Pay It Forward – Transcript from Collaborative Community Planning Workshop on Sept 21, 2012

Unabridged Transcript from the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life 5th Anniversary Celebration Active Collaborative Community Planning Workshop we had on September 21, 2012 to create solutions for all our unify goals for the Virtual Vision 2020 – an initiative to develop a plan for the Second Life community.

[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome!

[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: in RL we would say : you cant all talk at once
..but in SL .. yes we can
[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: 🙂
[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: and it works

[20:31] Sister Abeyante yawns and consults her time zone map to wonder
where in the world it is not in the middle of the night…

[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Please have a seat on a cupcake.
[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, we tried to hit all timezones with events.

[20:31] Orange Planer: Middle-east and further east, Sister.

[20:31] Brena Benoir: While the world sleeps, we plan the takeover lol

[20:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol 🙂

[20:32] Brena Benoir: Hello Aunty

[20:32] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Evening Everyone.

[20:32] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): waves

[20:32] Pamala Clift: Greetings all

[20:32] JenzZa Misfit: ( Ive done that … set clock / get up / for
something awesome online at 3 am / )

[20:32] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): Hello Brena

[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome everyone!
[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: I want to give everyone some time to arrive.
[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: Please invite your friends and groups to join us!
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome to the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life
5th Anniversary Celebration
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is a
community of social benefit organizations managed by a community of
volunteers and sponsored by the nonprofit organization TechSoup
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: We have had several events today!
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: I am thrilled that we have this workshop to end
the celebration on.
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for joining us.
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: This is our Workshop Agenda
8:30 PM Introductions
8:40 PM Explanation of Community Planning and Virtual Vision 2020 purpose
8:50 PM Breakout groups discussion of goals and identification of who
might help achieve goal
9:20 PM Presentation of breakout group solutions and strategies
9:40 PM Build partnerships to lead by example
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: Please come on down and have a seat on a cupcake!
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for coming! This workshop is in chat.
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: We hope to share this transcript.
[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: So, I am warning you! I am taking names!
[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: 😉

[20:37] Orange Planer: My number is….

[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: I would like to introduce myself, I am Zinnia Zauber
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: I am the chair of the Nonprofit Commons’ Mentors.
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: I will be our MC tonight
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: or you can call me Julie, your cruise director.

[20:38] Pamala Clift: lol

[20:39] Orange Planer: Oh man are you dating yourself or what.

[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: We have Pam Broviak as our lead for the workshop.
[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: yeah, I am.
[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: We like to start our sessions with introductions.

[20:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Hello everyone – and thanks to NPC
for hosting this workshop

[20:40] CarmenLittleFawn: Hi 🙂

[20:40] Zinnia Zauber: I encourage you to share who you are in RL if
you like, what orgs or groups you are with, and remember
[20:40] Zinnia Zauber: Smiles everyone, smiles!

[20:40] JenzZa Misfit: hi ! I am *filtered*

[20:40] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): da plane da plane

[20:41] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, NPC member

[20:41] CarmenLittleFawn: giggles, Hi I am Lorna Hawkins, with Drive
By Agony/Keeping Kids Safe out of Los Angeles California

[20:41] Sister Abeyante: Sister Patrice Colletti, SDS Milwaukee, WI
*** @SisterAbeyante ***
@TechTips4Usds *** as well as a
volunteer with Virtual Ability, Inc.

[20:41] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko I teach with
Peninsula College and chair the University of Washington’s Virtual
World Alumni org.

[20:41] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[20:41] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, currently in AZ and NPC member

[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): Ricky, DJ DyVerse hiv/aids and
health advocate and blogger
[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): and milk drinker
[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): lol

[20:42] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:42] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pam Broviak – an engineer working in
local government in Illinois and facilitator for the Virtual Vision
2020 community plan

[20:42] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett in Los Angeles, Elder Voices, Inc.
works with human rights and health care

[20:42] Namaara MacMoragh: Gloria Kraegel, nonprofit consultant
(, owner of Etopia Community sims
(, and working with BEST
( in Tacoma WA.

[20:42] Pamala Clift: Pamala Clift- The Roadside Philosopher, author
of Virgin’s Handbook on Virtual Relationships’s+handbook+on+virtual+relationships
and CEO of Virtual Handhold, LLC

[20:42] Zinnia Zauber: Please take a moment to introduce yourself if
you are just joining us.
[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: Great to see so many people from the wonderful
state of Washington!
[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: Just bragging, sorry.

[20:43] fate Paule: Penny Condoll, ED of the Brain Energy Support
Team, BEST, an advocate for individuals with a brain injury, our focus is peer-peer support and

[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[20:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Gramma Fiddlesticks, long time SL’er who
teaches SL skills for several SL school/help groups as well as work
with CF University group in support of their non-profit activities
here in SL.

[20:43] fate Paule: 🙂 i agree zinnia

[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Yay fate!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for introducing yourself!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: This is a wonderful way we find connections and
make new friends!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Have you been reading each other’s profiles?

[20:44] Gramma Fiddlesticks: of course!

[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: Awesome!

[20:45] CarmenLittleFawn: not yet, but I will 🙂

[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: I think our Profiles are a way we share what
communities we belong to in SL.
[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: What do those communities actually say about us?
[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: Let me remind you of our agenda again.

[20:46] Orange Planer: Are you asking for feedback?

[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: We got through the first part!

[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: Orange you will find I ask questions for engagement.
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: So you are welcome to respond.

[20:47] Brena Benoir: I think that depends on the person and their
reason for being here in SL

[20:47] Orange Planer sets up a pair of speakers next to Zinnia’s microphone.

[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: And, I take dark chocolate offerings.

[20:47] Gentle Heron: Zinnia, are they rhetorical or can we respond

[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: They are both.
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: So I am totally fine with you answering them
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: Because I know that I am not being interrupted.
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: I want those answers!
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: hehe
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome Dude!
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: Thanks for joining us

[20:48] Gentle Heron: I find it’s useful to look at others’ profiles
and group lists in SL. That often tells me more on first meeting a
person here than I could learn by first meeting them in RL.

[20:48] JenzZa Misfit: back , sorry .. I’m JenzZa .. alot of you know
me from the production team for Metanomics in SL , the rest is
complicated but interesting …so here’s my number, call me maybe ! *
Jenny Jenny ..8 6 7 5 3 .. 0 .. 9 *
[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: re: see profile

[20:49] PowerchairDude: hello

[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, great answer Gentle!
[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: 9 e 9 nine

[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: lol

[20:49] Sister Abeyante: I agree- our groups are a peek into us- our
interests and priorities.

[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: I already love you Zinnia !

[20:49] Sister Abeyante scans her groups and starts hiding some….

[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: So, with reading those profiles we make discoveries

[20:49] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[20:50] Orange Planer: OMG!

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: Do you make friend requests because of what you discover?

[20:50] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): has no groups so I represent my
dementia very well lol

[20:50] CarmenLittleFawn: mmmhmmm

[20:50] Orange Planer: I just discovered all my friends are….
[20:50] Orange Planer: VOLUNTEERS!

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:50] Gentle Heron smiles at Orange’s discovery
[20:50] Gentle Heron: That also says something about you, who your friends are.

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: ha DyVerse

[20:50] PowerchairDude: lol

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: right
[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: Why do we make friends in Second Life?
[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: Do we want to find a community that we can belong to?

[20:51] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): so I can make them listen to me play music

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: yes! That is true!

[20:51] JenzZa Misfit: .. I am actually suspicious of any group that
would actually have me .. as a member *scribbling notes*

[20:51] Namaara MacMoragh: like-minded firends, professional collaborations,

[20:51] Orange Planer: They’re patient with me when I forget who they are.

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[20:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: some of us make friends here because our
rl contacts are limited.

[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: Ah, very good Gramma!
[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: That is the power of virtual worlds, right?

[20:52] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): because we share similar paths and stories

[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: Yes yes

[20:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Exactly Zinnia

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: this is great!

[20:53] Namaara MacMoragh: I agree with Gramma… for myself I really
don’t get out much and this has been a great way to meet people I like
without the barriers often presented in RL.

[20:53] Dancers Yao: I enjoy meeting people from different cultures…

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: yes!

[20:53] Brena Benoir: Maybe we see something in a profile that sparks
our interest

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: How many of us have met our SL friends in RL?

[20:53] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I have met some. =)

[20:53] Sister Abeyante: Sometimes, friending is about building
community, but more often, it’s about connecting..then after
coonecting, getting to know someone…then after connecting, and
getting to know the person, THEN a sense of communty.

[20:53] Brena Benoir: I have

[20:53] Namaara MacMoragh: I’ve met a couple of them. Not as many as
Coughran. 🙂

[20:53] Dancers Yao: a few

[20:53] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): ummmm i have meet them virtualy
without their avatar

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: I have.

[20:53] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): lol

[20:53] JenzZa Misfit: I am and have been in SL since 06 .. actually
as my RL work and the friends collection is a happy accident and
awesome by-product !

[20:54] PowerchairDude: excure me do you have a problem with your
avatar Pam or is that your avatar, I have had a problem with my avatar
and have figured out how to fix it.
[20:54] PowerchairDude: excure*

[20:54] Brena Benoir: not sure we can even think about competing with
him on that one Namaara

[20:54] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): am i smoke? it looks find to me
PowerchairDude – what do you see?

[20:54] Zinnia Zauber: Are you seeing Pam as a cloud?

[20:54] Orange Planer: Yes, I am.

[20:54] Zinnia Zauber: I see that too.

[20:55] PowerchairDude: yes

[20:55] Par (parhelion.palou): Yes

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: not seeing “all” of her.

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: no

[20:55] Dancers Yao: yes

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: I see her

[20:55] Brena Benoir: I am seeing a missing section 🙁

[20:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[20:55] Brena Benoir: I thought it was me

[20:55] Gentle Heron: yes cloudy with a chance of meatballs maybe?

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: awww

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: same for me Brena

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): let me check what i am wearing

[20:55] Sister Abeyante shrugs and assumed it is just “SL”! LOL

[20:55] Pamala Clift: just a cloud

[20:55] Brena Benoir: rofl Gentle

[20:55] Orange Planer: I’m not worrying about a cloud avatar.

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: lag

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I thought perhsps she was wearing a mesh
clothign item. sometimes those don’t fully rez for me.

[20:55] Orange Planer: That issue will resolve itself.

[20:55] Pamala Clift: just add a new set of eyes and it resets

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: It is okay, she is full of solid things to say!

[20:55] Gentle Heron: Right this is SL… we can move on.

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[20:56] Gentle Heron: There she comes now.

[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Now we can see you!

[20:56] Gramma Fiddlesticks: there she is!

[20:56] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): although it is scary to start taking
things off i tried 🙂 did i get it?

[20:56] PowerchairDude: it happens

[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, I am going to have Pam share with us now.
[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Explanation of Community Planning and Virtual
Vision 2020 purpose
[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please have a seat with JayR.

[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Powerchair for letting me
know I was hollow! 🙂
[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Virtual Vision 2020 is an attempt to
capture the community’s thoughts, ideas, opinions, and goals for
Second Life.

[20:57] PowerchairDude: me either but I just wasn’t sure so I asked
[20:57] PowerchairDude: lol

[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Modeled off the community planning
process that takes place in communities all across the world, this
virtual plan can help the Second Life community define itself, set
goals for its future, and offer a roadmap for success.

[20:57] PowerchairDude: your welcome

[20:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): A community plan helps people
anticipate and prepare for their collective future.
[20:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): More specifically it explains why
the plan is needed, identifies community goals and objectives,
compares options and sets priorities, and suggests actions and
solutions and explores how well they might meet expectations of the

[20:58] Pamala Clift: *raises hand*. Do we have LL buy in as well.. so
they don’t pull the rug out from under our expectations?

[20:59] Orange Planer: The LAST thing you want is “LL buy-in.”

[20:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I had tried to contact them
initially because I believe it would be best to have their
involvement, but I never heard from them at all

[20:59] Gentle Heron: I’d like to ask about background assumptions for
this proposed effort. I see several stated on the website:
A healthy and sustainable economy is important to the success of a community.
An interesting and vibrant culture is important to the success of a community.
Education is important to every community.

Would you please share other assumptions of Virtual Vision2020?

[20:59] Par (parhelion.palou): LL’s involvement in SL is minimal
trending to non-existent

[20:59] Pamala Clift: if they change the platform.. nothing we do will matter

[20:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks can vouch for that Orange!

[20:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Have any of you participated in a
plan in your RL communities?

[20:59] Orange Planer: If I might interject a comment….

[21:00] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- I have (participated in RL community planning)

[21:00] Orange Planer: The problem with LL buy-in is that they change
direction, thus negating anything anybody has done that ties in with
that “buy-in.”

[21:00] Brena Benoir: Employer strategic planning teams

[21:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): go ahead Orange and then I’ll
address Gentle’s question

[21:00] Gentle Heron: Yes, I’ve participated in planning under several
different levels of “community”

[21:00] Zinnia Zauber: I was on our city planning committee.

[21:00] Orange Planer: The result is that plans and organization get
destroyed, and I have direct experience with this.

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If you’ve participated in RL on a
committee you realize the benefit of having the “governing” authority

[21:01] Orange Planer: While LL may change the platform, they aren’t
changing anything NPC does, which is all about communication.

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): unfortunately here I am not sure LL
realizes the benefit of their involvement

[21:01] Orange Planer: LL doesn’t care, Pam.
[21:01] Orange Planer: That’s not what they’re about.

[21:01] Pamala Clift: that is my point.. if this becomes a gaming
platform that eliminates notices.. screws up the marketplace.. locks
down sims.. what do we really hope to do?

[21:01] Dancers Yao: yes…we help with issues of discrimination,
prejudice, gang violence

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I am not sure if it is not caring or
not getting it

[21:01] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:01] Orange Planer: Not care.
[21:02] Orange Planer: Plenty of them “get it,” but business interests
have always driven them towards a different goal.

[21:02] JenzZa Misfit: so true Orange , and we should not be surprised
by that really.

[21:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): anyway, I had thought the plan idea
would have to be abandoned until I saw what happened with SL9B and
realized the community can still plan

[21:02] Zinnia Zauber: Regardless of LL, we need to work together.

[21:02] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That could be Orange

[21:02] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): I have seen the LL culture change
over the years it is no longer sl community based but LL business

[21:02] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[21:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): for example, in our city our
churches create their own community plans without our participation
and it is important for them to still do so even though the city is
not involved in it

[21:03] Ozma Malibu: today has made me optimistic. so much was
showcased, and it all has implications

[21:03] JenzZa Misfit: We have to remember that LL is a company
selling a product ( SL ) to it’s customers ( the community )

[21:03] Gramma Fiddlesticks: byt don’t you all see, as long as they
don’t take down the gird, SL9B proved we CAN still operate as a
communities here and do what we’ve always done.

[21:03] Orange Planer: Pam – when the SL Mentors broke up, LL started
another program, this time independently run, to create mentor groups
that simply fulfilled a number of criteria. For the most part those
groups are not well organized, but at least three of them are, and
they plan and communicate quite well on their own.

[21:03] Gramma Fiddlesticks: *grid

[21:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gramma that is what I had thought
too so figured it would be worthwhile to at least try to develop a

[21:03] Orange Planer: Your experience with SLB only verifies that.

[21:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: People said it couldn’t be done. But
thewe DID DO IT! And it was a great success!

