Transcript of the Nonprofit Commons Meeting with Zinnia Zauber / Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond about “IP Respect” June 15, 2012

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting Transcript

June 15, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

• • 8:30am Introductions
• • 8:40am TechSoup Announcements
• • 8:45am Mentors Central
• • 8:55am Intellectual Property Respect – A Virtual Artist’s Perspective with Zinnia Zauber / Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond of Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance
• • 9:30am Open Mic / Announcements

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for joining us this morning at
the Nonprofit Commons!

[08:31] Nany (nany.kayo): Great to be here.

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: As folks are arriving, please be sure to
welcome new faces and old friends.
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: I am getting some IMs that people can’t TP here.
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: So, if you see some of our friends inworld,
please keep sending them TPs

[08:33] Nany (nany.kayo): Several people here I did not get a chance
to meet while I was busy with a class this year. Nice to see you!

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Let me share with our Agenda for today.

[08:33] CarmenLittleFawn: Hello

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: AGENDA
• 8:30am Introductions
• 8:40am TechSoup Announcements
• 8:45am Mentors Central
• 8:55am Intellectual Property Respect – A Virtual Artist’s
Perspective with Zinnia Zauber / Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond of Sequim
Humanities and Arts Alliance
• 9:30am Open Mic / Announcements


[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: With that, let start with Introductions!

[08:34] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:34] Panny Bakerly: Jeanne Booth, Freeport Historical Society,
Freeport, NY; @FrptHisSoc

[08:34] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation
[08:34] HB Eternal: Go Buffy!

[08:34] Buffy Beale: lol HB slipped 🙂

[08:34] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, online community manager, TechSoup
Global,, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Please share who you are, what org you are
with, and web links. Please

[08:34] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online Community and Social
Media Director, TechSoup, SF, CA USA @suzboop @npsl @techsoup

[08:34] Nany (nany.kayo): Nancy K McDonald Miller, Virtual Native Lands

[08:34] trichetriche: Hi, my name is Bea, I recently joined TechSoup
as a Community Curator for the Global Local Impact map. I’m really
excited about this project and will share more with you during the
open mic announcements. @trichetriche @techsoup

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:34] Chayenn: monique richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc, Baltimore
Maryland, PY1.Us,, @PY1US

[08:34] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:34] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:35] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup,
SF, @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:35] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American
Veterans Association, Akron, OH,

[08:35] Buffy Beale: Yay Trichetriche and welcome!

[08:35] CarmenLittleFawn: drivebyagony/Keeping Kids Safe, Lorna
Hawkins Los Angeles California

[08:35] trichetriche: Thanks!

[08:35] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare,
Kirksville, Missouri, @brenabenoir

[08:35] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society,
Wisconsin USA

[08:36] Adrianne Lexico: Adriana Sanchez. I don´t belong to any
organization. I´m interested in intellectual property and wanted to
learn more about your work in SL.
[08:36] Adrianne Lexico: I´m from Argentina.

[08:36] Glitteractica Cookie: Welcome Adrianne

[08:36] Adrianne Lexico: ty

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: While you all are doing introductions, if you
are also a Nonprofit Commons Mentor, could you please say so? That way
during the meeting people can connect with you if they are new or have

[08:37] Hour Destiny: Morris Cox, Nonprofit Commons Mentor, Mesquite,
Nevada, USA

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Hour!

[08:37] Serene Jewell: Kathleen Watkins, maker of various media, San Francisco

[08:37] Lyssa (janlyssa.serenity): Lyssa Rowan, Job
Accommodation Network, @JANatJAN

[08:38] Hour Destiny: You’re welcome. 🙂

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: We have a Mentors Meeting after this meeting to
help people, so please connect with these amazing people!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: More introductions?

[08:39] Nany (nany.kayo): Hi, Jac!

[08:39] CarmenLittleFawn: Hi Jacmacaire

[08:39] Adrianne Lexico: Hello

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Great to see you all here!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Okay

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with
the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons blog:



Google Group:

Google Calendar:


About TechSoup:

Weekly Networking Event: Wharf Ratz, Aloft, Tuesdays, 7-9pm SLT
Aloft Nonprofit Commons (168,223,23)

Monthly Networking Event (3rd Thursday): Common Ground, Plush, 5PM-7PM SLT
Plush Nonprofit Commons (128,229,26)

[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: small group today… did the announcements go out?

[08:40] bulaklak: I got one

[08:40] Nany (nany.kayo): me too

[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: maybe it’s just that everyones on vacation

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, I sent them on all the channels.

[08:40] bulaklak: Thanks for pasting the links, Zinnia

[08:40] Buffy Beale: I got it too Z

[08:40] Kali Idziak: Oops, late… Jessica Dally, Springwire (formally
Community Voice Mail) Seattle, WA

[08:40] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire Humanbe Action Tank and Council on Sustainable
Development France and International @Humanbe

[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: hmm … must be that it’s perfect
weather in so many places!

[08:40] Hour Destiny: Or suffering hangovers from Flag Day. 🙂

[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: LOL hour

[08:41] bulaklak: That never stops our team from showing up….

TechSoup Announcements

[08:41] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s have our TechSoup Announcements

[08:41] Glitteractica Cookie: WHAAA??!

[08:41] bulaklak: Howdy, folks!

