at (Etopia Island (128,128,2)) on Etopia Island, the Sustainability Education Community,

[08:39] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH,,!/TAVAUS

[08:39] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, NYC

[08:40] jacmacaire Humby: Hi veryone

[08:40] Buffy Beale: yay Jac 🙂

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I see a few others just coming in, feel free to introduce yourselves before we move on

[08:41] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Hey Jac 🙂

[08:41] Glitteractica Cookie: Any more introductions?

[08:41] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE Council and Action Tank on Sustainable Human Development France and International @Humanbe

[08:41] jacmacaire Humby: Hi Buffy and Jerry.. 🙂

[08:41] Sarvana Haalan: Me…

[08:42] Sarvana Haalan: Sally Cherry, Baltimore, MD,, @CHAREproject




[08:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to TechSoup Announcements

[08:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you joined us late, please still introduce yourself!

[08:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Bulaklak

[08:42] bulaklak: Hi, folks! Happy Friday.

[08:43] Glitteractica Cookie: Hello Bulaklak

[08:43] Zinnia Zauber: Rah bulaklak!

[08:43] bulaklak: Today’s announcement is a refresher on the very cool Windows 8 Apps for Social Good Contest

[08:43] Sarvana Haalan: woot… It’s Purple Friday in Baltimore

[08:43] Glitteractica Cookie: Go Ravens

[08:43] bulaklak: Happy Purple Friday

[08:43] bulaklak: Microsoft has teamed up with NetSquared to support you in generating apps for nonprofits and activists on the Windows Marketplace. The Contest is about YOUR great ideas and projects, and we’re here with tools, resources, and incentive prizes to get (and keep) you going.

[08:44] bulaklak: The prizes total $40k, with two $15kk top prizes and one $10k audience chaoice prize

[08:44] Glitteractica Cookie: APss can be mobile apps phone apps, web apps of games .. as long as they are social benefit focused

[08:44] Glitteractica Cookie: Apps, I meant

[08:45] Sarvana Haalan: I shared the info at a local TechBreakfast on Wednesday

[08:45] bulaklak: Yay, Sarvana!

[08:45] bulaklak: Thank you

[08:45] bulaklak: Lots more info here at this link:

[08:45] CarynTopia Silvercloud: oh, so if it is an iphone app, it is okay?

[08:45] bulaklak: Please do share the info far and wide

[08:45] Glitteractica Cookie: Please share with any app developers you know, esp windows developers, of course

[08:45] CarynTopia Silvercloud: it doesn’t have to be on the windows platform?

[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[08:45] Sarvana Haalan: even the social enterprise were interested

[08:45] bulaklak: Caryn, the apps are for Windows 8

[08:46] bulaklak: That’s great news, Sarvana

[08:46] Glitteractica Cookie: no, it can’t be an ihone app. must be a windows app

[08:46] Glitteractica Cookie: it’s a contest put on by us, but sponsored by microsoft

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: there are Windows phones, in fact Nokia paired up with Windows – great phones

[08:46] bulaklak: Another part of the project is a Hacker Helper wiki

[08:46] Glitteractica Cookie: the Lumia mini notepad/phone things are way cool

[08:47] bulaklak: Glitter has more info about that and how you can get involved with the Hacker Helper

[08:47] Ethelred Weatherwax: Does anybody use Windows *? Or a Windows phone?

[08:47] Sarvana Haalan: indeed

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: Yes, the hacker helper wiki is at

[08:47] Ethelred Weatherwax: *Windows 8

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: We need folks to edit this wiki. Tell us if we have your issue area covered properly.

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: Right now, we are focused on four issue areas

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I have windows 8 on a PC and at Singularity, Nokia was a sponsor and have a Lumia phone – though still using my older Nokia for now

[08:48] Sarvana Haalan: ok… I was a guest a couple days ago… Questions: I can just add portions of information for a specific topic?

[08:48] bulaklak: We know you are all smart (and opinionated!) so please look it over and chime in if you see ways it could be more helpful

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: The point of the hacker helper wiki is to provide data for hackers when they build their app

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: So, please take a look, edit it, add links, and let us know, esp if you are a hacker, if this is helpful to you

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: and if you are aligned with one of the four issue areas we are covering, and we dont have data that you think represents your focus, let us know that too

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: Email me: if you have ay questions

[08:49] Sarvana Haalan: TB was not listed with HIV and malaria? Could info about the co-infection be added to wiki section

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: And above all, please share and spread the word

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: Sarvana, please email me that feedback. That’s exactly what we are looking for

[08:50] bulaklak: Sarvana is on a roll!

[08:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes 🙂

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: and if you have specific links, let us know those too. or, just add them yourself

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: The wiki is open to edit

[08:50] bulaklak: Okay, that’s all I’ve got for today! Thanks, folks, and enjoy the meeting!

[08:51] Sarvana Haalan: ok… I will be signed on to help with the HIV section 🙂

[08:51] bulaklak: Great!

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks all, That’s all on my end too. Although if you want to RT to share the hackerhelper and the Win8 contest, look at the @netsquared twitter account or @caravanstudios twitter account

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: And more on Caravan Studios in the coming weeks

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: (Thanks Sarvana)

[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks bulaklak and Glitteractica!




[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Now on to Mentor’s Central!

[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Zinia Zauber to speak, let’s welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.!

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[08:52] Gentle Heron: Go Zinnia.

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: I have this saying that picked flowers never grow.

[08:52] Buffy Beale: yay Z

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: In my state, you can not pick trliliums.

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: So, today!

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: I want to talk about Picks!

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: A pick is a location in a resident’s profile that they have chosen to display. Some Residents have used picks to display things other than locations, such as favorite snapshots. Each Resident can create up to 10 picks in their Profile.

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: That is what the SL wiki says.

[08:54] Coughran Mayo: so it must be true

[08:54] Buffy Beale whispers: lol C

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: When we look at people’s profiles, you can see info about them and their Picks.

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Do you use Picks to market what you are doing in virtual worlds?

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Last week, iSkye talked about Events.

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: And, I like to post Picks about events I am doing.

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Sometimes I keep them there as a source of pride or to help market an org.

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: In the newer viewer, you set your Picks under the Me menu.

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: You will find that it opens a window and if you click on the + you can add a new Pick!

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: The Pick will be a Landmark and you can add info and a photo.

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Do you like to look at other folks’ Profiles to get ideas of how you can participate more in SL?

[08:58] Gentle Heron: That, and how THEY participate!

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: I learn a lot about someone based on their Profile.

[08:59] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: And, their Picks are very telling.

[08:59] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Found some marvelous places through picks

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[08:59] Oronoque Westland: some picks reveal too much

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: So true!

[08:59] Sarvana Haalan: lol

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Well, I want to encourage you all to add some Picks to your profile.

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: And, help everyone grow more and more here.

[09:00] Oronoque Westland: picks are great, just some need to be left for one’s personal aaccount, not the non-profit one

[09:00] Sarvana Haalan: I went over the limit I think…. LOL, LOL

[09:01] Gentle Heron: True, Oro, and remember that “personal messages” in your Picks also contain a LM, so people can TP right into your boudoir should you make one there with your newest flame.

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, it is hard to be limited. But that is a chance for creative curation.

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: hehe Gentle!

[09:01] Fido Fudo: Was that the voice of experience Gentle? ~Smiles~

[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Please do some Pickin‘!

[09:02] Gentle Heron: Not personal experience, Fido.

[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for letting me share!

[09:02] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Zinnia – Thanks for leading Mentors Central today!

[09:03] Oronoque Westland: great suggestion Zinnia, i.e. using picks for free promotions

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: You know me, I love to turn on the spotlight!!




[09:03] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to our main presentation

[09:03] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Last week, we began a discussion on relevant future trends in technology, which included augmented reality, big data, crowdfunding and gamification. We didn’t get all the way through the topics we hoped to touch on, so consider this the part 2 of that.

[09:03] Sarvana Haalan: helps to direct traffic… smiles

[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: We will be picking up, where we left off and will go over topics such as alternate input devices, 3D printing and the ‘internet of things’ and discuss how these innovations could be used for organizations.

[09:04] Buffy Beale: thanks Z

[09:04] Sarvana Haalan: wooot, the spotlight

[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Again, any one of these topics could be a full presentation – so this is really just a brief intro.

[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I invite you to all contribute with your comments as I go along and maybe this can also be a brainstorm session on thinking how these various technologies could be used to further your org’s mission or initiatives.

[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and feel free to take photos – since I will be doing a lot of typing

[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: So lets continue with…


Internet of Things

[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Internet of Things (sometimes shortened to IoT) is a wave in the connection of devices and objects that are able to connect to the internet, this is everything from a myriad of “smart” electronics, to new cars and even refrigerators.

[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Anything with the capability to receive a wifi signal can use the power of the internet to add functionality and access info.

[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: This means objects embedded with sensors gaining the ability to communicate and connect to the internet, or each other, through technologies such as wifi, bluetooth, mesh networks, etc.

[09:06] Rhiannon Chatnoir: In which you could possibly control everything in your homes and offices, from temperature, lighting and security to using devices to brew cups of coffee, program entertainment, check health records, and conduct a myriad of other tasks.

[09:06] Rhiannon Chatnoir: some ways for devices to connect:


 – home or mobile wifi connection

 – through bluetooth

 – through mesh networks


[09:06] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you are unfamiliar with what a mesh network is, a good example is the One Laptop per Child computers.

[09:06] Rhiannon Chatnoir: They could network with each other via self-creating a local mesh network and if at least one of the laptops within that cluster could connect to the internet, the others could utilize that connection through the chain of mesh connected laptops. 


This could allow a whole village of children to network with each other and collectively access the internet.

[09:07] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Some examples of network enabled devices being used for medical devices:

[09:07] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Sensors are being embedded in things like pacemakers to relay information back to health providers that can be analyzed.

[09:07] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Pill shaped micro cameras can be swallowed and send back thousands of images of the digestive track to help diagnose illness.

[09:07] Fido Fudo: wow

[09:08] CarmenLittleFawn: awesome

[09:09] Rhiannon Chatnoir: There is also the using data gathering devices and services to measure and record.

[09:09] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Devices like Nike+, FitBit, Zeo, and even digital pedometers all are examples of this. There are phone apps you can download that can keep track of your physical level of movement, your temperature and vitals and devices like this are beginning to be used to help monitor and diagnose in remote areas of the world, where doctors might not be as readily available, but nurses or locals with some medical training can use.


[09:09] Rhiannon Chatnoir: How this could relate to the virtual world:

[09:09] Sarvana Haalan: only your imagination limits you

[09:10] Rhiannon Chatnoir: You can also apply some of this here in a virtual world…

[09:10] Hour Destiny: Open source hardware like the Arduino and the LilyPad (for use in fabrics) is also growing.

[09:10] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you had an internet enabled light switch, you could log onto a web or virtual interface, and turn off your lights in your virtual room, which would turn off your lights at home.

[09:10] Sarvana Haalan: think it, then build it

[09:11] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes Hour, we touched upon crowdsourcing last week.. if you search and Indiegogo you will see a lot of projectings looking for funding that are networed devices like these

[09:12] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other thoughts before I move on to the next topic 🙂

[09:12] Oronoque Westland: my in-laws were trapped in their car when the computer failed and it controlled the locks…some of thi quite frankly is scary, even though I love my PC

[09:13] Hour Destiny: I wish there was more opportunites for beta testing these things.

[09:13] Rhiannon Chatnoir: definitely safety in both operation and data security are important

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lets move on…


Alternate Input Devices

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: We are all very familiar with the keyboard and mouse and how these are seen as standard devices to interface with your computer.

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: You use a mouse to move a cursor around a screen and a keyboard to type in input / data.

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: But there are more and more ways to interface with technology and the internet, including countless hardware and software interface technologies for those where a standard mouse or keyboard and mouse is not usable or the best option.

[09:15] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Enter the age of innovative game systems like the wii and xbox kinect that began using body movement as a mainstream way of interfacing with the games

[09:15] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and also the take off of tablet computers by Apple and others that allows position and movement of the device itself, as well as swiping and pinching gestures to control them.

[09:15] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Some types of interfaces:

– The mouse and keyboard

– audio input devices such as microphones and speech to text

– game controllers like Wii remotes, dance mats or other controllers

– Multi-touch screens (on devices such as iPads, mobile smartphones, etc)

Haptic devices

– Gestural interfaces, such as the Kinect

– Augmented reality devices 

– Brain-computer interface – meaning using your brain to control a device or computer. You think about moving something and it moves.


[09:15] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Uses for social or medical good:

[09:16] Hour Destiny: There’s a Windows version of Kinect.

[09:16] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Using alternate input devices for assistive technology – hardware or software solutions that allow users with mobility impairments to interact with a computer without using a standard mouse or keyboard.

[09:16] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Examples include speech recognition software, on-screen keyboards, word prediction software, scanners and switches, and other technologies that allow users to control computers with their head, eyes, breath, or feet.

[09:16] Fido Fudo: There is a lot of potential for that kind of technology to assist the disabled.

[09:17] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and I am sure Gentle or others from Virtual Ability can weigh in on that

[09:17] CarmenLittleFawn: mmhmm

[09:17] Rhiannon Chatnoir: There is also a wave of brain controlled input devices, headsets such as Emotiv and Neurosky that can be used to ‘think’ your input.

[09:18] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I’ve wondered how far along commercial eye tracking software for mouse/pointer control may be…

[09:18] Rhiannon Chatnoir: oops crashed but back

[09:19] Fido Fudo: wb

[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome Back!

[09:19] Hour Destiny: The Eye Mouse has been around for a long time.

[09:19] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Some really exciting potential in Brain Computer Interfaces (BCIs)

[09:19] Rhiannon Chatnoir luckily has notes

[09:20] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Hour, Any sense of how effective it is in daily use?

[09:20] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes making accessible technology for the disabled and others has fueled a lot of innovation in alternate input devices

[09:20] Gentle Heron: Jerry, we have folks in our community who control their computers and their SL entirely with eye gaze. So for them, highly effective!

[09:20] Hour Destiny: IIRC, it works okay enough but people might feel self-conscious.

[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: Cool!

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and an example of a brain implanted chips/interface a quadriplegic woman gained full control of a robotic arm:

[09:21] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): That’s awesome, I need to check that out.

[09:21] Jen (jenelle.levenque): People get used to most anything

[09:21] Tori Landau: Oh wow, that’s brilliant

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is where input devices meets medicine

[09:21] Ozma Malibu: wow!!

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: amazing stuff 🙂

[09:21] CarmenLittleFawn: yes


[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: How this could relate to the virtual world:

[09:21] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I know that eye/gaze tracking has had military application for some time. Just didn’t know how much of that has made it to the consumer market.

[09:22] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I think alternate devices like the Wii and Kinect really made the consumer market really rethink things

[09:22] Rhiannon Chatnoir: There have been explorations into using gestural devices like the Kinect to control your avatar and even hackable tools such as “Darwin remote” to use a Wii controller as a mouse to move your avatar around.

[09:23] Hour Destiny: One of the latest military jets allows pilots to change the info they get from their HUDs by looking in a different directions. It’s as though they can see through the side of the cockpit no matter the direction.

[09:23] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I have used this method at mixed reality events, you can get the ‘crowd’ to move the inworld avatar and camera view

[09:23] Rhiannon Chatnoir: A recent example is an art installation, sponsored by the Linden Endowment for the Arts, using a Kinect to control avatar movement:….

[09:23] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Rhiannon, That development in implantable devices is really exciting when you consider merging this with wireless control capability…

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, connecting that concept of networked devices with this

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and another interesting use in virtual worlds:

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The artist/activist/professor Joseph Delappe also used a treadmill as an input device to embody the avatar of Gandhi and perform over a period of time a 240 mile march about Second Life by when he walked on the treadmill, his avatar walked in the virtual world.

[09:25] Rhiannon Chatnoir: he physically walked Gandhi’s march in real life and in the virtual

[09:25] Fido Fudo: wow

[09:25] CarmenLittleFawn: OM goodness love that

[09:25] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so let’s move on to the last topic for today –

[09:26] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I know we’re bouncing back and forth a bit in our focus, but here’s an interesting bit on gesture based interfaces I happened across recently:


3D Printing

09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: this one is a bit more physical that the others 🙂

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Jerry

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 3D printing begins to democratize the process of manufacturing. 


Making fabrication available for the masses and bringing 3D data into the physical world.

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Though it has been around for awhile in super-expensive, large industrial usage, now it has reached a point where you can buy your own home 3D printer and begin to experiment.

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: We are starting to see 3D printing used for more medical applications as well, such as personalized prosthetics printed to exactly match and fit each person uniquely.

[09:27] Sarvana Haalan: much discussion and activity locally on 3-D printing

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I got to see one of the leg prosthetics designed for the wearer I met

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: There is also a lot of early implementation of using 3D printing for custom transplant structure and bone. Last year the first synthetic jaw that was custom designed and 3D printed was successfully surgically transplanted.

[09:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: We have also seen large scale usage of 3D printers to print architectural structures and houses:


[09:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: An example of this being used in the nonprofit sector:

[09:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: There are nonprofits such as the Center for Greater Good ( that are beginning to work on developing pop up innovation centers around the world, where even a rural population could learn to engineer and print any needed components.

[09:28] Glitteractica Cookie: fascinating

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Also, museums are using 3D printing to replicate artifacts, fossils and other models in their collections. (a great webinar video from NMC on using 3D printing in museums:

[09:29] Jen (jenelle.levenque): With internet you could email a water pump then they could print it out and put it to work

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Autodesk is working with the Leaky family to bring their paleontological models to real life and even help calculate the rest of the bone structure and print a full model

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes


[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: How can 3D printing relate to the virtual world:

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Through sites like Shapeways ( virtual world artists and 3D builders have begun to make their virtual creation become real by printing them out in 3D.

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: One example is the early SL’er Seifert Surface who is also a PhD mathematician and professor who often built in Second Life geometric figures hard to imagine or see in the physical world.

[09:30] Hour Destiny: “Create your world in 3D with free 123D apps”

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: When sites like Shapeways began to pop up, he crossed over to using it, by exporting some of his models, cleaning them up in 3D software like Blender, and uploading them. 


Now you can buy a physical replica of some of his mathematic visualizations:

[09:31] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so something as intangible as a mathematical model, visualized in a virtual world, made real

[09:31] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and an example of an Avatar made real:

[09:31] Ozma Malibu: 3D printing has been used in art for a long time. Dan Collins, a professor at ASU, was one of the first & there was an international conference on 3D printing and art here in AZ this year.

[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – it isn’t new per se.. just getting more affordable to use/explore the possibilities of

[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: You can also view an example of the machinima maker Draxtor Despres offering up a 3D model of one of his machinima characters Flufee:

[09:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): A key facet of all this is that once an object can be digitized/converted into data, you gain the ability to adjust its design. Then you can send it to 3D printing device or service to have it created.


[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and Some Resources

 – Wikipedia article on 3D Printing:

 – a collection of free apps from Autodesk that you can use to create 3D models and even convert photos into 3D models (123D Catch)

 – Shapeways – a print on demand 3D printing store, you can also create your own shop of uploaded 3D models and offer up items for sale in your own store that people can order and shape ways will print.

 – MakerBot – a consumer grade 3D printer: (they also have a great sister site where people upload their 3D models and projects:

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: all of these are food for thought too if you are thinking on that Windows8 app contest

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so to wrap up..


[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Some Overall Resources and Thoughts:


 – Nonprofit engagement and technology information / articles:

 – Upcoming trends can be found in NMC’s horizon report – which tracks, forecasts and publishes trends in the museum, education and technology space:

 – The think tank research company, McKinsey, that publishes reports on it’s future focused reports:


[09:34] Buffy Beale: I love New Media Consortium 🙂

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: these are all interesting sites to read up on thoughts of Future Trends

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and 


Don’t forget other current great technology trends like:

 – Cloud technology

 – mobile, smartphones and tablet platforms

 – crowd sourcing

 – geolocation

 – apps

 – social entrepreneurship

 – open education


[09:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Buffy, Yes. I only discovered them & their campus recently.

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: These are all also important and great places to start brainstorming and implementing technology!

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And, keep in mind, the internet and technology are ever evolving, but hopefully this has been an overview that will be useful so that when you are reading, thinking and working on implementing technology plans for your org or other projects, you have a baseline of knowledge.

[09:35] Ethelred Weatherwax: It would be nice to get discounts on 3D printers from Tech Soup. Any chance of that happening?

[09:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Really liked their Horizons report.

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I think Makerbot has an educational/nonprofit discount they offer on their site

[09:36] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Rhiannon, Awesome overview!

[09:36] Ethelred Weatherwax: I will check it out

[09:36] Glitteractica Cookie: Ethelred, I’m not sure but I can check with the bizdev folks

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks.. and feel free to investigate further and report back!

[09:36] Buffy Beale: Simply great info Rhi thanks!

[09:36] Hour Destiny: What about a Second Life version of a 3D printer so that people can see one and watch it “operate”?

[09:36] CarmenLittleFawn: yes 🙂 ty Rhiannon

[09:36] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, really outstanding.

[09:37] Glitteractica Cookie: I’m frankly not sure these are ready for primetime and that there’d be enough interest from the general nonprofit sector, but it doesn’t hurt to ask

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: last week’s transcript on augmented reality, big data, crowdfunding and gamifcation is up on

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yeah some of these are not at mass adoption yet for sure

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: though you are seeing things like the ‘internet of things’ pop up in a lot of apps that connect to network devices or control things, etc

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: but 3D printing still has a way to go before it is affordable to all like a home printer

[09:39] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Laser printers were very expensive when they first came out

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other last questions

[09:39] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Not to mention huge

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – til then you can use a site like shapeways. com to print on demand

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: like the cafepress of 3D

[09:40] Oronoque Westland: the nonprofit sector can take the lead in assuring the positive social impact of these technologies

[09:40] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Wireless home security & monitoring is becoming mainstream. Companies like Logitech are already selling kits.

[09:40] Ethelred Weatherwax: MakerBot is $2,800 — half the price of Apple’s first laser printer 20+ years ago

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: you can find the older Makerbots that were more like $500 used.. they upped their products recently and even opened up a phyiscal store in NY

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: their CEO Bre Pettis is even keynoting SxSW Interactive

[09:41] Hour Destiny: When they start showing up at nonprofit conferences, then they will have “arrived”.

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so there is a lot of eyes on where 3D printing is going

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes




[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Ok lets move on to Announcements

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: It’s time for Open Mic!

[09:41] Serene Jewell: There are many social issues that will spring up from these technologies – for example, if a device can monitor your health, your insurance company can raise your rates on a month by month basis if they think you are doing something unhealthy or spending time in an unhealthy neighborhood

[09:42] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I also think a 3D printer might be more relevant if your organization focuses on creation of helpful devices….

[09:42] Dancers Yao: Do you know if any of these new tech interface possibililites could be added to things like Shelter in a Box, for people who are homeless?

[09:42] Brena Benoir raises hand for Open Mic

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure Dancers, but a good question.. maybe we can look into that

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Ok Brena

[09:43] Gentle Heron also raises hand for Open Mic

[09:43] Dancers Yao: ok thanks

[09:43] Tori Landau raises hand too for Open Mic °͜°

[09:43] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): sorry, have to step away… afk

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Brena ready when you are

[09:44] Brena Benoir: I’m going to a cut and paste here to make it easier

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok

[09:44] Brena Benoir: ABOUT ARTC (Achieving Recovery Through Creativity) and ART HOUSE: 

ARTC is an amazing RL program run by SL residents which helps children with substance abuse issues use creativity to learn to express themselves in positive ways, building a foundation for a successful life free of drugs and alcohol. ARTC has used the virtual world to showcase the kids’ RL artwork, which deals with some very serious topics. You can read more about the program here:

[09:45] Buffy Beale: wow nice one Brena

[09:45] Brena Benoir: Winter Nightfire is curating a fundraiser for a PFH ARTC program and this pertains the reason and purpose

[09:45] Brena Benoir: ART HOUSE and its unique contents can all be yours if you are one of 3 winners of the drawing! To enter, click on the art supplies next to the stage and make a 250L donation to ARTC, for which you will receive a special gift of art or decor for your home or favorite place in SL. You may enter as many times as you wish — your chances get better with each donation and the gift will be different the first 5 times you enter!