[21:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Orange, if we identify goals
that the community can make happen then it will be successful

[21:04] Orange Planer nods

[21:05] Gramma Fiddlesticks: there’s an old saying about that you know. =)

[21:05] Ozma Malibu: sometimes, people’s voices are heard by going
outside the community, and then the powers that be say “oh – I didn’t
realize that what you are doing, is also good for me.” But this may be
a last chance. They may be hoping that, as the Arizona governor says,
we will all just self-deport. Leave, and then not be a bother. Well,
sometimes I am optimistic.

[21:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we can also try to identify goals
that only LL can do and then it is up to them to decide if our well
being and happiness mean enough to them to take on meeting those goals

[21:05] Zinnia Zauber: We can agree that LL has their issues. I always
say, “Solutions, not excuses.” Which is why we are here!
[21:05] Zinnia Zauber: Great, Pam!

[21:06] CarmenLittleFawn: mmhmm

[21:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gentle – you brought up a great
question – the foundation of the plan really

[21:06] Gramma Fiddlesticks: LL is a business. WE are the “SL communities.

[21:06] Zinnia Zauber: Very good, Gramma. Yes.

[21:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I approached it as we would if we
were in a RL community just changing it to accommodate the virtual

[21:07] PowerchairDude: ooh pictures huh?

[21:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): so i focused on economy education
and culture along with land and infrastructure – all those things are
what supports a RL plan

[21:08] Pamala Clift: Well connection and notices that are so small
and you cant open them to read.. sims locking down components for the
gaming and gltiches that work oppostie the community good? …

[21:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): of course, if anyone brings up
another element it should definitely go into the plan

[21:09] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- a question: can a community thrive and
be vibrant even if some or one of those components you just listed is
missing or weak?

[21:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – it can if the weak element
is not important to that community

[21:09] Gentle Heron: So I’m noting that one underlying assumption is
that virtual communities have the same components are RL ones.
[21:10] Gentle Heron: *as RL ones

[21:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pamala – those are exactly the type
of infrastructure issues to identify

[21:10] Dancers Yao: yet it helps in a RL community to be able to vote
for the people in charge….

[21:10] Pamala Clift: I love this platform.. fight to pull people
together.. and use it for education.. ..but as I am watching the
values of the community being squashed.. .. I have less hope.

[21:10] Namaara MacMoragh: You have a good point, Gentle.

[21:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Gentle – yes I watch RL communities
closely and have watched SL since I Joined – i am amazed by the
similarities – not sure how others have viewed this?

[21:10] Orange Planer: Pamala, are you aware that Linden Research is
embarking on a multi-year, multi-million dollar effort to speed up the

[21:11] JenzZa Misfit: for Steam …

[21:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Dancers – although we cannot vote
for our “overlords” we can suggest a goal of an elected community
representative group

[21:11] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): is the plan taking in
consideration other virtual worlds or just second life?

[21:12] PowerchairDude: ???? your what??

[21:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @DJ this plan is just looking at SL.
Although I am involved in another community plan for another grid

[21:12] Sister Abeyante: Expanding on Gentles comment- would any of us
here say that, perhaps, there are additional components of community
that are unique to SL or virtual worlds?

[21:13] Orange Planer: Sister – distance communication, presence, the
ability to create one’s environment.
[21:13] Orange Planer: Virtual worlds like Second Life/ReactionGrid,
etc., all have this in common.

[21:13] Sister Abeyante nods enthusiastically in agreement… and
suggests “time shifting” and its relationship to RL geography might
also be on the list.

[21:13] Pamala Clift: I would like LL to give us notice windows that
open up.. that DONT have the time stamped on it of the notice right on
top, but just allow us to put the time of the event. Right now half
the time I can not even OPEN attachments.

[21:13] Ozma Malibu: The social cues here are different, but they have
counterparts in RL

[21:14] Namaara MacMoragh: If we operate in virtual worlds with RL
assumptions we miss the opportunities, in my opinion, to build
creative collaborations that can transform what we do in RL.

[21:14] PowerchairDude: yes and I a gree

[21:14] Namaara MacMoragh: I think we need to own our underlying
assumptions first before we can change them.

[21:14] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Pamela those are “viewer” issues.

[21:14] PowerchairDude: agree

[21:15] Pamala Clift: yes it is the viewer issues that I am concerned
about as seems they are working to close other platforms

[21:15] Namaara MacMoragh: Too often we approach what we do here the
way would in RL and thereby limit ourselves.

[21:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): the viewer issues are a type of infrastructure

[21:15] fate Paule: great point Nam

[21:15] Gentle Heron nods to Namaara.

[21:15] Dancers Yao: In SL I think you can explore more imaginitive
possibilities for solving problems in a global community setting…

[21:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Namaara that is a good point – the
counterpart to RL might be here yet if we want to enhance it or take
advantage of the virtual setting that is a goal to set

[21:15] Sister Abeyante: @ Namaara: So you are proposing that VWs have
some fundamental differences.

[21:15] PowerchairDude: I would like to see a system that doesn’t
bombard you with stuff to click on the second u get there too
[21:16] PowerchairDude: better to have a help desk with stuff to click on

[21:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So as we discuss the goals here
perhaps we should also consider in setting the goals and strategy for
meeting them the virtual setting and abilities we have

[21:17] Ozma Malibu: It’s a culture that you come to know by interacting here.

[21:17] Namaara MacMoragh: I think the opportunity to be creative is
greater in virtual worlds along with the abiltiy to truly transend

[21:17] Zinnia Zauber: Goals! Now my signs come in! Yay!

[21:17] Pamala Clift: We all have our groups and our pet projects, we
would like to be able to keep at least what we have developed.

[21:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂
[21:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia has laid out four main goals
(one is open for suggestion) We would like to break into smaller
discussion groups and each group take on that goal

[21:19] Zinnia Zauber: Then we will have Presentation of breakout
group solutions and strategies.

[21:19] Gentle Heron: wait wait…. solutions? do goals have solutions?

[21:19] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes! so in each group you can
discuss that goal, explore ways to meet that goal and who might be

[21:19] PowerchairDude: sometimes

[21:20] Orange Planer: Not all goals have solutions.
[21:20] Orange Planer: Or, realistic solutions.

[21:20] Zinnia Zauber: how about aims?

[21:20] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): if we can’t meet the goal that would
be a conclusion then and the goal would have to be abandoned

[21:20] Orange Planer: Not true.

[21:20] Zinnia Zauber: You can’t hit the target without aiming.

[21:21] Dancers Yao: we can explore possible paths to reaching goals

[21:21] Orange Planer: One can work toward a goal without knowing what
the final solution will be.

[21:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Dancer!

[21:21] Gentle Heron: Paths, yes, that I understand. Paths to a goal.

[21:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and who might help us get there

[21:21] Sister Abeyante likes Dancers’ image

[21:21] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[21:21] Sister Abeyante: Goals>>>Paths>>> Help/Resources to get there

[21:21] Dancers Yao: a mythic journey for the information age!

[21:22] Orange Planer: It’s like trying to figure out how to make a
nuclear fusion power reactor that runs consistently.

[21:22] JenzZa Misfit: ‘ rapid understanding ‘ of virtual worlds &
faster immersion ( in your dreams )

[21:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Sister!

[21:22] Gentle Heron: JenzZa, think GOAL!

[21:22] Sister Abeyante raises her hand: Where did these four come
from to start with? Maybe I missed something?

[21:22] JenzZa Misfit: goal Gentile ! goal goal ! * raising a hockey stick*

[21:23] Orange Planer notes JenZa’s north american bent.

[21:23] Gramma Fiddlesticks: but isn’t that exactly as it should be
Jenza?? When we were “born” (rezzed) in real life, didn’t we have to
leanr to walk/talk/move etc??? Why shoul dit be any different here???

[21:23] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We chose the goals based on the
discussions we’ve had so far – what we’ve heard from the community in
general. Zinnia left one open for suggestion or if people thought one
was not good, we can certainly change it to one we thought was better

[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: thats an unrealistic goal .. imo
[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: right Gramma .. but it took you 18 years right ?

[21:23] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- thanks for clarifying that.

[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: to learn to be a human adult ?

[21:23] CarmenLittleFawn: please state the goals and I agree with sister

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: being an avatar is not a costume …
[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: that you can slap on and go.

[21:24] Gramma Fiddlesticks: yes in RL it did. and in here it took
less than 8 months!

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: OK ..8 months
[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: but it doesnt take 8 minutes .. or 8 days even

[21:24] Orange Planer: Some people less.
[21:24] Orange Planer: Depends on the person.

[21:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The goals are:

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: thats the problem

[21:24] Gramma Fiddlesticks: It took me a week to learn to walk here!

[21:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Improving onboarding of people –
similar to what you are discussing here – how to get people involved
faster and better

[21:25] Gramma Fiddlesticks: people seem to want to be able to do
everythign instantly.

[21:25] JenzZa Misfit: RLADLL ( real life attention doesnt last long ) syndrome

[21:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The next would be helping people
find things related to their interests faster and better
[21:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Gramma – good point – and perhaps
the goal should accept that and find a way to manage it – just an idea
of how it could be approached

[21:26] JenzZa Misfit: .. the person at the keyboard at somepoint ..
gets it .. and becomes their avatar . .if they stick it out long
enough 🙂 but i rarely happens quickly I find

[21:26] Dancers Yao: and encourage exploring…like in RL learning new
skills isn’t always easy

[21:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The 3rd goal is helping people to
build partnerships, networks, relationships – creating an
environment/tools that are conducive to meeting this goal
[21:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Dancer – good add on that one!

[21:27] PowerchairDude: I think it would be a good idea to make a
YouTube video about SL and how to use it .

[21:27] Orange Planer: Been done… for Viewer 1.

[21:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JenzZa – that is so true – so maybe
the goal realizes it takes time and explores how to best handle that
or convey that to the user

[21:27] Gramma Fiddlesticks: agree JenzZa. Once they “get it”, they
stay and become productive, contributing members of SL. So I would
think the “goal” with that is to help them “understand” what SL is all

[21:28] PowerchairDude: thats good

[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: bingo !!!

[21:28] Orange Planer: But we’re up to Viewer 3 now.

[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: yahtzee !
[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: woot !

[21:28] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and the final goal would be open for

[21:28] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have a suggestion?

[21:29] JenzZa Misfit: put 20 of em in a room with JenzZa .. she will
sell them on SL 🙂 *heh*
[21:29] JenzZa Misfit: j/k !

[21:29] PowerchairDude: lol
[21:29] Ozma Malibu: is there a place for “getting the word out”

[21:29] Sister Abeyante: This is interesting. In a sense, all three
stated goals relate to improving the infrastructure (ie how to make it
happen fater/easier). None really relate to the culture aspect
directly… only as it is mediated by the infrastructure?

[21:29] Ozma Malibu: sharing what we’ve learned?

[21:29] Zinnia Zauber: Well, that is a good point.

[21:29] Gramma Fiddlesticks: that’s the 64K L$ question I’ve been
asking and trying to find solutions for and helping people with for
over 5 years Pam!

[21:29] Zinnia Zauber: So I have a suggestion.

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: Sister ! i noticed that too !

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: We are all doing such a great job brainstorming together.

[21:30] Namaara MacMoragh: I agree with Sister Abeyante on that.
[21:30] Orange Planer: There’s one key point that nobody explains to
new residents that completely blows their mind.

[21:30] Ozma Malibu: relating to other groups that aren’t in SL, but
have something in common?

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: Let stay together and cover each goal as a big team.

[21:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – culture could be
incorporated because perhaps enhancing or building culture would help
in the goal for either onboarding or for finding interests

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: only one, Orange? lol

[21:30] Dancers Yao: good idea Zinnia

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: So, I think about how I try to bring people into SL.

[21:30] Orange Planer: It’s that there is a conversion between Lindens
and American dollars and vice versa.

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: I created a set of slideshows to help people.

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: oh , agreed

[21:31] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Doing away with official “greeters” to
help and explain to brand new first time logins was a huge mistake in
my humble opinion.

[21:31] Orange Planer: That creates a connected economy that drives SL.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber: It was part of a project that I did for ASU.

[21:31] Orange Planer: I disagree, Gramma.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber:

[21:31] Pamala Clift: I wrote the book specifically to help with
engagement issues and the evolution of perspective.. Disassociative,
Immersive & Augmentative

[21:31] Sister Abeyante: @ Pam- I wonder… is the vibrancy of a
community (in a vw) then more dependent on infrastructure than,
perhaps, in RL?

[21:31] Brena Benoir: agreed Gramma

[21:31] Orange Planer: Except that no psychologist/psychiatrist backs
you on it, Pamala.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber: When we talk about these goals, we need to
think of how we are actively created community through the action and

[21:31] Gramma Fiddlesticks: sorry orange. If the right people are
doing the greeting, then it works. I worked for 2 years doing exactly
that and many many of those first time people I helped are still here.

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: Rapid Understanding of Virtual Worlds and
Faster Immersion

[21:32] CarmenLittleFawn: ty Zinnia and I agree

[21:32] Orange Planer: So did I, Gramma, but the problem is that there
cannot be enough people who do the job well enough.

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: How do we welcome people to our RL communities?

[21:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – i love that question
because i am very involved in infrastructure in RL – my experience
there is that our communities would completely fall apart without it
working well but no one realizes it or understands how dependent they
are on it

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: Do we make suggestions for great waffle places?

[21:32] PowerchairDude: There is a VA Island that teaches people how
to use SL they should maybe add a video

[21:32] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Perhaps orange. perhaps. It DOES take
special patience and a lot of “people skills” to do the job.

[21:33] Ozma Malibu: one on one mentoring is what works, I think we all agree.
[21:33] Ozma Malibu: and that is also the problem.

[21:33] Orange Planer: And, most people don’t want handholding – they
want to be shown an interface that makes sense right off the bat, and
so they can do things.

[21:33] Ozma Malibu: Oh, well, if that is what you want 🙂

[21:33] Orange Planer: So these days, I show people how to use search,
the map, how to create landmarks, and how to change their avatar.

[21:33] Zinnia Zauber: So people need different solutions to learn to
enter this community.

[21:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I hear the suggestion for mentors or
one on one help from everyone but most seem to think it is not
scalable – what do you think?

[21:34] JenzZa Misfit: you need a legion of pied pipers ( happy
avatars that love SL ) who each take on smallish groups of newcomers
to EXPLAIN and POM POM the important and cool things about being an
avatar. it’s not all about walking or rezzing a prim. THAT .. PLUS an
easier to use interface = growing community

[21:34] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Seems to me that many come here expecting
WOW and find instead, small town America, where they have to actually
spend time learning..

[21:34] Zinnia Zauber: Okay cheerleaders and fun buttons.

[21:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): is there an example of this
occurring in RL we can follow? welcome wagons? etc?

[21:34] Sister Abeyante thinks of the “each one-teach one” philosophy
of the Laubach Literacy Movement (USA)

[21:34] JenzZa Misfit: .. course you need to knock out the unsavory
aspects as well .. which will never happen.

[21:34] Zinnia Zauber: I agree, JenzZa

[21:35] CarmenLittleFawn: mentors pam, one on one works but can wear u out

[21:35] Ozma Malibu: yes, each one teach one, exactly right

[21:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @CArmen – that is the conclusion
that is usually reached even though most think one on one is best

[21:35] PowerchairDude: lol we bake a pie and bring it over to their
house and welcome them to the community I woudl like to have greaters
for the communities…

[21:35] Zinnia Zauber: Wouldn’t that be cool if everyone fostered someone new?

