Transcript of NPC Meeting on “4See” Youth Organizing Game and NTEN

Please find here the transcript from our Nonprofit Commons meeting on March 30, 2012. We featured Amy Sample Ward of NTEN and Nathan Maton , lead developer for the “4See” Youth Organizing Game.

The chatlog follows…

March 30, 2012, 8:30am PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

• 8:30am Introductions
• 8:40am TechSoup Announcements
• 8:45am Mentors Central
• 8:55am Amy Sample Ward on the NTC Conference Online
• 9:05am Nathan Maton on “4See” Youth Organizing Game
• 9:30am OpenMic/ Announcements

[08:30] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ok lets get started folks.
[08:30] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): WElcome to the Nonprofit Commons weekly meetup.
[08:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I’m Rik Panganiban, your community manager , working for
[08:31] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH,
[08:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): hold on there
[08:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): We’ve got a great lineup of speakers for today
[08:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): so we should jump into it as soon as we can
[08:31] VWBPE Coffee Mug 2011: whispers: javajavajavajavajava!
[08:31] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): Hello
[08:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): But of course, we always start w introductions….
[08:32] Blue Mountain Coffee in a Caledon Mug: whispers: Ah, from the Blue Mountains of Jamaica! Wonderful coffee in a Caledon Mug!
[08:32] Blue Mountain Coffee in a Caledon Mug: whispers: Ah, from the Blue Mountains of Jamaica! Wonderful coffee in a Caledon Mug!
[08:32] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Please type into the text chat your real life name, organization, location in the world, URL and twitter handle — if you wish.
[08:32] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida,, @lovefoundation
[08:32] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Ok go!
[08:32] DJ Earnshaw: Don Singleton, Tulsa, OK (DJ Earnshaw, Professor Viper) HelpingTulsa and APCUG, @donsingleton
[08:32] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women
[08:32] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore Maryland,, @PY1US
[08:32] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. now with a blog, twitter, Facebook, all available from the website
[08:32] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL, Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,
[08:32] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, President of Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko
[08:32] Panny Bakerly: Jeanne Booth, Freeport Historical Society, Freeport, NY; @FrptHisSoc
[08:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko | Private Practice (via telepresence) | Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA | | @jerrybuchko
[08:33] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Rik Panganiban, Nonprofit Commons /, oakland, CA , , @betterverse @npsl
[08:33] Par (parhelion.palou): Jerry Welbourn, TechSoup contractor & generic volunteer, north of Baltimore, MD, no URLs or twitter
[08:33] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): Brique Zeiner – Live and Learn in Kenya Int’l – – Selb, Germany
[08:33] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri,, @brenabenoir
[08:33] BELOVEDROX: Roxy Rocker National Service Inclusion Project
[08:33] Abacus Capalini: Chris Luchs, CCCOnline in Colorado, US
[08:33] Chad Mikado: Chad Gobert, National Service Inclusion Project; UMass Boston;
[08:34] nathanmaton: Nathan Maton, 4see educational games, Washginton DC,, @nathanmaton
[08:34] Sister Abeyante: Sister Patrice Colletti, SDS (Sister Abeyante in SL) @sisterabeyante Sisters of the Divine Savior Milwaukee, WI
[08:34] DyVerse Jeffery-Steele (dyverse): Ricky Davis, San Antonio, hiv/aids peer support online DJ for your music needs, @dyverse_steele
[08:34] DyVerse Jeffery-Steele (dyverse): feel free to add me as friend
[08:35] Red (talkwithmarie): Marie C.-talkwithmarie, aka Red., Greater Boston, Girls project/Girl TV/Talk!withmarie,,, @talkwithmarie
[08:35] Suza Falta: hirosato matsuura, npo x it kansai, japan , @hirots,
[08:36] Glitteractica Cookie: SUsan Tenby, Online Community and Social Media Director, TechSoup, San Francisco, CA USA @suzboop @techsoup
[08:36] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): sweet, any more?
[08:38] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): if not, let’s move on to our first agenda item: updates from
[08:38] Kali Idziak: Jessica Dally, Community Voice Mail, Seattle, WA
[08:38] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Glitteractica, are you going to be reporting back today anything?
[08:38] Glitteractica Cookie: Did Bulaklak give you the bullets, Rik?
[08:38] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I don’t think so
[08:39] Glitteractica Cookie: Oh ok, I don’t have program specific updates, but I can say that TSDIGS was a huge success
[08:39] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): woot!
[08:39] Buffy Beale: cheering!
[08:39] Glitteractica Cookie: Our Digital Storytelling Awards ceremony had about 150 ppl in the real room
[08:39] Buffy Beale: wow
[08:39] Glitteractica Cookie: and about 50 in-SL, and 25 on FB
[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: and we will soon come to you all with a full report of the wrap-up and stats
[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: the educational content is available still at
[08:40] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): pics from SL event are up at
[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: Also, we (TechSoup) are going to be at NTC (many of us) so we will see you there
[08:41] Glitteractica Cookie: We’ll also be very involved in the Day of Service voluneteer effofts so watc for our tweets and Facebook updates on the 2nd-4th
[08:41] Glitteractica Cookie: that’s all for me
[08:41] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): fantastic
[08:42] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thanks for all of you that helped make TS Digs a success
[08:42] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): particularly those of you who submitted your stories
[08:42] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ok let move on to the Mentors
[08:42] Buffy Beale: it was great here for the screening and thanks again to Par for setting up the drive-in
[08:43] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): The Mentors are our crack team of volunteers to help out newbies and anyone else here who could use some help in SL
[08:43] Brena Benoir: This morning we have invited Kavon Zenovka and Abacus Capalini to give us an update and highlight of VWBPE
[08:43] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Yes, Par even let me sit in the driver seat
[08:43] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): oh nice, come on down!