[09:46] Brena Benoir: Have a stroll through the house and reference the list of contributors and LMs you get when you arrive to find out where to get more art and housewares by these incredibly talented top creators of Second Life: Gwen Carrilon, Trill Zapatero, Luciella Lutrova, Fuschia Nightfire, Nina Camplin, Aruba De Cuir, Nathan Babcock, Samara Furse-Barzane, Rik Zwiers, Alba2 Rossini, Pitsch Parx (For UrbanizeD), Zinnia Zauber, Cat Boccacio, CoughranMayo, Milly Sharple, Dixmix Source, Eynlight, Winter Nightfire.

[09:46] Gentle Heron: ohhhhh some really good artists there

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[09:46] Brena Benoir: The Lindens raised through this event will be turned into dollars and used to buy art supplies for the kids of ARTC, whose activities are also funded by Preferred Family Healthcare, a nonprofit organization in Missouri, USA. The premise is that anyone may enter to win the house and decor for a 250L donation to the program. When the donation is made, the entrant receives a gift of equivalent value, and his or her name will be put on a RL list kept by me and administrators of ARTC. From this list, the administrators (hopefully with help from some of the ARTC kids) will draw 3 names of entrants who win the whole home and its contents. The drawing will be videotaped and Youtubed so that everyone can see it is fair, legitimate, and fun.


Please send your friends to see this awesome collaboration on behalf of the kids of ARTC! There are lots of ways to take part in this month-long event: Gift tickets can be purchased (you can enter your friends too!), and you can come to the house and donate amounts other than 250, as well. Every Linden helps…Thank you for vising ART HOUSE, and Enjoy!



Winter Nightfire and ARTC

[09:46] Brena Benoir: sorry that last paragraph got cut off

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Brena 🙂

[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: nice

[09:47] Serene Jewell: cool

[09:47] Brena Benoir: Opening mixer will be tomorrow from 12-3pm SLT if you would like to join us

[09:47] CarmenLittleFawn: nods , yes

[09:47] Chayenn: great brenna

[09:47] Brena Benoir: IM for an LM if interested please

[09:47] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): I have an announcement…

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Gentle your next

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Please join us! It is a wonderful cause with wonderful works!

[09:47] Gentle Heron: iSkye, who presented here last week, will expand her topic to Event Planning in a Nutshell.

[09:48] Gentle Heron: She presents TODAY at noon SLT

Virtual Ability (44,138,23)

Please join us to learn more details of creating a great party, class, or conference.

[09:48] Gentle Heron: (done)

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent, Gentle!

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Gentle

[09:48] CarmenLittleFawn: 🙂

[09:48] Buffy Beale: yay iSkye!

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Tori

[09:49] Tori Landau: ok, ty Rhiannon….. OPen University’s Monday Meet…

[09:49] Tori Landau: *Mon 14th – Monday Meet at 1pm slt / 9pm GMT*

John Lester (SL: Pathfinder Lester (formerly Linden)) giving the talk, “To invent the future we must build dreams”.

[09:49] Tori Landau: This Meet will be in the communal room at Deep Think West.

SLurl: Deep Think West (73,45,24)

[09:49] Tori Landau: This is an updated version of the talk Pathfinder gave here a few months ago

[09:50] Tori Landau: and done °͜°

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great and thanks Tori

[09:50] Sarvana Haalan: awesome!!

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Carl your next…

[09:50] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): 9am SLT Tomorrow (Saturday) is the Netera Landar Chat on 3rd Rock Grid – I’m one of the Guests – I’ll address sustainable food choices, GMOs, plastics,…

Netera Landar Chat is a popular virtual talk show, I’m featured as a guest tomorrow 9am SLT on Studio Location: Reuben (232,218,23) (On 3rd Rock Grid!) My Humane Education essays are featured in our new virtual world cookbook

[09:50] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): okay done

[09:50] Buffy Beale: nice one Carl!

[09:50] Gentle Heron: Carl sure has been busy!

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Great, Carl!

[09:51] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Carl

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements

[09:51] Tori Landau: Great Carl!

[09:51] Chayenn: yes i would like to add

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: will there be a mentor’s meeting after this Zinnia

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and sure Chayenn

[09:52] Chayenn: Wonder what trends will impact #nonprofits in 2013? @Huffingtonpost provides their insight:

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors at 10!

[09:52] Chayenn: info for all non profits

[09:52] CarmenLittleFawn: thanks chayenn

[09:52] Buffy Beale: thanks Chay

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Cool Chayenn!

[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Chayenn.. good to add to today’s discussion 🙂

[09:53] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks everyone

[09:53] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so fi there is nothing else, we are done for this week

[09:53] Chayenn: GuideStar USA ‏@GuideStarUSA

Fiscal-Cliff tax deal expected to boost charitable giving via @Philanthropy:

[09:53] Glitteractica Cookie: goodbye! see u all next week.


And again, Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:



Thanks everyone and see you next week!

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of the December 7th NPC Meeting Featuring: Ginny Mies of TechSoup

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team.


[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

 – 8:30 am Introductions

 – 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements

 – 8:50 am Featured Presenter: Ginny Mies: “Technology’s Impact on Disaster Relief”

 – 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements


[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting.

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


 – Nonprofit Commons Blog:

 – Wiki:

 – Twitter:

 – Facebook:

 – Google Group:

 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:








[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Morning everyone, let’s start off with Introductions!

[08:35] Sarvana Jonstone: Sally S. Cherry aka SarVana Haalan, Baltimore, MD, (SarVana Haalan’s backup :-))

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:36] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL…

Chief Bottle-Washer, Social Research Foundation, New York, NY

[08:36] Par (parhelion.palou): Peter Tolliver, north of Baltimore, MD, generic volunteer, no org, no twitter, no website

[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett Elder Voices Los Angeles, Ca Health Care and Human Rights

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Boston MA area, Online Community Manager of NonProfit Commons in Second Life,,

[08:36] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:36] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore MD,,, @PY1US

[08:36] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:36] Orange Planer: Orange Planer, network administrator for Homeowner Options for Massachusetts Elders, at a website I’m embarrassed to post because it’s so out of date:

[08:37] Sarvana Jonstone: sorry for being a bit forward… Sally S. Cherry aka SarVana Haalan, Baltimore, MD, (SarVana Haalan’s backup :-))

[08:37] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global,, @mmdelong @TechSoup, San Francisco, CA, USA

[08:37] Orange Planer: And I’m sorta becoming it’s CIO as well. :-O

[08:37] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:37] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, MO, @brenabenoir

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you just joined us – please introduce yourself 🙂

[08:37] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup Global, SF, CA, @TechSoup. @alebez

[08:38] Ozma Malibu: Sandra Sutton Andrews, Floaters Org (tech outreach to have-nots), locations in Arizona, Mexico & On the Road, @ozma

[08:38] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Ginny Mies, Content Curator at TechSoup 🙂




[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to TechSoup Announcements!

[08:39] bulaklak: Hi, all! Happy Friday.

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome Penelope!

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: we won’t be having a Mentor’s Central today – so you have a bit of extra time 🙂

[08:39] Buffy Beale: yay for Friday and welcome Penelope too 🙂

[08:40] Orange Planer: Oooh, more food shows up!

[08:40] bulaklak: Thanks, Rihannon!

[08:40] bulaklak: So first we have a webinar coming up on Tuesday 12/11 where tech trainers will share their experiences.

[08:40] bulaklak: Here’s the copy:

[08:40] bulaklak: Our tech-training pros will highlight resources that allow libraries and nonprofits to share expertise with one another on how to train patrons on technology. From ABLE to WebJunction, hosts Brenda Hough and Stephanie Gerding will take you on a tour of a web places and virtual spaces that exist to make training better. Guests will be invited to share their favorite resources, too.

[08:40] Tori Landau: Hurriedly flaps up out of Orange’s way

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and.. a few more are coming in – so feel free to slip your introductions in during 🙂

[08:41] bulaklak: Aaand, here is the link where you can register:

[08:41] Orange Planer: What if your CEO is a luddite who considers email to be an interruption and would rather stand in front of a fax machine for 2 hours?

[08:41] bulaklak: As always, this webinar is free. It will be recorded and available as an archive. AND if you would like it to be live captioned, just let us know 72 hours in advance and we are more than happy to do that for you.

[08:41] bulaklak: I think that is a whole other webinar, Orange

[08:41] bulaklak: But a good one!

[08:42] Orange Planer: I’m looking forward to that announcement.

[08:42] bulaklak: I also want to share the results of the latest ReStart Romania challenge. There are some really terrific projects coming out of the challenge to use tech to make Romanian government more transparent and accountable.

[08:44] bulaklak: For example, in Romania, the fact that half of Romanian buildings are not accessible has contributed to a 97% unemployment rate for the disabled

[08:44] bulaklak: One of the winning projects is an interactive map to highlight all the accessible buildings and push for more

[08:44] Orange Planer: Who is running that initiative?

[08:44] bulaklak: Here is the link with all the winners and a cool inititiative where Romanian activists share the things that piss them off

[08:44] bulaklak:

[08:45] bulaklak: This was a joint effort of TechSoup Romania and a number of partners including Microsoft and the US ambassador to Romania

[08:45] bulaklak: Lots more at the link!

[08:45] bulaklak:

[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[08:45] Orange Planer: OK, but not the Romanian government itself.

[08:45] Orange Planer: :-/

[08:46] Orange Planer: Gotta start somewhere.

[08:46] bulaklak: We’re excited to have Ginny Mies with us today. So in light of that — one of the awesome things she does as a content curator at TechSoup is help put together our weekly newsletter By the Cup

[08:47] bulaklak: It’s a great way to keep up with everything we are doing, which is always a lot!

[08:47] bulaklak: You can sign up for that newsletter if you already haven’t here:

[08:47] bulaklak: And while you are at it, sign up for our New Product Alert, too!

[08:47] bulaklak: Since I have a few extra minutes (thanks, Rhiannion) I will just mention a few last things!

[08:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[08:48] bulaklak: As you are all super smart and helpful people, I want to remind you that you can help our community out any time by sharing your smarts in our TEchSoup discussion forums

[08:48] bulaklak: And one of the ways we make that easy is by posting open questions on Twitter with the hashtag #TechSoupDYB

[08:49] Orange Planer: Ooh, more phishing vic… I mean people to help!

[08:49] bulaklak: Or, if you go to our forums, you can search by that tag and find open questions

[08:49] bulaklak: Lol Orange.

[08:49] Zazoom Zimminy whispers Kyle Reis, Grants Managers Network, NYC

[08:49] Orange Planer: Never whisper, people might not hear you.

[08:49] bulaklak: Answering questions on our forums *is* actually a great way for consultants to establish visibility and credibility

[08:49] bulaklak: (As long as you don’t self-promote too much!)

[08:50] bulaklak: And lastly!

[08:50] bulaklak: Just another quick reminder about the ongoing Microsoft Windows 8 Apps for Social Good contest

[08:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod – would love to see some synergy between the forums and here at NPC

[08:50] bulaklak: Remember there are two $15k cash prizes at stake, and one $10k prize, as well!

[08:51] Orange Planer: That’s USD, not lindens.

[08:51] bulaklak: Yes, thanks, Orange.

[08:51] bulaklak: Here is the link again with all the juicy details

[08:51] bulaklak:

[08:51] bulaklak: Thanks, all!

[08:51] bulaklak: Have a great meeting and a great weekend!

[08:51] Sarvana Jonstone: Do consultants have to be members of TechSoup to answer questions?

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: Great update, Bulaklak!

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you bulaklak!

[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: on the forums Sarvana? no

[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: or comments via the twitter channel.. no.. so feel free to jump in

[08:52] Sarvana Jonstone: Great info… Bulaklak, thanks

[08:52] bulaklak: Oh, sorry Sarvana

[08:53] Rhiannon Chatnoir: though you need a forum account.. so sign up then contribute!

[08:53] bulaklak: Yes, to post in the forums you do have to register to be a forum member . . . but you don’t need to register your org

[08:53] bulaklak: You don’t need to be a 501c3

[08:53] bulaklak: It only takes a few minutes to fill out a profile

[08:53] bulaklak: and get started!

[08:53] bulaklak: 🙂

[08:53] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and a cross conversation would be wonderful – to see the expertise here help out there

[08:54] Sarvana Jonstone: excellent

[08:54] bulaklak: In fact, here is a handy link with more info on how to register and get started:

[08:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks bulaklak!

[08:54] Orange Planer: I have only one question.

[08:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: on the forums?

[08:55] Orange Planer: Nah, never mind, I’ll just cause trouble asking it.

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok




[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Time for today’s main speaker!

[08:55] bulaklak: Yay, Ginny!

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s welcome Ginny Mies, who will speaking to us about how mobile technology, web apps, and mapping software have become enormously helpful in sharing news and spreading information about disaster relief efforts such as after Hurricane Sandy.

[08:55] alebez: woooooot, ginny!

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you want to come up here Ginny and grab a seat

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks!

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a bit about Ginny:

[08:56] Gentle Heron: Welcome Ginny.

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Bio: Ginny Mies is a content curator at TechSoup. Before coming to TechSoup, Ginny was a Senior Editor for PCWorld. She covered mobile phones as well as consumer advocacy issues for both the website and print magazine. She’s currently in home stretch of the Master of Library and Information Science program at San Jose State University.

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ready whenever you are to start, your slides are behind you and let me know if you need them advanced

[08:56] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Thanks Rhiannon!

[08:56] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Hi everyone, I’m Ginny and I want to thank you all for having me here. I’m new to Second Life so bear with me 🙂

[08:56] Orange Planer: Congrats, Ginny. Here’s hoping you pass the orals for your masters.

[08:56] Buffy Beale: Yay Ginny!

[08:57] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Mobile technology, web apps, and mapping software have become enormously helpful in the sharing news and spreading information about relief efforts after Hurricane Sandy and other disasters or emergency situations.

[08:57] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): For a article (, I researched the ways in which people used technology and social media to share important information and later connect with their community to help with rescue and clean-up after the hurricane.

[08:57] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I wanted to share some of the interesting info I found with you all.

[08:58] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Thanks 🙂

[08:58] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Texting campaigns have played a huge part in disaster relief for a few years now.

[08:59] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Residents affected by Sandy looking for shelters could text SHELTER and their zip code to 43352 (4FEMA).

[08:59] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): A few disaster relief agencies and organizations also have apps for the iPhone, Android phones, Windows phones, etc.

[08:59] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The Red Cross hurricane app uses GPS to find the nearest shelters.

[09:00] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): FEMA’s apps for Apple, Android, and Blackberry provided weather information as well as tips for what to do during and after a hurricane.

[09:00] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): TechSoup partner Esri had an interactive map (which is no longer up) that showed the flooding and weather information post-Sandy.

[09:01] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): You could access up-to-date information on flood warnings, storm surge, shelters, and more.

[09:01] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The Google Crisis Response project ( has a slew of resources for both responders and those affected by disasters.

[09:02] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Google’s Hurricane Sandy map showed areas with power outages.

[09:02] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Communities could also create their own custom Google Maps for identifying where help is needed.

[09:03] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Tweak the Tweet ( is a layered map that shows the locations of disaster-related Twitter hashtags.

[09:03] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): This is one of the most interesting uses of mapping technology I found.

[09:03] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): For example, you can see where people have tweeted about flooding by clicking blue dots, which correspond to #flood, #water, and #surge hashtags.

[09:04] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): You can also find out where volunteers are needed via the #need hashtag layer.

[09:05] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I think I accidentally skipped my second slide so I’m going to go back 🙂

[09:05] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Here we go

[09:05] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Twitter has proven itself time and again as an excellent method of communication in times of crisis.

[09:06] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): During the hurricane, communities kept each other updated by using hashtags like #Sandy on what was happening in their neighborhood.

[09:06] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod

[09:06] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Community members are now using hashtags like #SandyVolunteer to find out where they can help out.

[09:06] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Government agencies, such as FEMA, also used Twitter to get the word out about the storm starting a week before it hit.

[09:06] Sarvana Jonstone: aewsome

[09:07] Sarvana Jonstone: *awesome!

[09:07] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): But I think the rest of the world really saw Sandy’s impact through Instagram.

[09:07] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): According to mobile app’s founder Kevin Systrom, more than 344,000 images have been posted with the hashtag #sandy.

[09:08] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Instacane ( is an independent site that is tracking all photos with Sandy-related hashtags.

[09:08] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I’m going to now skip over to my last slide

[09:09] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): is a simple tool that helps affected communities create websites to organize disaster recovery efforts.

[09:09] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The Lower East Side Recovers ( is an example of this tool in action.

[09:10] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The site is a resource for both those affected as well as volunteers who want to find ways to help out.

[09:10] Glitteractica Cookie: does this presentation live ont he techsoup slideshare page

[09:10] Rhiannon Chatnoir: not sure – but can be put up there if not

[09:10] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Not yet 🙂

[09:11] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The nice thing about Recovers is that you can build web pages fairly quickly–which is essential during a time of emergency.

[09:11] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Occupy Sandy ( is an offshoot of Occupy New York.

[09:11] Orange Planer: What?

[09:11] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): err Occupy Wall Street

[09:12] Orange Planer: Again

[09:12] Orange Planer: Wait?

[09:12] Orange Planer: “Occupy” a hurricane?

[09:12] Orange Planer: What does THAT mean?

[09:12] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The group coordinates recovery to neighborhoods affected by Hurricane Sandy via special neighborhood hubs where community members can exchange information and volunteer goods or services.

[09:13] Rhiannon Chatnoir: the social movement started at Occupy has been often directing itself at relevant community inatiatives.. in NY they have been helping with post hurricane Sandy

[09:13] Orange Planer: Relevant to finance?

[09:13] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): One of my friends, who has been very active with recovery relief in the Rockaways, has been making soup and sandwiches in her kitchen in Brooklyn and then driving to the Rockaways and delivering the food door-to-door to those in need.

[09:13] Andy Evans: I read a lot of the Occupy Wall Street people were helping out in Staten Island

[09:14] Orange Planer: That sounds to me more like an organization that doesn’t have a focus.

[09:14] CarynTopia Silvercloud: The occupy sandy site was the one I found to be most relevant to informing me about relief efforts immediately after the hurricane

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: no they just happen to have started in the Wall St area, but the social/activism structure has proven useful for organizing other efforts too

[09:14] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): The idea is that the government agencies aren’t doing enough for relief efforts so Occupy Sandy/Wall Street are stepping in to take action

[09:14] Ozma Malibu: I liked how easy it was to donate funds to grassroots efforts. Also loved the “wedding registries” (Sandy and Sandy) with lists of needed items you could buy.

[09:14] Orange Planer: How transparent are the grassroots organizations?

[09:15] Zazoom Zimminy raises hand

[09:15] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): TechSoup has a variety of technology-related disaster planning and recovery resources for nonprofits and libraries.

[09:16] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Check out our Disaster Planning Resources Page (, which includes a link to our Disaster Planning Guide

[09:16] Rhiannon Chatnoir: did you have a question for Ginny.. Zazoom?

[09:16] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I’m currently working on an updates to it that include information on creating a backup strategy for your mobile devices.

[09:16] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Sure, does anybody have any questions or comments?

[09:17] Buffy Beale: fantasic information thanks!

[09:17] Zazoom Zimminy: yes, thanks. I was wondering how you go about curating the information available as the problem with disasters seems to be too much noise and not enough signal

[09:17] Zazoom Zimminy: Did you have a process for verifying the quality of resources around things like volunteering, the veracity of information coming in, etc.

[09:17] Gentle Heron agrees with Zazoom. The thing I think about social media is, it divides the information by multiplying the information providers. There’s too much out there with too little specifics, and nothing coordinated

[09:17] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Great question!

[09:18] Zazoom Zimminy: if anything, this is where curation is so critical

[09:18] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I have a few friends who are active in disaster relief/recovery efforts in the Jersey Shore and Rockaways

[09:18] Zazoom Zimminy: and it needs to be timely

[09:18] Ozma Malibu: Grassroots groups & transparency: lots of images posted of the work they were doing and we could follow on FB etc.Also, donate where you trust. I donated to the U-Hungry Cafe people cos they had a good track record e.g. with Katrina.

[09:18] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): So I asked them what resources they found useful, timely, etc.

[09:18] Orange Planer: Are these people audited?

[09:18] Rhiannon Chatnoir: what was their response back

[09:19] Zazoom Zimminy: so really the best way, finding local people you trust, trying to have your ear as close to the ground as possible

[09:19] Zazoom Zimminy: tapping networks

[09:19] Orange Planer: I’d rather buy the goods myself and drive them over.

[09:19] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): They said that following Twitter hashtags and other location-based sources were the best way to find out where help was needed

[09:19] Rhiannon Chatnoir: there is something to be said of trust networks…via either the info coming from an org or a person you know / trust

[09:19] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): InterOccupy and the sites were also fast and easy way to obtain information

[09:19] Ozma Malibu: yes, Zazoon, find locals you trust, tap networks. Or yes, Orange, drive out yourself.

[09:20] Orange Planer: Until you’ve got one person who runs a group by the power of personality.

[09:20] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): BUT, I’m not sure if you guys read about this, there was a guy on Twitter spreading false information. Saying that hospitals were on fire and certain streets were flooded

[09:20] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): So you can’t always trust what you read

[09:20] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): on social media

[09:20] Gentle Heron: I think that was Zazoom’s point.

[09:20] Ethelred Weatherwax: David Dexter, Manchester UK, arriving late and leacing early

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: One of the most interesting/amazing relief efforts was one that began as initially some SMS phone postings on Facebook, that bled to related interest/disability groups of a couple that due to the ‘no power’ were in essence stranded without resources and in need of supplies, aid and a way to use a ventilator

[09:21] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Right, so I think and sites stepping in to organize and verify some of this information was important

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: that evolved quickly in to someone creating a google doc that was collaborated on and shared

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir:…

[09:21] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): That’s really interesting, Rhiannon

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: that is the doc if you want to see how that worked

[09:22] Ozma Malibu: wow

[09:22] Orange Planer: Yes, I saw that site.

[09:22] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a great example of your network rising up to aid you.. or friends of friends of friends… etc

[09:22] Gentle Heron: That person in the news was a member of Virtual Ability. We’ve used Google docs before to help them out. In fact, that’s how Nick got to New York City.

[09:22] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes and one of the co-organizers of the disability group GimpGirls

[09:22] Ozma Malibu: wow, again

[09:23] Rhiannon Chatnoir: all started from an SMS post to facebook to friends

[09:23] Gentle Heron: Yes Aleja is the head of GimpGirls in SL.

[09:23] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): A few of you messaged me to let me know that my link to TechSoup’s Disaster Planning site wasn’t working. Here’s the fixed link

[09:23] Zazoom Zimminy: awesome, thanks

[09:23] Gentle Heron: But this is an example of where even the government info sites were not helpful. They gave out information that was inaccurate as far as help for people with disabilities was concerned.

[09:24] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I’m curious — do you organizations have disaster plans in place?

[09:24] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): *your

[09:24] Orange Planer: Or just use this:

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: good question

[09:25] Gentle Heron: The public shelters in Philadelphia were supposed to “take anyone” but they were not capable of taking in people with severe disabilities (one was told “We’ll take your parrot, but not you. You use a ventilator.”) and there was NO source of information for these people who needed more help than most of us.

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – the elderly were also severely impacted.. once power went out and they were essence trapped in high rises unable to walk down stairs

[09:26] Gentle Heron: I think that’s a good question Ginny. Since my organization is mainly SL based, with no RL activities, our disaster planning may be a bit different than those orgs who are location based. But yes, we have some planning in place.

[09:26] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Yes, a few of my friends’ grandparents live in the Rockaways and had trouble evacuating and finding shelter.

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: this can fuel a lot of discussion on how to make cities smarter and better prepared to handle disasters…hopefully

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: on that note Gentle, just loss of power is huge for any org that relies heavily on online technology

[09:27] Gentle Heron: Indeed it is, Rhiannon.