[21:35] JenzZa Misfit: Gramma TRUE .. about the learning .. but .. its
like the horse and water right ? you cant make him drink .. but you
CAN salt the oats and make him thirsty , yes ? ….

[21:35] Zinnia Zauber: Pay it forward.

[21:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol Power

[21:35] Ozma Malibu: and making this scalable hasn’t happened. I think
it’s that the personal is so important.

[21:35] Orange Planer: OK, show of hands – how many people here use
the Viewer 3 interface?

[21:36] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I spent 2 years on the old teen grid
working with kids who had been “on their own” there for some time.
They were gratefull for the teaching.

[21:36] JenzZa Misfit: so once someone kind of GETS it and sees a
reason to LEARN .. they willingly learn

[21:36] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That seems true JenzZa

[21:36] Zinnia Zauber: So, we know people want to learn more, right?

[21:36] PowerchairDude: yes

[21:36] CarmenLittleFawn: to much trouble viewer 3

[21:36] JenzZa Misfit: oh yes .. people are people in RL .. see ? so
if they are motivated .. they act !

[21:36] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I use Viewer 3 ONLY for mesh uploads and
to send things to the marketplace. Otherwise I revert back to Pheonix.

[21:36] Zinnia Zauber: Viewer 3 is great to teach with.

[21:37] PowerchairDude: which one is that?

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: lol .. I am a developer and would you believe I
am on viewer 1 !! as we speak .. LOL

[21:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I use the most up to date viewer and
sometimes firestorm

[21:37] PowerchairDude: I am using Firefox

[21:37] Orange Planer: I humbly suggest that if more people knew what
the V3 interface looked like, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

[21:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[21:37] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I’d belive it jenzZa!

[21:37] Zinnia Zauber: okay

[21:37] PowerchairDude: oops firestorm
[21:37] PowerchairDude: lol

[21:37] CarmenLittleFawn: Singularity here

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: Orange .. is that good or bad ?

[21:37] Orange Planer: Firestorm has a V3 interface, but it’s optional.

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: v3?

[21:37] Gentle Heron: Viewer 3 here

[21:37] Zinnia Zauber: so, viewer smuiwer

[21:37] CarmenLittleFawn: some times firestorm

[21:38] Orange Planer: My point is this

[21:38] CarmenLittleFawn: viewer 3 only when forced

[21:38] JenzZa Misfit: oh i have the latest firestorm .. I just rarely use it

[21:38] Zinnia Zauber: The viewers will always change.

[21:38] Orange Planer: Viewer 3 works more like a Windows application;
right-click vertical menu, simplified menu structure, keeps the number
of options down to a dull roar.

[21:38] Gramma Fiddlesticks: of course they will Zinnia!

[21:38] Zinnia Zauber: They will always get better (or worse).

[21:38] Orange Planer: That’s as it should be for any new resident.

[21:39] Zinnia Zauber: New folks will start with what LL gives them to download.

[21:39] Orange Planer: Put your mouse over something, you get an info button.

[21:39] Sister Abeyante: I am thinking that, as far as the
infrastructure component of a viewer (which I agree, is certainly a
fundamental infrastructure!), it needs to Either so easy to learn
ithat ts intuitive… or there is a standardized method to learn the key

[21:39] JenzZa Misfit: when I am doing RendeZvous development testing
.. old viewer 1.23 .. is the most stable of all ..especially when
testing new scripts *shrug*

[21:39] Orange Planer: Yes, but oldbies tend to stick with what they know.
[21:39] Orange Planer: And that means we’re all oldbies… and most of
us are not using V3.

[21:39] Zinnia Zauber: Key Components!

[21:39] Orange Planer: So we’re having the same old discussion.

[21:39] PowerchairDude: what is new with v3? r u missing out if using V1?

[21:39] CarmenLittleFawn: yes sister

[21:39] Orange Planer: Yes, PowerChair.
[21:39] Orange Planer: Development on Viewer 1 stopped a couple years ago.

[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: So, those key things we need to help make
easier to tackle.

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: I am , Powerchair .. missing out on some
features right ? but not ones I need … so not really
[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: web on a prim / cant see it ..etc

[21:40] Pamala Clift: I am in V3 and have taken the classes for the
new AI construct

[21:40] Orange Planer: Can’t do mesh.

[21:40] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I’ve used several different viewers so
that I can answer questions from my students about where things are.
But my personal use is still 9and prolly will be for a long time) a
viewer 1 style viewer such as Pheonix

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: or mesh .. * again .. do not need it for my work *

[21:40] Orange Planer: Except that lots of avatars are walking around
in mesh outfits.

[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: Great, that leads into our next goal…
[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: Engaged Discovering of Your Interests and Pursuits

[21:40] Sister Abeyante: RE: key components to learn- that canshift us
away from infrastrcture, to…”education” (another of the components
Pam indicated earlier)

[21:40] Par (parhelion.palou): and mesh saves me a lot of prims in landscaping

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: but I do not go anywhere .. I am always on my
island working lol

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: So how you can create and find interesting things here.

[21:41] PowerchairDude: thats good

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: We use different viewers to do it, but the
world is the same.

[21:41] Gramma Fiddlesticks: People have to be encouraged to go ‘exploring”.

[21:41] CarmenLittleFawn: encouraged to explore yes

[21:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): LL has set up the destination guide
for this, but is there another method to develop to get people
somewhere they like fast?

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: great how do you do that?

[21:42] Ozma Malibu: Is “engaged discovering of interests and
pursuits” motivational enough to get people past the chaos?

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: Do you hand out Landmarks?

[21:42] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): Firestorm here. My alt uses
viewer 3 so I am familiar with it

[21:42] Gramma Fiddlesticks: open up the big map, scroll around, look
for a spot and teleport there!

[21:42] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The destination guide doesn’t seem
to work well for newcomers does it?

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: Right, Ozma! Finding out their mission!

[21:42] Orange Planer: Sure it does, Pam.

[21:42] Sister Abeyante: @Zinnia- I find most new folks REALLY appreciate LMs.

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: yes yes

[21:42] Namaara MacMoragh: I post things of interest on our community
calendar for Etopia.

[21:43] PowerchairDude: I was just in the Market Place and was reading
about Mesh lol I would hate to have a mesh suit looking at how some
viewer cant even view Mesh I would hope they get a blured avatar

[21:43] Zinnia Zauber: I like to ask people a million questions and
give suggestions.

[21:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: LM’s work well. And it’s easy to explain
how they are used. Even to the newest of the new.

[21:43] CarmenLittleFawn: LM, yes and engaged discovering

[21:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Orange – so the guide has been
shown to be helpful? is that then for avatars of all ages?

[21:43] Namaara MacMoragh: That allows subscribers and residents to
see things they may not find on the destination guide or SL events

[21:43] Zinnia Zauber: Do you search groups to get ideas?

[21:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: sometimes Zinnia.

[21:43] CarmenLittleFawn: search yes

[21:43] Pamala Clift: I think people don’t READ much any more.. I
think they want it in Videos

[21:43] Orange Planer: If I’m shown a list of possible destinations
that I can look at by category and is simple to navigate… and I see
new residents appearing at all the places there, then I think it’s
safe to say it works.

[21:44] Sister Abeyante: @ Zinnia- I have never searched groups to get
ideas. But, I have used SEARCH function to find locations.

[21:44] Ozma Malibu: Have people start joining groups right away I think

[21:44] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Maybe there could be an interest
survey you take on their site and it builds a little tour for you? (my
kids did this for me in the makeup store today to find a fragrance!)

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: When you arrive to a new town, how do you find
a connection?

[21:44] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Orange

[21:44] Gramma Fiddlesticks: explain to people what all those green
dots are on the big map. =))

[21:44] Orange Planer: That’s a harder question, Zinnia. People don’t
know how to SEARCH yet.

[21:44] Sister Abeyante: When I arrive new to a town, I find a tour guide!

[21:44] CarmenLittleFawn: search functions yes

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! I like that idea, a survey and then custom guide.

[21:44] Orange Planer: And that’s the failing I see.

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: Great, Sister!

[21:44] Pamala Clift: I wont take a survey. sigh..

[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: Well, think about Amazon giving you suggestions.

[21:45] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Sister – or i look for the visitor center!

[21:45] Par (parhelion.palou): Nobody could ever manage to keep a tour
database updated

[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: if you like this sim, you might also like this sim.
[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: people who visited this sim, also like this and
this and this

[21:45] Par (parhelion.palou): Amazon controls its inventory …
nothing in SL is controlled

[21:45] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It would have to be a tour that
would automatically generate based on questions you answer

[21:45] PowerchairDude: I have found it to be ill programmed lol like
the program was not thinking aabout um the average Joe lol everthing
is like that sometimes

[21:45] Sister Abeyante envisions AI (“Bob the Monkey” of Virtual
Ability fame) who replies to a “What do you like to do?” with a couple
of LMs on that topic

[21:45] Pamala Clift: when coming into a new area, but.. I will take..
when I go into a gaming evenvironment something that defines my
character.. questions and choices typifying your presonality of your like the role play games

[21:46] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Par that is a problem updates sl is moving so fast

[21:46] JenzZa Misfit: What I find about SL to be so different is
this. There really are NOT .. communities of people , neighborhoods,
towns, cities. Its all individuals who own their own land .. large or
small. Unless there is an event going on .. many /most SIMS .. you go
there .. no one there .. even my own. not like RL at all in this

[21:46] PowerchairDude: my text to speech is crashing

[21:46] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Oh please! Let’s NOT do stuff like Facebook! =

[21:46] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia that reminds me of the
suggestions you see at the end of a blog post you read

[21:46] Orange Planer: Too late, Gramma!

[21:46] PowerchairDude: fixed it

[21:46] JenzZa Misfit: it is the EVENTS and planned GATHERINGS .. like
the one I was at earlier for this event .. the dancing .. the
chatting. THAT is the community .. its not about an area .. it doesnt
matter where it occurs.

[21:46] Orange Planer: It’s part of the “My Second Life” web pages!

[21:46] Gramma Fiddlesticks: as far as profile sgo orange, you are right.

[21:46] Zinnia Zauber: So, if communities that were alike worked
together then the could help build more connections.

[21:47] Gramma Fiddlesticks: we don’t need anpother Facebook. Let them
do their thing and we’ll do SL.

[21:47] JenzZa Misfit: Zinnia ! BINGO !

[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: wow that leads right into our next goal!

[21:47] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Zinnia

[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: Productive Building of Partnerships and
Professional Relationships
[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: Wow, how did that happen?

[21:47] JenzZa Misfit: like Stone Soup !

[21:47] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[21:48] Sister Abeyante: Back in the early days of “do it yourself web
sites” there was a “web ring”- so if you were on a site about one
topic, there was a list of other sites (web rings) on the same topic

[21:48] Ozma Malibu: Aha!

[21:48] Zinnia Zauber: web rings, yes!

[21:48] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:48] Orange Planer: But it has to be kept up by an organization.

[21:48] Zinnia Zauber: how could we do something like that here?

[21:48] Orange Planer: Easily.

[21:48] PowerchairDude: oh no facebook if it is going to be like just
throwing comments at everyone and the end that would suck

[21:48] JenzZa Misfit: Zinnia ! cuz .. youre wearing your ‘ connect
the dots ‘ HUD .. right ?

[21:48] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): perhaps there is a tools someone
coudl create in SL to allow people to input their site if it is
related and then others can access it to get similar sites

[21:48] Sister Abeyante smiles at Orange the Programme…

[21:49] Orange Planer: Some group creates an organizational structure
that goes around and asks for people to be part of it.

[21:49] Zinnia Zauber: I am!

[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: OR .. PAM .. heres an idea : just a webpage of
some sort …..
[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: think outside the prim !

[21:49] Zinnia Zauber: there you go

[21:49] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes those are all great suggestions!

[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: a webpage ::: where SLURLS and pix and descriptions etc

[21:49] Par (parhelion.palou): Even if LL created the tool and
advertised on their site, the majority of people in SL would never
know about it. There’s no mass media.

[21:49] Orange Planer: Then that organizational group sets up
location(s) in SL where people can go to choose different topics,
which gives them info to web pages/LMs of places.
[21:50] Orange Planer: That organization has to keep up the
information so it’s accurate.

[21:50] PowerchairDude: I web ring

[21:50] JenzZa Misfit: LL is not going to create tools for us .. lol
.. trust me on this

[21:50] PowerchairDude: I would like to have a SL ring

[21:50] Zinnia Zauber: We need to do it ourself!

[21:50] Orange Planer: Or… each group that decides to participate is
asked to self-manage….

[21:50] Par (parhelion.palou): A resident created tool will only reach
a few percent of SL

[21:50] Orange Planer: And is monitored for updates, if necessary.


[21:50] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[21:50] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[21:51] Sister Abeyante: @ Par- unless it is so good it “goes viral” LOL

[21:51] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): that was so funny i lost the thought i had lol

[21:51] Zinnia Zauber: Well, so do you guys believe that part of
planning a community is to lead by example?

[21:51] Gentle Heron: I can say that updating a list is really really
hard work. Virtual Ability maintains the Path of Support– a virtual
visual demonstration of the peer support systems available in SL. Eme
and her crew have identified over 120 of them… but figuring out
which ones are really valid, accurate, active… that’s so hard!

[21:51] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[21:51] Par (parhelion.palou): There’s no way for anything to go viral
in SL … it’s a group of thousands of independent groups who don’t
know other groups exist.

[21:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: You might just be surprised at how
information like that can spread though the various groups Par. Just
look at what happened this time last year when the news went around
abouthe mass ejection of members of the Builders Brewery group.

[21:52] JenzZa Misfit: exactly Parhelion

[21:52] Par (parhelion.palou): Sorry, never heard of that

[21:52] Zinnia Zauber: So, what are the things we can do. On our own
to start building these connections.

[21:52] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Its almost like we need a type of
chamber of commerce

[21:52] Ozma Malibu: Are you organizing the structure? Are you saying
it’s us? Because if it’s people, then things don’t have to be so

[21:52] Zinnia Zauber: A chamber of awesomeness!

[21:52] Orange Planer: Or….

[21:52] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[21:52] Pamala Clift: yeah I volunteered to be ejected first. and that
crashed the

[21:52] Lucinda Lavender: :))

[21:53] CarmenLittleFawn: yes like the chamber idea Pam

[21:53] Zinnia Zauber: So, does this seem overwhelming?

[21:53] Orange Planer: We set up a system that people modify
themselves, and we DON’T monitor it.

[21:53] Gramma Fiddlesticks: 17,000 people were ejcted from the BB
group by a membership bot script that went awry. within a week
thousands of those people had rejoined the group becuase of other
groups letting their members know the problem happened.

[21:53] Orange Planer: Let there be dead links.

[21:53] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): is that a group then that could be
elected by the grid? or is that too “organized” for what we want?

[21:53] JayR Cela: @ everyone listening / untill the bone headed folks
at LL embrace Hper-Grid and Open Sim / all this talk is a waste of
time / with in a few years SL will be just like AOL / *GONE Like The
WInd * / *POOF!!* 🙁

[21:53] Zinnia Zauber: that is great Gramma!

[21:53] PowerchairDude: a library with a SL ring would be nice

[21:53] Ozma Malibu: It’s not overwhelming if we remember the “each
one teach one” idea

[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: what does : by the grid mean ?
[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: you mean ALL of SL ?
[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: that cant be done. period.

[21:54] Zinnia Zauber: great Ozma

[21:54] Orange Planer: JayR – you doomsayers have been saying that for years.