[08:43] Brena Benoir: Come on down Kavon adn Abacus
[08:43] Gentle Heron: YAY Kavon and Abacus!
[08:43] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yeah!
[08:43] BELOVEDROX: Learn how to make your volunteer efforts inclusive. If you need assistance the National Service Inclusion Project has many resources available. Thanks Roxy
[08:43] Zinnia Zauber: Rah!
[08:44] Buffy Beale: cheering loudly!
[08:44] Kavon Zenovka: Hey Everyone!
[08:44] Buffy Beale: heyy Kavon
[08:44] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): heya!
[08:44] Kavon Zenovka: Okay – we were asked for an update.
[08:44] Kavon Zenovka: We’re still actually working on the overall numbers.
[08:44] Kavon Zenovka: Hold on
[08:45] Gentle Heron: /me waits to see how these two magicians can cram a 3 day conference into 10 minutes of summary.
[08:45] Kavon Zenovka: Let me tell you where we are from,
[08:45] Kavon Zenovka: Okay
[08:45] Abacus Capalini: lol
[08:45] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): 😉
[08:45] Kavon Zenovka: I’m the program chair for Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education conference
[08:45] Kavon Zenovka: which was held March 15 – 17th
[08:46] Abacus Capalini: I’m the co-program Chair for VWBPE and the Poster track lead and ran the awards, voting, etc. i.e. hole plugger 😀
[08:46] Kavon Zenovka: It was billed as the 5 th annual
[08:46] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International @Humanbe
[08:46] Kavon Zenovka: but that may be a little off
[08:46] Kavon Zenovka: VWBPE seems to be more like it evolving
[08:46] Abacus Capalini: the website is
[08:46] Kavon Zenovka: from the first Second Life Best Practices held in 2007
[08:47] Kavon Zenovka: So it is a fully online conference held mainly in Second Life
[08:47] Kavon Zenovka: We have been trying to do as much as we can in other worlds.
[08:47] LilyAlyn: what was the topic of the conference?
[08:48] Kavon Zenovka: Best Practices in Education in “Virtual Worlds”
[08:48] Abacus Capalini: Be EPIC was the Theme this year
[08:48] Kavon Zenovka: So we also did OpenSim grids
[08:48] Kavon Zenovka: World of Warcraft
[08:48] Kavon Zenovka: Club Penguin
[08:48] Kavon Zenovka: Minecraft
[08:49] Kavon Zenovka: and we have a raincheck for Eve Online which we hope to do within the month
[08:49] Kavon Zenovka: The conference ran for 3 days
[08:49] Abacus Capalini: While the event is hosted in SL we are looking for Education Best Practices in all virtual environments
[08:49] Kavon Zenovka: We do not run 24/7
[08:49] Kavon Zenovka: We found that there is a dead zone that we don’t get participants in
[08:50] Kavon Zenovka: whispers: Thats from 11 pm SL to about 3 am SLT
[08:50] Abacus Capalini: We did 36.5 hours of programming over the 3 days
[08:50] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): a 24 hour conference for several days sounds very ambitious anyway
[08:50] Kavon Zenovka: We based that on the numbers from previous conferences
[08:50] Kavon Zenovka: and that’s something else
[08:50] Kavon Zenovka: it’s all volunteer
[08:50] Kavon Zenovka: something you know very well
[08:50] DJ Earnshaw: besides the volunteers need time to rest
[08:50] Gentle Heron: indeed!
[08:51] Kavon Zenovka: and it is really based on the volunteers we get
[08:51] Abacus Capalini: lol.. yes DJ. 😀
[08:51] Kavon Zenovka: In previous years we had specific language tracks
[08:51] LilyAlyn: so all who attend are considered volunteers?
[08:51] Abacus Capalini: and our transcription team .. Thanks again to Gentle and her crew 😀
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: It is an amazing event and always wonderful to participate and work with such pros!
[08:51] Gentle Heron: LilyAlyn- the workers are volunteers, the workers and organizers and presenters
[08:51] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (I’d encourage a study of the conference program, there’s great stuff in there and it’s possible to track down some of the content)
[08:51] Brena Benoir: Yay Gentle!
[08:51] Kavon Zenovka: and we will have them as long as we get volunteers who can review and coordinatre in those languages
[08:52] Kavon Zenovka: We’re not pros.
[08:52] Kavon Zenovka: We know our mistakes a little too well.
[08:52] Abacus Capalini: The event was also livestreamed by and will be up as an archive, but we don’t have an exact date yet 😀
[08:52] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): volunteers did an outstanding job pulling the whole thing together… it was a great experience as an atendee
[08:52] LilyAlyn: who are some examples of people who present?
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: You are! We get to meet so many wonderful educators and get to share our knowhow!
[08:53] Abacus Capalini: Last year (2011) we had 2,447 unique avies attend over the 3 days
[08:53] Kavon Zenovka: Well we did solicit our Keynotes
[08:53] Kavon Zenovka: so openign keynote was Marianee Maelstrom – Knowclue Kidd
[08:53] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I’m eagerly awaiting the archive 🙂
[08:53] Abacus Capalini: The program can be found at:
[08:53] Kavon Zenovka: then we had Peggy SHeehy and Lucas Gillespie from WoW in School
[08:53] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): love those guys!