[08:41] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak

[08:41] CarmenLittleFawn: Hello

[08:41] bulaklak: I hope everyone is enjoying their Fridays thus far.
[08:41] bulaklak: We’ve got a lot of great events on the horizon at TechSoup

[08:41] Nany (nany.kayo): I am!

[08:42] bulaklak: But first I wanted to let you all know that the end
of our fiscal year is coming up at the end of this month

[08:42] Hour Destiny: Does TechSoup order from TechSoup? 😀

[08:42] bulaklak: What does that mean? It means that if you haven’t
yet maxed out your 2011 allotment of TechSoup donations, there is
still time!
[08:43] bulaklak: Many of our donor partners hit the reset button on
July 1, so request before then to make sure you are getting everything
you are entitled to for this year.
[08:43] bulaklak: (And then start requesting again on July 1. Hehe.)
[08:44] bulaklak: Hour, we don’t actually. We do get a certain
allotment of software from our donor partners but it’s not through the
donation program.
[08:44] bulaklak: At any rate, there is a lot more info on fiscal year end here
[08:45] bulaklak:
[08:45] bulaklak: Okie doke on to events.
[08:45] bulaklak: Next week, we are co-producing a webinar with the
folks from Eventbrite and Social Media for Nonprofits
[08:45] bulaklak: You will be able to learn how to use social media to
get the most out of your events
[08:46] bulaklak: Join us on June 20 for that one, at 11am Pacific.
Register here:
[08:47] bulaklak: The following day, June 21, we are having a
cross-timezone tweet chat on the topic of data. More and more it’s
becoming apparent how crucial it is that we as social benefit orgs are
getting our data out there in front of decision makers
[08:47] bulaklak: This tweet chat will talk about how you can use your
org’s data to become part of that conversation
[08:47] bulaklak: This blog explains more, as well as how to join a
tweet chat in case that’s new to you
[08:48] bulaklak:
[08:48] Hour Destiny: “Dashboard Your Data” could be the name of it.
[08:48] bulaklak: The hashtag is #npdata and we’ll be convening at 10am Pacific
[08:48] bulaklak: That’s a great idea, Hour. We are usually not so
creative with titles at TechSoup. We’re kinda straightforward. But I
love your suggestion.
[08:48] bulaklak: Okay folks, that’s all I’ve got for today!

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: good stuff

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[08:48] bulaklak: Thank you for listening and enjoy the rest of the meeting.

[08:49] CarmenLittleFawn: ty

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Glitter, you wanted to share as well, please.

[08:49] bulaklak: Oh!

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: Sure

[08:49] bulaklak: Sorry I had one last announcement

[08:49] bulaklak: But I can wait

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: You guys arm wrestle for it.

[08:49] bulaklak: LOL

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: I just wanted to say, first of all,
athat we are all happy to have Zinnia on board as our interim
community manager, as much as we miss Rik
[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: (Bulaklak, just a sec)

[08:50] Chayenn: yes we are

[08:50] bulaklak: Yay, Zinnia!

[08:50] Chayenn: thank u zinnia

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: and we have a few opportuntiies to build
on past systems that may need we re-examining

[08:50] trichetriche: welcome

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: so, for example, the NPC group versus
the TechSoup inworld group

[08:50] CarmenLittleFawn: congrats Zinnia

[08:51] Brena Benoir: Woot Zinnia!

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: we have two groups, one for the
community and the other (the nonprofitcommons group) is for “resident”
members who have offices
[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: the techsoup group is for the larger community

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: we can re-examine if this arrnagement
still makes sense, but I wanted to at least clarify how it is
[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: so you all can know that the Nonprofit
commons group is supposed to be for resident information, and
informataion pertaining to more involved members and mentors, etc
[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: the techsoup group was originally
intended for larger community stuff
[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: i would be interested in conflating
these if that were possible and made sense
[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: And Zinnia and I will discuss this

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: but for now, let’s just keep that in
mind, so we all know what the community is behind each group
[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: That’s all for me

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Glitter!

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: Bulaklak… you were starting to say?
[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: (you’re welcome)

[08:53] bulaklak: Yes, I would like to welcome our newest team member

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: oh yes

[08:53] bulaklak: This is her first time inworld today

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: woo hoo welcome trichtriche

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome!

[08:54] alebez: wahooo! trichetriche

[08:54] CarmenLittleFawn: hello trichetriche welcome

[08:54] Panny Bakerly: Hi ya!

[08:54] trichetriche: Thanks you! Everyone has been so sweet. Very cool

[08:54] jacmacaire Humby: welcome.. 🙂

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: can yo ucome down to the front, so folks
can see you?

[08:54] Serene Jewell: Hi tri

[08:54] bulaklak: I believe she is having some rezzing issues (not
uncommon at first, I remember how awkward it was for me at first!) so
please give her a warm welcome

[08:54] Buffy Beale: yayy trichetriche

[08:54] Sarvana Haalan: Sally S. Cherry, Baltimore, MD

[08:54] trichetriche: I’m struggling a bit with my avatar
[08:54] trichetriche: 🙁

[08:54] Hour Destiny: Hello, trichetriche. I’m a Morris of all trades.

[08:54] bulaklak: We’ll work with you on that!

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: if you right click on stool next to
bulaklak you can sit there

[08:54] trichetriche: once I get the hang of it I’ll get on over there

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: We all understand and are here to help!