[21:54] Par (parhelion.palou): Copyright problems keep SL away from
the hypergrid

[21:54] Orange Planer: And there are OTHER issues with a hypergrid –
like who owns your inventory?

[21:54] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JenzZa – it could be by whoever
wants to vote in SL

[21:54] JenzZa Misfit: SL is heading for the Steam portal … think it
will be around for a long … LONG time 🙂

[21:54] Gramma Fiddlesticks: copyright problems are an issue with all
the girds from what I can see Par. =

[21:55] Par (parhelion.palou): That’s right … no agreed way to
transfer between them while respecting copyright

[21:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JayR whatever we do here is a
learning experience that can translate to any other virtual setting

[21:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: *grids

[21:55] Par (parhelion.palou): LL is big enough to be sued … the
others aren’t … yet

[21:55] JenzZa Misfit: and how would you get that word out there Pam ?
there is no way to inform all of SL unless you want to pay 1500 US for
a 1 time log in screen msg by LL

[21:55] Ozma Malibu: An election? Interesting idea.

[21:55] Zinnia Zauber: Do you believe that one person can make a difference?

[21:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I do Zinnia.

[21:56] Par (parhelion.palou): To a community, yes

[21:56] PowerchairDude: Did links would be just reported by the users
which will sent to the person in charge of the group they are in

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[21:56] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): PR has come up a few times – is that
another goal to look at? how can we establish a communication
structure that reaches the most people in SL?

[21:56] Orange Planer: time for bed. Tomorrow’s another day.

[21:56] PowerchairDude: I would also like to see a system that tells u
the last day that link was used

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Take care, Orange.

[21:56] Gramma Fiddlesticks: G’night orange. =)

[21:56] CarmenLittleFawn: nite orange

[21:56] Ozma Malibu: clearly one person can make a difference
especially when other people take what the first person has taught,
change it perhaps, send it on

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent Ozma!

[21:57] Sister Abeyante: Is there a HUD of some sort that one can
easily load LMs into? Because, if so, we could get that into the SL
Market place (free) and disseminate it person to person, and then
invite people and groups to “load” it with a few themed LMS that ar
etheir faves.

[21:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Good suggestion Sister

[21:57] Pamala Clift: I as well must say good night all.. these
graveyard shifts are zapping any clear thoughts I could contribute

[21:57] Sister Abeyante: Replicating the “empty” hud would allow folks
to create their own selections, and have their, or their groups name
on it.

[21:57] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Ozma “Paying Forward” does work. But it’s
a ‘skill” that has to be taught and encouraged to others.

[21:57] CarmenLittleFawn: yes very good idea

[21:57] PowerchairDude: yes

[21:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, it is late here too! I think we
will be wrapping up for tonight

[21:57] Zinnia Zauber: These are amazing ideas!

[21:58] CarmenLittleFawn: night Pamala

[21:58] PowerchairDude: VA has a HUD

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: We have so much to share!

[21:58] Gentle Heron: Lots of HUDs like that… art museums have one,
hunts have them…..

[21:58] Ozma Malibu: In this case we’d be paying forward the concept
of the people powered infrastructure

[21:58] Sister Abeyante: Ok… so the structure or mechanism is out there.

[21:58] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Indeed!

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: We have to be the leaders of what can be.

[21:58] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): wants a power shopping hud

[21:58] CarmenLittleFawn: mmhmm

[21:58] Gentle Heron: Gramma, maybe that’s the solution to changing
ALL of our communities, RL and SL… teach “paying it forward” as a
moral imperative.

[21:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Make sure to connect with each other
and keep working on community! And if you want to follow the plan’s
progress it will be on the website
thanks for your input and ideas and time!

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, I think so.

[21:58] Sister Abeyante: It would then be a “people task” to make the
huds themed and fun to distribute. “Here’s your collection of my
favorite places to fly airplanes!”

[21:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I whole heartedly agree Gentle. But I
also know it doens’t happen overnight. It has to be said again and
again and again.

[21:59] Zinnia Zauber: It encourages responsibility and respect when
you Pay it Forward.

[21:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks: yes Zinnia!

[21:59] Dancers Yao: @pam…yes I think that is a good goal…!

[22:00] Ozma Malibu: I love it the themed huds, but I think we need to
start with the simplest idea possible. I don’t know what that idea
would be though.

[22:00] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! Dancers! Yes!

[22:00] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[22:00] Gramma Fiddlesticks: and you all may think I’m naive, but the
good old “Golden Rule” also still works!

[22:00] Zinnia Zauber: right

[22:00] CarmenLittleFawn: yes it does

[22:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It is important to support your
fellow man – one kind word or deed can sometimes make a huge
difference to someone

[22:01] Zinnia Zauber: yes!

[22:01] Gramma Fiddlesticks: smile to a stranger and see!

[22:01] Dancers Yao: agree…

[22:01] JenzZa Misfit: just sayin … I knew a group that tried that
HUD idea once .. the pass it on .. add to it .. pass it on idea .. it
ended up loaded with adult content LMs and passed around for 2 years
and all pointed back at the original creators of the idea

[22:01] JayR Cela: Untill LL can actually fit more that 40 or so
avatars conferrable y onto a grid at one time / increase prim count /
and finally fix cross border sim crossings it’s like whipping a
deaying horse

[22:01] Zinnia Zauber: How can we end this workshop with a great set
of ideas to help push forward on our goals?

[22:01] Ozma Malibu: how could the idea of paying it forward be linked
to the concept of an infrastructure made up of likeminded groups?

[22:01] Gramma Fiddlesticks: = that’s sad JenzZa, =

[22:02] Par (parhelion.palou): most of SL rarely sees 5 people on a
region at once

[22:02] JenzZa Misfit: just be careful what you do .. this is SL ..
not RL .. and it is huge and full of ‘ everyone ‘

[22:02] Ozma Malibu: How can we inform people in SL of what we want to do?

[22:02] Zinnia Zauber: Some of the things we have discussed take
infrastructure and it sounds like communication is a big part of it.

[22:03] PowerchairDude: I’s there a LM Hud that can only be approved
of by these orgs, and they can receive ideas and add those later

[22:03] Ozma Malibu: Communication is the virtual infrastructure

[22:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I think it could be helpful if
people went back to their communities and discussed if they thought a
centralized group would be helpful

[22:03] Par (parhelion.palou): We can’t inform everyone in SL of
something. Nobody can.

[22:03] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[22:03] Ozma Malibu: We can’t inform everyone, but some ways of
letting people know may work better than others.

[22:03] PowerchairDude: soo true

[22:03] Zinnia Zauber: We need to spread the word and turn it into action!

[22:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And if people could explore the idea
of a central method of communication that could reach out to most of

[22:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: we can’t in one day par. But over time we
can reach a huge percentage of them.

[22:04] Zinnia Zauber: yes, I think that is worth us all looking for.

[22:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we could all pledge to write one
blog post exploring one of the ideas discussed here today

[22:04] Zinnia Zauber: Great idea!

[22:04] Ozma Malibu: Pam seriously that is a good idea. Because we
would all reach different communities.

[22:04] PowerchairDude: will I would like a joint community HUD the end for now

[22:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: will there be a transcript of this
meeting posted soemwhere??

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber: Right! We need to find ways to unite.

[22:05] Gentle Heron: That’s the start, Gramma!

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, I will post it on the Nonprofit Commons blog

[22:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes and we would get even more input
from comments on the posts

[22:05] Ozma Malibu: I think we need to think of solutions that we can
arrange, by ourselves.

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber:

[22:05] JenzZa Misfit: you would be better served I think to have your
‘ go to for info ‘ place be outside of SL .. a website .. and promote
THAT in SL … that is what is familiar to all people who want to be
avatars .. getting info on the very web itself.

[22:05] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Thanks. I don’t blog myself, but I know
folks who do and if I can point them to a place to read, it will help
a lot.

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[22:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Good idea Gramma

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: I am so pleased you all joined us today!

[22:06] Ozma Malibu: I don’t blog either, but I have been thinking
“blog post” all night.

[22:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes thanks to everyone!

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: I want to thank Pam for sharing her knowhow
about community planning!

[22:06] Dancers Yao: a central communication is important….like
today in LA the traditional news on TV had everyone watching for the
Endeavor space shuttle to land…so maybe we can use the virtual TV on
the Web somehow?

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: And, I want to thank YOU!

[22:06] CarmenLittleFawn: yes 🙂

[22:06] Ozma Malibu: So what is the next step?

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: You all have wonderful ideas!

[22:07] Namaara MacMoragh: thank you … and everyone for your great
input in the conversation

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: You can make the difference in the world.

[22:07] Dancers Yao: yes thank you Pam and Zinnia

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s agree to keep making plans to meet again
and share how we can move forward.

[22:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – myself and others working on
the plan will continue to meet with communities in SL.

[22:07] Ozma Malibu: yes thank you

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: In the meantime, Pay it Forward!

[22:07] JenzZa Misfit: see ? and here in SL .. we CAN all talk at once
! and we DID ! and it works 🙂 you cant do that in RL .. why ? cuz
youre not typing in RL .. youre talking 🙂

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[22:07] PowerchairDude: it was cool

[22:07] Gramma Fiddlesticks: something we all should keep in mind,
“social change” (and I think that is what we are talking about here)
takes time. It won’t happen in a day. But we have to begin somewhere
or it will never happen.

[22:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Eventually we will take what we have
heard and the input on the surveys online and develop a plan then put
it out for everyone’s reveiw

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Please remember that you are all welcome to all
our Nonprofit Commons Meetings!

[22:08] CarmenLittleFawn: ty Zinnia

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Please get the gift on top of the big cupcake
to get info about the Nonprofit Commons.

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, that would be great Pam!

[22:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If anyone wants to work on the plan
just IM me – we can use volunteers for meetings or working on the
actual plan!

[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: I remember … 6 years ago at a Linden Town
Hall meeting .. I spoke up and said : someday .. educators and non
profs and who knows what all .. will be in SL .. and figure out how to
use it for the future and for the good ! and all the porn dorks
laughed at me and called me nuts.
[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: *heh*
[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: whos nutty now ?

[22:09] Zinnia Zauber: Please remember to update your profiles, help
people, and make new friends to connect the dots!

[22:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[22:09] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Yes JenzZa! =))

[22:09] Par (parhelion.palou): At least there are some nonprofits and
educational groups left

[22:09] Gramma Fiddlesticks: thanks for having this meeting Zinnia and
pam. And thanks for allowing me to prattle on. =)

[22:09] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for joining us! And, like I
always say… you can’t have community without UNITY!

[22:09] Gentle Heron: And new ones coming in, Par!

[22:10] JenzZa Misfit: ( p.s. all those porn dorks bought my
RendeZvous eventually so they could walk and hold hands * double heh*)

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: I love the prattle!

[22:10] Gramma Fiddlesticks: goodnight all! It’s 1am for me!

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[22:10] CarmenLittleFawn: night 🙂

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: Good night and please take care!

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for being part of this!

[22:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Good night everyone! 🙂

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Some great ideas for our goals have been delivered!

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: thanks everyone .. this was so interesting .. i
hope you all figure it out 🙂

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pam!

[22:11] CarmenLittleFawn: night pam

[22:11] Brena Benoir: Good night to all leaving

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: You will be part of it JenzZa!

[22:11] CarmenLittleFawn: Night everybody, tc 🙂

[22:11] Brena Benoir: thanks for joining us!

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: p.s you all rock for your volunteerism etc 🙂 I
am a ruthless capitalist entrepeneur 🙂

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: I will ? lol

[22:12] Gentle Heron: Thanks Pam and Zinnia for organizing this. And
thanks to everyone who participated and thought about these important

[22:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol

[22:12] Dancers Yao: good night…have good dreams

[22:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks so much Zinnia!

[22:12] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Gentle! You know how to support
community and love all the ideas!

[22:12] Sister Abeyante: Excellent discussion, indeed.

[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!
[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: I love it!
[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: So many super ideas and from awesome folks!

[22:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes thanks Gentle so much for
participating – you have an awesome community!

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Join us on September 21 for the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life 5th Anniversary Celebration

Friday, September 21 at the Nonprofit Commons (NPC) on Plush and Aloft
with events throughout the day and festive formal dress encouraged!

5th Anniversary Celebration Events happen at 8:30 AM, 3:30 PM, 8:30
PM, and 3:30 AM. Please see details below:

8:30 – 10:00 AM SLT
Morning Nonprofit Commons Meeting including NPC History, Awards, and
All Star NPC Members Coughran Mayo, Jacques Macaire and much more at
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater.

Meeting Agenda
8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Nonprofit Commons History
9:00 AM All Star NPC Members’ Stories for the Future
9:30 AM Nonprofit Commons All Star Awards
9:45 AM Open Mic / Announcements

3:30 – 5:00 PM SLT
DJ DyVerse Dance Party Meet and Greet at CommonGround Aloft Nonprofit
Commons. Enjoy networking and dancing among other nonprofits and
supporters! Learn more about what nonprofits, educators,
humanitarians, scientists, and artists accomplish in Second Life at
the Nonprofit Commons at this fun and informative event.

8:30 – 10:30 PM SLT
Active Collaborative Community Planning Workshop to create solutions
for all our unify goals for the Virtual Vision 2020 – an initiative to
develop a plan for the Second Life community at Plush Nonprofit
Commons Amphitheater. All Second Life Communities are welcome to
participate in building partnerships and solutions.

Workshop Agenda
8:30 PM Introductions
8:40 PM Explanation of Community Planning and Virtual Vision 2020 Purpose
8:50 PM Breakout groups discussion of goals and identification of who
might help achieve goal
9:20 PM Presentation of breakout group solutions and strategies
9:40 PM Build partnerships to lead by example

3:30 – 4:30 AM SLT Live Music Meet and Greet at CommonGround Aloft
Nonprofit Commons.

Please Come Join the Nonprofit All Stars!

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript for August 31 NPC Meeting – The Power of Encouragement with Ruthe Farmer of The National Center for Women & IT

“The Power of Encouragement – it’s free, it’s easy, & it works” with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women & IT for August 31 Nonprofit Commons Meeting

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 31, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
8:55 The Power of Encouragement – it’s free, it’s easy, & it works with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women & IT
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements

– Unabridged Transcript –


[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome everyone to the Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:31] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Hi Zinnia, thanks

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Hi there!

[08:32] APPLAUSE: A Hearty round of applause bursts from the crowd

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is
sponsored by TechSoup Global.
[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: We are so happy you have joined us today!

[08:33] Glitteractica Cookie: It is also a program of the TechSOup
Global Community and social media team

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Let me share our Agenda for today!

[08:33] Glitteractica Cookie: (meaning, we not only sponsor it, we are
in it) 😉

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: 8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

8:55 The Power of Encouragement – it’s free, it’s easy, & it works
with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women &

9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements
[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, thank you Glitter.
[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Let me also share a bunch of links with you as well.
[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:
[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: So we like to start off with Introductions!

[08:35] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Please state your real name, location, org, and
ways we can find you online.

[08:35] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Our transcript is made public.

[08:35] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare,
Kirksville, Missouri, @brenabenoir

[08:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko | Counselor, Coach, &
Tutor of Personal Finance in Private Practice | | @jerrybuchko

[08:35] Lyssa (janlyssa.serenity): Lyssa Rowan, Job
Accommodation Network, @JANatJAN

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:35] Par (parhelion.palou): Bilbo Baggins, north of Baltimore, MD,
generic volunteer, no twitter, no website

[08:35] Chayenn: monique Richert, protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore
, Maryland,,, @PY1US

[08:35] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:35] Allene Sideways: Ruthe Farmer, National Center for Women & IT, @ruthef

[08:35] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American
Veterans Association, Akron, OH,,!/TAVAUS

[08:36] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Deborah Tucker – What’s In Your Lunch Box?