[09:27] Gentle Heron: as is back up for record keeping

[09:28] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): DeYes, backing up is crucial — a disaster can be spilling water all over your laptop 🙂

[09:28] CarynTopia Silvercloud: In my neighborhood in the West Village there was already an org that had been organizing around getting a hospitIn my neighborhood in the West Village, NY I was already in contact with an org that had been organizing around getting a closed hospital opened and that org was able to send out email to its members to organize help for seniors trapped in high rises

[09:29] Zazoom Zimminy: And don’t park your trains in Hoboken next time, NJ Transit

[09:29] CarynTopia Silvercloud: I could trust the info becuase I knew the people and the org

[09:29] Gentle Heron: HAHAHA

[09:29] CarynTopia Silvercloud: then I was able to send that info to my community in the Berkshires so they had a trusted source

[09:29] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Wow, that’s really interesting, Caryn.

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: at least not all of them Zazoom 😉

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: How many of you here were either effected directly or indirectly from Sandy?

[09:31] Gentle Heron: Some of our community members were, but not the organization’s offices.

[09:31] Zazoom Zimminy: me raises hand

[09:31] Andy Evans: Indirectly – I live in NYC…. wife had to get a rise to her job at the NYC DEPT OF Environmental Protection

[09:31] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I know Caryn, Zazoom.. some of us were more on one end of the storm or another or effected by colleagues we work/interact

[09:32] Zazoom Zimminy: more than half of our town was without power more than a week after the storm, though we only lost for two days

[09:32] Dancers Yao: collleagues affected

[09:32] Zazoom Zimminy: Had lots of neighbors over warming up and watching X Factor

[09:32] Zazoom Zimminy smiles

[09:32] Zazoom Zimminy: go Carly!

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I had a good friend in Hoboken who they shared power charging in their hallways while they had it and shared info via cell on where to find resources/food

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: SMS usage becomes huge in an effected area would think

[09:36] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): SMS is a great way to stay in touch, but you have to watch the battery life on your phone 🙂

[09:36] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): in case there’s no power

[09:36] Andy Evans: Is it true SMS may work when the phone lines are clogged?

[09:36] Orange Planer: Yes, Andy.

[09:36] Buffy Beale: Sorry everyone have to leave early, great presentation thanks Ginny!

[09:36] Orange Planer: SMS depends more on IP through the phone network than on internet-IP.

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Take care, Buffy!

[09:37] Sarvana Jonstone: Local teams from “Somebody Cares Baltimore” and my church, Mountain Christian Church are going back and forth helping in the recovery. Twitter and text messages have been our communication for updates

[09:37] Buffy Beale: waves byee

[09:37] Sarvana Jonstone: Take care Buffy

[09:37] Orange Planer: Multiplexing that way is more robust.

[09:37] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Sarvana, do you use Twitter lists/groups to share info with one another?

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: you can use tools that help message many at once, like in those efforts Sarvana

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and thanks Buffy for coming

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and yes, twitter lists!

[09:38] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): is awesome

[09:38] Sarvana Jonstone: we are using Twitter which bounces to Facebook… especially if request for expertise or items are submitted

[09:38] Andy Evans: What is GroupMe?

[09:38] Glitteractica Cookie: what is (jinx)

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: it is a way to set up SMS groups Andy

[09:39] Andy Evans: Wow

[09:39] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): It is an app that lets you text a designated group of people

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so you could add people’s cell numbers and then have your own SMS chat between all members of that group

[09:39] Sarvana Jonstone: will check it out… the teams are scattered between NYC and NJ…

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: there is an app you can use. but you can also use the SMS number for your group and just send a text message to that as well

[09:40] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): I relied on it when I was a journalist to coordinate coverage of an event. I’d imagine it would be really helpful for coordinating volunteer efforts

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you werent able or didnt have a smart phone

[09:40] Sarvana Jonstone: sounds like a much needed tool… Thank you… will share with the team leaders

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great for use during events/conventions as well.. to plan things collectively and share info quickly to all

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir:

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other questions for Ginny

[09:41] Sarvana Jonstone: so much work to be done… TV does not tell the story

[09:42] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Agreed!

[09:42] Sarvana Jonstone: Thank you Ginny… Awesome presentation!!!

[09:42] Andy Evans: Fantastic presentation

[09:42] Gentle Heron: Thanks Ginny. Very interesting presentation.

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: thank you Ginny!

[09:42] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Thank you all for having me!

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, mainstream media is often hardpressed to keep up with the speed of infosharing online

[09:42] Zazoom Zimminy: thanks!

[09:42] Tori Landau: Many thanks Ginny!

[09:42] Dancers Yao: thanks great info

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes great to have you here – thanks Ginny!

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Ginny also writes a lot of posts to the forum.. so another good reason to visit there

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I have a link to her forum profile on the NPC blog entry about today’s presentation

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and you can find her other content there

[09:44] bulaklak: Thanks, Ginny!

[09:44] bulaklak: Great presentation.




[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to Open Mic!

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Does anyone have any announcements today?

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if not we can end earlier… but if you have any events/info to share

[09:45] Orange Planer: Nothing here.

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[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: CommonGround is next Thursday

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Our color theme is GOLD!

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes!

[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: excellent presentation

[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: i hope we recap it and point to it on the site

[09:46] Tori Landau: What is commonground please Zinnia?

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and will add her slides

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: CommonGround is a fun and informative networking party here at the Nonprofit Commons to promote about what nonprofits, educators, humanitarians, scientists, and artists accomplish in Second Life.

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: It is from 5 to 7 PM SLT on Aloft.

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: usually there is a theme.. this time being Gold

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: We aim for the Third Thursday of each month.

[09:47] Tori Landau: oh shame, sounds great, u fortunately I’ll be in bed, have a great time everyone °͜°

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: New color themes each month, this time GOLD.

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great if you want to informally meet up with other NPC community members, network and chat

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: An effective way to connect with a new audience and promote your organization’s mission is to attend our two networking parties at the Nonprofit Commons – Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza and CommonGround.

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: will there be a Mentor’s meeting after this Zinnia?

[09:48] Sarvana Jonstone: According to my twin, SarVana Haalan… “CommonGround rocks!!” LOL, LOL

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: A very brief Mentor Meeting.

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ha

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: anyone else with announcements?

[09:49] Tori Landau: is wharf ratz also 5 to 7pm slt?

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: So, let’s start that in 5 minutes.

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza is 7 to 9 PM SLT.

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Every Tuesday!

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets close this week’s meeting – please feel free to stick around for the Mentor’s meeting afterwards

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

[09:50] Orange Planer: So, some weeks there’s wharf ratz (2 hours), CommonGround (2 hours), and the NPC meeting (2 hours).

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Nonprofit Commons Blog:


 – Wiki:

 – Twitter:

 – Facebook:

 – Google Group:

 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:





Thanks everyone and see you next week!


[09:50] Sarvana Jonstone: Excellent meeting!!!

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – and again much thanks to Ginny and a great discussion too 🙂

[09:51] Penelope Lowtide (ginny.lowtide): Thanks everyone! I must go now and put together next week’s By The Cup newsletter. Take care all!

[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: take care and bye Ginny

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Opal Lei: “Getting the Code You Need” for the November 9th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, November 9th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Opal Lei, who will discuss the why, what, who and how of obtaining LSL scripts for your organization’s virtual presence. 


Maybe you settled for freebie scripts that do not do enough or off-the-shelf scripts that include code that you do not need and just cause lag. Maybe you have a great project idea, but you are intimidated by scripters who speak techno-babble. Maybe you can’t decide whether to hire someone or to learn LSL yourself. Maybe you’ve tried hiring someone and they ended up creating something utterly different from your vision.


Opal will squeeze as many tips as she can to help:

  • Decide when to modify a script and when to leave it alone
  • Decide when to hire, when to purchase off the shelf, and when to do it yourself
  • Choose the right scripter if you decide to hire
  • Effectively share your vision with a hired scripter to get the results you want


Opal has created a survey to help tailor this presentation for those attending, please fill out before November 8:


Bio: Opal Lei (aka Lea Tesoro in real life) now calls herself an author after publishing her book “Love, Like Dim Sum” ( But, once upon a time, she called herself a techie. Prior to discovering SL, she worked in the software industry for 14 years, including a stint at Microsoft, where she documented APIs and coded basic snippets for the .NET SDK. Her first LSL scripting project was a docent game for the International Spaceflight Museum. As her alt Treasure Box, she had also choreographed and coded the burning of the Burning Life/Burn2 temple for four years.


Join us in Second Life!


Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, November 9th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater



  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Lea Tesoro (Opal Lei in Second Life)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements


The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of Novemeber 2nd Meeting Featuring: Anna Jaeger

[08:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team.


[08:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

 – 8:30 am Introductions

 – 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements

 – 8:45 am Mentor’s Central – featuring Ozma Malibu on the NPC wiki

 – 8:55 am Featured Presenter: Anna Jaeger, “Cloud Technology and the NGO Community” 

 – 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements


[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting. 


Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


 – Nonprofit Commons Blog:

 – Wiki:

 – Twitter:

 – Facebook:

 – Google Group:

 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:







[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Morning everyone, let’s start off with Introductions!


Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.


[08:33] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:33] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation

[08:33] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Caryn Heilman, Topia Arts Center in the Berkshires of NW, MA,, @TopiaArtsCenter

[08:33] Buffy Beale: heh heh HB 🙂

[08:33] HB Eternal: Go Buffy!

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:33] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:33] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH,,!/TAVAUS

[08:33] alebez: ale bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF, Ca. @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:34] Diantha Petrov: Lori Wahl

[08:34] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett , ElderVoices, Los Angeles, CA, Health Care and Human Rights

[08:34] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore, MD ,, , @PY1US

[08:34] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:34] Par (parhelion.palou): Phred Phlintstone, generic volunteer (no org), north of Baltimore, MD, no twitter or website

[08:34] Hour Destiny: Morris Cox, Nevada, @morriscox

[08:34] Atalanta Visage: Jennifer Siegel, National Service Inclusion Project, Boston, MA

[08:34] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org tech outreach, active in Arizona, Mexico and On the Road, @ozma

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Community Manager of the NonProfit Commons in Second Life,, @RhiannonSL …located in the Boston, MA area….which is a bit squishier post Sandy

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you joined us late, feel free to introduce yourself

[08:36] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Professor Carl Icann, Rockcliffe University, — I am hosting another Poetic Drum Circle at Burning Life on Sunday 9am SLT. This week’s theme is Election & Democracy Poetry. Location: Teleport to Burning Man- Black Rock (55,199,25) (DO NOT CLICK THIS!!!)

[08:36] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL

Social Research Foundation, NYC in RL

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[08:37] Sister (sister.abeyante): Sister Patrice Colletti, SDS Milwaukee, WI *** @SisterAbeyante *** @TechTips4Usds *** as well as a volunteer with Virtual Ability, Inc.




[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to TechSoup Announcements – today Alebez will be speaking

[08:38] alebez: Hello everyone, alebez here to give you the TechSoup updates for the week! Bulaklak sends his love, and also me. 🙂

[08:38] alebez: It was an exciting week at TechSoup and in the community!

[08:38] alebez: Windows 8 launched, we have announced a winner to our Technology in Action social media campaign, our goal was to generate stories to include on the local impact map – we got 28 entries!

[08:39] alebez: And if you’ve watched the news recently, hurricane Sandy is making headlines left and right. Not in a good way.

[08:39] alebez: Our content team thought it was important to address our community affected by hurricane Sandy, so our team came together worked hard to create hurricane Sandy disaster relief resources.

[08:39] alebez: But disaster preparedness doesn’t start or stop with just natural disasters. We also included a whole lot of content on technology’s impact on disaster relief.

[08:40] alebez: You can check out the roundup of those resources here in this bundle:

[08:40] alebez: The winner of our Technology in Action campaign was Get set, Go – a non profit based out of Wisconsin, but whose main arm is its Women’s Learning Center in Cambodia.

[08:40] Buffy Beale: that’s so innovative alebez for using the map, well done to TechSoup!

[08:40] alebez: 28 orgs submitted really amazing photographs showing how technology activates their organization and helps fulfill their mission.

[08:41] alebez: You can view some of the great photos, and the winning submission here:

[08:41] CarynTopia Silvercloud: thanks for the disaster relief efforts- much appreciated

[08:41] alebez: And finally, I wanted to announce the coming launch of the Windows 8 Apps for Social Good Contest. The contest goes live on Monday.

[08:41] alebez: Whether you are a hacker at heart, a social do-gooder, a youth activist, or a developer with an innovative mind and skills to implement, this contest seeks to bring together innovation with the means to create. Now’s the time to pow wow with your developer friends to make that great app idea you had one time happen.

[08:42] alebez: The prizes are great.


There are 3 categories of prizes: Best Overall Windows 8 App: $15,000; Best Overall Windows 8 Phone App: $15,000; People’s Choice App: $10,000


[08:42] alebez: Important Dates

  • Project submissions: November 5 – February 28
  • Public voting: March 1 – March 15
  • Winners Announced: March 25


[08:43] alebez: Ready to get started? Here’s how to proceed.

[08:43] alebez: Create a Windows 8 app focused on social good (collaborations encouraged!)

Publish the app in the Windows Store –

Register the application project on the contest website (will be when the contest goes live on Monday)

Check out the other apps, then vote on your favorites in March!

[08:43] Hour Destiny: I’m going to a code camp next Friday. Why doesn’t TechSoup have a Code Camp sometime?

[08:43] alebez: That’s a great idea, hour. and one we are currently exploring 🙂

[08:44] alebez: please let us know about your experience!

[08:44] alebez: that’s all folks!

[08:44] Frans Charming applauds

[08:44] Hour Destiny: It’s my 3rd year and counting.

[08:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks Alebez!

[08:44] alebez: thank you all




[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: on to Mentor’s Central!

[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Ozma Malibu speaking to us about the NPC wiki. Let’s welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.

[08:45] Ozma Malibu: OK!

[08:45] Buffy Beale: yay Oz!

[08:45] Gentle Heron: YAY Ozma!

[08:45] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Ozma!

[08:45] Ozma Malibu: haha. thanks.

[08:45] Par (parhelion.palou): Yay, Oz … even if you were responsible for the hurricane

[08:45] Ozma Malibu: Well. The Mentors Corner today will emphasize a useful TechSoup resource that is especially for us in the NPC.

[08:45] Ozma Malibu: I know, alas, the hurricane. (I am a Sandy too.)

[08:46] Ozma Malibu: Anyway.

[08:46] Ozma Malibu: Please don’t click the display btw. It may advance if you do.

[08:46] Ozma Malibu: The resource is the Nonprofits in Second Life Wiki, at

[08:47] Ozma Malibu: Seriously. Don’t click it.

[08:47] Ozma Malibu: …thank you… 🙂

[08:47] Ozma Malibu: Anyone can access the wiki for information

[08:47] Ozma Malibu: (here it is)

[08:48] Ozma Malibu: BUT if you want to be an editor, you must first create an account, and then ask Rhiannon for editing permission.

[08:48] Ozma Malibu: (up there at the top is where you create an account)

[08:49] Ozma Malibu: The NPSL wiki is full of useful information, all in one place. You can send new members here

[08:49] Ozma Malibu: (saves time and is fun for them)

[08:50] Ozma Malibu: But,, you’ll also find much that’s new and interesting no matter how long you’ve been a resident here.

[08:50] Ozma Malibu: (so check it out)

[08:51] Ozma Malibu: Here for instance are the Upcoming Events.

[08:51] Ozma Malibu: Transcripts of meetings. Blog posts.

[08:51] Ozma Malibu: There is an #npsl twitter feed that you may want to contribute to.

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: (sorry I’m late… Susan Tenby, Online Community and Social Media Director, TechSoup, SF CA USA logging in from Maui, Hawaii @suzboop @techsoup

[08:52] Ozma Malibu: At the top, you’ll find buttons to the NPSL presence on Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.

[08:52] Ozma Malibu: so useful.

[08:52] Ozma Malibu: Over on the left, in the Navigation section, you’ll see the Mentoring link. Click on it!

[08:53] Ozma Malibu: well, wait til you get to the actual wiki please.

[08:53] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[08:53] Ozma Malibu: A bit of history: this was originally the Docent section, and that title lives on in the page tA bit of history: this was originally the Docent section, and that title lives on in the page title.

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: ah didn’t think that went through.

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: Now, some parts of the Wiki need to be periodically updated, and so the Mentors are currently updating the list of available Mentors, which is on the siki.

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: We’d like to invite all of you to volunteer. There are three levels of Mentors, so any amount of expertise and any amount of time you can give are just fine.

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: If you think it sounds like fun but have cold feet, you can also just attend Mentor meetings and sign up later.

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: To serve as a welcome wagon mentor, all you have to do is to take new members under your wing and be friendly. If you have building skills, etc., that is wonderful, but it is not necessary.

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: Instructors have skills of one kind and another, and when a newbie is stuck on a Second Life question, an Instructor can help the necessary skills. You don’t need to possess many skills to volunteer for this position – sign up for what you know!

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: Mentors’ Mentors are people with great skills, and little time. When the Mentors are working with someone who needs help, and don’t have sufficient skills yet for a particular problem, they can call on one of the Mentors’ Mentors for advice. Again, you can just sign up for the specific skills that you want to offer.

[08:56] Ozma Malibu: So, Mentoring is a great way to fulfill your volunteer obligation to the NPC, have fun, learn a lot, dream a lot, and it’s a further opportunity for networking. Remember, Mentor meetings happen every Friday. right after this one.

[08:56] Ozma Malibu: And please do check out the the wiki – often!

[08:56] Ozma Malibu: thank you!

[08:56] Frans Charming applauds

[08:56] Ozma Malibu: that’s all!

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you very much, Ozma! This was great!

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Ozma – Thanks for leading Mentors Central today!

[08:56] Hour Destiny: If only there were an app for that. 🙂

[08:56] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri,, @brenabenoir

[08:56] Sister (sister.abeyante): Thanks, helkpful info

[08:57] Buffy Beale: yay Oz that was great!




[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Time for today’s main presenter

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome Anna Jaeger of TechSoup (Sage Ovetcher in SL), who will speak to us today on TechSoup’s recent Cloud Technology Survey and the primary advantages, barriers and motivations that nonprofits, libraries, and NGOs from around the world reported for moving their IT to the cloud.

[08:57] Glitteractica Cookie: Le W00t!

[08:57] Glitteractica Cookie: go anna!

[08:57] alebez: anna!

[08:57] Sage Qvetcher: Thanks, Susan

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a brief bio:

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Anna Jaeger, the Director of Microsoft Program and Special Projects, was also the co-founder of the GreenTech Initiative at TechSoup Global. GreenTech’s mission is to help nonprofits and libraries reduce their environmental impact through the effective use of technology, including cloud technologies. Prior to her work on the Global Cloud Survey, Ms. Jaeger lead TechSoup Global’s IT Engineering Department, which implemented and maintained all enterprise software and websites.

[08:58] Sage Qvetcher: Hello all and thank you for the chance to share the results of our survey with all of you.

[08:58] Glitteractica Cookie: Hey Sage!

[08:58] Glitteractica Cookie: I love yr last name

[08:58] Buffy Beale: cheering!

[08:58] Glitteractica Cookie: Qvetcher… Second Life/Jewish spelling

[08:58] Sage Qvetcher: Thanks! Me too.

[08:58] Glitteractica Cookie: 🙂

[08:58] Sage Qvetcher: It fits me so well.

[08:58] Glitteractica Cookie: ha ha

[08:58] Ozma Malibu: love it

[08:58] Gentle Heron: It’s a great name, however it’s spelled.

[08:59] Sage Qvetcher: My name is Anna Jaeger and I am a director at TechSoup Global in San Francisco.

[08:59] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Love Yiddish

[08:59] Sage Qvetcher: Well, make sure to kibbitz during the presentation then.

[09:00] Sage Qvetcher: This will be a brief presentation of a tiny sliver of our data. 

If you have questions, comments or want to delve deeper, please feel free to reach out to me afterwards at

[09:00] Rhiannon Chatnoir: presentation slides are up behind you – let me know if you need any help advancing

[09:00] Sage Qvetcher: thanks

[09:00] Sage Qvetcher: Trying to pan

[09:00] Sage Qvetcher: but it is slow

[09:00] Sage Qvetcher: Next Slide (2):

My goals for this presentation are:

Understanding what organizations from around the world have said about the advantages to, barriers of and motivators for using cloud computing.

[09:00] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lots of avatars present….makes things slower

[09:01] Sage Qvetcher: Familiarize you with the types of applications and the specific applications nonprofits are already adopting.

[09:01] Sage Qvetcher: Let you know how to find more information.


Given the mountain of data we collected, this final bullet is most critical.

[09:02] Sage Qvetcher: Why did we do a global cloud survey?

[09:02] Sage Qvetcher: We wanted to gauge how NGOs worldwide are currently using cloud products and services

[09:03] Sage Qvetcher: Measure how NGOs perceive barriers to and advantages of cloud computing adoption 


Understand these organizations’ future plans for cloud computing adoption

[09:03] Sage Qvetcher: Help capacity-building organizations, consultants, donors, and foundations better support the social benefit sector in making informed decisions about whether cloud-based solutions are right for them.


I also think the final bullet on this slide is the most important.

[09:03] Sage Qvetcher: I promise the slides will get more visually interesting in a moment. 🙂

[09:04] Sage Qvetcher: but not yet

[09:04] Sage Qvetcher: We needed to pick a definition that was short, easy to understand and easy to translate. We couldn’t be all inclusive without greatly expanding the length of the survey

[09:04] Sage Qvetcher: So, we focused mostly on software as a service (SaaS).

[09:05] Sage Qvetcher: The survey was conducted in the 1st half of 2012

We published the survey in 21 languages and received 10,593 usable responses from respondents in 88 countries.

[09:05] Sage Qvetcher: We released the report in September 2012

The full report is available online, free of charge

Our executive summary is published in 19 languages

And in addition, we have 25 individual country-level reports

[09:06] Glitteractica Cookie: That is so impressive, it bears repeating! nearly 10,600 answered surveys!

[09:06] Sage Qvetcher: Here is the breakout of responses by region:

  • Europe: 37%
  • US/Can: 33%
  • Asia: 13%
  • S. Africa/Egypt: 4%
  • Aus/NZ: 4%
  • Undefined: 6%

[09:06] Sage Qvetcher: 74% from the highest GDP category (>$20K per capita)

[09:07] Sage Qvetcher: How is my speed? Am I going too fast or too slow?

[09:07] Rhiannon Chatnoir: doing fine

[09:07] Sage Qvetcher: Everything I am presenting here today is available in the report

[09:07] Glitteractica Cookie: doing great, Sage!

[09:07] Sage Qvetcher: I will give you the URL to the full reportand the translations at the end of the presentation

[09:07] Sage Qvetcher: Thanks.

[09:08] Sage Qvetcher: As you can see, our data is heavily focused on Western countries and rich countries

[09:09] Sage Qvetcher: However, in the report, we did break out some of the data by country and by region and by country GDP

[09:09] Sage Qvetcher: We did that so that you could see how individual countries differed from the average data set

[09:10] Sage Qvetcher: Given the nature of the outreach, the questions asked, and the fact that the survey was taken online, the survey sample skews toward those working in organizations that have access to the Internet and are engaged with cloud computing.

[09:11] Sage Qvetcher: uh-ohConsequently, cloud usage levels reported here may be higher than actual levels among all NGOs.

[09:11] Sister (sister.abeyante): Sage- I’m wondering- how did NGOs select themselves to participate? How did you connect with them?

[09:11] Sage Qvetcher: Ah! Good question

[09:12] Sage Qvetcher: They did self-select and self-identify

[09:12] Sage Qvetcher: However, we did outreach in our normal means, which means that we were targeting NGOs, libraries and other social benefit orgs. 

  • 90% of respondents worldwide are using cloud computing.
  • 79% say the greatest advantage is easier software/ hardware administration.
  • 60% say lack of knowledge is the greatest barrier.
  • 53% report plans to move a “significant portion” of their IT to the cloud within three years.
  • 47% say cost-related changes and ease of setup would be the greatest motivators for moving their IT to the cloud.