[08:55] Glitteractica Cookie: just right click on that stool and select sit here

[08:55] trichetriche: I’m also having graphic issues

[08:55] bulaklak: I think maybe she can’t see the stools right now, just water

[08:55] Glitteractica Cookie: ah, it happens

[08:55] trichetriche: so I’m not able to see them

[08:55] Serene Jewell: We’ve all been through it.

[08:55] Glitteractica Cookie: oh, ok no prob

[08:55] bulaklak: At any rate, trichetriche if you want to give a
brief description of your work at TechSoup

[08:55] Glitteractica Cookie: yes, we’ve all been there

[08:56] trichetriche: Sure, I don’t want to be disruptive so I’m happy
to wait till the end

[08:57] bulaklak: Okay we can wait and do that during the
announcements so you can tell everyone about the stories you are
[08:57] bulaklak: Moving on for now . . .
[08:57] bulaklak: Oops I meant open mic

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: We look forward to learning more!

[08:57] bulaklak: Anyway, take it away Zinnia

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

Mentor Central and Intellectual Property Respect – A Virtual Artist’s Perspective with Zinnia Zauber / Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond of Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: The good news is that Mentors Central blends in
with my talk today.

[08:58] Sarvana Haalan: woot!!

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Before I start, I want to remind everyone that
the NPC Mentors are here to help you out and we do mini lessons and
share during Mentor Central.

[08:59] Buffy Beale: cheering for youZ!

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: So! Let’s get started!
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Intellectual Property Respect – A Virtual
Artist’s Perspective with Zinnia Zauber
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: You can find the slides here for later……

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: I am an artist, instructor, and superhero
promoting the importance of creative education and community
participation in the arts that are active and inclusive.
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: I teach art, computer, digital media, and
social media use through Peninsula College, as a Lecturer and
Education Mentor for the University of Washington Certificate in
Virtual Worlds Program, and conduct workshops for TechSoup’s Nonprofit
Commons on branding, marketing, event production, and social media
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: I create art, apparel, and virtual goods that
embrace the empowerment of brilliant hues, individualism, and
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: I am thankful to get to share with you all today!

[09:02] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot…. Zinnia!!!!

[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Disclaimer: I am an artist, instructor, and
Arts advocate, not a lawyer. The information contained in this
presentation is provided for informational purposes only, and should
not be construed as legal advice on any subject matter.
[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: I can be heavy handed when it comes to
Intellectual Property Respect because I have had my work stolen – at a
young age – and I used to run an artists’ resource office for the
nonprofit Artists’ Equity.

[09:02] Ethelred Weatherwax: You’re sounding like a lawye!

[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: lol Eth!
[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: It is important to me and I am thankful you are
interested in learning more.
[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Why do people not recognize the rights of
creative people?
[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: It is a simple issue of lack of respect for the
professions of those who create. It is a legitimate job with results
that last long after a civilization has ended.
[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Everything you interact with that is human made
has art, design, culture, and invention embedded in it. Thank you for
supporting creative expression and valuing those who create it!
[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: You will find that I ask you questions along the way…
[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Encourage the Dos and the Do Not’s through
responsible and respective behavior.
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Lead by example.
Claiming ignorance is unacceptable.

[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: A great resource online about legal information
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Or find your local lawyer for the Arts –

[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: What do you value or earn?

Respect, Self-worth, Money
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: What do you get in return?
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Recognition for your accomplishments,
admiration from your peers, friendship, and cool stuff.
[09:05] Zinnia Zauber: Do you own your efforts?

[09:05] Zinnia Zauber: How would you feel if someone stole your stuff
or your income or your reputation?

[09:05] Hour Destiny: Willful ignorance is unacceptable.

[09:05] Zinnia Zauber: Is that legal behavior?

[09:05] Zinnia Zauber: Right, Hour.

[09:05] Sarvana Haalan: It happens much too often 🙁

[09:06] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (yes, Nolo’s great)

[09:06] Nany (nany.kayo): There is another side to this issue I hope
to bring up.

[09:06] Zinnia Zauber: You all can help. disingenuous actions are hard
for us to understand.
[09:06] Zinnia Zauber: When it comes to Intellectual Property, there
is no gray area. It is black and white.

[09:06] Nany (nany.kayo): dont think so, Zinnia

[09:06] Zinnia Zauber: Taking without permission is stealing.
[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: Arrrg! Do you know pirates?
[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: People often tell me that they think because
images, writing, music, or video is on the web or in a virtual world;
it is free for them to take. Absolutely not! It is thievery unless the
creator of the work has given you permission.

[09:07] Nany (nany.kayo): Museums claim property rights to things they
did not create

[09:07] Sarvana Haalan: I prefer “written permission” before using
content both ways.

[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, Nany, I think we will have to address that
issue sometime.

[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: Respect, Professionalism, Integrity, and Understanding
[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: Requirements to value Intellectual Property Rights.
[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: You can not have truth without an agreement. A
handshake is an accord. Respect is value.
[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: What is intellectual property?
Ideas and creative assets become property once they can be touched,
seen, heard, and felt.

[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: When a light bulb in your head, becomes one in
your hand. So, it has to somehow escape from your brain and become a
tangible medium of expression.

[09:08] Hour Destiny: Technically, ideas cannot be intellectual property. 🙂

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: right Hour

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: Four ways to protect different types of
intellectual property:

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: What is a Copyright?
Copyright is a form of protection grounded in the U.S. Constitution
and granted by law for original works of authorship fixed in a
tangible medium of expression. Copyright covers both published and
unpublished works.