[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc. Los Angeles, Ca
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:36] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager Online Community and
Social Media TechSoup Global,, San Francisco, USA
@MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: If you join us late, please still introduce yourself!

[08:36] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): Ricky Davis, San Antonio Health advocate and believer that music
heals aka DJ

[08:36] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup,
SF, Ca. @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:36] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online Community and Social
Media Director, TechSoup global @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:36] Andy Evans: Andy Evans, First Opinions Panel in SL; Social
Research Foundation, New York, NY

[08:36] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.
gives you access to our blog, Twitter, and Facebook

[08:36] Allene Sideways: I’m also @csedweek &

[08:36] Biji Mornington: BJ Wishinsky, formerly Anita Borg Institute
for Women & Technology. Currently consulting at TechSoup and Palo Alto
Open Space. @leapingwoman

[08:37] Allene Sideways: OMG Hi BJ!

[08:37] Biji Mornington: Hi, Ruthe!

[08:37] Tori Landau: Patricia Dean, volunteer event coordinator for
Open University sim in SL, Deep Think. I’m in the UK. Open University

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: It is so great to see you all!

[08:38] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): xbox gamer tag Dyverse
Steele @dyverse_steele facebook ricky.g.davis

[08:38] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org – technology outreach
to those who would not otherwise have access – Arizona, Mexico and On
the Road

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Do you have friends you want to invite to our meeting?

[08:39] Sarvana Haalan: Sally Cherry, NPSL cheerleader :-), Baltimore,

[08:39] BELOVEDROX: Roxy Rocker National Service Inclusion Project

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: You are always welcome to invite other groups
to our meetings!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: You can send them a note through your group
chat with the SLURL.
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: We are trying to encourage others to join us
for these great meetings.
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for introductions and sharing with people!

TechSoup Announcements

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: It is time for TechSoup Announcements!

[08:41] bulaklak: Hi, folks! Thanks, Zinnia.
[08:41] bulaklak: We are excited to announce the official launch of
our local impact map

[08:41] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): hello! 🙂

[08:41] Zinnia Zauber: YAY!

[08:41] bulaklak: the local impact map allows you to visually explore
the positive impact of programs promoted and supported by TechSoup and
its donor partners around the world.

[08:41] Buffy Beale: Nice one!

[08:41] bulaklak: We have a couple great stories from the NPC community
[08:42] bulaklak: The Love Foundation and Elder Voices

[08:42] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[08:42] Sarvana Haalan: wooot, woot!!!

[08:42] bulaklak: Here is a link to the map so you can check it out:

[08:43] Dancers Yao: thank you we really appreciate this

[08:43] bulaklak: And we will continue to add stories to the map
ongoing so if you have an idea send it to

[08:43] Buffy Beale: looking great bulaklak

[08:43] Biji Mornington: So cool. Congrats on the launch!

[08:43] bulaklak: Thanks!
[08:43] bulaklak: Is anyone from the Love Foundation or Elder Voices here today?
[08:44] bulaklak: Okay, well next up we’d love to have your help with
a short survey.

[08:44] Dancers Yao: yes we thank you

[08:44] Zinnia Zauber: Dancers is

[08:44] Gentle Heron: Dancers is from Elder Voices.

[08:45] Dancers Yao: here from Elder Voices

[08:45] bulaklak: Oh, great!
[08:45] bulaklak: Just wanted to give you a special thanks for
contributing to the map.

[08:45] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Dancers!

[08:46] bulaklak: So TechSoup is interested in how nonprofits,
libraries, and other organizations provide internet and computer
access for their communities

[08:46] Dancers Yao: and thanks again to Zinnia and Gentle for their
encouragement to tell this story

[08:46] Glitteractica Cookie: We’d love to feature as many nonprofits
from this community as we can, especially those that are not in the
US! (although all of you who are with NPOs are welcome to get in

[08:47] bulaklak: This is a *very* short survey so please take a few
moments to fill it out so we can learn how your orgs are providing
[08:47] bulaklak: Or even if your org is just thinking about providing
computer or internet access to its community
[08:47] bulaklak: Here is the link:

[08:47] Sarvana Haalan: In Baltimore, they are working to turn the
“closed” rec centers into Tech center.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: Cool idea Sarvana!

[08:48] Sarvana Haalan: *centers for the communities
[08:49] Sarvana Haalan: I will share the link with the Baltimore Unwired team

[08:49] bulaklak: Lastly, I wanted to share a new member spotlight we
have on the Community homepage of The Community homepage
is a hub for our online community including the help forums and our
[08:49] bulaklak: The latest member we are shining a spotlight on is
Amazon Watch. They do pretty amazing work.
[08:49] bulaklak: Here is the link to the spotlight:
[08:50] bulaklak: And that’s all I’ve got for today. Thanks and have a
great meeting and great weekend!

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie:

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[08:50] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Thanks bulaklak that was very interesting

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Any other news from TechSoup?

[08:51] bulaklak: None from me!

[08:51] alebez: I think that’s it, z

Mentor Central

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Super!
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys!
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Okay! Mentor Central!
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: So, I thought today I would give you guys homework.

[08:51] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot Mentor Central!!!!

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: If you know me, you know I love to give homework.

[08:52] Sarvana Haalan: We love home work…. hehe

[08:52] Gentle Heron: Go Zinnia!

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: We often talk about how we use SL as professionals.

[08:52] Sarvana Haalan: 🙂

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: And, we use it for work.
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Our avatar is how we connect with people.
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you are connected with your avatar?

[08:53] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I think I am, but not quite sure what you mean

[08:53] Gentle Heron: absolutely I am!

[08:53] Sarvana Haalan: I am, I think 🙂

[08:53] BELOVEDROX: I Am !

[08:53] Biji Mornington: I’m with Jen on this!

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Your avatar is a visual representation of you
and your professional reputation. Your avatar must communicate your
enthusiasm, openness, and mission to tap those productive, emotional
interactions and encourage participation that online communities
utilize as a form of personal branding and real influential guidance.

[08:54] Tilly-Floss (hjeidi): umbilically attached

[08:54] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): my server connection to my avatar
seems a bit laggy today, otherwise ok i guess… 😉

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: Efficiently build credibility by embodying your
best self though your Authentic Avatar. Discover how to create an
expressive, consistent, and unique appearance and animations that
articulates your genuine motivation, fosters confidence, and to
differentiate you, your cause, and your business from other avatars.

[08:54] Tori Landau: I am both in that I feel she is me and that since
earlier this year my real identity is also now linked to my avatar

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent!
[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: So, here is your homework…

[08:54] Sarvana Haalan: Jerry, I am lagging here today also

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Please review my slide show from the workshop I did at
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: the Federal Consortium for Virtual Worlds

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Here is the link
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber:…

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: I want you to please take the time to review.
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please think about how you can define your mission.

[08:57] Biji Mornington: thanks, Zinnia. i REALLY need that!

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: How does that sound?
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Can you guys do it?

[08:57] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Excellent!

[08:57] BELOVEDROX: Great!

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for letting me give you some
homework, and let’s be our best selves in here!

[08:57] Buffy Beale: nice one Z and lol on my big pic in one of the slides

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy you are one of my stars
[08:58] Buffy Beale: Zinnia made my skin btw
[08:58] Buffy Beale: awww ty Z

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: You can see, that Zinnia looks like me, Renne.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: But we don’t all have to look like ourselves.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: just be ourselves.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Okay! Thank you!

[08:59] Sarvana Haalan: Zinnia and Renne are stars!

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: aww, thanks Sar!

The Power of Encouragement – it’s free, it’s easy, & it works with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women & IT

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: It is time for our speaker!
[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Allene can you join me up here please?

[08:59] Sarvana Haalan: I truly to be my outgoing networking self…

[09:00] Buffy Beale: cheering for Allene!!!

[09:00] Sarvana Haalan: Welcome Allene

[09:00] Gentle Heron applauds for Allene.

[09:00] Allene Sideways: THanks!
[09:00] Allene Sideways: hi everyone

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: I want you all to meet Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways.
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: She is the Director of Strategic Initiatives at
the National Center for Women & IT, an organization seeking to
increase women’s meaningful participation in computing and information

[09:00] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot, wooot Allene

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: She is the driving force behind the NCWIT Award
for Aspirations in Computing, a nationwide program for high school
young women interested in technology and is the Chair of Computer
Science Education Week 2012.

[09:00] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): YAH!

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Ruthe was formerly the national manager of STEM
education at Girl Scouts of the USA and holds an MBA in Social
Entrepreneurship from the University of Oxford Said Business School
and part of her masters’ research including methods and results in
Second Life.

[09:01] Sarvana Haalan: interesting…

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: And, we went to undergrad together! I am so
proud to have her here today!
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: Please take it away!

[09:01] Biji Mornington: Ruthe is a ROCK STAR of gender inclusion in
tech. Seriously!

[09:01] Allene Sideways: Thanx Renne!

[09:01] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I really hate to, but RL is demanding
me for another meeting

[09:01] Allene Sideways: & BJ
[09:01] Allene Sideways: Greetings, my name is Ruthe Farmer & I
represent the National Center for Women & IT and Computer Science
Education Week.
[09:01] Allene Sideways: I’ve been working in the gender & technology
world since 2001 when I joined the Girl Scouts as a STEM Program

[09:02] Glitteractica Cookie: Welcome

[09:02] Allene Sideways: I’m extremely passionate about equity for
women and girls and feel that meaningful participation of women in
technology is crucial to their economic security as well as the
quality of the technological innovations we create moving forward.
We can only imagine how the technical world will look once women have
an equal seat at the table. BTW SL has really great gender numbers in
terms of users.

[09:02] Allene Sideways: Slide 2
So why computer science?
[09:02] Allene Sideways: As you know it is Creative – Computing offers
the opportunity to create new technologies and imagine new worlds. If
you are a creative person – CS is a great way to use that in a career.
[09:02] Allene Sideways: It allows you to Solve Problems – no other
time in history has offered so much opportunity to have global impact.
Through technology we can address the great challenges of our time –
poverty, hunger, disease, space exploration. Individuals can make a
massive impact on the world.
[09:03] Allene Sideways: Scholarships – LOTS of scholarship money out
there for students interested in CS
Salaries – Computing jobs start around 60K for a new graduate and
median salaries are over 100K and…
[09:03] Allene Sideways: There are lots of Jobs – the US DOL predicts
1.4M new computing jobs by 2018 and right now there are two open jobs
in computing for every qualified person.
[09:03] Allene Sideways: Frankly the US needs more people in the
field. We live in an information economy that runs on technology, yet
our current educational pipeline will only produce 29% of the workers
needed to fill these jobs.

[09:04] Allene Sideways: Slide 3
So why is this a problem? The US has changed from a
farming/manufacturing economy to an information economy. Yet our
schools are essentially teaching the same curriculum that was
established in the late 1800’s – before modern technology existed.
[09:04] Allene Sideways: Computer science/technology is NOT a core
curricular course, it often does not count towards a math or science
graduation requirement, and is usually an elective course – competing
with art, music and languages. There is also a shortage of teachers
qualified to teach computing courses and no certification required.
[09:04] Allene Sideways: The National Center for Women & IT and
Computer Science Education Week are both working to address this
issue, seeking to improve the inclusion of women in the field and
increasing access to computing education for all students.

[09:05] Allene Sideways: Slide 4
One intervention we are really excited about is the NCWIT Aspirations
in computing program. This program identifies interested high school
girls and gives them the support and encouragement to continue.

[09:05] 01 Hifeng: seriously?? computer science isn’t mandatory in
american schools? wow

[09:05] Allene Sideways: Since 2007 we have inducted over 1500 young
women into this community and we are on target to recognize an
additional 1000 annually from here on out. The outcomes of this
program have been tremendous: 88% of participants enroll in a
traditionally male-dominated STEM major with 64% of girls majoring in
computer science.
[09:05] Allene Sideways: Yes, only 24% of US HS even offer it.

[09:05] 01 Hifeng: wow

[09:06] Allene Sideways: And over 80% of participants report sharing
about the program or computing in general with younger girls.

[09:06] Allene Sideways: Slide 5
We now have 55 local affiliate programs that serve girls around the
country in addition to a national level program. Girls are selected
and recognized locally, connecting them to peers as well as the
universities they might attend and companies where they might intern.

[09:06] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): (@01 Hilfeng – I don’t think
computers are even mandatory in American schools… 😉

[09:06] Allene Sideways: At the same time all participants are invited
to an online community of peers which provides support, encouragement,
and connections to scholarships, jobs and opportunities.
[09:06] Allene Sideways: Applications for this year begin on 9/15/12
and all the info can be found at

[09:07] Allene Sideways: Slide 6
Our evaluation shows that the small act of recognizing and encouraging
a girl’s talents really works. Girls report feeling more confident in
their tech skills, being more excited, and feeling less afraid.
[09:07] Allene Sideways: A favorite girl quote: “The experience for
applying for this award was a little doubtful at first, but eventually
I realized my experience in technology was noteworthy enough.”

[09:08] Biji Mornington: love that quote!

[09:08] Allene Sideways: BJ is familiar with this program
[09:08] Allene Sideways: Me too – heartstrings

[09:08] Allene Sideways: So on to encouragement – Slide 7
A colleague told me a story about her freshmen Intro to CS course –
that she took only because she couldn’t get into a different class.
She had intended to major in econ.
[09:08] Allene Sideways: Then her professor wrote on one of her exams
“Great job. Do you have a major? Come see me.” That small act of
encouragement changed her life and cost the professor nothing but the
effort to write it.
[09:09] Allene Sideways: There is significant power in words,
especially from an outside trusted source (i.e. not a parent). The
simple act of overly recognizing a student’s potential goes a long,
long way.
[09:09] Allene Sideways: When I speak to young people, I talk about
encouragement and promotion. I recommend they encourage THEMSELVES and
peers. It is easy, costs little and can only help.
[09:09] Allene Sideways: I also recommend they promote themselves and
promote others – so when an opportunity comes up – nominate yourself
or a friend. “Hey, my friend Jasmine is a great programmer, you should
put her on the team.”
[09:09] Allene Sideways: This is how the world works, how networks are
created and teams are built. I am working hard to encourage girls to
step up and ask for the opportunities they want and deserve – or
create them.

[09:10] Allene Sideways: Slide 8
Please check out and share with any young
women or teachers you know.

[09:10] Biji Mornington: quotable Ruthe Farmer: “There is significant
power in words, especially from an outside trusted source”

[09:10] Allene Sideways: Also, mark your calendar for Computer Science
Education Week 2012 – December 9-15 in honor of the birthday of
Admiral Grace Murray Hopper – the mother of computing. There are lots
of free activities and resources at
[09:11] Allene Sideways: Great quote from Admiral Hopper = “Be good
ships, a ship in the harbour is safe, but that is not what ships are
meant for. Go out and do new things.”

[09:11] Gentle Heron: YAY Grace Hopper!

[09:11] Allene Sideways: Thanks for having me and feel free to contact
me for more info. I’m happy to take some questions if we have time.

[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[09:12] Buffy Beale: Applauding!!

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: We do have time!

[09:12] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Awesome! 😀

[09:12] Allene Sideways: Great!