[09:13] Sage Qvetcher: Keep in mind that these numbers represent only the respondents

[09:13] Sage Qvetcher: We are not saying that 90% of all NGOs aworld wide are using the cloud.

[09:13] Sage Qvetcher: Familiarity with many of these applications is not surprising. 

Facebook, Gmail, Skype and Twitter are common words in everyday vernacular.

[09:14] Sage Qvetcher: However, it is interesting to note how different actual usage of these applications is.

[09:14] Glitteractica Cookie: ppl don’t even realize they are using the cloud, often

[09:14] Sage Qvetcher: You can see here that Twitter usage dropped to 38% from a familiarity percentage of 90%. So, most people have heard of twitter, but only 1/3rd use it at their nonprofits.

[09:15] Rhiannon Chatnoir: very true Glitteractica

[09:15] Sage Qvetcher: Yes, our study found that people didn’t know what the cloud was and when they were using it.

[09:16] Sage Qvetcher: People indicated that they didn’t use the cloud for collaboration and then in another question indicated that they use Skype and web conferencing tools like ReadyTalk and WebEx.

[09:16] Sarvana Haalan: Like how fols refer to it… Up there… in the cloud…. of th ecloud

[09:16] Sage Qvetcher: NTEN calls this the “Hidden cloud”

[09:16] Sarvana Haalan: *folks

[09:16] Sage Qvetcher: While it is not surprising that ease of use and access featured highly as advantages (79% reported it as a major advantage). It was interesting that cost also was noted as a major advantage (62%).

[09:17] Sage Qvetcher: Survey respondents identified costs and data security (54%) as both advantages and barriers to cloud computing.

[09:17] Sarvana Haalan: I am consern about content rights in the cloud 🙂

[09:17] Par (parhelion.palou): Data security is NOT an advantage to cloud computing

[09:17] Sage Qvetcher: You should be.

[09:17] Sarvana Haalan: *concern… sorry can’t spell today… smiles

[09:18] Sage Qvetcher: Well, data security may be an advantage for nonprofits who have their data on a server sitting on the floor in their bathroom (true story) or on their back porch

[09:18] Sage Qvetcher: It is really dependent on the situation

[09:18] Orange Planer: Sorry I’m late.

[09:18] Orange Planer: Data security?

[09:18] Hour Destiny: Encrypt before sending to the cloud.

[09:18] Sage Qvetcher: If you are Free Tibet, it may not be an advantage, but a concern.

[09:19] Sage Qvetcher: BTW, please remember

[09:19] Sarvana Haalan: excellent idea Hour… thanks

[09:19] Sage Qvetcher: We are reporting what people cited in the survey. I am not saying that any of these are or are not an advantage or concern for any of you.

[09:20] Sage Qvetcher: Lack of knowledge was the group of barriers that were reported at the highest rates (60%). 

30% of respondents said they didn’t know enough about cloud computing to know what the barriers are.

[09:20] Sage Qvetcher: Lack of knowledge was consistently reported as a barrier across geographies and organization sizes.

[09:20] Hour Destiny: Cloud == hosted services.

[09:20] Sage Qvetcher: The only barrier cited more frequently by smaller organizations was lack of knowledge.

[09:20] Sage Qvetcher: Medium organizations were on average 10% more likely to cite any barriers to cloud computing adoption.

[09:21] Sage Qvetcher: Large organizations were 18% more likely to cite barriers. 

Respondents at large organizations cited all the barriers to cloud computing adoption (except lack of knowledge) at higher levels than other organizations.

[09:21] Sage Qvetcher: Noncontrollable Externalities like “unstable electric grid” and “lack of dependable internet connection” were cited by 34% of respondents. Even in some of the wealthiest nations.

[09:21] Sister (sister.abeyante) nods on that one!

[09:21] Sage Qvetcher: We also did some individual interviews and were able to include those in the report.

[09:21] Sage Qvetcher: NGO voice: “When you’re talking about broadband in South Africa, you’re not talking about broadband in somewhere like San Francisco. You’re talking about something that’s probably about a quarter of the speed.” Technology Development Manager, South African NGO

[09:22] Sage Qvetcher: Cost factors and Ease of Setup factors were reported most frequently (47%) as changes that would most motivate organizations to move more of their IT to the cloud.

[09:22] Sage Qvetcher: Interestingly, even though 60% of respondents indicated that lack of knowledge was their greatest barrier, only 37% cited training as something that would help overcome the barriers.

[09:22] Sage Qvetcher: Large organizations cited more motivators overall for moving to the cloud than smaller organizations. In particular, they reported cost-related changes, making integration easier, the reduction of security risks, and providing remote management at higher-than-average rates.

[09:23] Sage Qvetcher: Medium-sized organizations reported making integration easier, adjusting their budget, and providing remote consulting at higher-than-average rates.

[09:23] Sage Qvetcher: With regards to timeframe…

[09:23] Sage Qvetcher: 53% plan to move a “significant portion” of their IT to the cloud within 3 years

[09:24] Sage Qvetcher: However, 36% have no plans to move to the cloud

[09:24] Sage Qvetcher: India, Africa/Middle East, and Mexico report the most accelerated reported timeframes with 74% of respondents in India reporting that they will move to the cloud within 3 years.

[09:24] Sage Qvetcher: Specifically, our data indicates that the more cloud-based apps respondents say are being used at their organization, the more advantages they report to using cloud computing and the faster their reported timeframe is for adopting cloud-based apps in the future.

[09:25] Sage Qvetcher: Medium-sized organizations reported the most aggressive timeframe for moving IT to the cloud, with 22% reporting they plan to move a significant portion of their IT to the cloud within one year.

Medium-sized organizations were defined as organizations with 10 to 44 full-time staff and volunteers.

[09:25] Orange Planer: I’m sure those virtual people will be of great help.

[09:25] Sage Qvetcher: You can also see in the lower left of the slide, that several of the nations from the lowest GDP tier reported the fastest timeframe for adopting cloud technologies. What does that mean for organizations in those countries? How might we need to tailor educational content differently in those countries?

[09:26] Sage Qvetcher: The top three or four application types on this list are not surprising: File storage/Sharing, email, data backup/recovery and office productivity like Google docs and Office365.

[09:26] Sage Qvetcher: These were closely aligned with the types of applications that were reported to be already in use in the cloud.

[09:27] Sage Qvetcher: What have we learned?

We need to offer more precise solutions. Solutions that work in verticals and minimize configuration.

[09:27] Glitteractica Cookie: i’m surprised online collab and communication is not on that list

[09:27] Orange Planer: Things that save money directly will be first on the list.

[09:27] Orange Planer: That is – those things that eat up the most storage.

[09:27] Sage Qvetcher: I am sure they are there, perhaps just lower down.

[09:27] Sage Qvetcher: But yes, it is surprising that they are not higher up.

[09:28] Sage Qvetcher: I am guessing it is because when thinking of adoption

[09:28] Glitteractica Cookie: yeah, maybe we need to add on our findings that we need to promote those apps better, via techsoup

[09:28] Sage Qvetcher: people first think “how can I make what I already do easier?”

[09:28] Orange Planer: No.

[09:28] Orange Planer: They will think “how can I save money.”

[09:28] Sage Qvetcher: They don’t think of collaboration as something they do on computers.

[09:28] Sage Qvetcher: Collaboration is 5th on the list

[09:29] Sister (sister.abeyante): Collaboration using technology as an interface is strongly influenced by the cultural context, too.

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are ahead of the curve in that regards.. I imagine all of us here think of collaborating online and in the cloud

[09:29] Sage Qvetcher: Very true

[09:29] Sage Qvetcher: We still have significant externalities that impact organizations’ ability to take advantage of technology. Externalitites like no reliable power or no reliable internet. We need to be supporting the good work that organizations like Inveneo are doing to help make those externalities a thing of the past.

[09:29] Sage Qvetcher: We also need to support those organizations that can connect but, for whatever reasons, have not yet done so.

[09:30] Ozma Malibu: so interesting!

[09:30] Sage Qvetcher: As you all know from your experiences here…

[09:30] Sage Qvetcher: Training is something everyone needs. And it’s hard. We know we need it. But it’s hard to make “go to a technology training class” the most important thing on the to-do list. We have to figure out how we, as capacity builders, leverage technology and our relationships across a number of sectors to offer answers to questions on demand, create mentorships, office hours for experts who are willing to donate their expertise. We need to think about how we get knowledge to people where and when they need it. And how we do that when getting the answer is urgent.

[09:30] Sister (sister.abeyante): Agree, Sage, or take a lead in creating solutions that can use the available techologies- in Africa, for example, the major growth is use of cell phone based techologies, not in using internet/computers.

[09:30] Sage Qvetcher: Exactly

[09:30] Sage Qvetcher: Answers must be locally relevent

[09:31] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Can you take questions?

[09:31] Sage Qvetcher: And culturally sensitive

[09:31] Sage Qvetcher: Sure

[09:31] Sage Qvetcher: We need to know more about the technology usage of the organizations we all serve. We all know bits and pieces of the usage. And surveys, like this one and like NTEN’s State of the Cloud, help us. But we can also do a better job of thinking through the strengths and capacities we each bring, fitting those together so that we can get to solutions that work on the ground for the organizations we serve.

[09:31] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): What are the implications of the Cloud and this survey on Corporate Social Responsibility? And corporate use of NGOs in their advertising?

[09:33] Sage Qvetcher: Well, we hope that CSR groups will leverage the data to make better choices for their philanthropy

[09:33] Sage Qvetcher: We are working with the TSG donor partners to use this data to provide resources for NGOs and libraries

[09:33] Sage Qvetcher: Mostly, we are focusing on getting training out there.

[09:34] Sage Qvetcher: Making knowledge available so that NGOs can make informed choices.

[09:34] Sister (sister.abeyante): I imagine the training question is a “cart before the horse” question sometimes too- an org that needs training, but can’t access it because… they do not yet have the training to access it!

[09:34] Sage Qvetcher: We hope that corporations and foundations will use this data to offer the right resources at the right time.

[09:35] Sage Qvetcher: Yes, or they don’t have the internet access to be able to access the training

[09:35] Sister (sister.abeyante) nods

[09:35] Sage Qvetcher: It will take a village to get many of the world’s NGOs up and running in a safe way on cloud technologies

[09:35] Sage Qvetcher: I hope that these survey results might help some of you do just that with regards to the cloud and how NGOs are using it or want to use it.

[09:35] Orange Planer: I think Sister is saying that some organization’s employees aren’t internet savvy enough to understand how to use online training effectively.

[09:36] Sage Qvetcher: Absolutely

[09:36] Sage Qvetcher: In those cases, we need other orgs who are on the ground who first help get NGOs equipped to use computers

[09:36] Gentle Heron agrees with Sister. Sometimes the TOPIC of an online event is the motivator for people to learn the technology. We need to consider that as well.

[09:36] Sister (sister.abeyante): Yes, Orange- or they don’t yet have a clue what is possible becuase they don’t yet have the tech to find out what’s “out there” too.

[09:36] Sage Qvetcher: We need orgs like Inveneo who get orgs connected.

[09:37] Sage Qvetcher: As Allen “Gunner” Gunn from Aspiration has said, “The cloud is not a fad.” We need to help social benefit organizations “Adopt the cloud on their terms, not someone else’s terms.”

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[09:37] Glitteractica Cookie: agree

[09:37] Hour Destiny: I’ve suggested for some time a “wizard” to help NGOs find what they need/want. Maybe I’ll actually build it some day.

[09:37] Sage Qvetcher: TechSoup can put resources out there, but we are not the org who can get to the ones who don’t have computers or internet access.

[09:38] Sage Qvetcher: A wizard would be lovely.

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other questions for Sage

[09:38] Sister (sister.abeyante): Great idea, Hour- I guess I am even one or two steps prior to that… an org that doesn’t have a computer connected to the internet or a person who knows how to use it…. but would multiply their impact localy if they did.

[09:38] Sage Qvetcher: Thank you for your time today. Does anyone have any more questions or comments?

[09:38] Sage Qvetcher: Also, think of libraries and other places with public access computers

[09:39] Ozma Malibu: that is wonderful work you have done, Sage.

[09:39] Sage Qvetcher: Those are GREAT resources for the newbies.

[09:39] Sage Qvetcher: Thank you Ozma

[09:39] Sister (sister.abeyante): True- and those do not exist in many countries/ cultures/ comunities.

[09:39] Hour Destiny: You also need to overcome the fear that TechSoup is “too good to be true”.

[09:39] Sage Qvetcher: Well, surprizingly, a lot do

[09:39] Sister (sister.abeyante): Thanks, Ozma- excellent info and wow, what a great research!

[09:39] Sage Qvetcher: Telecenters are in many many places

[09:39] Sage Qvetcher: Check out

[09:40] Sage Qvetcher: They have resources for public access computers

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks Anna/Sage for presenting to us today

[09:40] Sage Qvetcher: I encourage you to read the report. It is free

[09:40] Diantha Petrov: Thank you

[09:40] Sage Qvetcher: Thanksto all of you.

[09:40] Diantha Petrov: This is great information

[09:40] Sister (sister.abeyante): Wonderful!

[09:40] emilia Avindar: thanks for the info 🙂

[09:40] Buffy Beale: cheering! great info ty

[09:40] Ozma Malibu: I will read it.

[09:41] Ozma Malibu: great joy that someone is doing work on this level.

[09:41] Glitteractica Cookie: i think we (techsoup) can help folks believe in the truth of techsoup and trustworthiness if we position ourselves more aligned with nonprofits. We are a nonprofit, and not many ppl see this b/c we have a corporate voice more often than not,unfortunately (my opinion)

[09:41] Sister (sister.abeyante): Will you post your entire powerpoint to the NPC blog?

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Transcript of this will also go up on the NPC blog so if you missed any of it, you can catch u pon it there

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and if Anna is ok with it, we can post her powerpoint?

[09:41] Glitteractica Cookie: is the URL of that blog, for those of you who don’t know

[09:42] Gentle Heron: Glitter, that’s an interesting observation, and important I believe. How can TechSoup create its image as a “fellow nonprofit”?

[09:42] Glitteractica Cookie: we should have this up on the techsoup slideshare page as well, if we don’t already

[09:42] Sage Qvetcher: Absolutely

[09:42] Sage Qvetcher: Post away

[09:42] Sister (sister.abeyante): Thanks, Sage!




[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets move on to Open Mic and Announcements

[09:42] Sage Qvetcher: Also, we will be hosting webinars on elements of cloud computing, like security and cost.

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and thanks again Sage … will put the slides up then as well

[09:42] Sage Qvetcher: Thank you

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Anyone have any announcements for today

[09:43] Gentle Heron: I have one.

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: go ahead Gentle

[09:43] Gentle Heron: This Sunday, November 4, at 1pm SLT, Virtual Ability sponsors a presentation titled “Interprofessional health care education: Application to health literacy.”

[09:43] Gentle Heron: The presenters will be talking about the recent All Together Better Health (ATBH) conference in Kobe, Japan.

[09:43] Gentle Heron: You might think… health literacy–doesn’t apply to me or my interests.

[09:43] Gentle Heron: But these presenters will be talking about COLLABORATION, and that’s what we’re all about, right?

[09:43] Gentle Heron: Please attend if you can: Sunday Nov 4, 1pm SLT, Sojourner Auditorium, Virtual Ability Island.

[09:43] Gentle Heron: Please let me know if you want the promo notecard which includes all the info plus speaker bios plus LM and SLURL.

[09:43] Gentle Heron: (done)

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Cool!

[09:44] Orange Planer: I have one also.

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks.. anyone else

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: OK, go Orange

[09:44] Orange Planer: I now have an official excuse to be here.

[09:44] Orange Planer: I am now the network administrator for Homeowner Options for Massachusetts Elders, whose information can be found here:

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: congrats 🙂

[09:45] Buffy Beale: yay Orange!

[09:45] Hour Destiny: Gratz!

[09:45] Tori Landau: Congrats Orange °͜°

[09:45] Ozma Malibu: congratulations!

[09:45] Orange Planer: Essentially, we assist elderly homeowners to stay in their homes when they face financial difficulties such as badly-done reverse mortgages, predatory lending, among others.

[09:45] Orange Planer: H.O.M.E. is registered as a non-profit organization in the TechSoup website.

[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: maybe we could create a story on your org on our local impact map

[09:45] Orange Planer: I’d love to do that.

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: ok, we will connect you with the techsoup staffer who is running that

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Orange for letting us know

[09:46] Sage Qvetcher: Yay!

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Tori.. you had an announcement?

[09:46] Tori Landau: Ty Rhiannon….

[09:46] Tori Landau: Open University’s rooftop bop is Wed 7th Nov at 1pm slt

[09:47] Tori Landau: with DJ Anjoux Herbit spinning live and taking requests °͜°

[09:47] Tori Landau: chance for everyone to just chill and mix

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[09:47] Tori Landau: at Deep Think

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks Tori

[09:47] Tori Landau: rooftop of communal building at Deep Think West… nearly forgot to say where lol

[09:48] Gentle Heron: Tori, you might way what Open University is….

[09:48] Tori Landau: eek – forgot – not 1pm, 2pm slt

[09:48] Orange Planer: Well, I assume it’s Open, not Closed University….

[09:48] Gentle Heron: might *say

[09:48] Tori Landau: Open University is a university based in the UK that specialises in distance learning

[09:49] Tori Landau:

[09:49] Gentle Heron loves the idea of open education!

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod

[09:49] Tori Landau: has a rl campus at Milton Keynes, some parts of which are reflected in the design of Deep Think

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: also want to mention that Next week we have Opal Lei as the featured presenter on scripting and getting the code you need for your organization’s virtual presence.


To help tailor this presentation for NPC, Opal requests that you fill out a survey before November 8:


[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so if you have coding/scripting questions …. please fill out this coming week 🙂

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Opal rocks!

[09:50] Buffy Beale: sounds great

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if not, lets close this week’s meeting …

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


Nonprofit Commons Blog:


 – Wiki:

 – Twitter:

 – Facebook:

 – Google Group:

 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:





Thanks everyone and see you next week!

[09:51] Sage Qvetcher: Thank you

[09:51] Buffy Beale: thanks Rhi great job!

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks again Sage

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Great meeting!

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks Sage!

[09:52] Sarvana Haalan: sorry I was late… checking in… Sally S. Cherry, Baltimore, MD @SarVana/@CHAREproject

[09:52] Tori Landau: Many thanks and hope to be here next week again as missed some weeks

[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Mentor meeting next I believe

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Sage and Ozma this week!

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: yes, thanks all

[09:52] Tori Landau: bye everyone °͜°

[09:52] alebez: thank you!

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors Meeting at 10! Please join us!

[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great and thanks all

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of October 26th meeting – featuring John (Pathfinder) Lester


[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Hello and Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!


The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team.


[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

 – 8:30 am Introductions

 – 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements

 – 8:45 am John Lester: “To Invent the Future, we must Build Dreams” 

 – 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements


[08:34] Glitteractica Cookie: Good Morning

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[08:34] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): Morning


[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting. 


Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


 – Nonprofit Commons Blog:

 – Wiki:

 – Twitter:

 – Facebook:

 – Google Group:

 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:






[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Hello everyone, let’s start off with Introductions!

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.

[08:34] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation

[08:34] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL; Social Research Foundation, New York, NY

[08:34] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:35] Delenn Daines: Judy Kelly, Biology Dept. Henry Ford community college, dearborn MI

[08:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko, MA AFC | Counselor, Coach, & Tutor of Personal Finance in Private Practice | | @jerrybuchko

[08:35] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH,,!/TAVAUS

[08:35] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, TechSoup, SF, Ca. 94110 @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:35] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global,, @TechSoup @mmdlong, San Francisco, CA US

[08:35] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online COmmunity and Social Media Director, TechSoup. Logging in from Maui, Hawaii this morning, and it’s 5:30am (ouch!) Aloha! @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:35] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc Los Angeles , CA Health Care and Human Rights

[08:35] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Caryn Heilman, Topia Arts Center in the Berkshires in NW, MA, www.TopiaArts,org, @topiaartscenter

[08:35] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org (Arizona, California & On the Road), @ozma

[08:35] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): Ricky Davis, San Antonio, TX DJ STEELE, HIV/AIDS Peer support, DJ and now SL clothing designer conguering mesh next

[08:35] Pathfinder Lester: John Lester, Chief Learning Officer, ReactionGrid. @Pathfinder Montreal, Canada

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Community Manager for NonProfit Commons, Boston MA, @RhiannonSL,

[08:36] Kate Miranda: Kate Miranda, Music Island at Sea Turtle Island in SL, Arts Administrator in Toronto in RL

[08:36] Desmond Kestrel: Peter Bellin, (for profit, forgive me!), Anaheim California,

[08:36] Kim Anubis: Kim

[08:37] Sarvana Haalan: Sally S. Cherry, MT(ASCP), Baltimore, MD, @CHAREproject,

[08:37] Violet Meadow (nancy.hilltop): greetings nancy hilltop been rp playing instruments for tips at my linden home and pool and giving it to virtual ability

[08:37] Atalanta Visage: Jen Siegel, National Service Inclusion Project, Boston, MA

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you joined us late, please still introduce yourself!

[08:37] Shailey Garfield: Shailey Minocha, The Open University, UK

[08:38] Chimera Cosmos: I’m a fluffy cloud to me. Am I dressed???

[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: you are

[08:38] Chimera Cosmos: good 😉

[08:38] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Carl Icann – EDU resources @ and Events @ – I am hosting a Poetic DRUM CIRCLE at BURNING LIFE 9am SLT Sunday @ Burning Man- Black Rock (72,184,2)

[08:38] JoJa Dhara: joja dhara

[08:38] ChrisG Techsan: Chris Gibson TSTC vushi…

[08:38] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri, @brenabenoir

[08:38] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire Humanbe Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International @Humanbe

[08:38] ChrisG Techsan:

[08:39] Bevan Whitfield: Bevan Whitfield, Rockcliffe University www.urockcliffe.comSLACTIONS,

[08:39] JoJa Dhara: BEVAN!!!

[08:39] JoJa Dhara

[08:40] Chimera Cosmos: Liz Dorland – Washington U in St Louis but on sabbatical in the UK – U Sheffield ATM

[08:40] Bevan Whitfield: hey there 🙂

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks everyone..



[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: It is time for TechSoup Announcements!

[08:40] Chimera Cosmos: Great to see so many SL friends here 🙂

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Bulaklak

[08:40] bulaklak: Hiya, all!

[08:40] bulaklak: Great to be here on this October day.

[08:41] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful Peeps here!

[08:41] bulaklak: So just a few announcements from TechSoup land.

[08:41] bulaklak: We have a new product in our donation program, for eligible 501c3 nonprofits and public libraries

[08:42] bulaklak: npOffice – that will provide non-profits with a professional assessment to determine whether eligible organizations and libraries could benefit from migrating to Microsoft’s Office 365 cloud-based office and email platform.

[08:42] bulaklak: it includes o A telephone interview resulting in a detailed implementation proposal for migrating to the Office 365 platform

[08:42] bulaklak: more information about that here

[08:43] bulaklak:

[08:44] bulaklak: I also want to point to a new blog entry on our TSG “enterprise” blog by Alicja Peszkowska

[08:44] bulaklak: TechCamp is a program under Secretary Clinton’s Civil Society 2.0 Initiative to galvanize the technology community to assist civil society organizations. With the support of the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, Fundacja TechSoup organized TechCamp Sarajevo in close collaboration with the Office of eDiplomacy of the U.S. State Department

[08:44] bulaklak: Alicja, who works in our Warsaw office, attended the camp and wrote some cool stuff about her experiences

[08:44] bulaklak: Please read more of those here

[08:45] bulaklak:

[08:45] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Very cool 🙂

[08:45] Pathfinder Lester: nice

[08:45] bulaklak: Alicja is very cool =)

[08:45] Glitteractica Cookie: yes!

[08:45] bulaklak: So that’s all I’ve got for today!

[08:45] bulaklak: Have a great meeting and a great weekend!

[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks bulaklak



[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Time for today’s featured presenter….