[08:54] Kavon Zenovka: then Lisa Dawley and Chris Haskell from 3D Games Lab
[08:54] Kavon Zenovka: as the Thursday opening keynotes
[08:54] LilyAlyn: wow! that’s so interesting
[08:54] Abacus Capalini: We also had Dr. Dede talking about his groups foray into Augmented Reality
[08:54] Kavon Zenovka: on Friday it was Maria Korolov, Dr. Chris Dede and then Gord Holden
[08:54] Gentle Heron: not just talk about, but lots of modeling and hands-on experiences!
[08:55] Kavon Zenovka: Saturday – Sharon Bowers who is doing amazign work with 40 worlds in Activeworlds
[08:55] Abacus Capalini: Dr. Dede teaches at Harvard and focused his presentaion on their
[08:55] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @LilyAlyn, It gave me a real appreciation for how innovative these educators are…
[08:56] Kavon Zenovka: and then Dr, David Gibson who had us all contributing through a google doc – about 50 of us all at the same time typeing and answering questions
[08:56] Abacus Capalini: That was my favorite part D:
[08:56] Buffy Beale: and don’t forget the parade and party 🙂
[08:56] Kavon Zenovka: Yes
[08:56] Kavon Zenovka: Social was such an important part
[08:56] Abacus Capalini: crazy to see that collaboration and watch Google Docs shudder and groan under the strain to keep up 😀
[08:56] Buffy Beale: the dragon parade was soooo funny
[08:56] Kavon Zenovka: I think social was responsible for the conference feeling like a community
[08:57] Buffy Beale: I think it worked Kavon
[08:57] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): we have time for a couple of questions, if there are any
[08:57] Kavon Zenovka: oh and BotGirl’s alt was our pre-awards show
[08:57] Kavon Zenovka: We lightened it up because I think all of our heads were about to explode.
[08:58] Kavon Zenovka: Then we had our awards ceremony
[08:58] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): So there was such a rich environment for interesting dialogue
[08:58] Buffy Beale: Question: are the sims still up to visit, the poster sessions were amazing
[08:58] Kavon Zenovka: We had 2 contest during the conf
[08:58] Abacus Capalini: We also had some speakers from the Smithsonian Institute and their exploration of building in SL as an extension of their Latino Studies program
[08:58] Kavon Zenovka: Yes – please come over
[08:58] Kavon Zenovka: Posters are up until APril 1
[08:58] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): … in many ways it was what might hope a conference experience might be
[08:59] Kavon Zenovka: and we are having a Volunteer Appreciation evening tomorrow
[08:59] Abacus Capalini: Posters will be up until the 1st, they are over on EduCommons Alpha and Bravo
[08:59] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): that’s fantastic
[08:59] Gentle Heron: Better than an RL conference in SO many ways!
[08:59] Kavon Zenovka: So pleace come to it.
[08:59] Kavon Zenovka: *please
[08:59] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ah and just in time, I see amytron, welcome!
[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: I was so proud of the awards my students earned from the University of Washington!
[08:59] Abacus Capalini: Here is the information on the event:
[08:59] Buffy Beale: IM me if you want the LMs I have a folder of them
[08:59] Abacus Capalini: Dear Particpants & Volunteers!

Thank You! You were Epic! We really appreciated all of your dedication, determination, and sleep deprivation. Please come to the VWBPE Appreciation Evening Saturday March 31st from 6 -8 pm on EduCommons Alpha.

You were Epic – but for this event we are asking you to dress Epic!

If you like, please come dressed as in your interpretation of Epic! (Yes, there will be prizes for costumes.) It with be an event with music, dancing and conversation.

We really want to thank you and have you attend an event you’re not working or presenting at! We‚Äôd also like to tell you the numbers we didn’t received from Linden Labs.

When: Saturday, March 31st
Time: 6:00 pm SLT to 8:00 pm SLT
Where: Educommons Alpha /25/
Dress: Epic!
Who: VWBPE volunteers, presenters, and friends
What: A party to honor the incredible dedication and hard work of the people who made the 2012 VWBPE Conference possible.

6:00 pm SLT
[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: It is a real honor to have this event happen in SL!
[08:59] Kavon Zenovka: sorry to span your chat
[08:59] Kavon Zenovka: Thanks everyone!
[08:59] Brena Benoir: Thank you so much for providing us the opportunity to engage in the VWBPE conference and for all of your hard work Kavon and Abacus
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:00] Abacus Capalini: The Appreciation event will run until 8pm SLT or so 😀
[09:00] Buffy Beale: it’s one of the finest events in SL to bring validity that we do real business here so thank you!
[09:00] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thanks for coming to report back to us
[09:00] Sister Abeyante: Excellent! Thanks!
[09:00] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): we really appreciate it
[09:00] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): okay speaking of kick ass conferences
[09:00] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I see that Amytron from NTEN has just rezzed in
[09:00] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): She wanted to give us the news about a very exciting nonprofit conference happening very soon that we can all participate in
[09:01] Amytron Helendale: Hi all! Had some slow rendering on start but think I’m good now!
[09:01] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Amy Ward is membership director for NTEN
[09:01] Glitteractica Cookie: Yaay Amytron!
[09:01] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Amy, can you tell folks about NTC?
[09:01] Amytron Helendale: Sure – did you want me to share now?
[09:02] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): sure
[09:02] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I know your time is limited
[09:02] Buffy Beale: yayy Amy!