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: What is a Patent?
A patent is a grant issued by the United States government giving the
inventor the right to exclude all others from making, using, or
selling their invention. There are three kinds of patents: utility,
design, and plant.

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: What is a trademark?
A trademark is a distinctive word, phrase, symbol, or design which
identifies specific goods or services as those produced or provided by
a certain person or enterprise.

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: What is a Trade Secret?
A trade secret can be any formula, compilation of information,
pattern, or device which benefits a business and can give an advantage
over their competitors.

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: How are those slides rezzing for you guys?

[09:10] Ageliki Mekanic: ok

[09:10] Serene Jewell: they look good

[09:10] Hour Destiny: Anonymonity and punishments that seem excessive
seem to be two of the main reasons for piracy. Not to mention

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: Super, thank you!
[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: I am going to focus on copyrights for this
presentation. I will cover what can have a copyright, how to get a
copyright, length of rights, public domain, fair use, Creative Commons

[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: What types of creative work does copyright protect?
Any original “fixed in a tangible medium of expression” which means
that the work must exist in some kind of physical form for at least
some period of time. That includes any recorded media or your
computer’s random access memory (RAM).

[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: Some examples include: Artistic – architectural
designs, digital media, graphic designs, paintings, photographs,
[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: Literary – educational materials, novels, plays, poetry…
Performances – choreography, music, sheet music, sounds… Recorded
media – games, movies, music, software, videos…

[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: Are creative ideas protected?
[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: No.
Once a creative idea becomes tangible, then it can be protected.

[09:11] Hour Destiny: Emails…

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: yes, Hour – emails and they are legal docs…

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: The copyright is a legal device that provides
the creator the rights to control how their protected work is used.
Those rights involve the reproduction right, distribution right,
performance and display rights, and the right to create adaptations
(or derivative works).

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: How do I copyright my work?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and
fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or
with the aid of a machine or device.
[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: You have the © (copyright) once you make the
idea actual. Once it is tangible.

[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: Why would I register my copyright?
To protect your works and if you needed to take legal action.

[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: How do I register copyright of my work?
[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: $35 – Online registration of a basic claim in
an original work of authorship (electronic filing)
Lots more services and forms there…

[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: A valid copyright notice should contain:

the word “copyright”

a “c” in a circle ©

the date of publication

the name of either the author or owner of the copyright rights in the
published work.
[09:14] Zinnia Zauber: Remember, once you create something – it has a copyright.

[09:14] Zinnia Zauber: How long does a copyright last?
For works published after 1977, the copyright lasts for the life of
the author plus 70 years.
Works published after 1922 but before 1978 are protected for 95 years
from the date of publication.
[09:14] Zinnia Zauber: All works published in the United States before
1923 are in the public domain.

[09:14] Zinnia Zauber: What is the public domain?
It refers to creative materials that are not protected by intellectual
property laws such as copyright, trademark, or patent laws.
[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: You should presume that every work is protected
by copyright unless you can establish that it is not. Just because you
don’t see a ©, you know it has a copyright if it is created after

[09:15] Hour Destiny: Don’t forget Fair Use rights.

[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: Do your research and remember copyrights can be renewed.
[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: I will cover that!
[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂
[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: This disrespectful statement pisses me off,
have you heard it?
“I rather beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.”
[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: That is disingenuous laziness and illegal behavior.
“Cuff him, Dano!”

[09:15] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Can be expensive too

[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: yes!

[09:16] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[09:16] Zinnia Zauber: Do you feel like you are restricted by these
copyrights to protect the creators?
[09:16] Zinnia Zauber: Maybe you want to make something in a virtual
world, don’t have the ability to make original works of your own. You
have options.
[09:16] Zinnia Zauber: You understand the rights creators have over
their works, so how can you use their work to create your own?

[09:16] Zinnia Zauber: Respect creators’ rights and discover how you
can create as well.
[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: Take a class and learn to make it yourself!
It is easier than ever to create unique works yourself!
[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: If you know how to use your phone camera, BAM!
You have a means to create amazing textures that you can bring
[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: No one needs to know that stunning sofa in your
office started out as a close up of your favorite polar fleece. Or,
was it some pound cake?

[09:17] Hour Destiny: As I sit here with an Optimus Prime avatar…

[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: hehe, right…

[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: Support creators…
[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: Buy works that you have the license to use.
[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: When you buy a piece of art, like a painting,
you do not have any reproduction rights. That is the right to make
copies of a protected work.
You only have the right to hang it on your wall.
[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: The artist owns the reproduction rights while
you own the painting.
Unless it is stated in the sales contract that the purchase includes
the reproduction rights. Don’t assume anything, contact the artist for
[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: Always ask!
[09:18] Zinnia Zauber: Most people don’t understand these rules.
[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: Some artists don’t know their rights either.
[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: Licensed works will have terms of service in
writing that explains permitted use of the work and details
stipulations. Creators may want to maintain the integrity of their
works and express restrictions.

[09:19] Sarvana Haalan: It’s hard to get folks to understand the rules. 🙁

[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, but that is why we are discussing it. To help them!
[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: A good example of that in virtual worlds are
textures. The creator of a texture might state do not resell or
distribute these as textures. Resell only as part of a build. So you
have bought a license to use the textures, not sell the textures on
their own.
[09:19] Zinnia Zauber: Read the fine print…
[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: ask the creator…
[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: Creative Commons license, let’s the creator
keep their copyright, but gives a way to let people use, copy, and
distribute works.
[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: Do you guys know about the Creative Commons?