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome John (Pathfinder) Lester, who will speak to us today on the key features of next generation virtual worlds and best practices on how to build truly engaging simulations within them. He will also give an overview of ReactionGrid’s “Jibe” platform

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: John’s focus is on 3D Simulations and Virtual Worlds for Learning. His background is in neuroscience research and medical education, and he previously worked at Harvard Medical School, Massachusetts General Hospital and Linden Lab. John is currently the Chief Learning Officer at ReactionGrid Inc. (, helping clients develop new systems for immersive learning using next-generation virtual world platforms that integrate with the web and mobile devices. For more information about John please see

[08:46] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Pathfinder!

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: take it away when your ready Pathfinder 🙂

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: Thank you! I’m very excited to be able to chat with everyone today.

[08:47] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) claps. 🙂

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: I’ll be going through some slides that you can see on the pictureboard behind me.

[08:47] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot… Pathfinder!!!

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: For about 20 min.

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: Then we can have Q and A.

[08:47] Gentle Heron: Welcome Pathfinder.

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: So, here we go

[08:47] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: whoops

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: there was a disturbance in the force

[08:48] Gentle Heron chuckles

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: but i am back

[08:48] Delenn Daines: LOL

[08:48] Chimera Cosmos: May the Force be with you!

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: Anyway, I find it interesting how many people have 3d-type images as their desktop

[08:48] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, I’d rather be “out there” in that picture…. 😉

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:48] Pathfinder Lester: I think it’s because we want this.

[08:49] Pathfinder Lester: We always crave 3d environments.

[08:49] Pathfinder Lester: And no, that’s not my RL desk.

[08:49] Pathfinder Lester: I live in Montreal. We do not have palm trees. 😉

[08:49] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:49] Kate Miranda: Or “Metaphors be with you” as we writers say.

[08:49] Pathfinder Lester: But when we simulate things in software, we’re always recreating things like this…

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: folders….files….2d desktops

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: we are constantly recreating what already exists

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: in 3d

[08:50] Sarvana Haalan: smiles

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: we dream of navigating places like this

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: So I’m going to talk a little bit about dreams today…

[08:50] Pathfinder Lester: as well as what I think are key best practices and feature for “next generation” virtual worlds.

[08:51] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:51] Pathfinder Lester: I see 3 key features for virtual worlds to really break out as a global phenomenon with many broad applications.

[08:51] Pathfinder Lester: I’ll go thru each of them

[08:51] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:52] Pathfinder Lester: I think we can all agree that the Web has become as ubiquitous as electricty.

[08:52] Pathfinder Lester: It is something we simply expect to be available, anywhere we go, just like electricity.

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: So I believe it follows that any next generation virtual world platform *must* be able to exist as part of the Web.

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: embedded in pages

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: and also accessible on mobile devices.

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: this image is an example of Rutgers embedding a virtual office in their website

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: they hold office hours there. 🙂

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:53] Pathfinder Lester: Second, I think next generation virtual world platforms must not only live *on* the web…

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: i agree

[08:54] Pathfinder Lester: but that they must also *integrate* with the web

[08:54] Pathfinder Lester: By that I mean they need to integrate with web-based applications and databases.

[08:54] Sarvana Haalan: indeed

[08:54] Hour Destiny:

[08:54] Pathfinder Lester: This pic is an example of how, when you walk up to a model of HIV in a virtual world…

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: there’s a script that goes to wikipedia and loads their page on HIV right on the same screen.

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: I think the key is to leverage all the existing web-based content and web-based apps….

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: That way your virtual world application can be part of a larger ecosystem.

[08:55] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:55] Gentle Heron: since it is anyway

[08:55] Shailey Garfield: sure, I agree

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: And lastly

[08:55] Pathfinder Lester: but definitely not least-ly

[08:56] Sarvana Haalan: welcome to my world… smile

[08:56] Pathfinder Lester: Next generation virtual worlds *must* focus on deep engagement and really capturing people’s imaginations.

[08:56] Pathfinder Lester: At the end of the day

[08:56] Pathfinder Lester: it’s all about content.

[08:56] Pathfinder Lester: Same with any medium of expression.

[08:56] Pathfinder Lester: This montage is all from SL.

[08:57] Pathfinder Lester: Over the years I’ve seen a number of places in SL that I think really capture this “deep engagement” idea.

[08:57] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Preach it, brother!

[08:57] Shailey Garfield: Content and how different media (audio, video, text) are combined to deliver it.

[08:57] Pathfinder Lester: Like a virtual recreation of ancient egyptian temples, where you can explore living history.

[08:57] Sarvana Haalan: amen

[08:57] Pathfinder Lester: Or a giant human larynx that you can fly through to understand the complex anatomical structure.

[08:57] Pathfinder Lester: I know you’ve all found places like this in SL and probably other virtual world platforms.

[08:58] Shailey Garfield: yes, or the cell in Genome Island.

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: It kind if punches you in the gut when you see it. You feel a visceral engagement and amazement.

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: Shailey, yes!

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: great example there too.

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: next

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: So.

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: What we end up creating in virtual worlds (or any new medium, to be honest)….

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: is most of the time a recreation of the familiar.

[08:58] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): lol

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: Safe.

[08:58] Kate Miranda: It’s not all visual though. It is the communities that keep us here.

[08:58] Pathfinder Lester: Recognizable.

[08:59] Pathfinder Lester: This is ok.

[08:59] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): You can just feel the joy there…. 😉

[08:59] Pathfinder Lester: Because familiar makes us feel safe. And feeling safe is not a bad thing, fundamentally.

[08:59] Pathfinder Lester: But…

[08:59] Pathfinder Lester: The deepest engagement does not happen when we feel completely safe.

[08:59] Pathfinder Lester: It happens when we see something bizarre and when we are *challenged* by our environmetn.

[09:00] Pathfinder Lester: That’s just how we our brains are wired.

[09:00] Shailey Garfield: and if we can see value in it

[09:00] Pathfinder Lester: Our brains kick into high gear when we’re challenged.

[09:00] Pathfinder Lester: Shaily, yes

[09:00] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:00] Chimera Cosmos: challenged within our capabilities, at least 🙂

[09:00] Pathfinder Lester: So, with virtual worlds, I think there *is* value in recreating *some* of the familiar.

[09:00] Glitteractica Cookie: agree, I’ve been looking for those sims (like human heart you could walk through or schizophrenia simulator) for years now. Those told the SL story best.

[09:01] Gentle Heron: actually Chimera, I think the challenge has to be a tiny bit stretching what we think our capabilities are.

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: Things like chairs and desks are cultural touchstones.

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: They ground us.

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:01] Chimera Cosmos: yes, a bit stretching, but not overwhelming

[09:01] Chimera Cosmos: and with support 🙂

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: But I believe the trick is in walking the razor’s edge…

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: balancing enough *familiar* with enough *truly fascinating*.

[09:01] Pathfinder Lester: This pic is from an employee training world we built for Microsoft.

[09:02] Pathfinder Lester: They loved this part of it where employees could run around a fantasy-type space and explore.

[09:02] Pathfinder Lester: yet, at the same time, they were answering very standardized questionnaires.

[09:02] Sarvana Haalan: I think to have been a bit conservative with my designing 🙁

[09:02] Pathfinder Lester: a balance between familar and fantastical

[09:02] Pathfinder Lester: It’s very tough to find that balance. But I think it’s well worth it.

[09:02] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:03] Pathfinder Lester: And I think the BEST place to look for inspiration for finding that balance is in human dreams.

[09:03] Pathfinder Lester: Our dreams are often a perfect mix of familiar/mundane and fantastical.

[09:03] Pathfinder Lester: We’ve all had dreams where we’re doing something normal, then something crazy happens.

[09:03] Pathfinder Lester: And those are always the most engaging types of dreams, in my opinioin.

[09:04] Pathfinder Lester: Like this pic on the slide

[09:04] Pathfinder Lester: “I was looking at the sphinx, then suddely the jet car from buckaroo banzai drove up to me…”

[09:04] Pathfinder Lester: classic mix of dream reality/surreality

[09:04] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (hmmm… connecting design of sim spaces with Jung… 🙂

[09:04] Pathfinder Lester: So I think as designers…

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: as people thinking about how to deeply engage visitors to virtual worlds….

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: I believe dreams are a good template to explore. 🙂

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: so build dreams

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: places that are a mix of familiar and fantastical…

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:05] Pathfinder Lester: And be sure to explore the full emotional spectrum of dreams…

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: They include moments of peace and contemplation

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: like this pic of me in my forest retreat in my Jibe demo world. 😉

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: and then moments of action/chaos

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: this is a pic of a meteor shower also in my Jibe demo world

[09:06] Pathfinder Lester: Virtual environments are as malleable as dreams.

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: So I think it’s important to explore the full range of emotional states in them.

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: again

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: it’s about finding balance

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: between everything.

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: So a bit about what I’ve been doing at ReactionGrid.

[09:07] Shailey Garfield: I think that meaning is important for engagement

[09:07] Pathfinder Lester: We have been working to do 2 things

[09:08] Pathfinder Lester: 1) we build and provide a general purpose virtual world platform called “Jibe”

[09:08] Pathfinder Lester: it has many of the features I think are key to next generation virtual worlds

[09:08] Pathfinder Lester: and 2) we actually build worlds and consult to help others build experiences,

[09:08] Pathfinder Lester: focused mainly on immersive learning and simulations.

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: So we make tools and then use our tools too.

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: back

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: that’s a pic of what Jibe is

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: lol

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: don’t worry

[09:09] Pathfinder Lester: it’s complex. but that’s the point.

[09:09] Hour Destiny: Ah, SmartFox Server. I have that. Also works for Unity3d.

[09:10] Pathfinder Lester: it’s not monolithic. it’s an ecosystem of tools.

[09:10] Delenn Daines: will it be on the test?

[09:10] Pathfinder Lester: some of them are commercial “best of breed” tech we’ve chosen. like unity3d and smartfox

[09:10] Pathfinder Lester: and other parts are written from scratch by us

[09:10] Pathfinder Lester: the point is…it’s modular

[09:10] Hour Destiny: And you’re in a different market than HeroEngine.

[09:10] Pathfinder Lester: which means, over time, as we look at using WebGL and HTML5, we can grow beyond Unity3d.

[09:11] Ellie Brewster doesn’t see voice

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: I think any next generation virtual world needs to be like that. Flexible enough to swap out parts so it can evolve to take advantage of new tech.

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: voice is in there

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: we use Vivox

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: but are also exploring teamspeak as a voice platform too

[09:11] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: integrating it all is hard

[09:11] Pathfinder Lester: it’s easier to build monolithic code

[09:12] Hour Destiny: Tried looking at Awesomium?

[09:12] Pathfinder Lester: but in the long run, modular system are more future-proof. they can evolve more easily.

[09:12] Pathfinder Lester: Hour, I think our CTO has looked at that. I haven’t tho.

[09:12] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:12] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): But it’s harder to evolve if you fall behind the tech curve …. 🙂

[09:12] Pathfinder Lester: This slide is just a pic of my Jibe demo world, which you can explore whenever you like.

[09:12] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:12] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.

[09:13] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): < is scared of giant chickens

[09:13] Pathfinder Lester: and this pic shows examples of you could embed something like a pre-existing web-based whiteboard with Jibe

[09:13] Pathfinder Lester: or a google slideshow

[09:13] Pathfinder Lester: the point is, scripts in the virtual world can communicate with scripts running on the webpage

[09:13] Pathfinder Lester: bidirectionally

[09:13] Ellie Brewster: what about seeing things together, at the same time?

[09:14] Pathfinder Lester: that’s truly being not just *on* the web, but being *part* of the web

[09:14] Pathfinder Lester: Ellie, what do you mean exactly?

[09:14] Pathfinder Lester: You mean synchronizing events between avatars?

[09:14] Ellie Brewster: The dragon, it spits fire, but I see it differently than someone else in the same space.

[09:14] Ellie Brewster: Your dragon, I mean.

[09:14] Pathfinder Lester: Gotcha. Yes, you have the option to make an event either “local” or “networked”

[09:14] Ellie Brewster: We don’t see it at the same time

[09:15] Ellie Brewster: Ah! thank you

[09:15] Pathfinder Lester: For many things in my demo world I just left things “local”

[09:15] Pathfinder Lester: that’s actually a very useful feature. for example….

[09:15] Pathfinder Lester: In one project we worked on, we had NPCs that everyone would see behaving and moving around like everyone else

[09:15] Pathfinder Lester: (a networked event)

[09:15] Pathfinder Lester: But, we also wanted each person to have their own personal guide helping them around the world.

[09:16] Pathfinder Lester: We made each personal guide a “local” event. Only each person saw and heard their own personal guide.

[09:16] Pathfinder Lester: So there’s the option of two realities. That’s actually common in things like MMOs.

[09:16] Pathfinder Lester: Some things, everyone sees at the same time and the same way.

[09:16] Hour Destiny: Propbuckets.

[09:16] Pathfinder Lester: Some things, each person sees only their unique “instance” of reality.

[09:17] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:17] Pathfinder Lester: So, moving on to broader ideas

[09:17] Pathfinder Lester: I think the most important thing to watch with virtual worlds to get an idea of next generation applications is the artists.

[09:18] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.

[09:18] Pathfinder Lester: Artists are ALWAYS the ones who figure out the true range of new media tools.

[09:18] Pathfinder Lester: There are many artists in SL who do this.

[09:18] Pathfinder Lester: pushing boundaries

[09:18] Pathfinder Lester: so, whatever new virtual world platform you are exploring….

[09:18] Pathfinder Lester: I would encourage you to find the artists. 🙂

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: I know there are some really amazing things happening with Cloud Party and artists

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: and also on Opensim

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: it’s worth keeping an eye on them

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: this slide is a pic of some immersive art that has been created using Jibe. you can visit it too

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:19] Pathfinder Lester: This is my last slide. 🙂

[09:20] Pathfinder Lester: I think the real future of virtual worlds in general will lie at the intersection of virtual spaces and physical places.

[09:20] Pathfinder Lester: the intersection of Augmented Reality and Virtual worlds

[09:21] Pathfinder Lester: There’s a lot happening right now with Augmented Reality, but I think there’s a single serious roadblock.

[09:21] Kate Miranda: Artists and the adult industry have been pioneers here, just as they were on the internet at large 🙂

[09:21] JoJa Dhara agree

[09:21] Pathfinder Lester: I think the roadblock is the fact that our mobile device are tiny screens we have to pull out of our pockets to see.

[09:21] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): like using Lumiya

[09:21] Pathfinder Lester: For things to really take off, I think we need something like Google’s Glass hardware.

[09:21] Pathfinder Lester: Something we wear.

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: Something that gives us a seamless malleable view of the world.

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: It’s interesting tho….

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: The first demo videos of Google Glasses are really not innovative at all…

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: they are just applications that already exist on your phone…now stuck on your face

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: maps, reviews, chat, pics, etc.

[09:22] Pathfinder Lester: But that’s common with any new tech

[09:23] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): or maybe integrating the phone Applause!! with a tablet app and/or game system apps

[09:23] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): APPLAUSE!!!

[09:23] Chimera Cosmos swats things away from face…

[09:23] Pathfinder Lester: we just use it like old tech at first. over time, new applications arise

[09:23] Pathfinder Lester: For example, imagine looking at a wall in the physical world

[09:23] Pathfinder Lester: and seeing it change. fade away. and you see a new room where the wall used to be. a fully virtual room.

[09:24] Pathfinder Lester: you can talk to the avatars/people sitting in that room just as easily as if they were physically there…

[09:24] Hour Destiny: I was able to use a WiiMote with a jailbroken iPhone to play a GameBoy game. 🙂

[09:24] Pathfinder Lester: I think the future lies in creating such malleable places. Blends of physical and simulation.

[09:24] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Question: What are your thoughts about where IO devices fit relative to future worlds & “must have”, e.g. BCIs and natural motion capture vs. mouse+keyboard?

[09:24] Frans Charming: Or have real people be replaced by their avatar.

[09:24] Pathfinder Lester: And all of the work everyone here has done with virtual worlds will be critical in building that broader future of malleable reality, in my opinoion. 🙂

[09:24] Pathfinder Lester: next

[09:24] Pathfinder Lester: That’s it.

[09:25] Frans Charming applauds

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: My slides are also on slideshare at

[09:25] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) applauds.

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: and you can grab a copy of the board behind me if you wish.

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: questions

[09:25] Gentle Heron: What a great vision, Pathfinder. Thank you for sharing.

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: >

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: ?

[09:25] Chimera Cosmos: Thanks Path – was going to ask about slideshare!

[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: Yay! Thank you!

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: I saw Jerry’s question

[09:25] Pathfinder Lester: IO devices

[09:26] Xon Emoto: Thank you John. Great talk!

[09:26] Octagon for Creative Exploration: Creative Coaching Oct.29 at 3pm SL!

[09:26] Ozma Malibu: Thanks for catching us up, and reporting from your vision of the future.

[09:26] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Any questions for Pathfinder

[09:26] Ellie Brewster: Really encouraging, John

[09:26] Pathfinder Lester: I think the real future of IO devices will be machines learning how to interpret our desires rather than us learning how to enter information into machines.

[09:26] Second Life: You decline ‘Creative Coaching, Oct. 2012’  ( Prism Lila (51,231,24) ) from Octagon for Creative Exploration.

[09:26] Ozma Malibu: (What about nonverbal communication? With the virtual room.)

[09:26] jacmacaire Humby: Bravo!!

[09:26] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Can you elaborate, John?

[09:26] Xon Emoto: John, are you experiencing an upswing in adoption of the avatar interface?

[09:26] Pathfinder Lester: So for example….imagine if your google glasses could sense from your body language/blood pressure/whatever that you are anxious becuase you are lost.

[09:27] Pathfinder Lester: it could then toss up a map before you have to ask for it.

[09:27] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Hmmmm 😀

[09:27] Pathfinder Lester: that’s kind of the ultimate IO in my opinion. understanding intent and desire without having to be explicit about it.

[09:27] Ozma Malibu: machines reading our minds then.

[09:27] Pathfinder Lester: ozma, kinda yes!

[09:27] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Well machines interpreting our output… 😉

[09:27] Pathfinder Lester: Jerry, yes

[09:27] Gentle Heron: Pathfinder, kind of like a virtual wife then, anticipating and fulfilling?

[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: that’s more of what I mean

[09:28] Ozma Malibu: BFF

[09:28] Xon Emoto: Ok, once we have that, our avatars will just come along naturally:)

[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: our body language is so complex

[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: we send so much data nonverbally

[09:28] Glitteractica Cookie: i’m interested to know if any nonprofits are using any of the tech you spoke about yet. (google glasses, new VW tech that is in reaction grid)

[09:28] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Xon, I think so… would make the tech more transparent to the user.

[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: Google Glasses are not yet availble to the public

[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: but they will be soon

[09:28] Frans Charming: For people interested in a future with Google glasses type devices and it replacing what you see in Real Life, I will recommend the book Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. It’s a amazing novel.

[09:28] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[09:29] Pathfinder Lester: Frans, yes. That’s a great book

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: no… they werent even available when I was at Singularity University this summer to play with

[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: they are still under wraps for the most part

[09:29] Xon Emoto: ty Frans

[09:29] Pathfinder Lester: I think once Google Glass-type devices are out there, we’ll see a real revolution happen. A blended reality where many of our dreams of virtual worlds will be able to take root and grow.

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir has hugged Verner Vinge

[09:30] Pathfinder Lester: It will just take probably about 10 years, methinks.

[09:30] Frans Charming: :O

[09:30] Pathfinder Lester: But all the skills you all here have learned…

[09:30] Rhiannon Chatnoir: at Singularity.. he spoke to us

[09:30] Desmond Kestrel: suspects less than 10 years

[09:30] Hour Destiny: I suspect we’ll see nonprofits using VWs before VR, mostly because with VWs they can interact with other organizations.

[09:30] Pathfinder Lester: in how to create virtual spaces and explore them….

[09:30] Ozma Malibu: I guess I will have to read Rainbow’s End again. It made me cry.

[09:30] Pathfinder Lester: those skills will be critical when exploring how to innovate in the future.

[09:30] Gentle Heron: Very very true, Hour!

[09:31] Pathfinder Lester: any other questions?

[09:31] Chimera Cosmos: I think that virtual spaces that are tied to the outside world have their own limitations. I favor a future with options for multiple kinds of immersion. 🙂

[09:31] Pathfinder Lester: Chimera, I agree.

[09:31] Chimera Cosmos: For different purposes and situations

[09:31] Chimera Cosmos: and people

[09:31] Pathfinder Lester: Imagine being able to switch your glasses into “fully simulated” mode

[09:32] Delenn Daines: Let’s take a virtual field trip to your jibe world John

[09:32] Pathfinder Lester: Delenn, I hold regular office hours in it

[09:32] Ellie Brewster: me/imagines herself falling down the stairs wearing google glasses

[09:32] Delenn Daines: cool

[09:32] Pathfinder Lester: lemme find the page and schedule…

[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: maybe a followup field trip would be nice.. when is your next office hours

[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: k

[09:32] Chimera Cosmos: so right Ellie! I can do that just checking email on my phone LOL

[09:32] Pathfinder Lester:

[09:32] Delenn Daines: thanks

[09:32] Gentle Heron: Deleen, we did that at a recent business conference set up by AgileBill Firehawk. I suspect that session is still online at Metaverse TV.

[09:33] Pathfinder Lester: I have an office hour today at noon PDT

[09:33] Pathfinder Lester: so if you visit at that time, I’ll be there 🙂

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂

[09:33] Pathfinder Lester: i think my time is up, so I’ll sit back down now

[09:33] Pathfinder Lester: ty for inviting me to speak today

[09:33] Pathfinder Lester: it’s great to see many familiar faces too 🙂

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thank you Pathfinder !

[09:33] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Great presi, John! Thank you! 😀

[09:33] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Thanks for this! Really good info.

[09:34] Frans Charming applauds

[09:34] Pathfinder Lester: my pleasure

[09:34] JoJa Dhara: Thank you for this inspiring speech 😉

[09:34] Glitteractica Cookie: Great presentation as usual, Pathfinder

[09:34] Gentle Heron: Thank you Pathfinder. Fascinating as always.

[09:34] Ellie Brewster: Really helpful, Path, thanks

[09:34] Shailey Garfield: Thanks, Pathfinder; fascinating and inspiring, as always!

[09:34] Xon Emoto: TY John, so encouraging 🙂

[09:34] Delenn Daines: thanks path, very interesting lecture



[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: It’s time for Open Mic!

[09:34] Frans Charming: Hi, I showed a ‘Twitter Garden’ last week, that displayed tweets in floating text and I promised to share the code. You can find the code and instructions here.

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Does anyone have any announcements to make

[09:34] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Thanks, Frans 🙂

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok Frans – thanks

[09:35] JoJa Dhara: Cool Frans thk

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: anyone else?

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: I do

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok Zinnia

[09:35] Gentle Heron: I do also.

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: It is Ozma’s Rez Day!!!!

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Ozma is amazing and we celebrate her today!

[09:36] Gentle Heron: Thank you for sharing that code, Frans. You are most kind.

[09:36] Frans Charming: Happy rezziversary! 😀

[09:36] Gentle Heron: Hey Congrats Ozma!

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: aww… happy Rez Day Ozma

[09:36] Brena Benoir: Woohoo Ozma! Happy Rez Day!

[09:36] Morgaine (morgaine.borgin): Thank you all and congrats Ozma

[09:36] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Thanks!

[09:36] Brena Benoir raises hand for open mic

[09:36] Ozma Malibu: Why thank you! I am having a perfect day, thus far.

[09:36] Bevan Whitfield: Happy Rez Day Ozma !

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements

[09:37] Bevan Whitfield: Rockcliffe University is doing its 6th Open House tomorrow from AM – PM

[09:37] Brena Benoir: Our Halloween Party will be at Wharf Ratz on Tuesday October 30 from 7 to 9pm with DJ lilTank

[09:37] Gentle Heron smiles at Bevan.