[09:02] Amytron Helendale: Thanks! So great to be here to share!
[09:02] Amytron Helendale: As Rik said, I’m Amy Sample Ward and the membership director for NTEN
[09:02] Amytron Helendale: the annual conference, the Nonprofit Technology Conference, is taking place next week in SF
[09:02] Amytron Helendale: but it is already sold out for live tickets.
[09:03] Amytron Helendale: However! We will be streaming the conference online, with exclusive interviews and much more.
[09:03] Glitteractica Cookie: That’s where you all come in!
[09:03] Amytron Helendale: You can see all the details, including the full schedule of streamed content, at
[09:03] Amytron Helendale: Plus – I’ve got some discounts for you all to take 50-60% off the registration price!
[09:04] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): nice
[09:04] Amytron Helendale: If you are already an NTEN member, you can register for just $100 using this code: 12oNTC-43M
[09:04] Amytron Helendale: If you are not an NTEN member, you can register for just $150 with this code: 12oNTC-45NM
[09:05] Amytron Helendale: The coupons are only valid today, so if you’d like to take advantage of the savings, you’ll need to register today. But you can register any day up to the conference if you’d like.
[09:05] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): For those that don’t know, NTC is THE event for nonprofits interested in technology during the year
[09:05] Amytron Helendale: We will have members of TechSoup’s NetSquared program moderating some of the online sessions as the chat moderators, too!
[09:06] Sister Abeyante: That’s exciting. Amytron, do you know if the online conference is accessible to the deaf?
[09:06] Amytron Helendale: Thanks, Rik! Yes – it certainly is. We are sold out, as I siad, at 1750 people in person and have over a hundred already signed up to be there online.
[09:06] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): wow nice
[09:07] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): see you there!
[09:07] Amytron Helendale: I know that we have worked to tackle accessibility options for the live event, but I am not as involved with the online NTC planning. If you email me at I can put you in touch with Anna to find out.
[09:07] Sister Abeyante: Excellent Thanks!
[09:07] Amytron Helendale: Yes, of course
[09:07] BELOVEDROX: How are you making the conference accessible to everyone.?
[09:07] Glitteractica Cookie: She just answered that
[09:07] BELOVEDROX: Thanks
[09:08] Amytron Helendale: Great question – part of making the conference accessible is offering it online so not everyone has to come to SF. For those in person, we have support for people who have told us about any accessibility needs.
[09:08] BELOVEDROX: I know I just the answer
[09:08] BELOVEDROX: Thank you so much.
[09:08] Buffy Beale: Will any of the sessions be streamed into Second Life?
[09:09] Amytron Helendale: Great question, Buffy – I think that Gliteractica may be planning some?
[09:09] Hour Destiny: Will anyone be sponsored to go to the NTC conference?
[09:10] Amytron Helendale: We do provide scholarships – we had many applicants and are able to cover the cost for 50 people
[09:10] Glitteractica Cookie: Amy — I hadn’t checked with Holly about that, but I will see what we can do
[09:10] Amytron Helendale: Glitteractica – great! 🙂
[09:10] Glitteractica Cookie: In Kenzo, can you chat with me about that today?
[09:10] Glitteractica Cookie: The short answer is, if we can find a location to do it, we will do our best
[09:10] Veri Oddfellow: Sorry so delayed, today, y’all. Brad Lewis, Great Strides, Healing with Horses in DAmascus, MD
[09:11] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): well thanks Amy for stopping by
[09:11] Amytron Helendale: You can also follow along on twitter – the hashtag is #12ntc
[09:11] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): let’s talk later 🙂 Evonne @amoration, in SF today 🙂
[09:11] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Thanks Amy!
[09:11] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Everyone take note of that promo code
[09:11] nathanmaton: Hey there Brad
[09:11] Amytron Helendale: Thanks everyone! 🙂
[09:11] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Check out to see if your group is interested in attending
[09:11] Amytron Helendale: If you have questions or forget the discount codes, just email me
[09:11] Glitteractica Cookie: And the techsoup team will be capturing a lot of video to share on our Facebook page and the page of NTC
[09:11] Amytron Helendale: and i’ll hook you up
[09:11] Amytron Helendale: thanks!
[09:11] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks Amytron
[09:11] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): all teh best with the conference organizing, amy and your team!
[09:12] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Okay Nathan can you come on down please?
[09:12] Amytron Helendale: Thanks, Rik!
[09:12] nathanmaton: Hi
[09:12] Buffy Beale: cheering for Natan!!
[09:12] nathanmaton: nice to meet you all!
[09:12] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): hi Nathan
[09:12] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Lets welcome Nathan Maton, lead developer of “4See” to the NPC
[09:12] Veri Oddfellow: *YEAH* 4See rocks!
[09:12] Namaara MacMoragh: Yay Nathan!
[09:12] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Thanks for taking the time to be with us today Nathan
[09:13] nathanmaton: Thanks for rezzing in today and I’m excited to be here
[09:13] Hour Destiny: What’s 4See?
[09:13] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): He’s here to talk to us about his very interesting game project
[09:13] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): lets find out!
[09:13] nathanmaton: Indeed!
[09:13] nathanmaton: Ok, so first a disclosure
[09:13] nathanmaton: This presentation will require lots of hand raising, get your fingers on your hand raising button.