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have questions?

[09:12] Gentle Heron: QUESTION- Allene, for non educators, what’s one
most important thing we can do to promote girls in computing?

[09:12] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Thank you so much Allene. I will
follow up because I want to become involved with you to support.

[09:12] Buffy Beale: great question Gentle

[09:12] Allene Sideways: If you see that a girl has interest or
aptitude – encourage her. T
[09:13] Allene Sideways: There are tons of free, online resources and
things to play with to get your feet wet.

[09:13] Buffy Beale: Question: Is there any outreach to other
countries or is this specific to the US?

[09:13] Ozma Malibu: Yes, thanks! I have noticed that the new Common
Core standards have moved toward including technology and engineering
as part of science, and that writing includes technical writing, so
there are a lot of other people who see the need in the US for
computer science in schools.

[09:13] Allene Sideways: for smaller kids
[09:13] Allene Sideways: for MS and HS and
[09:13] Allene Sideways: Also the just released MS
programming modules
[09:14] Allene Sideways: Also, make sure young women understand how
much good they can do through technology.

[09:14] BELOVEDROX: Thank you , what a great program. How are you
marketing to young female students with disabilities? What types of
accommodations have you provided?

[09:14] Allene Sideways: Girls are socialized to be in the “helping
professions”, yet most people don’t realize how much good can be done
through tech

[09:15] Sarvana Haalan: Indeed

[09:15] Biji Mornington: also

[09:15] Gentle Heron: oh good point there Allene.

[09:15] Allene Sideways: We market through the NCWIT K-12 Alliance
which includes K-12 orgs that serve girls both formal and informal
[09:15] Allene Sideways: I also pretty much spam everyone I can.

[09:15] Biji Mornington: and

[09:16] Allene Sideways: I had a girl from Boston who was a super
rockstar and would have won just on that. We didn’t know she was blind
until her teacher mentioned it.
[09:16] Allene Sideways: If you are looking to highlight young women
with disabilities achieving in tech, I can connect you to several of
the girls in our program
[09:17] Allene Sideways: But I’d welcome any connections to networks
that serve underserved groups!

[09:17] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Great

[09:17] Allene Sideways: Another great resource is

[09:18] Biji Mornington: @belovedrox check out
re initiatives to engage people with disabilities and underrepresented
minorities in computing/IT careers

[09:18] Allene Sideways: they are a collaborative of girls/STEM
programs nationwide and a great way to find the small grass roots
efforts in your community

[09:18] BELOVEDROX: Great . Connect with me Allene

[09:18] Allene Sideways: I’m coming to Baltimore for the Grace Hopper
conf next month!

[09:18] Biji Mornington: Allene/Ruthe – I think your know CMD-IT
(Valerie Taylor’s nonprofit)

[09:19] Allene Sideways: Yes, I know Valerie
[09:19] Allene Sideways: She is an NCWIT member.

[09:19] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Me too…

[09:19] Biji Mornington: another rock star!

[09:19] Allene Sideways: NCWIT is an organization of change leaders
working together on this issue.
[09:20] Allene Sideways: We love to connect and are hoping to build as
big a community as is needed to get to gender parity.

[09:20] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Yahoo! and YAHS!

[09:20] Allene Sideways: We plan to go out of business. This shouldn’t
be an issue at all. 🙁

[09:20] Gentle Heron nods

[09:20] Allene Sideways: Any more questions?

[09:20] Zinnia Zauber: Question: How do we lead by example to
encourage more of this dialog?
I know when I was in HS and college I was the only girl in my
architecture and computer classes. And, people are always surprised
when they take my computer classes, they seem to start with “Oh, you
are the instructor!”

[09:21] Allene Sideways: First, if you have young women in your
classes, pay attention to how they are doing.
[09:21] Allene Sideways: Don’t call them out as special, but make sure
they are being included.
[09:22] Allene Sideways: It is helpful to just inform people. Most are
unaware of the issue and conflate using computers with creating
[09:23] Allene Sideways: I’ve had conversations w/ businessmen on the
plane who say “what about women in technology” when I tell them what I
[09:23] Allene Sideways: Most people just aren’t aware of the problem.
[09:23] Allene Sideways: but consider this: MOST of the technical
world around is being built w/o the input of 1/2 the population
[09:23] Allene Sideways: this is a problem
[09:24] Allene Sideways: First, because we aren’t getting the best
solutions possible (the first VM hung up on female voices bc it hadn’t
been designed by any women or tested w/ women)

[09:24] Biji Mornington: wow

[09:25] Allene Sideways: Second, we aren’t addressing the full suite
of problems that need to be solved because the design team is not
representative of the population

[09:25] Zinnia Zauber: Question: Are there more women using virtual
worlds and social media?

[09:25] Allene Sideways: Yes, social media has a lot of women and last
I heard SL was more than 40%
[09:25] Allene Sideways: could be different now
[09:26] Allene Sideways: We are excited about social media as a
possible avenue of women to move into tech jobs

[09:26] Biji Mornington: There are tons of experienced women in social
media and yet the men are still dominant as “the experts”

[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: Question: Could you please share with us your
biggest takeaway from your research in Second Life?

[09:26] Allene Sideways: also, social media is becoming more
sophisticated and demands more technology as it moves into mobile and
whatever comes next
[09:27] Allene Sideways: I have a team of 31 girls building a mobile
social app to connect tech minded young women
[09:27] Allene Sideways: It is an Android – they will be presenting it
at next month

[09:27] Zinnia Zauber: Super!
[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: Did you see my last question, Ruthe?

[09:28] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): indeed!

[09:28] Allene Sideways: Thanks everyone for the warm welcome

[09:28] Dancers Yao: wonderful work thank you

[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: Question: Could you please share with us your
biggest takeaway from your research in Second Life?
[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: We can end on this if that is okay.

[09:28] Allene Sideways: Yes, we interviewed faculty from Univ that
were using SL for educ purposes
[09:29] Allene Sideways: Two things were really salient
[09:29] Allene Sideways: SL is a great platform for people with disabilities

[09:29] Gentle Heron: Yes, in some ways!

[09:29] Allene Sideways: both for research by researchers w/
disabilities and to mitigate bias
[09:30] Allene Sideways: Also, at CU Boulder they are teaching CS 101
for nonmajors using SL and LSL
[09:30] Allene Sideways: they have seen the class grow from 20
students to 90 students
[09:30] Allene Sideways: and it is now 40% female
[09:31] Allene Sideways: I think there is something about the creative
aspect of building in 3D that attracts a more diverse student

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: I totally agree!

[09:31] Allene Sideways: Thanks so much y’all!

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Wow, this has been wonderful!
[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much!

[09:31] Gentle Heron: Thank you Allene.

[09:31] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Cheers. Thank you. So glad to be here!

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: This is a lot for us to think about and share, right?

[09:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, thank you.

[09:32] Buffy Beale: Cheering! great persentation thank you!

[09:32] Tori Landau: Agree re. the building in 3d and thank you so
much for the talk Allene, been very enlightening about the situation
in the USA

[09:32] Sarvana Haalan: Yes…. I just invited Grasshopper, a colleague

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Please remember to get your laptop up front.

[09:33] Biji Mornington: Yay, Ruthe! See you on the outside 😉

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you very much, Ruthe!

[09:33] Sarvana Haalan: Thank you!!!!

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, it is time for Open Mic!
[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have announcements?

[09:34] Ozma Malibu: In the early days there was much concern because
in afterschool programs, it was the boys who wanted to use the
computers. But it was also clear that as soon as there was something
to DO with the computers that girls found interesting, they’d be just
as excited, and so it turned out. Hopefully this will continue at
higher levels of education & on. But if girls don’t learn to program,
they won’t be able to work on every level of creating the programs
that they find interesting.

[09:34] Ozma Malibu: sorry one more comment for Ruthe 🙂

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: That is great, Ozma!
[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: If no one has announcements, I am sure we can
continue our inquiry about what Allene / Ruthe shared.

[09:36] Biji Mornington: shameless self-promotion: I’m looking for
nonprofit online community work/consulting if anyone needs help
outside SL.

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: The Mentors are still looking for volunteers to
help with the Nonprofit Commons 5th year celebration. Please join them
after this meeting to discuss.
[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, Biji, thank you.
[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Anyone else with announcements?

[09:37] Allene Sideways: If anyone would like to be a virtual judge
for the NCWIT Award for Aspirations in Computing go to
and click volunteer

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[09:37] Allene Sideways: oops

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Other announcements?

[09:38] Allene Sideways: works too

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: super!
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: A reminder of other ways to
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: I also want to say thank you to the TechSoup
Team for having me be the Community Manager for these few months. And,
thank you to all of you for your support while I did the job. It has
been a honor working with you all!

[09:40] Allene Sideways: Great job Zinnia

[09:40] Glitteractica Cookie: you’ve been great!!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Allene!

[09:40] Deytiri Tukan (wiylbox): Terrific, Z.

[09:40] Gentle Heron: Good job, Zinnia.

[09:41] Ronnie Rhode: You’re awesome Zin!

[09:41] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Thanks, Zinn.

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: I love to encourage folks, point at them, and
tell them what to do. So this has been super!

[09:41] Dancers Yao: yes just great…are you continuing this position?

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Any more questions for Ruthe before we end the meeting?

[09:41] Brena Benoir: Thanks for your support and encouragement for
the community as well Zinnia!

[09:41] Buffy Beale: you do a great job Z!

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Rhiannon will be your new Community Manager.
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: She starts right away!

[09:42] Buffy Beale: Wow Z that’s great but we need to give you a party 🙂

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Aww, let’s do it Sept 21!

[09:43] Buffy Beale: ok sounds good

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!

[09:44] Ronnie Rhode: Great idea

[09:44] Ozma Malibu: So it’s decided, the Sept 21 party is ALSO in
honor of Zinnia.

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s have a big group hug today for a photo!

[09:44] Ronnie Rhode: Three cheers for Zinnia!

[09:44] Gentle Heron smiles.

[09:44] APPLAUSE: A Hearty round of applause bursts from the crowd
[09:44] APPLAUSE: A Hearty round of applause bursts from the crowd
[09:44] APPLAUSE: A Hearty round of applause bursts from the crowd

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Aww, I just mean we have a party then! Thank you Ozma!

[09:44] APPLAUSE: A Hearty round of applause bursts from the crowd

[09:44] Buffy Beale: lol group hug time yayy

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Please join me up front for the group hug!

[09:45] Ozma Malibu: Z..whose enthusiasm carried the summer and
sparked the BD party!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Click on the white disk to sit on it

[09:45] Sarvana Haalan: sorry… I crashed

[09:45] Ronnie Rhode: Yeah Ozma!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for this great meeting!

[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: What did I miss? White disk?

[09:46] Brena Benoir: click on the white disk at the bottom

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Allene for this super talk!

[09:46] alebez: i have to run z! you’re awesome! and thanks everyone
for a wonderful meeting!

[09:46] Tilly-Floss (hjeidi): ty 😀

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: The Mentors meet at 10!

[09:47] Par (parhelion.palou): Camming in from the top is the best bet now

[09:47] Gentle Heron: If you are having trouble seeing the white disk
to click on it, try looking from overhead.

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: no more space

[09:47] Tori Landau: i managed a sneaky click between someone’s legs °͜°

[09:47] Allene Sideways: bye every
[09:47] Allene Sideways: one

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Please join the group hug

[09:47] Allene Sideways: thatnks

[09:47] Par (parhelion.palou): Bye Allene

[09:47] Chayenn: have to go , have all a nice week end everyone Hugs

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Bye Allene thank you!

[09:47] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): bye alebez

[09:47] Tori Landau: Bye Allene!

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Take care everyone!

[09:48] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): bye Allene

[09:48] Brena Benoir: Bye to those leaving, have a great and safe
holiday weekends

[09:48] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): you too, Brena 🙂

[09:48] Tori Landau: bye everyone, see you next Fri °͜°

[09:48] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): bye Tori

[09:48] Buffy Beale: byee

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: I love this group hug thingy!

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

“The Power of Encouragement” with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women & IT for August 31 NPC Meeting

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 31, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

On Friday, August 31, Ruthe Farmer will share how the Power of Encouragement can improve participation in the computer sciences and change the world. She is the Director of Strategic Initiatives at the National Center for Women & IT, an organization seeking to increase women’s meaningful participation in computing and information technology. She is the driving force behind the NCWIT Award for Aspirations in Computing, a nationwide program for high school young women interested in technology and is the Chair of Computer Science Education Week 2012. Ruthe was formerly the national manager of STEM education at Girl Scouts of the USA and holds an MBA in Social Entrepreneurship from the University of Oxford Said Business School and part of her masters’ research including methods and results in Second Life.


8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

8:55 The Power of Encouragement – it’s free, it’s easy, & it works with Ruthe Farmer / Allene Sideways of The National Center for Women & IT

9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript of August 24 Nonprofit Commons Meeting – Ethnography and Virtual Worlds with Tom Boellstorff and Celia Pearce

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 24, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM “Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” with Tom Boellstorff and Celia Pearce
9:35 AM Mentors Central
9:45 AM Open Mic / Announcements


[08:30] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome everyone!

[08:31] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): is it in voice ?

[08:31] Gentle Heron: All text, Ridvan.

[08:31] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): i cannot hear

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: I am Zinnia Zauber, your interim Community
Manager here at the Nonprofit Commons.

[08:31] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): all right

[08:31] Buffy Beale: ok what is it with the front row vacancy? lol I’m
feeling lonely here…

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is a
community of social benefit organizations managed by a community of
volunteers and sponsored by the nonprofit organization TechSoup

[08:31] Buffy Beale: aww Pooky ty 🙂

[08:31] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: We like to to start our meeting with links on
how you can find us and then introductions.
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: AGENDA

8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM “Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” with Tom Boellstorff / Tom Bukowski

9:35 AM Mentors Central

9:45 AM Open Mic / Announcements

[08:32] Buffy Beale: yay Grizzia and RR brave souls we are

[08:32] Ronnie Rhode: We love you BB 🙂

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!, People in the front!

[08:33] Buffy Beale: awwww!

[08:33] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Indeed!

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: So, let’s have some introductions. Please state
your real name, where you are at, your org, your website and twitter

[08:33] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation

[08:33] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:33] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore,
MD , , . @PY1US

[08:33] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Our meeting transcripts are posted online.

[08:33] Buffy Beale: haha HB well done!

[08:33] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:34] Chad Mikado: Chad Gobert; National Service Inclusion Project @
UMass Boston;

[08:34] HB Eternal: Silver is good too Buffy

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:34] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online Community Director,
TechSoup, SF CA USA @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:34] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:34] Pancha Enzyme: Marshall Dozier, University of Edinburgh, @mafrado

[08:34] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:34] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:34] Par (parhelion.palou): Herbert Hoover, generic volunteer,
north of Baltimore, MD, no website, no twitter

[08:34] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): Ridvan Ata, Sheffield, UK
,The University of Sheffield, PhD Candidate,

[08:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Pooky Amsterdam CEO Pookymedia – Machinima
studio par excelleance – – one video a million

[08:34] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Chris Robinson, Georgia Gwinnett
College, metro Atlanta

[08:34] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager Online Community and
Social Media, TechSoup Global,, @MichaelDeLongSF
@TechSoup, San Francisco, USA

[08:35] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, tech outreach to
those who would not otherwise have access, Arizona, Mexico and On the
Road; @ozma, still trying to get the website back up (long story)

[08:35] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup,
SF, CA, @TechSoup,@alebez

[08:35] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): Ricky Davis San Antonio
@dyverse.steele facebook
Ricky.G.Davis Health advocate and DJ

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Remember if you are ever late to the meeting,
still please introduce yourself to the group.