[09:20] CarmenLittleFawn: no

[09:20] Zotarah Shepherd nods

[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: Later, check out…
[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: This is a great video explaining what the
Creative Commons offers…

[09:21] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes

[09:21] CarmenLittleFawn: ty

[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: I am going to try to get a speaker to discuss
that for us someday.
[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: CC instead of c
[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: Different licenses include: Attribution,
Attribution-ShareAlike, Attribution-NoDerivs,
Attribution-NonCommercial, Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike, and
[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: Fair Uses – a limitation and exception to the
exclusive right granted by copyright law to the author of a creative
[09:21] Zinnia Zauber: Violations of fair use occurs when the use of
copyrighted work is used for commercial gain.

[09:22] Glitteractica Cookie: I can help you get a speaker to talk to that

[09:22] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Glitter

[09:22] Nany (nany.kayo): Good idea

[09:22] Zinnia Zauber: Uses That Are Generally Fair Uses:
Nonprofit educational uses
Research and scholarship
News reporting
Criticism and comment
Non-commercial use is often fair use.
Benefit to the public may be fair use.
[09:22] Zinnia Zauber: How’s that Hour?

[09:22] Ozma Malibu: We used Creative Commons works for the Helios
science classes, Z. That’s where I found the images for the
instruction for physics etc.

[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: Super, then we really should line that up!
[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: I see this violation all the time at craft
fairs when vendors are selling items that contain licensed characters
– like Disney characters.
[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: They will by fabric with those characters and
it states clearly in the selvage (the edge of the fabric) “This
product intended for non-commercial home use only.”

[09:23] Hour Destiny: What about books in audio format? What if
someone is blind and needs an audio format?

[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: That means that whatever is made out of the
fabric isn’t licensed for resale. So, the maker of the potholder is
violating the rights of the fabric creator if they sell the potholder.

[09:23] Glitteractica Cookie: TechSoup is published under creative commons

[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: Needless to say, people break the laws. So, I
encourage folks at the craft fairs to educate themselves.

[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: Good question on the audio… I think more and
more talks are coming up!

[09:24] Glitteractica Cookie: here is an oldie but goodie article from
TechSoup 2008 about creative commons: what it is, how to use it:

[09:24] Zinnia Zauber: I get asked this all the time, “If I change
something enough, like with Photoshop, can I use it for myself without
the permission of the creator?” I always picture in my head
Michelangelo’s “The Creation of Adam “ on the Sistine Chapel ceiling.
My answer is, “If you are creative enough, make something new
[09:24] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Glitter!

[09:24] Glitteractica Cookie: no prob

[09:24] Zinnia Zauber: Derivative or “derivative work” is defined as
work based on one or more preexisting works that are transformed or

[09:24] Hour Destiny: 30% changes.

[09:24] Zinnia Zauber: Nearly everything is a derivative of something.
[09:24] Zinnia Zauber: Transformativeness – work must sufficiently
transforms the expression of the original work that the new work is no
longer “substantially similar” and does not infringe the copyright in
the original.
[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: So, we know we can make changes…
[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: and make it our own
[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: but, I like people really making things on their own.
[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: I get to teach more classes that way!
[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[09:25] CarmenLittleFawn: love it

[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: Virtual Rights are Real Rights

Content in Second Life is any works of creative authorship that
includes text, scripts, applications, programs, gestures, animations,
video, music, sounds, images, photos, textures, graphic design,
primitives, and objects.

[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: Everything here is ART!
[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: right?
[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: we are all pieces of work
[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: some more than others
[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: 😉

[09:26] CarmenLittleFawn: lol

[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: Appreciate your own significance.
If you license your work, you retain legal ownership of the work
(copyright) while someone else can produce, duplicate your imagery on
merchandise, and sell your item.
[09:27] Zinnia Zauber: Depending on the written contract, when you
grant the license, you can receive a royalty. That is an ongoing
payment based upon a percentage of the income from the licensed work.
[09:27] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you here create in SL?

[09:27] Zotarah Shepherd: I do

[09:27] CarmenLittleFawn: I am going to

[09:27] jacmacaire Humby: not fool 🙂

[09:27] Zinnia Zauber: Don’t be shy!

[09:27] Brena Benoir: I have before

[09:27] Buffy Beale: I do

[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[09:28] CarynTopia Silvercloud: I am trying to learn how

[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[09:28] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Raises Hand

[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[09:28] Serene Jewell: yes

[09:28] Hour Destiny: I wish content owners overall were more open to
alternative expressions.

[09:28] CarmenLittleFawn: I also have a copyright, but have learned a
lot more about it here today from you

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: Then, you know how important it is to protect
your efforts.

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: Second Life / Linden Lab Terms of Service
Content Licenses and Intellectual Property Rights

[09:29] Dancers Yao: yes

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: thank you Carmen!

[09:29] Ozma Malibu: Zinnia you are good at raising awareness and
ENTHUSIASM! I want to go out and take photos right now! I just need to
think of a project to put them in. 🙂

[09:29] Nany (nany.kayo): everybody is welcome to steal anything I create here.