[09:14] nathanmaton: This presentation will require lots of hand raising, get your fingers on your hand raising button.Also let me know and feel free to interrupt as I explain it
[09:14] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): (shoot I don’t know where my gestures are on this new SL viewer)
[09:14] nathanmaton: First as a bit of background…
[09:14] nathanmaton: I work with Jane McGonigal and help her run, formerly consulted with E-Line media and write about educational games for Mindshift
[09:14] nathanmaton: Ok, now about 4see
[09:14] Coughran Mayo: /me loves Jane McGonigal
[09:14] nathanmaton: Take a second to place yourself back in your high school and college experience
[09:14] Glitteractica Cookie: who doesn’t??! Everyone does
[09:15] nathanmaton: Remember a group project you worked on in a club or class?
[09:15] nathanmaton: Was there one person doing 90% of the work?
[09:15] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): usually me
[09:15] Coughran Mayo: me
[09:15] Red (talkwithmarie): hmm yes
[09:15] nathanmaton: Did anyone have a clue what their role on a project was or did you all overlap?
[09:15] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): lol
[09:15] Coughran Mayo: lol
[09:15] nathanmaton: Raise your hand if you can recall a class like that. Now raise your hand if you were the one doing the 90% of the work.
[09:15] Hour Destiny: For some reason, I think of Buffy Beale whenever comes to my attention. 🙂
[09:15] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): ¬∞Õú¬∞ hmmm guess who…
[09:15] Red (talkwithmarie): 98%
[09:15] nathanmaton: hah
[09:15] nathanmaton: 98% :0
[09:16] nathanmaton: We’re making a game to help youth learn team work
[09:16] nathanmaton: There’ve been some amazing examples from game based learning scenarios
[09:16] nathanmaton: by Lee Scheldon (Multiplayer Classroom) and Roger Travis (Pratomime) where the game scenario greatly helped the team work and role separation.
[09:16] nathanmaton: As I’m sure many of you already know!
[09:16] nathanmaton: How many of you have researched team work in virtual words?
[09:17] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): /me raises hand
[09:17] Buffy Beale: lol Hour yes I was very active on Gameful when it started up 🙂
[09:17] Gentle Heron: /me raises BOTH hands
[09:17] nathanmaton: Now let’s turn to what we’re hoping to use this game for.
[09:17] nathanmaton: Raise your hand if your non-profit helps better a local community near you.
[09:17] Sister Abeyante: /me raises hand
[09:18] Buffy Beale: raises hand
[09:18] nathanmaton: how many of you started doing something similar when you were a teenager?
[09:18] nathanmaton: There’s strong research showing that our societal values are formed heavily in our teenage years
[09:18] Hour Destiny: I help a nonprofit that helps the local community.
[09:18] Sister Abeyante: yes
[09:18] Veri Oddfellow: *raises hand*
[09:18] nathanmaton: and that success at a moment when we do something abnormal and work on a project to change our community is pivotal in shaping our values to include civics.
[09:18] nathanmaton: We work with a small non-profit in DC that runs these trainings.
[09:18] nathanmaton: Learn Serve International
[09:18] nathanmaton: They don’t have the capacity to track each team after their program ends.
[09:19] nathanmaton: One group had a young woman from an incarcerated family want to help other kids like her make it through school.
[09:19] nathanmaton: She started a scholarship fund but her partner and her just couldn’t work well together.
[09:19] nathanmaton: 3 years later she’s still struggling towards her goal but needs the team building training as her organization is her and adult advisors who don’t have the time to pitch in what she needs.
[09:19] nathanmaton: We’ve heard dozens of examples like this
[09:20] nathanmaton: So we did some research and found there’s some amazing methodologies out there for teaching these team skills
[09:20] nathanmaton: The one we’ve selected
[09:20] nathanmaton: researched by Marshall Ganz and Ruth Wageman at harvard and talked to Marshall about our project (he architected Obama’s organizing strategy in 2008).
[09:20] nathanmaton: It includes 5 core tenants:
[09:20] nathanmaton: 1) Find diverse team members
[09:20] nathanmaton: 2) Find a common purpose
[09:20] nathanmaton: 3) Clear Boundaries
[09:20] nathanmaton: 4) Clear Roles
[09:20] nathanmaton: 5) Explicit norms
[09:21] nathanmaton: We’re building two game modes to teach these skills
[09:21] nathanmaton: In single player the focus is around two of the five main components of working well as a team:
[09:21] nathanmaton: 1) Have diverse team members and
[09:21] nathanmaton: and finding a common purpose
[09:21] nathanmaton: The players will be given problems and have to meet potential team mates and decide which ones to choose.
[09:21] nathanmaton: They’ll learn a lot more about the players after picking when we show their personalities in addition to their pitches
[09:22] nathanmaton: Then we also are building a multiplayer mode for the other 3
[09:22] nathanmaton: The multiplayer mode will work with 4-12 people and they’ll be put into fictional scenarios and have to solve some problem.
[09:22] nathanmaton: The first scenario we’ve built out is around changing a food policy in a school and we’ve been talking to students, teachers, non-profit professionals and school administrators to build it out.
[09:22] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): very cool
[09:22] nathanmaton: In these scenarios the teams will be trying to get high scores, finishing it faster and with more complete results.
[09:23] Buffy Beale: that’s fantastic
[09:23] nathanmaton: Each scenario will have multiple levels of increasing complexity and will require more and more complex roles.
[09:23] Veri Oddfellow: /applause
[09:23] nathanmaton: For example, in the most basic scenario the person who is the coordinator won’t be able to move but will be able to talk with each of the other players via chat.