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: as a reminder we hold weekly meetings, same day/time.. so join the group if you want announcements and IM me if you are interested in speaking

[09:38] Chimera Cosmos: Oh! My Rez Day is Nov. 1. Almost forgot!

[09:38] Chimera Cosmos: Last year I DID forget.

[09:38] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Happy Rez Day!

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any links Bevan for the ROckliffe U open house?

[09:38] Frans Charming: Happy early Rez day!

[09:38] Kim Anubis: happy rezday 🙂

[09:38] Ozma Malibu: Yay us Fall babies, Chimera. 🙂 Happy rezday.

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Happy Rez Day Chimera!

[09:39] Chimera Cosmos: My Rez Day is the same day and year as Eshi Otawara. Now if only I had her artistic talent….hehe

[09:39] Chimera Cosmos: Well, it isn’t for a few days yet.

[09:39] Violet Meadow (nancy.hilltop): i’m playing violin for tips at my linden home from 6-8am sunday money goes to virtual ability

[09:39] Ozma Malibu: Hah well Chimera you certainly have talent, just use it in a different and also important direction.

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Gentle… you have an announcement

[09:39] Chimera Cosmos: Thanks Ozma 🙂

[09:40] Chimera Cosmos: Back atcha

[09:40] Gentle Heron: ***

If anyone wants to see how a virtual world can be used for medical education, I invite you to participate in research by Indiana University.

[09:40] Gentle Heron: Medical and nursing students are studying a curriculum about communication and teamwork.

[09:40] Gentle Heron: The researchers are asking for volunteers to become “virtual patients” to observe and critique the students.

[09:40] Gentle Heron: If interested, please IM me and I’ll send you a couple of notecards, one describing the study, the other the sign up demographic notecard to return to Kali Pizzaro.

[09:40] Gentle Heron: (that’s all)

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any others?

[09:41] Chimera Cosmos: Oh! I heard from Kali Pizzaro that you were working with the IU folks Gentle. Cool!. Cool!

[09:41] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): me!

[09:41] Gentle Heron: Yup Chimera! It’s so exciting.

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok, Carl

[09:41] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): I host a very fun event every Sunday… 

and this week we are at Burning Life … the SL version of Burning Man… 


I am hosting a Poetic DRUM CIRCLE at BURNING LIFE 9am SLT Sunday @ Burning Man- Black Rock (72,184,2)


I’d love to do a drum circle here at NonProfit Commons too!

[09:41] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Meet some “Burners” on Sunday! It will be a hoot!

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks

[09:42] Chimera Cosmos: Oh right…Burn2 – I have to get back over there before it’s all over.

[09:42] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): ends on Sunday! fyi

[09:42] Frans Charming: oh wow. I wouldn’t have even known,

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: good to know

[09:43] Chimera Cosmos: Yeah, and we are traveling all day Sunday. So that leaves today and tomorrow. Yikes!

[09:43] Chimera Cosmos: When are the Temple burns? Sunday?

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any more announcements before we wrap things up for this week

[09:44] Ozma Malibu: Mentor(ing) meeting?

[09:44] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Main Website for Burning Life

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Zinnia.. mentoring meeting following this?

[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks all for a wonderful mtg

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: yes

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:


Nonprofit Commons Blog:


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 – Google Calendar:



About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:






Thanks everyone and see you next week!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors!

[09:45] alebez: Thank you all!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s have a 5 minute break

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and again.. thanks Pathfinder for speaking

[09:45] Frans Charming applauds

[09:46] JoJa Dhara: thank you..have a grand weekend!

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Everyone is invited to Mentors Meeting!

[09:46] Pathfinder Lester: My pleasure Rhiannon. TY for inviting me.

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: next week we will have Anna Jaeger speaking on Cloud services and the survey TechSoup did

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Jeroen Frans: “Tools for Virtual Engagement” for the October 19th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 19th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Jeroen Frans, Frans Charming in Second Life, who will speak to us about tools for engagement in Second Life and focus specifically on the newer possibilities that are available, such as web integration, temporary attachments and teleport agent. 

Jeroen is a creative producer, virtual world technologist, and co-founder and CEO of the Vesuvius Group, LLC. As a futurist, he is always looking forward to how innovative technology can be used and enhanced. This drives him to try his hand in many technologies, and his early adoption has resulted in a wide skill set in programing, 3D, Web and game design, machinima and animation.

About The Vesuvius Group, LLC

The Vesuvius Group is a Full Service Solution provider for companies and institutions who desire to develop a presence or immersive experience in virtual worlds, social and game environments, with expertise in the virtual world platforms Second Life and OpenSim. The Vesuvius Group’s mission it is to support institutions and companies that are engaging in projects that make a difference in their member communities and the larger world.


Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 5th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater 



  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Jeroen Frans (Frans Charming in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

JoJa Dhara: “Walking Through Virtual Worlds: Connecting Virtuality with Reality” for the October 12th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 12th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Jolanda Mastenbroek-Dobberaka, aka JoJa Dhara in Second Life, who will speak to us about her experiences in virtual worlds, including her latest explorations into the web based virtual world Cloud Party, and her thoughts on the future of the 3D internet.

JoJa has been involved in community management within virtual worlds since 2006 and is a social media consultant and evangelist for virtual worlds in The Netherlands. She is a lead organizer of the yearly European conference MetaMeets about virtual worlds, augmented reality and the 3D internet. This year’s MetaMeets will take place November 30-December 1, 2012.

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 12th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater


  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Jolanda Mastenbroek-Dobberaka (JoJa Dhara in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir


The Friday, September 14th meeting featured featured Brian Kaihoi of Mayo Clinic speaking on using #virtualworlds for patient care, research, #education & #healthcare administration. 