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: You retain any and all Intellectual Property
Rights in Content you upload, publish, or create in Second Life.
You grant certain Content licenses to Linden Lab and users of Second
Life by submitting your Content to publicly accessible areas.

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: lol Nany

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: If you violate other’s Intellectual Property
Rights, your access to Second Life will be terminated.
[09:29] Zinnia Zauber:

[09:29] Nany (nany.kayo): It’s true. Ask me and I will give you a copy
of anything I make, full perms

[09:29] Sarvana Haalan: you are saying that we as content creators
need to copyright our creations?

[09:30] Sarvana Haalan: what about photos?

[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: the moment you make it, it has a copyright.

[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: Linden Lab Official: Snapshot and machinima policy
[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: If you wish to take a snapshot or capture
machinima of content on another Resident’s land, then you need the
Land Owner Consent. Check the Land’s covenant for details.

[09:30] CarmenLittleFawn: oh ok

[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: On the Mainland or Linden owned land, you can
take snapshots without permission, but you do need it to capture
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Ask permission of each avatar too.…

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: So, that can be overwhelming… I know!
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Ask Permission and give credit!
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: I did a machinima of artists friends in Second
Life and requested permission to film the artist and their works.
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: When I do presentations to promote Second Life,
I ask permission to use photos of them.
[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: I also created my own artwork based on an
avatar with that avatar’s permission.
Thank you to Filthy Fluno!

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is
a United States copyright law that criminalizes production and
dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to
circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works.

[09:32] Zotarah Shepherd: (He is one of SLs great artists)

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: If you discover your work is being distributed
online or inworld without your permission, file a DMCA notice with the

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, Filthy Rocks!

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Learn more!
Be Respectful!
Embrace Personal Responsibility!
Support Creatives!
Be Brilliant!
Unlock your own unique creativity!
Thank you very much!

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Be Advocates of Awesomeness!

[09:33] Hour Destiny: Poor Drextor Despres.

[09:34] Buffy Beale: this was just great Z, thank you!

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Okay! That was a lot of text and info!
[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:34] Zotarah Shepherd: Thank you Z

[09:34] CarmenLittleFawn: very informative and important Thank you so much 🙂

[09:34] trichetriche: Thanks

[09:34] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks zinnia

[09:34] Adrianne Lexico: Excellent presentation!!! THANKS, Z!!!

[09:34] Dancers Yao: excellent,,,than you so important

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: So, I wanted to give us a chance to discuss… as well.

[09:34] bulaklak: Thank you, Zinnia! Great knowledge and advice.

[09:35] Brena Benoir: Woot Zinnia. Thank you for sharing and educating
us on topics that impact us everyday.

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, this is very important to me.

[09:35] Ageliki Mekanic: Thank you! Great!

[09:35] Serene Jewell: Thanks so much for doing this, Zinnia.

[09:35] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Excellent presentation

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: So, let me ask you some questions…

[09:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Thanks Zin!

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: Do you think that everything online is free for
you to take and use?

[09:35] CarmenLittleFawn: no

[09:35] Zotarah Shepherd: no

[09:36] Brena Benoir: no

[09:36] trichetriche: nope

[09:36] Jen (jenelle.levenque): NO

[09:36] bertique: i have seen a lot of pictures taken in sl on
flickr… many people protect them buy copyrights… i find it is…
stupid.. beacause sharing is caring

[09:36] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Not everything.

[09:36] Hour Destiny: Unless you get caught… 😀

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: okay, so I see that some people want to see
more sharing…

[09:36] CarmenLittleFawn: well I like the idea of being creative

[09:36] bertique: i never protect my pics made inworld. i would be
greatful, if somebody finds my pics so good so that he or she will
repost them

[09:37] Nany (nany.kayo): agree

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: That is why the Creative Commons is for you guys!

[09:37] bertique: i am a JOOOMLA fan
[09:37] bertique: i love open source products

[09:37] trichetriche: I love Creative Commons

[09:37] bertique: i really do not understand creative commons

[09:37] Nany (nany.kayo): and if the person using those photos is not
selling them, that is fair use, isnt it?

[09:37] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): ditto.. fan of the CC

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: I think we will really have to do some talks
about that in the future!

[09:37] bertique: because it is some times tricky to understand

[09:38] Buffy Beale: Question: Z how do we license our avatars and can we?

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: yes, there are many choices there.

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: Back… I crashed

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: You can trademark your avatar

[09:38] CarmenLittleFawn: really
[09:38] CarmenLittleFawn: how?

[09:38] Buffy Beale: wb Sar 🙂

[09:38] Zotarah Shepherd: I am fine with folks using my creations, I
would not however want them stolen from me as their own so I could not
use them.

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Draxtor did
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: I am in the process of doing it.
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: I am doing an art project about that process.

[09:38] CarmenLittleFawn: did he?

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: yes

[09:39] CarmenLittleFawn: cool
[09:39] CarmenLittleFawn: I would be interested when u find out

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: He and I are discussing how we can share that
process together.

[09:39] Nany (nany.kayo): Seems petty to fret about someone using some
little bit of junk I make in SL.

[09:39] CarmenLittleFawn: great 🙂

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: So, that will be another talk!!!

[09:39] Buffy Beale: that’s great and would be a good session

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Awesome!

[09:39] Adrianne Lexico: yes, definitely

[09:39] CarmenLittleFawn: yes it would be

[09:39] Hour Destiny: A MMO (Massively Multiplayer Online game) that
is free-to-play will still infringe on IP even if it is free.