[09:23] nathanmaton: and so on…
[09:23] nathanmaton: We’re pretty stoked to be doing this
[09:23] nathanmaton: we’ve got a lot of educators jazzed about the idea
[09:24] nathanmaton: and are running a Kickstarter campaign to help us focus on this project
[09:24] nathanmaton: We need to reach more teachers and educators and non-profits like you to make it happen
[09:24] Veri Oddfellow: Would it be good to send you funding opportunities, too, Nathan?
[09:25] nathanmaton: We’re asking for your support to help us get the word out if this sounds up your alley
[09:25] nathanmaton: And other funding opportunities are definitely great veri 🙂
[09:25] nathanmaton: Aside from creating more employees for you in the future, what’s in it for you now?
[09:25] Hour Destiny: Any interest in doing a SimNonprofit game?
[09:25] nathanmaton: We’re considering doing custom scenarios based off of non-profit’s real work.
[09:25] nathanmaton: and yes hour destiny we’ve been talking to a few folks on second life about a sim nonprofit game
[09:26] nathanmaton: So if this is up your alley please let me know
[09:26] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (hmmm a game about the process of establishing a non-profit?)
[09:26] Hour Destiny: It is. Been planning to mindmap such a thing.
[09:26] nathanmaton: and if you have suggestions, feedback etc please reachout to me here or on twitter or via email
[09:26] Sister Abeyante: If a nonprofit wanted to contract with you for design of a game, how would that occur?
[09:26] Buffy Beale: I’m interested Nate and will contact you
[09:26] Hour Destiny: Jerry, yes. I’ve been thinking about it for months.
[09:26] nathanmaton: Here’s a link to our KS page –
[09:27] nathanmaton: we’ve got some levels on there for non-profits
[09:27] nathanmaton: and we’re also open to talking via email
[09:27] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): So for those who have never developed a game before, is that 16K figure you need covering what?
[09:27] nathanmaton: I’m
[09:27] Veri Oddfellow: Great presentation Nathan, I’m in! Let’s sit down and meet and go over some more ways I can be of assistance, eh?
[09:27] nathanmaton: @Rik the 16k goes to getting an artist, designer and developer to spend all day every day to make this happen
[09:28] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): so consultant time, essentially, got it
[09:28] LilyAlyn: how do you make a living off this?
[09:28] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): is that in the ballpark for a simple online game to develop? that sounds pretty reasonable
[09:28] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Hour, great idea! 🙂
[09:28] LilyAlyn: how could they spend all day every day doing it but still be a non-profit?
[09:28] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): LilyAlyn, people still need to eat!
[09:29] nathanmaton: We make a living by doing all sorts of periphery things to this, we hope that foundations and non-profits will find this of value and support it as it grows
[09:29] Hour Destiny:
[09:29] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Nonprofit doesn’t mean people who work don’t get renumerated for their work
[09:30] nathanmaton: any other questions? Did I miss something?
[09:30] Gentle Heron: Volunteer means that, Rik!
[09:30] LilyAlyn: educate me lol. i dont know much about non profit work
[09:30] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): 🙂
[09:30] Veri Oddfellow: Keep up the good work, Nathan! Sounds tremendous!
[09:30] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Volunteers get renumerated in social capital 😉
[09:30] nathanmaton: Thanks so much for rezzing in to talk about this
[09:31] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): thanks Nathan!
[09:31] Buffy Beale: Nathan you are amazing and all your work at Gameful too but yay so happy to see you here remember how long ago I talked about it to you lol
[09:31] Red (talkwithmarie): Thanks nathan! Awesome!
[09:31] nathanmaton: We’re also looking for researchers if anyone is interested in helping us figure out the effects this will have
[09:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): For sure nathan, best of luck
[09:31] nathanmaton: @ Buffy so glad to hear from ya!
[09:31] Veri Oddfellow: /applause
[09:31] Coughran Mayo: I tried to buy dinner with a bunch of gratitude someone had given me
[09:31] Buffy Beale: 🙂
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:31] Coughran Mayo: didn’t work
[09:31] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Coughran, 😉
[09:31] nathanmaton: and thanks Rik for inviting me here 🙂
[09:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Are there other examples of serious games on similar subjects youcan recommend us to check out?
[09:31] nathanmaton: last time I saw you you were a dragon avatar
[09:31] Jen (jenelle.levenque): You went to the wrong place Coughran
[09:31] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): lol
[09:32] nathanmaton: I’d recommend looking at what Kevin Ballestrini is doing with his latin class
[09:32] nathanmaton: errr give me a second to find that article
[09:32] nathanmaton:…
[09:33] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Coughran & @Jen, Technically, Jen’s correct… you tried to spend that currency someplace that didn’t recognize it 🙂
[09:33] nathanmaton: and look at what Lee Scheldon is doing. I’ve talked to their students and they said team work has never been like this before.
[09:34] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): sweet! We had Games for Change here in February
[09:34] nathanmaton: I saw 🙂
[09:34] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): let’s here it for Nathan
[09:34] nathanmaton: Thanks!
[09:34] Hour Destiny: You can get a license to HeroEngine for free and use it for your game. It’s a MMO engine used for Star Wars, the Old Republic (SWTOR). Allows you to collobrate/build in real time with others. Have a license to it myself.
[09:34] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I personally want to play his game so I can learn how to work in teams!
[09:34] Veri Oddfellow: Yah … go Nathan!