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, September 14th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater
8:30 am Introductions
8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
8:45 am Mentors Central
8:55 am Featured Presenter: Brian Kaihoi
9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements
– Unabridged Transcript –
[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!
[08:36] Kate Miranda: Hope I didn’t sit on anyone
[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team
[08:37] Buffy Beale: heyyy Kate 🙂
[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:
8:30 am Welcome & Introductions
8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
8:45 am Mentors Central
8:55 am Mayo Clinic’s Virtual World Activities with Brian Kaihoi
9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements
[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting.
[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:
Nonprofit Commons Blog:
Google Group:
Google Calendar:
About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: So, Hello everyone, let’s start off with Introductions!
[08:38] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women
[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.
[08:38] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society, Wisconsin USA
[08:38] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC St. Louis MO @Coughran, @Innovaision
[08:38] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation
[08:38] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.
[08:38] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,
[08:38] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc. Los Angeles, CA Health Care and Human Rights
[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko
[08:38] Svea Morane: Brian Kaihoi, Mayo Clinic Rochester, MN
[08:38] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA
[08:38] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri,, @brenabenoir
[08:38] Lyssa Lyssa Rowan, Job Accommodation Network, Morgantown WV @JANatJAN
[08:38] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Online Community Manager, TechSoup Global, @TechSoup @MichaelDeLongSF, San Francisco, CA U.S.A.
[08:38] Chayenn: monique Richert, Protect Yourself1, Inc ., Baltimore MD, ,, @PY1US
[08:39] Jerod Bagley: Jerry Stapleton, University of Illinois at Chicago.
[08:39] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF, Ca. @TechSoup, @alebez
[08:39] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City University of New York
[08:39] Namaara MacMoragh: Gloria Kraegel, nonprofit development on behalf of BEST and Etopia EcoCommunities, … Tacoma WA @go4victory
[08:39] Amy Waverider: Amy Waverider virtual ability
[08:39] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Online Community Manager for NPC/Techsoup, Boston, MA, @NPSL @RhiannonSL
[08:40] Magic Pathfinder: Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid), Faculty at New Citizens Inc (NCI), Teaching hands-on Artificial Intelligence and Pathfinding in Second Life – More Info: AND I JUST RELEASED A FREE COOKBOOK! Eeeeep!
[08:40] Tank Thibedeau: Ricky Davis if you have me on twitter as @dyverse_steele delete that account it has been hacked
[08:40] Tank Thibedeau: new twitter coming soon
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: aww, Good to know Tank.
[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: anyone else with introductions?
[08:41] Tank Thibedeau: San Antonio TX
[08:41] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, Arizona, Mexico, On the Road. @ozma
[08:41] Pathfinder Lester: John Lester, Chief Learning Officer, ReactionGrid. Living in Montreal, Canada. @Pathfinder
[08:42] Buffy Beale: yay Path!
[08:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Great to see you all!
[08:42] Zotarah Shepherd: Hi Path
[08:42] Kate Miranda: Linda Rogers, Toronto Ontario, Creative Works Studio, a program of St. Michael’s Hospital’s Inner City Health programs …. and Music Island here in SL 🙂
[08:42] Tori Landau: Patricia Dean,volunteer event coordinator for the Open University’s Deep Think sim.
[08:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets move to TechSoup Announcements…and if you havent introduced yourself, feel free to sneak that in during
[08:43] Kate Miranda: for Music Island
[08:43] bulaklak: Hiya! I am Michael and I am the online community manager at TechSoup
[08:43] Grace McDunnough: Rhonda Lowry, Media and Technology Strategist for Turner Broadcasting @gracemcdunnough
[08:43] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak!
[08:44] bulaklak: thanks, Buffy
[08:44] ThinkererSelby Evans: Thinkerer Melville
[08:44] bulaklak: So just a quick question first before I get to the big announcement
[08:45] bulaklak: And this is probably a no brainer for this crowd . . .
[08:45] bulaklak: But how many of you have moved a significant amount of your org’s work into the cloud?
[08:45] Buffy Beale: Thinker! Great to see you
[08:45] ThinkererSelby Evans: Hi Buffy
[08:45] Gentle Heron: None, Bulaklak.
[08:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes to the cloud!
[08:46] Coughran Mayo: 20%
[08:46] ThinkererSelby Evans: My blog work is all in the cloud
[08:46] Buffy Beale: about 10 % and growing
[08:46] bulaklak: Great! Anyone else?
[08:46] Magic Pathfinder: <— uses cloud storage for file sharing… e.g. my cookbook
[08:46] ThinkererSelby Evans: In the blog site or in Google drive
[08:46] Pathfinder Lester: most of ReactionGrid’s “stuff” lives in the cloud. all documents and project management data are hosted in the cloud.
[08:46] Tori Landau: Nothing I do with the OU is in the cloud but started using it for first time this week to do with something else
[08:46] Oronoque Westland: never knew what the difference was between the cloud and a host’s server
[08:47] Tank Thibedeau: I have some of my itunes music in the cloud
[08:47] ThinkererSelby Evans: I view the hosts server as part of thecloud
[08:47] Zotarah Shepherd: I have not used the cloud at all.
[08:47] Pixel GhostPixel Ghost is a Registered Nurse who had an interview Wednesday for her first nursing job (hope I get hired) and is continuing her education with online classes through a state accredited university
[08:47] bulaklak: So . . . the reason I ask is that TechSoup mounted a massive survey last year, reaching out in 22 languages to 88 countries
[08:47] bulaklak: We got more than 10.5k responses
[08:48] Zotarah Shepherd: Best of luck Pixel
[08:48] Jerod Bagley: My own unit uses the cloud for a lot of shared resources. But institution wise use is small.
[08:48] bulaklak: And our wonderful tech analyst Ariel Gilbert Knight worked diligently on creating a report to analyze the results
[08:48] bulaklak: We just released the results and analysis yesterday
[08:48] bulaklak: With the executive summary in 22 languages
[08:49] bulaklak: There’s some interesting stuff in here about how NGOs are using (or not) the cloud and what their perceptions of the technology are
[08:49] bulaklak: Here is the link
[08:49] bulaklak:
[08:49] bulaklak: I hope you will share this far and wide and enjoy reading it over
[08:49] bulaklak: And perhaps at a future time we could have Ariel join us to talk about it
[08:49] Gentle Heron: What’s the Readers Digest version of the findings?
[08:49] Gentle Heron: Do we or don’t we?
[08:49] bulaklak: Gentle, the link will take you to a blog written by our marketing copywriter
[08:50] bulaklak: That sums things up nicely
[08:50] bulaklak: And if you want to do the deeper dive, you can download the report from there
[08:50] Gentle Heron: You don’t want to put anything in the record here, now?
[08:50] bulaklak: Oh sure I can give you some factoids
[08:50] Gentle Heron: Thanks!
[08:50] bulaklak: • 90% of respondents worldwide are using cloud computing
[08:50] bulaklak: • 60% say lack of knowledge is the greatest barrier to adoption
[08:51] bulaklak: • 79% say the greatest advantage of adoption is easier software/hardware administration
[08:51] bulaklak: • 47% say cost-related changes and ease of setup would be the greatest motivators for moving their IT to the cloud
[08:51] bulaklak: • 53% report plans to move a “significant portion” of their IT to the cloud within three years
[08:51] bulaklak: So those are some of the high level findings
[08:51] bulaklak: And many more here
[08:51] Gentle Heron: Thank you.
[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks Bulaklak 🙂
[08:52] bulaklak: And that’s all I’ve got for today!
[08:52] Jerod Bagley: Yes, thanks for the summary
[08:52] Buffy Beale: thank you bulaklak
[08:52] bulaklak: Have a great meeting and a great weekend!
[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Great – lets move on to Mentors Central
[08:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Brena Benoir to speak, let’s welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.!
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Brena!
[08:53] Buffy Beale: yayyy Brena!!
[08:53] HB Eternal: BB Rocks!
[08:53] Gentle Heron: Go Brena!
[08:53] Brena Benoir: Good morning everyone
[08:53] Brena Benoir: As you can see from the poster this morning our topic is SMART Goals
[08:54] Brena Benoir: we have focused on the community concept lately and I thought this woudl help orgs look at why they are here and what their goals are and help examine those closer
[08:54] Brena Benoir: This morning we will be taking a look at the SMART goal concept. The hopes is that this will allow us
to set goals for our work within in our organizations. We all have different goals when we start work
in virtual worlds. Anywhere we go, sometimes we are able to achieve goals, sometimes we are not. 
When we don’t feelings build and disappointment sets in and leads to a sense of failure and desire to give up.
[08:55] Brena Benoir: Understanding the SMART Goal concept will allow us to set better goals and focus on what we are really
setting out to achieve, experience the feeling of successes, and continue our growth.
[08:55] Brena Benoir: S=SPECIFIC 
This aspect tackles the who, what when, where, whys. It’s focuses on the details. 
For example: I want to lose weight. This is not specific for some of these reasonsS=SPECIFIC 
This aspect tackles the who, what when, where, whys. It’s focuses on the details. 
For example: I want to lose weight. This is not specific for some of these reasons
[08:56] Brena Benoir: What are some reasons why this doesn’t meet the specific criteria?
[08:56] Gentle Heron: doesn’t set a numeric goal
[08:56] Brena Benoir: right
[08:56] Tank Thibedeau: no time frame
[08:56] Brena Benoir: correct
[08:56] Brena Benoir: what does healthy mean?
[08:56] Brena Benoir: What might be a way to restate this in to something specific?
[08:57] bulaklak: I want to lose 60 lbs by Christmas
[08:57] Brena Benoir: good job bulaklak!
[08:57] Coughran Mayo: bukalak: see me!
[08:57] bulaklak: (that’s my fantasy)
[08:57] Brena Benoir: moving along to the second part
[08:57] Brena Benoir: M=MEASURABLE
Establishing the guidelines about how to assess overall progress on the goal. 
Examples of measures could be: 
I will lost 10 pounds within the next 3 months.
I will hold an event in my office one time each month to support the goal of fundraising for my org in 
the virtual setting. 
My organization will sponsor an event 4 times a year in my NPC space to educate about addiction
and mental health issues.
[08:58] Brena Benoir: This give us something measure or quantify in some way our goal by
[08:59] Brena Benoir: A=ATTAINABLE
This step encourages us to look at the details of how we go about accomplishing our goals. What supplies,
resources, education, etc. will we need in order to accomplish our overall goal. Working on this step
allows us to formulate the substeps to help work to achieve the small successes to work towards
our overall goal.
[08:59] Brena Benoir: We want to make sure they are achievable from the start of settign them
[08:59] Brena Benoir: R=Realistic
This step addresses a major component we address in the substance abuse field, that is willingness. 
We look at our willingness to accomplish the goal and our ability to do so. If we set goals that we 
know that we cannot accomplish, we set ourselves up for failure from the start.
[09:00] Gentle Heron: That helps with motivation, right?
[09:00] Brena Benoir: That is correct
[09:00] Brena Benoir: if we feel they are out of reach from the start, we already feel at a disadvantage
[09:00] Brena Benoir: Many children say I want to become a professional athlete someday. If they aren’t working on their athletic
abilities growing up that isn’t a possibility at all. The reality is that is a small portion of 
them will actually achieve that goal and many of these have honed and worked on their skills for years.
[09:01] Brena Benoir: If your org has a fundraising goal in world, ask yourself what is a realistic amount to target in virtual worlds.
[09:01] Brena Benoir: our last component is Timely
[09:01] Brena Benoir: T=TIMELY
This is where we establish a set time frame in order to accomplish our goal. 
Example: My organization is new to NPC, I want others to learn about my organization and what we do.
[09:01] Brena Benoir: I will sponsor an event in my NPC space within one month of being granted tenant space in NPC where I will 
educate attendees about my organization and mission statement. 
I will meet 3 new members of organizations each month to improve my network in NPC.
[09:02] Brena Benoir: The SMART goal concept is acceptable for use across the spectrum from personal use to nonprofit 
sector use to corporate use and anywhere in between.
[09:02] Brena Benoir: I strongly encourage you to look your involvement 
in this community and virtual worlds in particular and do some self questioning to see if your 
organization’s goals are consistent with your mission statement and your purpose in 
being here in a virtual capacity.
[09:03] Brena Benoir: here are a couple of sources you can explore should you want further information:
[09:03] Brena Benoir: Any questions?
[09:03] Gentle Heron: Very smartly done, Brena.
[09:03] Buffy Beale: that was great Brena thanks!
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: This is awesome!
[09:04] Buffy Beale: lol Gentle
[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Brena – Thanks for leading Mentors Central today!
[09:04] Oura Scribe: applauds
[09:04] Brena Benoir: Thank you Gentle 🙂
[09:04] Gentle HeronGentle Heron hopes we can continue with these types of sessions!
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much!
[09:04] Tori Landau: Many thanks Brena and very useful
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Here, here, Gentle!
[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Catch up with Brena and ask questions after too 🙂
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Brena!
[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: OK – time for today’s main speaker.
[09:04] Pathfinder Lester: good advice all around
[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome Brian Kaihoi (Svea Morane in SL), who will report on Mayo Clinic’s virtual world activities in the areas of patient care, research, education and administrative services.
[09:04] Buffy Beale: a reminder that the mentors meet after this meeting so if anyone has any questions or needs help please do join in
[09:05] Buffy Beale: cheering for Svea!
[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: come up and grab a seat Svea 🙂
[09:05] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Svea!
[09:05] Svea Morane: Hi there. It is very good to be with you to share what Mayo Clinic is doing in Second Life. The fact that we are having this meeting is one reason we are excited about Second Life. The community and the relationships that are developed here are examples of the interactions that make for better healthcare.
[09:05] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Svea!
[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a bit about our speaker…
Brian Kaihoi has been with Mayo Clinic for 35 years. During that time he has held a variety of administrative and operational positions. As a member of the consulting staff of Mayo Clinic, Brian has worked with the Mayo Medical School and Mayo School of Continuing Medical Education on content development and delivery strategies. Currently, Brian is the Mayo Foundation Web Administrator, working with all Mayo Clinic Web activities, and works with the Center for Innovation, which is finding ways to transform the way health care is experienced and delivered.
[09:05] Svea Morane: I coordinate our Second Life activities, as part of my role as the Web administrator at Mayo Clinic. I have been with Mayo Clinic for 39 years serving in a variety of roles around education, technology and business.
[09:05] Svea Morane: I want to give you a little background on Mayo Clinic as an organization, then talk about our Second Life activities and how they fit into our larger organization. The copy from the slides will appear in local, so I will not repeat that, but rather comment on the slides.
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[09:06] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation: 
Slide 1
Mayo Clinic in Virtual Worlds
Innovation in Care and Operations
Nonprofit Commons
September 14, 2012
[09:06] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation: 
Slide 2
Photo of landing point at Mayo Clinic region
[09:06] Svea Morane: You can get to our public region by searching for “Mayo Clinic”. These photos are from our landing point, which has a representation of the main patient care building on our Rochester, MN campus.
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Additional photo of landing point at Mayo Clinic region
[09:06] Svea Morane: You can learn more about Mayo Clinic at
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Mayo Clinic
– 58,300 staff incl 7,400 physicians working on 3 major campuses (MN, FL, AZ)
– Mission: To inspire hope and contribute to health and well-being by providing the best care to every patient through integrated clinical practice, education and research.
[09:07] Svea Morane: Mayo Clinic is the largest private medical group practice in the world. It is nonprofit, with no profit sharing, or bonuses. All the physicians are on salary.
[09:07] Pixel Ghost: yayyyyyyy!!!
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Mayo Clinic in 2011 (the numbers)
– 1,113,000 patients with 123,000 hospital admissions and 588,000 hospital days
– 8,117 active human research studies, and 5,0430 journal articles published
– 3,523 students in Mayo Clinic graduate and undergraduate programs, 124,068 participants in continuing medical education programs
– $8.5B revenue, nonprofit, excess revenue funds research and education
[09:07] Svea Morane: We certainly see a lot of patients from all over the world on our campuses, but we are also a large educational institution, including the largest graduate medical training program in the world. There are over 350 classes per day on our campuses.
[09:08] Pixel Ghost: Amazing to learn this!
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Mayo Clinic Innovations
– Mayo Clinic has a long history of innovation, medical and non-medical
– First medical group practice
– First round intensive care unit
– Cortisone ñ gave away and did not patent
– Open-heart surgery with heart bypass machine
– Developed “G-suit” for pilots
[09:08] Svea Morane: Innovation is a core principle at Mayo Clinic, in the science of healthcare, the delivery of treatment, and improving health and wellbeing. The fact that innovation is so central to our culture has made it easier to bring virtual worlds to our organization.
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Mayo Clinic is Not Afraid of Digital
– 25,000,000 visitors a month at our various Web sites
– 100,000+ devices on our network
– Portal services for patients, interactive phone and mobile applications, very active with social media
– Online course registration and staff services
– But, as a Fortune 100 business, we are conservative
[09:08] Pooky Amsterdam: that is great
[09:08] Svea Morane: Mayo Clinic has been active digitally for a long time. Our health information Web site has been a top rated site for many years.
[09:09] Pixel Ghost: I used it for research in school!
[09:09] Svea Morane: and you got good grades right? 🙂
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Mayo Clinic Space in Second Life
– Individuals have been in SL for years
– May 2009 ñ rented º region for demonstration project
– October 2009 ñ purchased first region
– March 2010 ñ purchased second region and built conference center
– October 2010 ñ third region
– August 2012 ñ fourth region ordered
[09:09] Pixel Ghost: Yes… overall 3.72
[09:09] Svea Morane: While individual Mayo Clinic staff have been personally involved in Second Life and other grids several years, our official involvement, where we started to spend money, was in May 2009. We started with a couple people who had passion for it and promoted the idea internally. As the project has gained momentum, our presence has grown.
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Mayo Clinic Model
– “3 Shield Model”
– Clinical Care, Research, Education all supported by Administration
– Encouraging the adoption of Virtual Worlds requires engagement with all parts of the organization
– The biggest challenges are “cultural” not even “technical”
[09:10] Svea Morane: Internally, bringing Second Life to Mayo Clinic has been the result of lots of meetings, demonstrations, talking with colleagues, and picking good projects in visible areas. We have worked on projects in all parts of the organization.
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Mayo Clinic Work in Second Life
– February 2010 – First medical presentation hosted at Virtual Ability
– November 2010 – First CME program given with credits
– December 2010 – First scale model of physical space to aid construction
– July 2011 ñ First patient care activity
– August 2011 ñ First clinical trial recruitment
[09:10] Svea Morane: Our initial work in Second Life has focused on experiments that support our core services in clinical care, education, research and administrative activities.
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Education – well defined for us
– Public Education and CME
 — Avatar to avatar, avatar to face-to-face, streaming
 — Outreach presentations for public and professionals (cardiology, GI cancer, radiology, Dalai Lama) 37+
 — School of Professional Development (continuing medical education) 140 +
 — Transform Symposium (streaming video) 2
[09:11] Svea Morane: Using SL for education has been an easy step for our folks to make, and has been working very well. Many groups in SL do this already. We have sessions that are private, public and some that require registration fees. The slide references the number of presentations we have done of each type.
[09:12] Pixel Ghost: awww the Dalai Lama 🙂
[09:12] Svea Morane: The Dahlai Lama presentation filled up our region in about 4 minutes 🙂
[09:12] Pixel Ghost: I saw him when he visited my state and he’s wonderful!
[09:12] Gentle Heron: and people complained they could not get in!
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Slide 12
Photo of Mayo Clinic Second Life Conference Center
[09:12] Svea Morane: We built a conference center on our space, that was a good result of getting our own staff to think broadly about what a conference center needs, and not trying to replicate our physical spaces.
[09:13] Coughran Mayo: The Dalai Lama never complains
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Photo of Session in Conference Center
[09:13] Svea Morane: Presentations from our physicians are popular, and exciting for our staff to present. We have good success in having our physicians interact with colleagues in other countries without having to allow for all the travel time.
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Education – many partners
– Collaborations with other healthcare and education groups
– School of nursing doing clinical practice in our spaces
– Multiple campuses of medical schools collaborating
[09:13] Svea Morane: Since education is done so broadly in Second Life, we have found many helpful partnerships
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Administrative – defined
– Collaborative Mayo work groups across campuses
– Collaboration with non-Mayo groups
– Professional association meetings
– Prototyping physical space: scale models, design ideas, traffic flow
– Disaster preparedness simulation
[09:14] Svea Morane: Administrative functions are becoming more numerous in SL now too. Getting groups from different locations together to work together is a plus, as well as using SL to prototype new physical spaces.
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Photo of Office Space Modeling
[09:15] Svea Morane: Building a prototype allows for groups to experience the space in real time before it is physically created, and then make adjustments to the design before you require expensive change orders.
[09:15] Pooky Amsterdam: SL is amazingfor prototyping
[09:15] Jerry Buchko: Yes.
[09:15] Buffy Beale: it sure is and hii Pooky
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Clinical Practice – being defined
– Most difficult to implement because  of integration with highly regulated existing RL activities
– Support groups
– Procedure simulation
– Therapy
– Personalized patient education
[09:15] Svea Morane: We are currently running experiments using SL for real patient care, but these are not in routine practice yet. This is the area of activity that has the greatest potential for Mayo Clinic, and where we will be pushing the hardest.
[09:16] Gentle Heron: also the most innovative!
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Research – getting started
– In the USA, 70% of clinical trials do not get enough participants and so are not completed
– Recruiting for trials has been successful, and very low cost
– Many groups do research in SL, but not traditional medical research
[09:16] Svea Morane: Medical research is another area where we have had good success, in recruiting patients for clinical trials on our physical campuses.
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Projects Being Developed
– Virtual World International Hospice Ò education about hospice as well as therapeutic interactions
– Wellness activities, including “prepare a meal together and eat together”
– Multi-campus medical school student services
– Cognitive impairment therapy for traumatic brain injury
[09:17] Svea Morane: The appetite for additional work in virtual worlds is great 🙂 with no lack of project ideas.
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Necessary Success Factors
– Persistence: always ready to do a demo and help someone be a star
– Work through existing relationships
– Help others get done what they want done, not help you do what you want
– Give lots of your own personal time
– Think like an “intrepreneur
[09:18] Svea Morane: The success we have had in using Second Life to help our patients and support our organization’s goals is directly related to the relationships we have established in our physical world, and in this virtual world. It cannot be over-stressed how important it has been to collaborate and help others see the vision.
[09:19] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation whispers: Slide 21 of 23
[09:19] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation: 
Slide 21
Barriers to Use
– Technical Ò something simple like a different slide viewer to accommodate 100 slides in 20 minutes
– The ÏflakinessÓ of Second Life requires backup systems
– IT security thinking SL is a game to be blocked
– Traditionalists thinking face-to-face is real and SL is not real
[09:19] Svea Morane: There are certainly barriers to success, that we all run in to, and many have found solutions for. Again, talking with others and working things through is the key to getting the results we want.
[09:20] Svea Morane: I think we need to find a way to quarantine all the traditionalists 😉
[09:20] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation whispers: Slide 22 of 23
[09:20] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation: 
Slide 22
Keys to Success
– Be a real resident: work, play, do, interact
– Have a story to tell Ò Why this matters to you
– Never be defensive, always supportive
– Be persistent and cheerful
– Help others be successful, then sell their success
– Collaborate – You are not alone
[09:20] Oura Scribe: lol
[09:20] Gentle Heron: HA a reservation for them!
[09:20] Pixel Ghost: stifles a giggle
[09:21] Svea Morane: The last point to make about our work in SL is the tremendous benefit of collaboration, and the willingness we have here to do that. There are great people with fabulous skills and a willingness to share for the greater good. We deeply indebted to folks like Gentle Heron at Virtual Ability, Dave Taylor at the Imperial College, Panacea Luminos from New York Healthscape, Coughran Mayo with Preferred Family Health, and organizations that have have shown us ways to work, like New Citizens Incorporated and Builders Brewrey. We have also been very fortunate to connect with a talented builder named Oura Scribe.
[09:21] Tori Landau: Agrees with Svea
[09:21] Pooky Amsterdam: wyayay
[09:21] Magic Pathfinder: Hurray for NCI! I teach there! Eeeep!
[09:21] Gentle Heron: Fantastic list of “key to success”…. these are ALL so important.
[09:22] Mayo Clinic NPC presentation whispers: Slide 23 of 23
[09:22] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, love your points of keys to success
[09:22] Svea Morane: We are very excited to be part of the Second Life community, and to live and work in this space. It is a real pleasure.
[09:22] Pooky Amsterdam: and in beating cancer a comunity support can be all the difference
[09:22] Magic Pathfinder: Can you take questions?
[09:22] Oura Scribe: applauds
[09:22] Svea Morane: While i see 25,000,000 people a month on our Web sites….
[09:22] Zinnia Zauber: Yay! Thank you Svea!
[09:22] Svea Morane: the interactions in SL are much deeper..
[09:22] Svea Morane: and long term.
[09:23] Svea Morane: it is that contact with patients and providers..
[09:23] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I agree 🙂
[09:23] Svea Morane: that makes a difference
[09:23] Gentle Heron: That’s a huge difference, and difficult to measure and document.
[09:23] Conover’s Flight-Helper 6.3.3 (WEAR ME!): Flight-helper is ready and operational.
[09:23] Svea Morane: Questions?
[09:23] Gentle Heron: Svea, congrats on all you do in SL. You said many important things today. Can you elaborate on this one please?
“The fact that innovation is so central to our culture has made it easier to bring virtual worlds to our organization.”
[09:24] Svea Morane: yes….
[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: Applauds Applauds!
[09:24] Svea Morane: at least here at Mayo..i will get some snickers about “virtual worlds”….
[09:24] Svea Morane: but no outright rejection.
[09:24] Svea Morane: we have had a lot of crazy ideas..
[09:24] Svea Morane: that worked over time.
[09:25] Svea Morane: so you get a little latitude in talking with folks
[09:25] Magic Pathfinder: Has Electronic Health Record data been used in SL? How?
[09:25] Jerry Buchko: Svea, You
[09:25] Svea Morane: other organizations may not have that advantage
[09:25] Svea Morane: Magic.. not in SL.. but opensim behind our firewall.
[09:25] Svea Morane: there are data privacy issues we have to deal with
[09:25] Jerry Buchko: Svea, You’ve accomplished a great deal. Who sets these projects in motion? Or do they just emerge organically on their own? ;D
[09:26] Svea Morane: Panacea Luminos has more informaiton on how they have done that on a personal basis at NY Healthscape
[09:26] Svea Morane: Jerry…
[09:26] Svea Morane: I do a lot of selling 🙂
[09:26] Gentle Heron: Panacea would be the one to ask about EHR.
[09:26] Svea Morane: finding the right people on a team.. getting funding.. engagement
[09:26] Jerod Bagley: Svea, You talked about success with recruitment for clinical trials using SL. Can you elaborate on how that works?
[09:27] Svea Morane: Yes… from sign boards to group notices… recruiting involves getting information to people…
[09:27] Pathfinder Lester: Svea, have you tried getting grant funding for any of this work through organizations like NIH or NLM?
[09:27] Svea Morane: then signing “consent” forms
[09:28] Svea Morane: Yes Path… I have some NIH funding now.. and the “cognitive impairment” treatment will be another big grant
[09:28] Gentle Heron: Svea, you also said “It cannot be over-stressed how important it has been to collaborate and help others see the vision.” How do you see the vision of those you collaborate with, and how do you integrate their vision with Mayo’s vision?
[09:28] Pathfinder Lester: Svea, congrats! nice work. 🙂
[09:28] Svea Morane: Thanks Path…
[09:28] Svea Morane: Gentle.. i think i talk about SL in almost every meeting…
[09:28] Svea Morane: when folks talk about weather..
[09:28] Svea Morane: I say it is nice on Mayo’s beach in SL
[09:29] Svea Morane: talk about social events..
[09:29] Svea Morane: music..
[09:29] Gentle HeronGentle Heron chuckles.
[09:29] Svea Morane: art..
[09:29] Pooky Amsterdam: Q: Are people increasingly receptive when they see the results are they surprised?
[09:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 🙂
[09:29] Gentle Heron: It’s like you LIVE here, Svea, isn’t it?
[09:29] Svea Morane: anything to help people see this is “real life”…
[09:29] Svea Morane: just without the geography
[09:29] Dancers Yao: do you treat patients without medical insurance at the Mayo Clinic?
[09:29] Svea Morane: stories.. lots of stories..
[09:29] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir agrees…this is all ‘real’
[09:29] Svea Morane: i have patient stories of people helped by Mayo herelll
[09:29] Svea Morane: and that is wonderful
[09:30] Svea Morane: Yes Danders.. we do treat… there are funds to help.. we have a large social work department…
[09:30] Svea Morane: and we translate to 80 spoken languages in our language department
[09:31] Svea Morane: Yes. Gentle this is home 🙂
[09:31] Svea Morane: Pooky. .yes people are more and more receptive..
[09:31] Svea Morane: i work to get reports in teh weekly newsletter..
[09:31] Amy Waverider: Is that only for residents in florida and the other state where the hospitals are or do you offer social work to other states?
[09:31] Svea Morane: strategically have lunch with decision makers and influencers
[09:32] Pooky Amsterdam: tht is great -the stories yes it is just stunning how much this helps
[09:32] Svea Morane: Social services are available to all patients.. services vary by state and what is available..
[09:32] Svea Morane: Medicaide for instance is a state program.. medicare is federal
[09:33] Oura Scribe: The Mayo Clinic is in Florida, Minnesota and Arizona 🙂
[09:33] Svea Morane: and SL Oura….. i talk about SL as our 4th campus
[09:33] Amy Waverider: ok ty
[09:33] Dancers Yao: we need one in California!
[09:33] Oura Scribe: lol, yes Svea… SL too
[09:34] Svea Morane: California.. isn’t that where the crazy dancers are 🙂
[09:34] Jerod Bagley: You are right Pooky. Having a highly regarded institution like the Mayo Clinic with success stories to share gives a big boost to all of our efforts. Thanks Svea for sharing.
[09:34] Dancers Yao: yes!
[09:34] Svea Morane: i need to say thank you… because we would not be doing as well as we are…
[09:34] Svea Morane: without groups and people like you
[09:34] Svea Morane: This is community
[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: your welcome Svea
[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets thank Svea for speaking to us today!
[09:35] Svea Morane: My pleasure
[09:35] Pathfinder Lester: thanks Svea. nicely done.
[09:35] Oura Scribe: Thank you. Great presentation
[09:35] Jerod Bagley: applause!!!
[09:35] Gentle Heron: Fantastic presentation Svea. Will you put it on SlideShare please?
[09:35] Tank Thibedeau: appluase
[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!
[09:35] Jerry BuchkoJerry Buchko applauds.
[09:35] Zotarah ShepherdZotarah Shepherd applaudes
[09:35] Namaara MacMoragh: Thank you Svea. Great presentation!
[09:35] Atalanta Visage: Thank you.
[09:35] Dancers Yao: Thank you
[09:35] Chayenn: great presentation
[09:35] Pooky Amsterdam whispers: APPLAUDS
[09:35] Pooky Amsterdam: APPLAUDS
[09:35] Pooky Amsterdam: Applauds
[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great presentation – let’s move on to Open Mic & any Announcements
[09:35] Grace McDunnough: Thank you
[09:36] Magic Pathfinder: I have an announcement…
[09:36] Pooky Amsterdam: yes thank you Svea!
[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Does anyone have any announcements… I know Zinnia does
[09:36] Tank Thibedeau: raised hand
[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂
[09:36] Gentle HeronGentle Heron does, for another organization, actually.
[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Magic why don’t you start, then Zinnia, then Tank
[09:36] Magic Pathfinder: okay thx
[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and then Gentle 🙂
[09:36] Magic Pathfinder: I just published the 1st Virtual World Cookbook! heh
[09:37] Magic Pathfinder: and I’m launching it on Monday!
[09:37] Magic Pathfinder: Monday Sept 17th. 3:15pm SLT Launch Party for Always Have Fun PARTY COOKBOOK
Teleport to Four Bridges Project (39,251,25) Live Music! Belly Dancing! Surfing! Free Book Download!
[09:37] Magic Pathfinder: Everyone is welcome.. I’ll talk abou the cook book
[09:37] Magic Pathfinder: and what I learn at Occupy Wall St this weekend. Thank You!
[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great… Zinnia
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Nonprofit Commons 5th Anniversary Celebration
September 21 @ Nonprofit Commons Plush & Aloft
Events throughout the day and festive formal dress encouraged!
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: * 8:30-10:00 AM SLT Morning Nonproft Commons (NPC) Meeting with gifts and guest speakers @ NPC Ampitheater on Plush
Discover the history of the NPC and learn from the leaders of virtual world use for common good.
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: * 3:30 PM SLT DJ DyVerse Dance Meet & Greet @ CommonGround Aloft
Enjoy the best DJ in Second Life while meeting your fellow advocates, educators, and artists who make virtual worlds the place to be!
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: * 8:30-10:30 PM SLT Active Collaborative Community Planning Workshop @ NPC Ampitheater on Plush
Build CommUNITY! Participate with us in creating a vision of a supportive future in virtual worlds by creating partnerships, collaboration, and gridwide community.
[09:38] Pooky Amsterdam: I think Imight have an outfit for that
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: * 3:30 AM SLT Live Music Meet & Greet @ CommonGround Aloft
[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Please Come Join the Nonprofit All Stars!
[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great!
[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: I will be dropping you all a notecard about this wonderful event for next week!
[09:39] HB Eternal: Friday the 21st rather than our usual Thrusday?
[09:39] HB Eternal: Thursday
[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so next week’s meeting will be quite a celebration! – thanks Zinnia 🙂
[09:39] Ozma Malibu: Sign up to help out!
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Good question HB.
[09:40] Pooky Amsterdam: WooT
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: We might forgo normal CommonGround this month for this big party instead.
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: How do you guys feel about that?
[09:40] HB Eternal: sounds great to me!
[09:40] Pooky Amsterdam: Dusts off Party hat
[09:40] Magic Pathfinder: Zinnia… is the 8:30pm meeting affiliated with the Virtual Vision 2020 group that briefed here?
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: yes, we hope to have that part of it.
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: That was what inspired the idea actually.
[09:41] Magic Pathfinder: okay.. .I’m an officer .. I can send an Group Notice there
[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: And, we want everyone to invite folks from other community to join us.
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: That would be wonderful!
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: The workshop is for everyone!!!
[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so next Friday, 4 celebration event times throughout the day/night, starting with our weekly meeting 🙂
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, it will be super day and so happy to have everyone join us!
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: yes
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: action packed!
[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great
[09:43] Pooky Amsterdam: Will invite as well
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all! That will be perfect!
[09:43] HB Eternal: the 21st is also the UN Peace Day
[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: all set Zinnia? Tank your up next!
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: cool
[09:43] Tank Thibedeau: everyday at noon and 10 pm central time on my radio station I will have natural sounds such as rain etc for those that mediate and just a way to clear the mind during the day and still looking for nonprofit psa’s to play on the station and if you have any ideas for the station let me know thank you thats all
[09:44] Pooky Amsterdam: Lovely
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Tank!
[09:44] Chayenn: cool
[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nice idea… you should reach out to communities like Elf Circle who have regular meditation events … maybe they can play your stream 🙂
[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Tank!
[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Gentle 🙂
[09:45] Xon Emoto: I have to go, thank you Svea, thank you all. It’s been very interesting, once again:) Best wishes from Hamburg!
[09:45] Gentle Heron: I have announcements for 2 other groups, actually.
[09:45] Gentle Heron: The Counselor Education in Second Life (CESL) group is holding their annual professional conference, wrapping up today. The remaining sessions include:
10 am SLT
Human Sexuality – Chad Royal & Heloisa Portela, PhD
11 am SLT
Leadership groups as a culturally sensitive method with Latino and Black youth: A strength-based approach to reduce aggression – Isaac Burt & Tiphanie Gonzalez
[09:45] Gentle Heron: noon SLT
Implementing the ALGBTIC Competencies into Practice – Maiko Xiong, Sarah Downes & Pete Finnerty
1 pm SLT
Counseling Christian Fundamentalists and Ex-Fundamentalists – Oscar Miles
[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Xon for coming 🙂
[09:45] Gentle Heron: A Preview of the New CARE-ER Paradigm for Second Life Career Development Theory & Practice – Edward Colozzi
This is a highly professional conference, and I recommend the sessions which are enlightening. If you are a professional counselor, you can get free CEUs for licensure.
[09:46] Gentle Heron: Pop by today and check it out:
Tranquil (180,157,29)
[09:46] Gentle Heron: I also have a notecard of the International Peace Weekend & Spirit Fair 2012
[09:46] Gentle Heron: Sept 21-23
[09:46] Gentle Heron: If anyone want that…. it’s HUGELY collaborative
[09:46] Pooky Amsterdam: woah thoise looks great
[09:46] Gentle Heron: a number of communities are presenting
[09:46] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir would love one
[09:46] Gentle Heron: and lots of great activities, plus music
[09:47] Tank Thibedeau: can i get the peace weekend conference notecard please
[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great
[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements for today?
[09:47] Ozma Malibu: I’d like the notecard yes
[09:48] Pathfinder Lester: I have a two-sentence announcement. 😉 We just went live with a brand new website *today.* So if you’re 
curious about what ReactionGrid’s doing these days and want more info about our Jibe platform based on Unity3d, please check out
[09:48] Magic Pathfinder: I am interested in Peace Weekend too
[09:48] Tori Landau: I have one if I may °͜°
[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great Pathfinder!
[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and Tori ..
[09:48] Pooky Amsterdam: yes want to go as well – as long as I can have a redheaded avatar imthere
[09:48] Pathfinder Lester: (borked the link before)
[09:48] Tori Landau: As of today I’m the new owner, courtesy of a benefactor, of the International Schools Island
[09:49] Pooky Amsterdam: Congratoes!
[09:49] Gentle Heron: oh congrats Tori!!!
[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes congrats 🙂
[09:49] Gentle Heron: I’m glad you are doing this.
[09:49] Tori Landau: the region has been renamed Moonstone, but it’s just to say that nothing is changing in a hurry
[09:49] Pathfinder Lester: cool beans Tori 🙂
[09:49] Gentle Heron: Hey Path that’s MY line!
[09:49] Tori Landau: i hope to keep all the resources Shambles had for people to use
[09:49] Pathfinder Lester: Gentle lol 😉
[09:49] Gentle Heron: SO glad to hear that, Tori!
[09:50] Pathfinder Lester: congrats Tori. very cool
[09:50] Tori Landau: transfer happened faster than I thought it would lol
[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: I have another announcement. sorry, I forgot
[09:50] Tori Landau: map may not work for a day or two but lms should to still get there
[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Tori! Feel free to share any events you might have in the future there
[09:50] Magic Pathfinder: I can send Peace Weekend announcements to several groups… lots of ppls interested
[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Zinnia 🙂
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, this is an event that Pathfinder, Coughran and I are doing…
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber:
[09:51] Gentle Heron: Thanks so much Magic.
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Oct 5 & 6: Online Conference Distributed Teams 2012 Agile Project Management
[09:51] Pathfinder Lester: Zinnia, that reminds me I need to send in my talk info. 😉
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: I’ll share more details soon, but just wanted to get the ball rolling.
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Yay, great!
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: This will be a really cool event held in 4 virtual worlds.
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: I will be discussion creating a professional brand via your avatar.
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:53] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements for today?
[09:53] Gentle Heron: It sounds wonderful.
[09:54] Gentle Heron: Gosh what a busy group we are!
[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: We are!
[09:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: otherwise, close to wrap up time
[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: And, it is great how we all work together too!
[09:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes
[09:54] Oronoque Westland: peaceful new year to one and all
[09:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so with that, let’s close things out for this week – remember next week is our big birthday celebration meeting!
[09:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: So see you then 🙂
[09:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:
Nonprofit Commons Blog:
Google Group:
Google Calendar:
About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[09:55] Namaara MacMoragh: thanks all…
[09:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks everyone and see you next week!
[09:55] Pathfinder Lester: awesome. take care folks. have a great weekent.
[09:55] Svea Morane: Thank you all
[09:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: there will be a NPC Mentors meeting immediately following – thanks 🙂

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of August 17 Nonprofit Commons Meeting – Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life with Pam Broviak

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 17, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
9:55 “Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements


[08:30] Buffy Beale: Good day everyone

[08:30] bulaklak: hi, buffy

[08:30] Buffy Beale: hi bulaklak 🙂

[08:30] Merlin Moonshadow: Hi, Buffy!

[08:30] Tori Landau: Hi Buffy and everyone else and got a mug of water
ty Zinnia °͜°

[08:31] Brennan Blaylock: Hello Buffy!

[08:31] Buffy Beale: Hi hi hi all 🙂

[08:31] Siculus: hi

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: ah good Tori!

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Okay! Let’s get started!
[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Hi there!
[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: I am Zinnia and welcome to the Nonprofit Commons!
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: AGENDA

8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

9:55 “Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam
Broviak / Pam Renoir

9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Here is our Agenda for today!
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: So we start with introductions!

[08:32] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:32] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society,
Wisconsin USA

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Please share your real name, org, location, and
online links, please.

[08:32] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:32] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1,Inc., Baltimore,
MD,,, @PY1US

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: This information will be made public.

[08:33] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:33] Brennan Blaylock: Good Morning! Claudia Richards, AAUW
Washington, DC @AAUW on Twitter

[08:33] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan tenby, Online Community and Social
Media Director, TechSoup and The Nonprofit Commons, San Francisc, CA
USA @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:33] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager Online Community and
Social Media, TechSoup Global, San Francisco, CA, USA, @TechSoup

[08:33] Merlin Moonshadow: Michael Smith, Emory University

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: If you are coming in a little late to our
meetings, please still introduce yourself to us.

[08:33] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:33] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, Arizona, Mexico and
On the Road, @ozma

[08:33] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pam Broviak, Virtual Vision 2020,
Geneva (IL-USA),

[08:33] Svea Morane: Mayo Clinic,

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Encourage folks to do that, please.

[08:34] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Magic Pathfinder
(any1.gynoid), Faculty at New Citizens Inc (NCI), Teaching hands-on
Artificial Intelligence and Pathfinding in Second Life

[08:34] Tori Landau: Patricia Dean, volunteer event coordinator for
the Open University’s Deep Think sims.

[08:34] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup
Global, SF, Ca, @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: We have a great bunch of folks here today!
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Our meetings are always open to the public and
it is a wonderful way to learn and connect with other people who do
good for the common good.
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Did everyone get to introduce themselves?