[09:39] Nany (nany.kayo): LL can easily grab it and wipe it out at any time.

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: True Nany

[09:39] Sarvana Haalan: what is you bought your avatar an dmade major
modifications, can you trademark or copyright it?

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: true
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Well, can we agree that I will have to prepare
another talk about the avatar issues?

[09:40] CarmenLittleFawn: yes indeed

[09:40] bertique: sure

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: I did a talk about that at FCVW this year.

[09:40] Sarvana Haalan: *what if…

[09:40] Buffy Beale: I’d like to know about trademarking an avatar so sure

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: It is very important stuff.

[09:40] Zotarah Shepherd: If you made the skin and shape then you
should be able to trademark your avatar. I am not quite that creative

[09:40] Sarvana Haalan: great idea

[09:41] CarmenLittleFawn: yes it is important

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, Buffy is my star when it comes to avatar branding.

[09:41] bertique: hm
[09:41] bertique: may i ask one question?

[09:41] Buffy Beale: that’s easy cause Zinnia made my skin 🙂

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Please

[09:41] bertique: it is very important to me

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: coool!!

[09:41] bertique: what does “commercial use” means?
[09:41] Zotarah Shepherd: I’d know Buffy anywhere without seeing her tag

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: That means to earn income from.

[09:41] trichetriche: buying and selling

[09:41] Adrianne Lexico: seems like we have another talk ahead, Zinnia!

[09:41] bertique: if i create a website and use it privatly, it is
not.. ok, but if i place some ads there?

[09:42] CarmenLittleFawn: hehehee

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: So, like if music is playing in a store…

[09:42] Buffy Beale: 🙂 worn this outfit since I started

[09:42] Adrianne Lexico: you have to tell us more about trademarking avatars! 🙂

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: that is also commercial use

[09:42] Zotarah Shepherd: I know : )

[09:42] bertique: :((

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: and people have to pay to play

[09:42] CarmenLittleFawn: yes u have Buffy 🙂

[09:42] CarmenLittleFawn: yes they do Zinnia

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: I am so excited you guys are interested in more!

[09:42] Adrianne Lexico: we always are!

[09:42] Adrianne Lexico: :

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: yay!

[09:42] CarmenLittleFawn: I am 🙂

[09:42] HB Eternal: and yes, Buffy washes her outfit regularly

[09:42] bertique: it’s a great topic

[09:42] Buffy Beale: not easy running around as a little green fairy I
can tell you that lol

[09:43] Adrianne Lexico: lol

[09:43] CarmenLittleFawn: heheheeh

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: But, I want to be sure we get a chance to
handle our whole agenda

[09:43] Buffy Beale: with all the gorgeous others here
[09:43] Buffy Beale: lol HB, at least weekly

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: so how about you guys share with me more topics
you would like covered.
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: and we will work on that!
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for this chance to share with you and
the slides are here
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber:…

[09:44] Adrianne Lexico: sure.

[09:44] Hour Destiny: 3d game development. 😀

[09:44] Zotarah Shepherd: Identity theft too

[09:44] Buffy Beale: I’d like to hear from some of the NGOs here, mini
presentations on the org

[09:44] Adrianne Lexico: fair use in education

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Super ideas!!!

[09:44] CarmenLittleFawn: yes 🙂

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Keep them coming and email too at renneemiko(AT)gmail(DOT)com
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!

[09:44] CarmenLittleFawn: ok

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Open Mic / Announcements
[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Who has some?

[09:45] Adrianne Lexico: seems like the law is sometimes different
depending where you live.

[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: I like Buffy’s idea, esp if those
stories refer to uses of tech by the org. Good for the pruposes of
trichetriche too

[09:45] Adrianne Lexico: thank you, Zinnia!

[09:45] Buffy Beale: Z a tip… use renneemiko[at]gmail[dot]com and
you’ll avoid the trollers 🙂

[09:45] trichetriche: Thanks everyone for being so welcoming

[09:45] Adrianne Lexico: thank you all.

[09:45] Buffy Beale: x out your email addy before posting to the web

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: You are more than welcome! It is my passion to
educate and encourage!
[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: thank you, Buffy

[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: Excellent presentation… How are Nonprofits
members using the 3D technology other than their NPC office and

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Trolls love me

[09:46] Adrianne Lexico: need to leave now. goodbye! bye Nanny
[09:46] Hour Destiny: Would like a way for nonprofits to more easily
bring their staff up to update on various issues including IP.

[09:46] Buffy Beale: bye Adrianne

[09:46] Nany (nany.kayo): bye, Adrianne!

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Great

[09:46] Adrianne Lexico: goodbye

[09:46] CarmenLittleFawn: bye Adrianne

[09:46] Adrianne Lexico: from rainy Buenos Aires, Argentina

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Does any one have Open Mic items?

[09:46] CarmenLittleFawn: Thank you again Zinnia for a great presentation

[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: I do

[09:46] trichetriche: I do

[09:46] Buffy Beale: Z can we talk about the SLB NPC display?

[09:47] bertique: thanks a lot

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: I do

[09:47] Buffy Beale: Second Life birthday display

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, Sar
[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: go for it

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: Much to my delight a local colleague write
about my presentation, “Capabitility through 3D Virtual Worlds” at the
Tech and Social Change Meetup in Baltimore, MD USA last month.She
include the provided information and links to TechSoup and the
Nonprofit Commons. Her article was linked on her Facebook page.