[09:34] Buffy Beale: Great talk Nate thanks you rock it and lol I still can’t believe how small a world it is 🙂
[09:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): heh, I get a sense you’re already levelled up pretty for on that stat, Rik 🙂
[09:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): *far
[09:35] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): we’ll also blog about this meeting for those that weren’t here to learn about “4See”
[09:36] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ok folks we are at the Open Mic / Announcement portion of our meeting
[09:36] nathanmaton: @Buffy aw shucks it is a small world
[09:36] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): oh shoot, I can’t find me file with all the relevant NPC links .
[09:36] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): new computer
[09:36] Buffy Beale: lol I’ll say
[09:36] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): anyone have that they can paste in the text chat?
[09:37] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): oh found it … sort of….
[09:37] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Nonprofit Commons blog:

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[09:37] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thats NPC on the online
[09:37] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Okay who has announcements for us today?
[09:38] Brena Benoir: /me raises hand
[09:38] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): I have a few recognitions to share
[09:38] Gentle Heron: I have two (I always seem to have something to say, don’t I?)
[09:38] Veri Oddfellow: @Gentle …. LOL
[09:38] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Brena, In K and then Gentle
[09:39] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Go ahead Brena
[09:39] Brena Benoir: On behalf of NPC, I would like to thank Zinnia for the many contributions she had made to this community and the wonderful efforts she continues to make to help people engage in our community. Happy Rez Day Zinnia!
[09:39] Par (parhelion.palou): Yay Z!
[09:39] Gentle Heron: YAY Zinnia, happy day and many many more!
[09:39] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Happy Rez Day Zinnia!
[09:40] Veri Oddfellow: YAY ZIN!
[09:40] Zotarah Shepherd: /me coughs
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much!
[09:40] Chayenn: bravo ZZ and thank u for your help to PY1
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: *blush*
[09:40] Ozma Malibu: Happy Day Zinnia! What would we do without you!
[09:40] Namaara MacMoragh: Happy Rez Day Zinnia!! YayY
[09:40] Red (talkwithmarie): happy rez day! woot!woot Z!
[09:40] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): YES! Happy Rez Day!
[09:40] Coughran Mayo: Yay Zinnia!
[09:40] Buffy Beale: yay Z wow what a long 4 years
[09:40] Zotarah Shepherd: Happy Rez Day Zinna
[09:40] Brena Benoir: You’re an integral part of this community and we would not be where we are without your efforts
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: You guys are so sweet! I am so lucky to have such lovely and dear friends here in NPC and SL!
[09:40] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): thanks for the extra shots of color you give us
[09:40] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): Do I smell Rez Day cake???
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you! Did you all get cupcakes for your office?
[09:41] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I ate all mine
[09:41] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): was I supposed to share?
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: lol
[09:41] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): no gluten free ones… 🙁
[09:41] Gentle Heron: /me is sad to say the cupcakes didn’t make it to the office.
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: hehe you guys are awesome!
[09:41] Veri Oddfellow: Tee hee hee … yeah, I scarfed most of mine .. want an extra Rik?
[09:41] Brena Benoir: Come visit Wharf Ratz and CommonGround where you can hang out with us and get to know what’s going on here in NPC and other locations aroudn the world
[09:42] Brena Benoir: done
[09:42] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thanks Brena
[09:42] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): In Kenzo, go for it
[09:42] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Thanks for the cupcakes Z
[09:42] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Just a quick moment to honor the TSDigs entrants whose work we didn’t get to show on Wednesday night!
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: you are welcome!
[09:42] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Love Foundation – BearTrek (Kali) – Elder Voices….so sorry we had a sound glitch on your video!
[09:42] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): PFH – Buffy/Bridges — all of you did a great job creating beautiful stories
[09:43] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): I’m forgetting a few…..
[09:43] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): But thank you, and keep the great stories coming! You can use the #TSDigs hashtag yearround
[09:43] Buffy Beale: DyVerse entered one
[09:43] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Oh yes, 2!
[09:43] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): I showed one of his photos and his short animation vid
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Project Jason
[09:43] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): thank you Zinnia, yes
[09:43] Glitteractica Cookie: I loved the Project Jason one
[09:44] Buffy Beale: yay Ronnie!
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): If you’re in LA anytime soon, let me know – I’d love to get you on camera
[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Ozma’s Project for ASU
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): I’m hosting a big festival April 20-22nd —
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): So if there are arts groups that want to feature work, I’m the curator for this festival
[09:44] Ozma Malibu: Joyce, for the IDEAL ITQ project.
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): and I have room for a few more works – large backdrops, sculpture, yoga art
[09:44] Ozma Malibu: (same one Z just mentioned)
[09:44] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): we’ll post again the submissions from the NPC community to the blog
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): oh yes JOYCE!
[09:44] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Thank you Rhiannon
[09:45] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Awesome entries, wish I had time to show them all – will hopefully have a time when they can all be brought inworld (with cupcakes)
[09:45] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): Thanks Rik for being awesome all around
[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: YES!
[09:45] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): /me nods
[09:45] Ozma Malibu: What I learned is how complex and how much work these videos are!
[09:45] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): I will send out a shortlink soon to the TSDigs show if you want to watch it – it’s also up on
[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Gotta have the cupcakes!
[09:45] Chayenn: sorry i missed the event was busy in DC
[09:46] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo):
[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: Here are the photos of the live event in SF…
[09:46] InKenzo at Amoration (in.kenzo): has the full stream recorded, the sliderocket will be shared soon (after I fix that Elder Voices sound glitch)
[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: there will be many more look for the techsoup and tsdigs tags on flikr
[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: flicke
[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: arrgh
[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: flickr
[09:46] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Okay we should move on
[09:47] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): last announcement from Gentle Heron
[09:47] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): who is always so plugged in!