[08:35] Klara Otsuka: Clara O’Shea., University of Edinburgh, @claraoshea 🙂

[08:35] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): blog and website coming soon

[08:35] Katherine Cunningham (kcunning): Jodi Swicegood, RTI
International, RTP NC

[08:36] Peperi Franizzi: MacKenzie Stout, Owner/Operator Grid Wide

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Looks like we have a great group today!

[08:36] VesaV. (veilvali): Vesa Välimäki, student from Finland, no
twitter, no website!

[08:36] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare,
Kirksville, Missouri, @brenabenoir

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: How did you find out about the meeting today?

[08:36] Gentle Heron: Hooray for students!

[08:36] Pancha Enzyme: sled email

[08:36] Zotarah Shepherd: ooo 29 folks here!

[08:37] Aquiel Aero: sledu events announced this meeting

[08:37] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): SLED

[08:37] Bear (bear.silvershade): Bear Silvershade, artist and
storyteller.. Artropolis (135,177,60) inwrold and online

[08:37] Klara Otsuka: Pancha told me 🙂

[08:37] Pooky Amsterdam: SLEd = the best

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful! I am happy to hear that!

[08:37] Pancha Enzyme: 🙂 @Klara

[08:37] VesaV. (veilvali): From Second Life event listing.

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[08:37] Buffy Beale: welcome veilvali!

[08:37] Bear (bear.silvershade): referral from Gentle through a mutual friend

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: Any more introductions?

[08:37] Buffy Beale: yay Bear welcome too

[08:38] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): I found out from the inworld announcement

[08:38] Tom Bukowski: Tom, still rezzing, can say hello in a few when
I’m chatting with folks

[08:38] Tori Landau: Hi, just waiting for everyone and everything to rezz °͜°

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[08:38] Buffy Beale: good to hear Grizzla and welcome

[08:38] Riven Homewood: Riven Homewood – I run a roleplay library in
Steelhead – I found out via an email announcement

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Remember our transcript will be posted online.

[08:39] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): Yeah, I’m about to declare SLED
list bankruptcy, I’m so far behind in reading it

[08:39] Pancha Enzyme: Hey Riven 🙂

[08:39] Bear (bear.silvershade) waves to Riven

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: And, I know we all pick up new followers on
Twitter after the meeting, right?

[08:39] Riven Homewood: Hi Pancha 🙂 – Hi Bear – Hi Tom

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second
Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn
about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways
in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second
Life to achieve their missions.

[08:39] bulaklak: Yes.

[08:39] Pooky Amsterdam: okay you persuaded me – @pookymedia

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

TechSoup Announcements

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: Now we have TechSoup Announcements!

[08:40] bulaklak: Thanks, Zinnia!

[08:40] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC St. Louis MO
@Coughran, @Innovaision

[08:40] bulaklak: Good day, folks!

[08:40] Glitteractica Cookie: good day

[08:40] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak!

[08:41] bulaklak: Did anyone happen to attend this week’s OCTRIBE on
Wednesday, either in San Francisco or virtually by Adobe Connect?

[08:41] Buffy Beale: sorry to have missed it 🙁

[08:42] Adalace Jewell: sorry, i’m late. Adalace, RoSa Library
Brussels, @adalace

[08:42] bulaklak: I, unfortunately, had to miss it, as well. But lucky
me (and you) that our team blogger Susan Chavez took fantastic notes.
I heard it was just a terrific conversation about engaging online
communities. I am looking forward to the notes once they are live. I
will share them with you all next week.
[08:42] bulaklak: Glitter, anything to add real quick about that evening?
[08:42] bulaklak: Any quick highlight?

[08:42] Nany (nany.kayo): Nancy McDonald Miller, Virtual Native Lands

[08:43] Glitteractica Cookie: no, I think the recap will cover most of it

[08:43] bulaklak: Great.

[08:43] Pooky Amsterdam: YAy Nany!

[08:43] Lowri Mills: I apologize for being late. Lowri Mills,

[08:43] bulaklak: So next Wednesday we have another cool webinar
coming up on the topic of e-readers.

[08:43] Nany (nany.kayo): Hey, Pooky! I can’t see anyone yet : )

[08:44] Fleep Tuque: Chris Collins, University of Cincinnati and AvaCon (we just recently
officially got non-profit status, yay!)

[08:44] bulaklak: Librarian Brenda Hugh will talk all about how
libraries are adapting to this quickly growing technology.

[08:44] bulaklak: Great, congrats, Chris, and welcome!

[08:44] Fleep Tuque: Thanks!

[08:44] Riven Homewood waves to Fleep

[08:44] Bear (bear.silvershade) waves to Fleep

[08:44] bulaklak: At any rate, that webinar on e-readers is Wednesday,
August 29 at 11am Pacific time
[08:44] bulaklak: And you can register here
[08:45] bulaklak:

[08:45] Pooky Amsterdam: Woah Fleep! Ahoy!

[08:45] Fleep Tuque: =)

[08:46] Buffy Beale: yay Fleep!

[08:46] Zinnia Zauber: Please introduce yourself as you join us at the
meeting. Real name, location, org, website, and twitter handle.

[08:46] bulaklak: Lastly, I just want to mention that we have
re-organized our discussion forum categories on As many
of you probably know, our forums are a fantastic place to get your
tech questions answered, and also to share your own expertise while
connecting with others.

[08:46] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City
University of New York. Sorry to be late.

[08:46] bulaklak: We’ve trimmed down to 15 categories and added some
brand new things, such as a place to post all of your events, classes,
trainings, and workshops that are tech and social good related.
[08:47] bulaklak: Here is the link to the discussion forums
[08:47] bulaklak: That’s what I’ve got for today. Thanks for coming
and enjoy the meeting, and your weekends!

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: the forums are a great place to get your
tech questions answered from a trustworthy panel of experts

[08:48] Delia Lake: oops, Linda Kelley, Pittsfield MA, Transitioning
to Green Foundation and here in sl the Center for Water Studies

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[08:50] Buffy Beale: sure is nice to see everyone today and an
invitation to join us every Friday at 8:30 AM 🙂

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

[08:50] Ethelred Weatherwax: Sorry I’m late. Dave Dexter. Neenah
Historical Society, Wisconsin USA

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: is it time for our speaker now?

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Next week we will have Ruthe Farmer Director of
Strategic Initiatives a the National Center for Women & IT,

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

“Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” with Tom Boellstorff and Celia Pearce

[08:51] Tom Bukowski twiddles his thumbs

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: It is time!

[08:51] Tom Bukowski: But there are two of us hwere, which is great!
[08:51] Tom Bukowski: In fact, the woman on the cover of the book is
next to me here!
[08:51] Tom Bukowski: lol

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Please join us up front!

[08:51] Artemesia Sandgrain waves

[08:51] Pooky Amsterdam: Applauds!

[08:51] Buffy Beale: cheers!

[08:51] Riven Homewood: claps

[08:51] Klara Otsuka claps

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[08:51] Tom Bukowski: Hey Pooky, Riven, so many friends

[08:52] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): yayyy

[08:52] Fleep Tuque applauds!

[08:52] Artemesia Sandgrain: Hi everyone…thank you for having us!

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for joining us!
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: “Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” is the only
book of its kind – a concise, comprehensive, and practical guide for
students, teachers, designers, and scholars interested in using
ethnographic methods to study online virtual worlds, including both
game and nongame environments. Written by leading ethnographers of
virtual worlds, and focusing on the key method of participant
observation, the book provides invaluable advice, tips, guidelines,
and principles to aid researchers through every stage of a project,
from choosing an online fieldsite to writing and publishing the

[08:52] Riven Homewood: Yes, thanks

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Tom and Celia thank you!

[08:52] Tom Bukowski knows Zinnia typed *every* letter of that by hand

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[08:52] Gentle Heron: /ne applauds for Tom and his respectful
pioneering work in virtual worlds.

[08:52] Tom Bukowski: aww Thank you Gentle, you are the best…

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: We are thrilled to have you guys here!

[08:53] Artemesia Sandgrain: We’re really excited to be here and
amazed by the turnout!

[08:53] Tom Bukowski: Aww ty. We have never done this before – you are
our first audience talking about this handbook!

[08:53] Artemesia Sandgrain: Thank you to everyone for coming!

[08:53] Tom Bukowski: So we’ll try not to trip up lol

[08:53] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): 🙂

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Go for it!

[08:53] Tom Bukowski: So… Celia and I can maybe just talk a bit
about us and the handbook and then we just have a mellow Q&A?
[08:54] Tom Bukowski: Because you all are researchers too so this will be fun

[08:54] Riven Homewood: Will you be staying in text? Or using voice?

[08:54] Tom Bukowski: I believe they want us to stay in text – doesn’t
matter to me tho

[08:54] Riven Homewood: I prefer text, personally 🙂

[08:54] Gentle Heron: All text here, Riven

[08:54] Artemesia Sandgrain: Text

[08:54] Tom Bukowski: yep, np

[08:54] Riven Homewood: Cool

[08:54] bulaklak: Yes, we are all text. =)

[08:55] Tom Bukowski: btw if you click on the big box with the book
cover, you can get a free inworld copy of the first chapter

[08:55] Glitteractica Cookie: for a number of reasons, we remain a
text-based meeting

[08:55] Pancha Enzyme: oooh!

[08:55] Tom Bukowski: the book will be out for real in the next week
or so, maybe already is out lol

[08:55] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom why don’t I start by talking a little
bit about what motivated us to do the book…

[08:55] Grizzla (grizzla.pixelmaid): If you want to hear their lovely
voices, come to the VWER meeting next week <- shameless plug :0)

[08:55] Bear (bear.silvershade): 500 clicks at once…

[08:55] Gentle Heron chuckles at Grizzla!

[08:55] Tom Bukowski: Please do… (starts humming the Brady Bunch
theme… it’s a story…)

[08:55] Artemesia Sandgrain: hehe

[08:55] Coughran Mayo:…

[08:56] Artemesia Sandgrain: Well one of the impetus’ for the book was
a special interest group that was called at DiGRA in 2007…DiGRA is
the Digital Games Research Association….
[08:56] Artemesia Sandgrain: TL was involved in calling a group on
ethnography for games and virtual worlds
[08:56] Artemesia Sandgrain: the room was completely packed….and
most of the people came because they wanted to know how to do it!
[08:57] Artemesia Sandgrain: Then Tom and Bonnie had organized an
event at UC Irvine, where they both work….
[08:57] Artemesia Sandgrain: and we kept noticing that people were
describing as “ethnography”
[08:57] Artemesia Sandgrain: methods…or in some case a lack of method…
[08:57] Riven Homewood: 🙂
[08:57] Artemesia Sandgrain: it was kind of being used as a catch-up
for just coming in world and watching people

[08:58] Tom Bukowski: *catch-all

[08:58] Artemesia Sandgrain laughs yes

[08:58] Riven Homewood: catch up works too 🙂

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: ketchup?

[08:58] Pooky Amsterdam: Must ward almost makes it

[08:58] Artemesia Sandgrain: It people were using it as an excuse to
do strange things such as deceive subjects or create inworld

[08:58] Riven Homewood: Some of those folks were pretty scary,
especially to a new avatar

[08:59] Artemesia Sandgrain: …so the four of us got together and
decided to do something about it!

[08:59] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂

[08:59] Tom Bukowski: Shall I say a bit about the writing of the handbpok?

[08:59] Artemesia Sandgrain nods

[08:59] Tom Bukowski: So as Celia noted, we realized this was a needed thing
[08:59] Tom Bukowski: that just calling something “ethnography”
doesn’t make it so
[08:59] Tom Bukowski: and people were in some cases doing unethical stuff, etc.
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: but also that some of the quantiative folks who
were less friendly to ethngoraphic stuff
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: were pointing a tthe random people claiming to
do ethnogrpahy
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: and saying “THAT is all qualitative methods get you”
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: So every writing project
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: involves all kinds of choices, limitationg
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: because you can’t do everything
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: and we made two BIG ones
[09:00] Tom Bukowski: that I think worked great.
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: First, the idea of a handbook on ethnographic
methods for viws
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: We actually went back to the original definition
of handbook
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: something you carry with you, into the field

[09:01] Gentle Heron: perfect!

[09:01] Tom Bukowski: so gotta be able to lift it with a hand, even an
avie hand lol
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: so we worked hard to keep it short
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: not like some of those “handbooks” that are 800 pages long
[09:01] Tom Bukowski: and try to be evrything to everyone
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: so to keep it short, we focused on ethnographic methods
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: even though some of us to quantiative reseach
too (Celia’s very good at that and is doing a cool vw survey right now
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: also fhte focus on vws
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: so sl, WoW, etc
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: but not Facebook, not email, not mobile phones, etc.
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: All very interesting, but we had ot make choices.

[09:02] Artemesia Sandgrain: …also not single players games….

[09:02] Tom Bukowski: So that focus was the first big decision
[09:02] Tom Bukowski: yes, Thank you Celia
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: Second one, which was REALLY cool, is the form
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: we started off thinking maybe an edited volume
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: but we realized wouldn’t work because we 4
really wanted to draw from our fieldwork experiences
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: (If you haven’ tread Celias book Communities of
Play you should it is awesome)
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: And you can check out my book Coming of Age in SL too
[09:03] Tom Bukowski: so anyway, we wanted to draw on all that
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: so decided it would be the 4 of us as authors
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: and started wthinking we’d each do chapters, etc.
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: but started writing together more and more
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: and made the HUGE decision
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: that the book, the whole thing, is collectively authored
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: we wrote the whole thing on google docs, and it
is in one voice
[09:04] Tom Bukowski: there is no Celia chapter or Tom chapter, etc

[09:04] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): neat

[09:04] Tom Bukowski: it was an incredible experience and I think the
flow works really well as a result
[09:05] Tom Bukowski: So now maybe Celia can talk about some of the
themese in the chapters real quick and then Q&A?

[09:05] Artemesia Sandgrain: Sure…
[09:05] Artemesia Sandgrain scratches head…let’s see if I can remember
[09:05] Artemesia Sandgrain: Haha

[09:05] Tom Bukowski: lol

[09:05] Artemesia Sandgrain: Well we start off talking about the
history of both ethnography and virtual worlds
[09:06] Artemesia Sandgrain: We all felt this was important because
ethnography has a very rich history…
[09:06] Artemesia Sandgrain: it’s been around for more than a century
as a scientific method
[09:06] Artemesia Sandgrain: or set of methods rather
[09:06] Artemesia Sandgrain: …and also we find that the newness of
virtual worlds tends to create this historical amnesia
[09:07] Artemesia Sandgrain: so we wanted people to be aware that
these things have been around for two decades
[09:07] Artemesia Sandgrain: and also point to some of the early
writing and research that was done
[09:07] Artemesia Sandgrain: We also attempt early on to tackle “Myths
about Ethnography”

[09:07] Tom Bukowski notes if you’ve never read Celia’s earlier book
“The Interactive Book,” it’s just wonderful

[09:07] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂
[09:07] Artemesia Sandgrain: (thank you Tom)
[09:08] Artemesia Sandgrain: As Tom mentioned, we noticed a lot of
quantitative researchers were making somewhat disparaging remarks
about ethnography
[09:08] Artemesia Sandgrain: and there are a lot of myths and
misconceptions about it that we wanted to refute

[09:08] Tom Bukowski ethnography = talking about yourself (for instance)

[09:08] Artemesia Sandgrain: So for those of you who have been doing
ethnographic research, you have something to defend yourselves with

[09:08] Gentle Heron: That would make a book in itself!