[08:35] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City
University of New York

[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, Ca.
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Please state your real name, org, location, and
online links including twitter handles if you got them.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Our transcripts will be made public.
[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I don’t know about you guys, but I get lots of
great new people to follow on twitter after the meetings!

[08:37] bulaklak: Absolutely!

[08:37] Coughran Mayo: same here

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I love it!

[08:37] Coughran Mayo says @Coughran, @Innovaision

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: lol
[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Remember, if you are ever late to a meeting,
please introduce yourself in chat.

[08:38] Thynka Little: LuAnn Phillips,USDA Cooperative Extension
Service, Albany NY,,,

[08:38] Buffy Beale: lol C

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: I know I am saying this like 80 million times today.

[08:39] Dave12 Kline: Dave Broviak

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: I just want to encourage folks to be welcome and known.

[08:39] Siculus: rik lee @rik_na1

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Our meetings are also a great time to check out
other people’s profiles and revamp your own.

[08:39] Svea Morane quick cleans up his profile 😉

[08:39] bulaklak: Good reminder, Zinnia. Mine could probably use a sprucing.

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: How many open their profiles right then?
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[08:40] Tori Landau: blushes lol

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[08:40] Merlin Moonshadow checks Zinnia’s profile

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: I am always giving homework! lol

[08:40] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare,
Kirksville, MO www., @brenabenoir @PreferredFamily

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: hehe Do it Merlin!

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[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: great

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: We are starting a breakfast speaker
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[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: so, if you are in the SF Bay Area,
please join us. First one is on Oct 2
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: not sure about whether we will live
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[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Nice!
[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Well, I know that we will all love it if more
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[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: topic is free tech resources and classes
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Mentors Central

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors Central
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Last week we discussed our upcoming NPC Birthday!
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: We have Mentors that are taking names and ideas
for our special event on Sept 21.
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy, Ozma, and Brena are taking names!
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: We also have our meeting after this meeting to
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you been with the Nonprofit Commons
from the start?

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: me
[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: ;-P

[08:53] Buffy Beale: hand up 🙂

[08:53] Oronoque Westland: since the first public meeting

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: wow!

[08:53] Ozma Malibu: yep

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: coughran has been

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Look at that!

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: since stone circle days 🙂

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: I remember reading about you all and had to
wait until I got cable to finally make it here!

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: there are lots from when we were on info isle
[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: many are still here

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: That is really something to celebrate!

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: archives are all on the npsl wiki

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: Rik, Rhiannon from time to time

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Please be sure to connect with the Mentors
about sharing your story during our celebration.

[08:55] Buffy Beale: I remember dancing for joy when I got the second
last office here 🙂

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: lol That is great, Buffy! We all are in this together!

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: Buffy you were right next to the Floaters office

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: How cool!

[08:55] Buffy Beale: yup we were neighbours 🙂

[08:56] Oronoque Westland: I am the permanent fly on the wall

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please join us Sept 21, mark your cal!
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: We will have speakers, music, and of course dancing!

[08:56] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Is there audio?

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: We are in chat, Gridjumper.

“Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: It is time for our speaker today!

[08:57] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): ok just checking wan’t sure if it was me

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir is going to discuss
Virtual Vision 2020, an initiative to develop a plan for the Second
Life community.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Pam is a licensed professional engineer with 30
years of experience in public works, most of which was spent working
in local government.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Since joining Second Life in late 2006, she has
been exploring how to leverage virtual world technology in delivering
engineering and government services.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Recently she has been facilitating plans for
virtual communities by applying planning concepts traditionally used
for physical spaces.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber:
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: I met Pam in DC in May and excited to have her
share with us this plan!
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Please welcome Pam!

[08:58] Gentle Heron applauds for Pam and for community planning.

[08:58] Merlin Moonshadow applauds

[08:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂 Hello everyone and thank you for
having me here today

[08:58] Buffy Beale: yay Pam!

[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Let me first share a general
explanation of what Virtual Vision is all about:
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Virtual Vision 2020 is an attempt to
capture the community’s thoughts, ideas, opinions, and goals for
Second Life.
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Modeled off the community planning
process that takes place in communities all across the world, this
virtual plan can help the Second Life community define itself, set
goals for its future, and offer a roadmap for success.
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Before starting down this road, it’s
important to explore this question: What is a community plan?
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): To paraphrase an ICMA’s publication,
A community plan helps people anticipate and prepare for their
collective future.
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): More specifically it explains why
the plan is needed, identifies community goals and objectives,
compares options and sets priorities, and suggests actions and
solutions and explores how well they might meet expectations of the
[09:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It also identifies who might be best
positioned to carry out those actions or implement those solutions.
And finally it presents a method to measure the success of the plan.
[09:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I was wondering if any of you have
participated in a community plan in your city or county?

[09:02] Gentle Heron has participated in community planning for her SL

[09:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir) whispers: Gentle – what was the
timeline for your plan

[09:02] Ethelred Weatherwax: Yes

[09:02] bulaklak: What is the ICMA?

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ICMA = International City/County
Management Association

[09:03] bulaklak: thanks

[09:03] Dancers Yao: in my RL city…Los Angeles

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Pam, is it okay for people to ask questions
along the way or do you want them at the end?

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): that organization provides guidance
to management of communities

[09:03] Tori Landau: Same as Gentle, was when the OU had a social
island. I was involved with the planning for the community then.

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, please ask as I speak or feel
free to chat while i talk

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: super, thank you!

[09:03] Oronoque Westland: Pam Broviak (pam.renoir) whispers: Gentle –
what was the timeline for your plan

[09:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia – you can change the slide

[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:04] Ozma Malibu: wow Pam this is good timing, I am setting out to
organize my RL community so our SL gallery can manifest in a RL
historic district, first have to complete all the local paperwork as
we have national status now.
[09:05] Ozma Malibu: I am all ears. eyes.

[09:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – that is awesome! I believe
there is benefit to a RL/SL experience in planning
[09:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we have much to learn from each environment
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So one question that might be asked
in here is: But why do we need a plan?
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Again from ICMA, communities are
layers of human interaction and activity.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And these interactions can lead to a
community’s confusion about its identity and purpose when they as a
whole occur with no guidance, purpose, or goal in mind.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): This also leads to a future vision
that is unclear and not defined.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): One consequence is that people
become hesitant about investing time and money in that community.
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Obviously not every action occurring
in a community is done for the purpose of carrying out the plan’s
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): But if no actions take place with a
plan in mind, the community risks adequately providing for its

[09:07] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Looking at the time zones one
possible solution would be to work with colleagues in differnt time
zones to make most use of space – leverage $$
[09:07] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): while some sleep other use the sapce
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): exactly – it is a huge advantage of
the virtual space we can leverage

[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): While much of this happens on a
subtle level, I’ll give one of the more obvious examples of why this
is important.
[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Take Las Vegas – what do we think of
when we hear Las Vegas? That community spent years developing that
[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): What do all of you think of when you
hear Las Vegas?

[09:08] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): gambling

[09:08] Oronoque Westland: losing my money

[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[09:09] Thynka Little: excessive energy use

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): an oasis in the middle of a desert

[09:09] Dancers Yao: Elvis

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: party

[09:09] bulaklak: unreality

[09:09] Ethelred Weatherwax: foreclosed houses

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Maing lemonade out of lemons

[09:09] Zotarah Shepherd: Gambling, entertainment

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: homeless in tunnels

[09:09] bulaklak: and buffets

[09:09] Thynka Little: dry heat

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): fun

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: haha yes buffets

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): sin city

[09:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: Where I buy all my sequins!

[09:10] Siculus: crime

[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, one of the more well-branded
communities years in the making
[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If you manage a large research
facility focusing on the study of corn and soybeans, would the lot
next to the Bellagio be a good investment as a future location for
your business?

[09:10] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): It has an identity for sure

[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Probably not.
[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And if you had any doubts, you could
be sure of this by studying that area’s community plan.
[09:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So while plans can drive investment,
they need to help ensure the most successful investment will take

[09:11] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): They have one of the largest
school districts in the country – Clark County

[09:11] Thynka Little:

[09:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So if you want to open a gambling
place – it’s a great place, but maybe not so much for other types of
[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): They have a huge employment base
because of the strip so many children
[09:12] bulaklak: Fascinating. Never thought of Vegas in terms of
identity management before, but I’ll never look at it without that
lens again.
[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): A community’s identity is critical
for its economic development

[09:12] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Hmmm so is SLs identity a problem for us?

[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, Gridjumper, This will be a
critical component of a plan for Second Life.

[09:13] Buffy Beale: good question Tanya

[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia – you can change the slide
[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): In developing a plan for the Second
Life community, it seems logical to follow the process used in the
physical world.

[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:13] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): SLs identity is tied to LInden and
what they see as their future – do we know what that is?

[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): thanks 🙂
[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Grid – that is the challenge and why
I had hoped they would participate in this effort. But I do not see
that happening

[09:13] Lotta Flux: good point, gridjumper

[09:13] Gentle Heron: We may be seeing hints with the link to Steam.

[09:14] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): They are certainly watching
[09:14] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): if not participating

[09:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It’s been successfully used for a
long time, and there are many examples to follow. However, we need to
adapt it to our virtual environment.
[09:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): These are the categories I’ve set up
so far to try to capture the most important sectors without getting
too detailed.

[09:15] Buffy Beale: One category I would think is Recreation (fun stuff)
[09:15] Buffy Beale: ohh silly me I see it now 🙂 scratch that

[09:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes recreation is a critical
component for our quality of life

[09:16] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Bandwith is a necessity

[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): i would definitely be interested in
feedback on these
[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, i would place bandwidth in the
infrastructure and services category
[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Next slide please 🙂
[09:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And this slide lays out the general
steps we will follow in developing the plan.

[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Right now, we are in the beginning phases.

[09:17] Ozma Malibu: there are 2 kinds of education going on:
SL-related (highly necessary) and educators from outside investigating
how SL can contribute to RL/distance ed
[09:17] Ozma Malibu: the latter are having trouble with financing now

[09:17] Thynka Little: the SL business plan and the community plan
would not be one and the same.

[09:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Ozma – education of us both
for RL and SL and us using education for RL purposes
[09:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thynka – I believe you are correct –
although the plan for the community can address the business side of
it, a more detailed plan would help the business aspect much like a
downtown plan is used as a subplan for RL spaces

[09:19] Oronoque Westland: ? – Pam pls clarify who “we” is

[09:19] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): for the plan? the we would be anyone
on the planning team – it is a volunteer effort open to anyone who
wants to help

[09:20] Merlin Moonshadow: How do you propose to implement the plan?
Test communities that might then become part of an overall community?
Obviously, there won’t be a full implementation without Lindn Lab’s

[09:20] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): so far I have only a few volunteers
– Thynka, Sandy Adam, and Eric Hackathorn

[09:20] Oronoque Westland: thank you

[09:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin – you are correct – the best
implementation would have the support of LL because only they can
accomplish some of the goals. The plan should identify the best group
for implementation of each objective/goal
[09:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Then it would be up to those groups
to accept the responsibility for working towards that goal
[09:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Just like a RL plan that might
identify land owners or organizations, in the end only they can choose
to implement the suggestions
[09:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So far we’ve had two workshops that
Georgianna Blackburn and I hosted at SL9B. And we are planning to host
many more.

[09:23] Merlin Moonshadow: And there’s still value in a voluntary
grass-roots effort to build a community plan.

[09:23] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): I would like to help this
effort. I think about these issues constantly.

[09:23] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, Merlin that is what I finally
realized after watching SL9B

[09:23] Ozma Malibu: do you have RL educators involved, who are trying
to hang on here?

[09:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It would be great to have as many of
you as possible help develop this plan- I really believe it would help
all of us so much as a community

[09:24] Oronoque Westland: I am hanging on by a thread

[09:24] Sarvana Haalan: It has been an uphill effort… with so little
funding 🙁

[09:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – I have talked to some people
in the education community – they are a vital component of this plan.
But I haven’t yet had a chance to present the idea to them

[09:24] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): There is a group of educators
associated with ISTE (SIGVE) they have a small space and there are
higher ed communities here and there

[09:25] Zotarah Shepherd: ISTE used to have 4 sims and weekly speakers
and a inworld TV show

[09:25] Oronoque Westland: @Pam, perhaps you could present this idea
to a VWER round table

[09:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Education is critical for our
success as a community – just as true here as in RL

[09:25] Merlin Moonshadow: VWBPE

[09:26] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): ISTE now has a small space and
monthly speakers

[09:26] Zotarah Shepherd nods

[09:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Oronoque – I would love to do that
and hope that some educators would volunteer to be on our planning
[09:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ISTE would be a great partner i nthis
[09:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So something I’ve been amazed about
and Something I hadn’t initially considered, but quickly realized was
the amazing amount of constructive feedback the Second Life community
provides online.

[09:28] Sarvana Haalan: indeed

[09:28] Ozma Malibu: We are losing our education island end of
December unless we find 2 more ppl/groups willing to share. just btw.

[09:28] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It will be so helpful to capture
that information and use it in the development of the plan. This is
something that does not yet happen in our physical communities, but
hopefully someday will.

[09:28] Merlin Moonshadow: Since SL is a community of communities, how
can we define one single community to base a plan on?

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin – that is a great question i often see

[09:29] Ozma Malibu: a community of interwined communities, really

[09:29] Thynka Little: certainly parts of it are very vocal, and this
initiative would be looking to draw out participation from as broad a
user base as possible

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I guess I have approached it as we
do in our physical communities

[09:29] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): perhaps a database of all the
islands and timeframes of rent running out

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That is true Thynka

[09:29] Sarvana Haalan: Would th eplan help connect the communities
for collaborative activities?

[09:30] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): If ppl have a similar purpose but
are using the same during differnt times it could work

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Sarvana – it could very much
help provide a plan for assisting with those types of efforts which
might be critical to our success

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ok, so Once we have collected
feedback, we can create a draft plan. Then we’ll throw it out to the
community for review and comments. We can revise the plan based on the
information we receive and then finally publish. The plan can then be
used to help all of us work toward common goals to ensure our future
success as a community.

[09:30] Sarvana Haalan: Making “community” more than a word

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Next slide please 🙂
[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): There are many ways to participate
in this effort. I’ve listed them on this slide.

[09:31] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): I like the range of possibilities

[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And again, please let me know if you
want to help in any way. It is definitely an open, community effort
[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): or if you have any other ideas
definitely bring them up anytime
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We can go on to the next slide
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): This is the last slide: You can
follow the progress of the plan on the Virtual Vision 2020 Website at or by joining our Second Life group.
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The last two things I want to
mention are that the plan will be published as a public domain
document – it will be most useful if there is no specific owner of the
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and again I want to add that this is
a volunteer effort by the community and not affiliated with Linden Lab
in any way. Although I believe it would be beneficial to have their
involvement, and I tried to propose the idea to them, they expressed
no interest at all in leading the effort.

[09:33] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): no interest in LEADING – any
interest in following?

[09:33] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We have a few minutes left for
feedback and questions but feel free to ask anything

[09:33] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): supportin?
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): LL imean

[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I could only hope they would
participate somehow – maybe eventually LL will
[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): it would be so much better if we can
all work together

[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Have you considered any work in Opensim?
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Lots of educational comunities have moved
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): mostly due to pricing

[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I do believe eventually in OS we
will have to do the same thing. We are working on a community plan
right now in MOSES

[09:35] Sarvana Haalan: any plans for Kitely?

[09:35] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Well it could start with support –
for and among eachohter

[09:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I think Kitely is a great service
and very useful. Once they interconnect the sims it will also become
more of a regular community and could eventually benefit from a plan

[09:35] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): i believe that was on your list

[09:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gridjumper – because the edu
community is so large and active, they probably would benefit from a
plan like Thynka suggested for the business community. That plan would
probably look at all worlds in its implementation.

[09:37] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): how do you join the group in sl?

[09:37] Oronoque Westland: ? – is there a need to clarify the
perspective the plan is coming from…seems to me we are more
advocates than we are community planners

[09:37] Sarvana Haalan: awesome… this gives quite a bit to share
with “doubting” colleagues when discussing our virtual “community”

[09:37] Thynka Little: i think of the community as separate and
distinct from any particular platform

[09:38] Veri Oddfellow: Oh, should have said before … Brad Lewis,
Great Strides, Damascus, MD Sorry so

[09:38] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Oronoque – the plan will state that
objective. We are advocates but now are moving into planning mode.
It’s either that or allow others to choose our destiny

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: I just joined via your Profile group listing

[09:38] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): One way to share with the doubters
– since it is not easy to bring them here – is Machinima or live

[09:38] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Sarvana- yes you can find the
group in my profile and join. Thanks!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: Just because we live next door to each other in
RL doesn’t mean we belong to the same community (or communities). Only
in the sense that we both pay taxes to the same entity, which gets to
make a “community plan” that affects how they run a sewer line to both
of us. We don’t either one of us get to choose the sewer line. The
tax-collecting entity does that.

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: Me too,.. Sally S.Cherry, Baltimore, MD

[09:38] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Virtual Vision 2020 click
this.. to join the Virtual Vision 2020 group

[09:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Magic!
[09:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And yes, Machinima would be very
helpful in our effort

[09:39] Thynka Little: get Draxtor involved
[09:39] Thynka Little: i will contact him

[09:39] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): thanks any1

[09:40] Merlin Moonshadow: Do you think there’s a benefit in creating
a multipurpose plan that smaller communities could use yet that would
scale to a larger community?

[09:40] Sarvana Haalan: are the previous workshops archived?

[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That is true Gentle – it’s why i
think an overall plan will work here even though we have so many
subcommunities – RL does not involve each specific community but
provides the broad picture
[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin -yes most definitely – that
would be a great goal for the plan
[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Sarvana – I put up a summary on the
Virtual Vision Website of the first workshops

[09:41] Oronoque Westland: ? – are the slides available?

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: Great!!!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I can post them at

[09:41] Oronoque Westland: oh, great…I would like to know more about
the workshops

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pam!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ok, i think we have to wrap up

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: This has been super!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): thanks so very much for allowing me
to share this idea

[09:41] Gentle Heron: Thanks Pam, this is an excellent process for
community planning.

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: Pam rocks!!!!! woot, woot!!! 🙂

[09:42] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): I am here only because I have a
day off – my school district blocks SL. Times of presentations and
events can be an issue – thus streaming and taping can be useful

[09:42] Oronoque Westland: I am thinking I can introduce my students
to this process

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: I think everyone really wants to ask you more
and I bet they can IM you?

[09:42] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Bravo!!! Great job Pam.

[09:42] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Very Brave and Ambitious Pam!
Ty for Leading This Initiative!

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for sharing this with us Pam! Awesome!

[09:42] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): ☆☆☆ HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooow! ☆☆☆

[09:42] Sarvana Haalan: I am still travel back from Atlanta… taking
the scenic route via Charlotte, NC. LOL, LOL

[09:42] Tori Landau: Thanks Pam, a lot to think about °͜°

[09:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, definitely! i can talk about
planning and virtual worlds all day lol

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: I know we want to! lol

[09:43] Sarvana Haalan: And she knows what she is talking about…

[09:43] Buffy Beale: Cheering! this was so interesting

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much!

[09:43] Merlin Moonshadow: Thanks, Pam!

[09:43] Sarvana Haalan: Thanks Pam

[09:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks to all of you!

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, before we hit our Open Mic! I have links
for you all!
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Who has an Open Mic Announcement?

[09:45] Thynka Little: me 🙂
[09:45] Thynka Little: The 5th annual Virtual State Fair Week,
sponsored by Cooperative Extension, will be September 10-16. Any
non-profit with content related to the Extension focus areas is
welcome to put up an exhibit on the fairgrounds. Please message me for
details. The fair is located at
[09:45] Thynka Little: Morrill (131,6,24)

[09:45] Gentle Heron: Virtual State Fair is more fun than a barrel of corn dogs!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[09:46] Thynka Little: to figure out if your content relates go to

[09:46] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid):

[09:46] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Next Tuesday night SIGVE is having
an event for Connected Educators – Please stop by SIGVE or watch on

[09:47] Lotta Flux: Grid, Do you have the SLURL or LM?

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent! We WA folks know how to teach and party in SL!

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: lol, indeed so Z

[09:47] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): The destinations are:
Second Life ISTE SIGVE Headquarters at EduIsland 9 (41,93,22)
Virtual Pioneers at EduIsland 9 (106,77,22)
VSTE at VSTE Island (59,193,28)
SLEEC at SLEEC Island (31,192,22)
Games MOOC at Front Range in Second Life at Front Range (148,88,33)
Cognitive Disonance Guild at World of Warcraft Sisters of Elune Server

[09:47] Lotta Flux: thx!

[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Each of the ed sites will give a 9
minute tour the whole thing is bieng streamed via Google hangout
[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): It starts at SIGVE HQ

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: That is great Gridjumper!

[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): The method has been working very
well and one I would recommend to this group

[09:48] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Super!
[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Any other announcements?

[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): If the goal is to bring in new ppl
[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): for support etc

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: good plan, events are super for that!

[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): 9PM EST next tuesday
[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): August 21
[09:50] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Yes perhaps SIGVE could partner
with this group
[09:50] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): we seem to have similar goals

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s talk about that!

[09:50] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Don’t forget to join the virtual
vision group if you want to keep up with the progress or volunteer!

[09:51] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Virtual Vision 2020 click
this.. to join the Virtual Vision 2020 group

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Great!
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Any other announcements?

[09:52] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): <– motions to adjourn

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, one more thing before we go.
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Not so fast Magic! lol

[09:53] Sarvana Haalan: we never adjourn here… we just pause… lol, lol

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I wanted to encourage everyone to set in their
Prefs to not let your avatar to sleep.
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Do you guys know how to do that?
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I take much better photos when everyone is awake!

[09:54] Dancers Yao: how?

[09:54] Thynka Little: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: And, it makes our speakers feel great if you are awake!

[09:54] Lotta Flux: lol

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: okay

[09:54] Sarvana Haalan: true

[09:54] Buffy Beale: lol Thynka

[09:54] Gentle Heron: Yes Zinnia, but more accurate photos when some
of us are asleep.

[09:54] Merlin Moonshadow: So pass out the caffeine, Zinnia. 😉

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Under Me >

[09:54] Sarvana Haalan: tea for me, please…. hehe

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Preferences

[09:55] Karaoke String: peanut butter and jelly marshmellows for me please

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: General >

[09:55] Karaoke String: i just found the recipe

[09:55] Gentle Heron: Me -> Preferences -> General -> Away Timeout
(set it for over an hour)

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: At the bottom, you see Away Timeout
[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, or never

[09:55] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): / Control P preferences..
General tab… in Viewer 3 there is an Away Timeout pulldown… more
complexicated in other browsers… … V1 variants.. Ctrl Alt D to get
Advanced Menu… then Advanced > Character > Character Tests > CHECK
Go Away/AFK When Idle

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys for helping!

[09:56] Sarvana Haalan: I have mine set on “Never”.

[09:56] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Uncheck***

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please set that, we never sleep in SL!

[09:56] Oronoque Westland: I never go to sleep, not even in RL

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Great meeting and thank you all for being part
of our community!

[09:56] Gentle Heron: oh Oro!

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:56] Buffy Beale: ohh Oro have a nap then

[09:56] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: This is My Life… I never sleep… I let
“Sally” do the sleeping… LOL, LOL

[09:57] Buffy Beale: lol Sar

[09:57] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): TY very interesting presentaiton

[09:57] alebez: thank you!

[09:57] Merlin Moonshadow: Thanks, everyone. I have to run back to RL. 🙂

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: Excellent presentation!!

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: We have the Mentors Meeting at 10:05
[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: ANd, thank you you again Pam!

[09:57] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): yes, great meeting ty
everyone! Huggles ZINNIA! u da boss!

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: lol, thank you Magic!

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: going for my tea now… brb

[09:58] Buffy Beale: bye all who aren’t staying after have a great week

[09:58] Glitteractica Cookie: bye alll=

[09:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, thanks to everyone!

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Please take care!

[09:58] Gentle Heron waves to everyone who is leaving

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Written by: Zinnia Zauber