[09:47] Gentle Heron: well not just me, Rik
[09:47] Gentle Heron: We’re coming toward the end of Brain Injury Awareness Month. We’ve had some amazingly informative and inspiring presentations. I want to thank NonProfit Commons colleagues Chad at NSIP and the wonderful ladies at JAN for participating in this collaborative effort.
[09:47] Gentle Heron: Two more presentations later today, if you have time to attend:
[09:48] Gentle Heron: Noon pm SLT- Anya Ibor (Fearless Nation PTSD peer support group leader) talks about “Brain Plasticity” at Etopia.
[09:48] Gentle Heron: 4pm SLT- Eve Maven (social work professor from Valdosta) talks about “TBI: The Signature Injury of Modern Warfare” and its implications for wounded warriors, their families, and their communities. This will be at Virtual Ability’s Sojourner Auditorium. I can give you a notecard about these two events today.
[09:48] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Anya has also been doing her presentations in the SpotON3D grid too
[09:48] BELOVEDROX: NSIP was happy to participate Thank you Gentle
[09:48] Gentle Heron: The closing ceremony for this month of events will be tomorrow, 9am to 3pm SLT at Etopia. Join us at Etopia Island for music, food, and fun as we celebrate the achievements and stories of individuals with brain injuries. For information on this gala event, please speak with Namaara MacMoragh
[09:49] Gentle Heron: (Namaara is hiding in the back here this morning.)
[09:49] Gentle Heron: And on a different (though of course related) topic, we will be viewing and then discussing a TED Talk by runner Aimee Mullins on the definition of “disability.” That will occur Sunday April 1 at 2pm and Monday April 2 and 11am both SLT on Virtual Ability island. We hope you can join us for these facilitated discussions.
[09:49] Buffy Beale: lol hiii Namaara I see you
[09:49] Gentle Heron: These TED Talk discussions are new for us. Please help us make them a success.
[09:49] Gentle Heron: (that’s all)
[09:49] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Thanks Gentle
[09:49] Chad Mikado: Thanks!
[09:49] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I ws thinking a facilitated TED Talk video showing / discussion thinggee here in the NPC might be great
[09:50] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): if someone wanted to take on that idea
[09:50] Glitteractica Cookie: yes, i agree
[09:50] Zotarah Shepherd: I like the TED Talks I have seen
[09:50] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I often want to talk with people after watching them
[09:50] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): wow, you’d doing your own TEDx in SL?
[09:50] Gentle Heron: Yes, that’s what we thought it might be like, Jerry.
[09:50] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thats a fun idea too
[09:50] Zotarah Shepherd: Great idea
[09:50] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): I was thinking of more of a regular video night here
[09:50] Gentle Heron: We have some folks who are prepared to facilitate the discussion.
[09:50] Glitteractica Cookie: we should talk to the Linden folks on that idea
[09:50] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): brilliant!
[09:51] Veri Oddfellow: Excellent idea … at least for streaming, but better if it was mixed reality
[09:51] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): anyway, this is your community, so anything you want to try and launch , we are all ears
[09:51] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): regular video night would also be good idea
[09:52] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): welcome to SL xandino13
[09:52] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ok I think that wraps it up
[09:52] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Mentors meeting after this?
[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: bye all
[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks again
[09:52] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): bye Glitter
[09:52] Veri Oddfellow: Thanks, Glitter .. y’all are doing a great job!
[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: We are having a lot of fun!
[09:52] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thanks to our special guest Nathan Maton!
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, Mentors at 10
[09:52] Veri Oddfellow: *waves* bye bye all!
[09:53] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): stick around if you need help with anything
[09:53] Glitteractica Cookie: What a fantastic team I get to work with!
[09:53] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): thanks again, Nathan
[09:53] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks again Nathan
[09:53] xandinho13: oi
[09:53] xandinho13: gata
[09:53] Gentle Heron: We also had student guests today from a writing class. I hope you ladies learned a lot!
[09:53] Buffy Beale: yes thanks Nate
[09:53] xandinho13: eu que ro um ma minina para namora
[09:53] JoAnnaGonzalo (xukcorllix): We did thanks!
[09:53] nathanmaton: Thank you all 🙂
[09:53] Celia Koschay (koschayc): Thanks for letting us sit in!
[09:53] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): hi Xandinho13.
[09:54] xandinho13: oi
[09:54] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): is that portuguese?
[09:54] Buffy Beale: running for coffee back in a bit afk
[09:55] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): thanks for coming everyone
[09:55] nathanmaton: Thanks for organizing this Rik.
[09:55] Ozma Malibu: yes thank you Rik
[09:55] Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks for the great meeting Rik
[09:56] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile (brique.topaz): bye everyone.
[09:56] Par (parhelion.palou): xandinho said he wants a girl for dating
[09:56] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): my pleasure
[09:56] nathanmaton: Bye, thanks for talking with me today
[09:56] nathanmaton: ciao
[09:56] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): ah maybe the mentors can help with that!
[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: ha!
[09:57] Ozma Malibu: haha!
[09:57] Par (parhelion.palou): hahaha!
[09:58] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Que lengua habla usted Xandinho?
[09:58] Suza Falta: got many topics, go bed now
[09:58] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): Free Dates at the NPC!
[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Go get your refills and see you at 10
[09:58] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes, brb after java run
[09:58] Par (parhelion.palou): Xandinho hit the road
[09:58] Rik Panganiban (rik.riel): oh man I was just going to hook him up!

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