[09:47] Buffy Beale: wow that’s great Sar!

[09:47] trichetriche: congratulations

[09:48] CarmenLittleFawn: nice 🙂

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[09:48] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes, congrats

[09:48] Sarvana Haalan: did that transmit?

[09:48] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: yes
[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, trichetriche…

[09:49] trichetriche: Thank you
[09:49] trichetriche: TechSoup has an exciting new initiative in
partnership with Microsoft called the Local Impact Map, and we will
love for you to be a part of it. We want to showcase the amazing work
nonprofits and NGO’s are doing with donated technology; we are looking
for stories from nonprofits around the world who have benefited from
TechSoup’s technology donations and resources. If you have a story to
share or know any other nonprofits who do email:, and if you have any questions or want to
learn more email me
[09:49] trichetriche: Please take a moment and explore the map to see
how organizations are showcased
[09:50] trichetriche: I look forward to hearing from you and hope we
can work so that other people around the world can see the great work
you do. 🙂

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[09:50] CarmenLittleFawn: Thank you 🙂

[09:50] trichetriche: I’m also going to be asking for help and
patience while I familiarize myself with SL. 🙂

[09:50] CarmenLittleFawn: 🙂

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Have you seen my slides on starting in SL trichetriche?

[09:51] trichetriche: not yet

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: I’ll get that to you!

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, Buffy
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: SL9B

[09:51] trichetriche: Thank you! and again email me your stories

[09:51] Buffy Beale: that’s great trichetriche, since the office space
is donated by TechSoup we all should have a story 🙂
[09:51] Buffy Beale: the Nonprofit Commons space 🙂

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: Hey Sarvana, I’m just looking over this
great article, but there are a few corrections we’d like to make, for
ex, you don’t need to be a 501c3 to have a space here. And I’d like to
share a senstence or two about how to get technology products from
techsoup. in
can you connect with the author, and so we can
guide her a tad?

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: sorry, trichetriche
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Did you have more?

[09:52] trichetriche: nope that is all
[09:52] trichetriche: thank you

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: super
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: thank you
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy, yes

[09:52] Buffy Beale: ok Z

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: We have our Wishes Granted space at SL9B

[09:53] Buffy Beale: SL9B is the Second Life birthday celebrations

[09:53] CarmenLittleFawn: nice

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I will have more to share next week on that.

[09:53] Buffy Beale: hundreds of displays of orgs from all over Second Life

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Have you guys attended it before?

[09:54] Nany (nany.kayo): yes

[09:54] CarmenLittleFawn: Welcome back Sarvana

[09:54] Buffy Beale: so it’s a great opportunity for the NPC to get
some exposure

[09:54] Ozma Malibu: yes!

[09:54] Nany (nany.kayo): lol

[09:54] Zotarah Shepherd: I have

[09:54] CarmenLittleFawn: yes I have

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Please feel free to hang out at our space and
talk with people.

[09:54] Serene Jewell: yes, it is a great way to see some of the
wonderful things going on in SL

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: It is a great way of connecting and showing off.

[09:54] Dancers Yao: yes…what are the dates?

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: I am looking for the site

[09:55] Sarvana Haalan: I keep crashing today 🙁

[09:55] CarmenLittleFawn: Welcome back 🙂

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: sorry

[09:56] Sarvana Haalan: did my open mic comment get transmitted before
I crashed?

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber:

[09:56] Buffy Beale: darn that Sar and yes it did

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: yes, we got that.

[09:56] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[09:56] Sarvana Haalan: great

[09:56] Buffy Beale: So Zinnia is there any help needed for the NPC display?

[09:56] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (topping off my coffee… brb 😉

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: SL9B Opening & Keynote 18th June 11am SLT
[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: yes, I could use some help.
[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s talk about it after 11
[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, any other Open Mic?

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: I was so pleased to see that she included the
TechSoup info for local orgs

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: SL9B Exhibits close 27th June
[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: super, Sar
[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!
[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: So thank you all for attending this meeting!

[09:58] Buffy Beale: thanks Z great job

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: I will miss you guys next time because of my
college reunion.

[09:58] CarmenLittleFawn: Thank you Zinnia

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: I am doing a lecture there at the same time as
our meeting.

[09:59] Buffy Beale: livestream it in?

[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all so much and Mentors Meeting is after this.

[09:59] Nany (nany.kayo): Thanks, Zinnia. Interesting topic with a lot
still to be said.

[09:59] Dancers Yao: thanks Zinnia

[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: yes lots more to come!
[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: Here are our links…
[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with
the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons blog:



Google Group:

Google Calendar:


About TechSoup:

Weekly Networking Event: Wharf Ratz, Aloft, Tuesdays, 7-9pm SLT
Aloft Nonprofit Commons (168,223,23)

Monthly Networking Event (3rd Thursday): Common Ground, Plush, 5PM-7PM SLT
Plush Nonprofit Commons (128,229,26)

[09:59] Glitteractica Cookie: ok, bye all. See you next week

[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you and please take care!

[09:59] alebez: Thank you, Zinnia! This was great. And thank you all.
Have a great day.

[09:59] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks Z

[09:59] trichetriche: Thanks

[10:00] CarynTopia Silvercloud: thanks!


Written by: Zinnia Zauber