[09:08] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂
[09:08] Artemesia Sandgrain: One of the most egregious is that
Ethongraphy is unscientific

[09:09] Maerian Dagger: (now we can be told to get a life in yet
another context, lol)

[09:09] Pooky Amsterdam: hahaha

[09:09] Tom Bukowski: lol

[09:09] Gentle Heron: Good one Maerian.

[09:09] Artemesia Sandgrain: Anyway I won’t go into details about that
but it’s a useful section.
[09:09] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom why don’t you talk about the specific
methods chapters…

[09:09] Tom Bukowski: Can’t remember the order for sure lol
[09:09] Tom Bukowski: but briefly so we can get ot the Q&A…

[09:09] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes…

[09:09] Tom Bukowski: We wanted to offer advice on the whole process
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: So we start with research design
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: You can’t do everything – what will you focus on?
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: How will you decide?
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: Then we talk about participant observation
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: Which note is not the same thing as just
leveling to 60 in WoW lol
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: and then interviews, focus groups,
[09:10] Tom Bukowski: archival work, when you might or might not want
to meet some interlocututors offline, etc

[09:11] Artemesia Sandgrain: One thing we focus on heavily is data collection
[09:11] Tom Bukowski: Then sections – two chapters – on ethics and
human subjects
[09:11] Artemesia Sandgrain: what kind of datat you actually want to collect
[09:11] Tom Bukowski: then some chapters on how to write up the
results of your research,

[09:11] Tom Bukowski: and particularly the issue of generalization

[09:11] Artemesia Sandgrain: Oh yes! Very important the human subjets stuff!

[09:11] Tom Bukowski: “So you just talked to these 50 or 100 people,
how do you know that it applies more broadly?”
[09:11] Tom Bukowski: That kind of thing, how to address that and
think about scope of claims
[09:12] Tom Bukowski: So you do’t overgenerlizat,

[09:12] Artemesia Sandgrain: …and also drawing in other researchers’ work.

[09:12] Tom Bukowski: *overgeneralize
[09:12] Tom Bukowski: But also don’t sell yourself short
[09:12] Tom Bukowski: and yes as Celia said, the importance of
colleagues and collaboration

[09:12] Gentle Heron: That’s a balance.

[09:12] Tom Bukowski: So we really had fun doing it and hope that
others will find it useful
[09:12] Tom Bukowski: It was certainly a great experience for the 4 of
us and something very different than what we usually get to do

[09:12] Artemesia Sandgrain: It’s really meant to be a very practical
guide…very nuts and bolts on how to do it.
[09:13] Artemesia Sandgrain: Shall we take questions?

[09:13] Tom Bukowski: Yep, looks like we have 15-20 mins for questions

[09:13] Artemesia Sandgrain: Perfect.

[09:13] Gentle Heron: Q- What can you learn from virtual worlds that
you can’t learn in the physical world?

[09:13] Tom Bukowski wonders if Gentle ever does *not* ask challenging
and profound questions lol

[09:14] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂

[09:14] Gentle Heron: Should I?

[09:14] Maerian Dagger: hehe

[09:14] Tom Bukowski: what’s your favorite color lol?
[09:14] Tom Bukowski: Okay, I’ll make a quick attempt

[09:14] Artemesia Sandgrain: Well one of the points of the book is
that the method itself is not that different between the real and the
virtual world….
[09:14] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂

[09:14] Tom Bukowski: oh good Celia first

[09:14] Gentle Heron: (even that second question was meant to be
challenging, Tom!)

[09:14] Zinnia Zauber: That color means a lot ot me!

[09:14] Pooky Amsterdam: blue

[09:14] Coughran Mayo: If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?

[09:14] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom…

[09:14] Pooky Amsterdam: artichoke

[09:14] Buffy Beale: lol Pooky of course!

[09:15] Tom Bukowski: Did “Tom…” mean I’m supposed to say something lol?

[09:15] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes
[09:15] Artemesia Sandgrain: lol

[09:15] Pooky Amsterdam: *its the Question thing*

[09:15] Tom Bukowski: k lol
[09:15] Tom Bukowski: So Gentle’s question was:

[09:15] Gentle Heron: True, Celia, the methods aren’t that
different… but why bother with us in virtual worlds?

[09:15] Tom Bukowski: Q- What can you learn from virtual worlds that
you can’t learn in the physical world?
[09:15] Tom Bukowski: So one big thing is that – you can learn about
vws themselves!
[09:15] Tom Bukowski: What happens in vws matters
[09:15] Tom Bukowski: They are not going to take over our lives, but
they are here to stay
[09:15] Tom Bukowski: we’ll engage with them with mobile devices,
[09:16] Tom Bukowski: computers, in education, medical, gaming
[09:16] Tom Bukowski: and ethnographers – we have to follow the culture
[09:16] Tom Bukowski: so if people are doing stuff online, we gotta
learn how to study that
[09:16] Tom Bukowski: and then also because we can learn about human
nature, human culture, so many things through vws

[09:16] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes and if I can add something…

[09:16] Tom Bukowski: just one quick thing
[09:16] Tom Bukowski: just was gonna add quickly

[09:17] Artemesia Sandgrain nods

[09:17] Tom Bukowski: so for instance, how people talk about but also
do gender in a vw, when you can change gender easily in many ways,

[09:17] Pooky Amsterdam: or species

[09:17] Tom Bukowski: that can tell us something about how people
think about gender in the physical world, because those ideas are
getting brought into the vw context and played with, transofrmed

[09:17] Artemesia Sandgrain: hehe

[09:17] Tom Bukowski: done for now

[09:17] Maerian Dagger: (meaningless of racism)

[09:17] Artemesia Sandgrain: I wanted to answer from a different angle…

[09:18] Maerian Dagger: (meaninglessness*)

[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: Much of what we do is driven by specific
research questions and these differ

[09:18] Tom Bukowski: isosoles?

[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: Acute!

[09:18] Gentle Heron chuckles

[09:18] Pooky Amsterdam: Right on right on

[09:18] Tom Bukowski: so long as not obtuse lol

[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom comes from a traditional anthropology
[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: he has a framework for understanding how
cultures work and is interested in how they work in simulated
environments such as this
[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: Whereas my background is as a game designer

[09:18] Gentle Heron: Maerian, I’m not sure there isn’t overt and
covert racism in virtual worlds, much like in the physical world.

[09:18] Artemesia Sandgrain: so my research questions tend to revolve
around the software design
[09:19] Artemesia Sandgrain: I’m interested in how people’s behavior
in groups intersects with the software design

[09:19] Riven Homewood: Sometimes racism takes different forms here
too – like discrimination against tinies or furries

[09:19] Artemesia Sandgrain: I’ve done a lot of comparative work
between Second Life and for instance

[09:19] Maerian Dagger: true, different expressions and ultimately
meaningless. l

[09:19] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes Riven let’s get to that in a minute!

[09:19] Maerian Dagger: fluidity is what I was refering to in context of gender.

[09:19] Artemesia Sandgrain: So what’s important is driven often by
our own research interests and areas of inquiry.

[09:20] Oronoque Westland: @Maerian…would you elaborate please…I
hear many claim that race has no meaning in VWs…I wonder how we can
explore that claim from an ethnographic perspective in a VW to test
its validity?

[09:20] Tom Bukowski nods

[09:20] Artemesia Sandgrain: I would like to tackle that question of
“racsim” as well
[09:20] Artemesia Sandgrain: One of the areas that I’ve researched is
“fictive ethnicity”
[09:20] Artemesia Sandgrain: I define this as an ethnic identity that
people adopt

[09:20] Nany (nany.kayo): lol, mee too, Artemesia

[09:20] Artemesia Sandgrain: in a fictional or fantasy context

[09:20] Maerian Dagger: there we go Artemisa. very interesting

[09:20] Fleep Tuque: (Love that term)

[09:20] Artemesia Sandgrain: So this started with Uru refugees

[09:20] Gentle Heron: Nany knows ALL about that!

[09:20] Maerian Dagger: love the term, too

[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: who were discriminated against when they
came to
[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: just as real world refugees are often
descriminated against
[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: And there we can see an issue for
instance with shared resource…
[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: they were were a large group and caused a
lot of lag
[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: and this created some hostility from
their neighbors
[09:21] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom and I have both noticed that furries
hare discriminated against in here.

[09:22] Tom Bukowski: yep…

[09:22] Artemesia Sandgrain: Tom maybe you can talk a little bit about
this as well…

[09:22] Tom Bukowski: Sure – just one quick thing
[09:22] Tom Bukowski: Many people who study race in the physical
[09:22] Tom Bukowski: world

[09:22] Lowri Mills: I have found that a global community of all
ethnic groups is more harmonious in a virtual world. Countries that
war, have individuals that work together, without politics of their

[09:22] Tom Bukowski whispers: Have talked about the idea of “racism
without race
[09:22] Tom Bukowski: That at a genetic level, we are on clines, there
are not distinct races, but racism is nonetheless real as are racial

[09:23] Gentle Heron nods to Lowri…. and encourages her to share her
background and why she can speak to that.

[09:23] Tom Bukowski: and looking at what happens with race in a place
like sl, and as people noted how it can link up to even things like
speciies, gender…
[09:23] Tom Bukowski: that tells us something about the range of human
possibilities for discrmination that could be illuminating for both
vws and the physical world….

[09:23] Lowri Mills: I manage a school that has over 69 countries
represented and have for over 5 years.

[09:23] Tom Bukowski: stopping for now, Celia add more if you want and
also I think we ahve time for a couple moe questions…

[09:23] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes and some of the research on community
talks about the fact that communities are by definition
exclusionary…to have an in-group you always have to have out-groups.

[09:24] Tom Bukowski: But how that “in and out” works can varyt

[09:24] Maerian Dagger: have you done some work about age and virtual

[09:24] Tom Bukowski: some groups are more porous then others – why?

[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: when people say everyone is beautiful here –
I htink well it just means a level playing field & then its not about
beauty anymore but WHO you are inside

[09:24] Gentle Heron: Although we humans clearly see and distinguish
among and discriminate against physical characteristics of other
humans, and although most humans can not distinguish one orangutan
from another orangutan, there is far less genetic variability in the
human genome than among the genomes of the great ape species.

[09:24] Artemesia Sandgrain: I’d like to address the question about age
[09:25] Artemesia Sandgrain: since that’s an area I’ve done quite a
bit of work in
[09:25] Artemesia Sandgrain: I’ve done several studies of players
primarily in the Baby Boomer demographic
[09:25] Artemesia Sandgrain: and found that this is a major population
in virtual worlds
[09:25] Artemesia Sandgrain: In fact I”m doing a demographic study right now!

[09:25] Gentle Heron hopes you are looking at disability status, Celia.

[09:26] Riven Homewood: LL won’t like that 🙂 – They work very hard
not to portray SL as an old folks world

[09:26] barbarathelibrarian Magic: (62 year old boomer here – very active in VW)

[09:26] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂

[09:26] Maerian Dagger: and issues of obesity. som many fat avis in here. 🙂

[09:26] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes of course Gentle!

[09:26] Riven Homewood: 66 here 🙂

[09:26] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes so I’ve found that there are quite a
lot of Baby Boomers playing games and in virtual worlds

[09:26] Gentle Heron: Hooray! Finally!

[09:26] Artemesia Sandgrain: many of them have disabilities of various
types which have a major role in why they are here.

[09:26] Oronoque Westland: yes, I am a boom boom boomer

[09:26] Maerian Dagger: <–55

[09:26] Artemesia Sandgrain: But also…my recent research shows that
older players are contributing to creative production here at a much
higher level than younger playres.

[09:27] Maerian Dagger: (I look just like this, really)

[09:27] Artemesia Sandgrain: Older players are more likely to be creative.

[09:27] Gentle Heron: We have so much more to draw from, Celia!

[09:27] Fleep Tuque: Question: Do you find that acceptance of virtual
ethnographies is growing, or as virtual worlds have sort of faded as a
fad, do you find it more challenging (in academia and elsewhere) to
have this kind of work published?

[09:27] Tom Bukowski: I can answer that

[09:27] Fleep Tuque: (Sorry have to go afk for a min, wantd to get it
out there in case missed the chance)

[09:27] Tom Bukowski: and then Celia can chime in

[09:27] Artemesia Sandgrain nods

[09:27] Tom Bukowski: np it will be in the chat
[09:28] Tom Bukowski: So first of all – it’s that hype cycle thing –
we are going through the trough of disappointment lol

[09:28] Artemesia Sandgrain: Haha….

[09:28] Tom Bukowski: As I think John Norton said – people always
overestimetae the short term impact of new technologies and
underestimate the long term impact

[09:28] Nany (nany.kayo): Actually, I learned at the recent Serious
Games conference that we have emerged from that phase, according to

[09:28] Tom Bukowski: so I don’t think vws will be a fad, in various
forms they are around and growning

[09:28] Nany (nany.kayo): Serious Play conference, I mean

[09:28] Tom Bukowski: And it’s precisely when we get past the fad
stage we can start asking interesting questions

[09:28] Coughran Mayo: according to the newest version, we are just
beginning to emerge into the Slope of Enlightenment!!

[09:28] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes and they’ve been a fad before…

[09:29] Coughran Mayo: at last

[09:29] Tom Bukowski: my first two books are about Indonesia

[09:29] Nany (nany.kayo): yep

[09:29] Oronoque Westland: I wonder if VWs are fading, or are they
just taking on new forms?

[09:29] barbarathelibrarian Magic: Kzero indicates we are on the
upswing from that

[09:29] Tom Bukowski: no one ever tells me – people have studied
Indonesia for 50 yhears now so why still do it? lol
[09:29] Tom Bukowski: So in terms of the acceptance and publishing, it
is still a big issue

[09:29] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): 🙂

[09:29] Tom Bukowski: for 5 years, until July 1 of this year
[09:29] Tom Bukowski: I was Editor-in-Chief of American Anthropologist

[09:29] Maerian Dagger: (some people acused Anthropology of being a fad…)

[09:29] Tom Bukowski: the flagship journal of the American
Anthropological Association
[09:30] Tom Bukowski: so I saw this up close
[09:30] Tom Bukowski: lol
[09:30] Tom Bukowski: Mariean

[09:30] Gentle Heron: Every session we hold where researchers report
on their findings to the Virtual Ability community, we pose more
questions than they offer answers. We’re not done yet!

[09:30] Oronoque Westland: interesting phrase – “Slope of
Enlightenment”- suggests an uphill climb

[09:30] Tom Bukowski: but anyway, there are lots of people in
anthropology still a bit afriad of technology, or just see people in
vws as losers lol

[09:30] Pooky Amsterdam: Parabola ofenlightment is scarier

[09:30] Tom Bukowski: and then with the rise of “big data,” which is
great for some stuff

[09:30] Gentle Heron: @Oro- it’s all about psychic entropy

[09:30] Tom Bukowski: some people claiming that the future is all numbers
[09:30] Tom Bukowski: but that said, I think there is more acceptance
[09:30] Tom Bukowski: that we need a broad RANGE of methods

[09:30] Pooky Amsterdam: 0 & 1? or are there others?

[09:31] Tom Bukowski: of questions and topics

[09:31] Nany (nany.kayo): Expected to be a long and not very steep
climb to leveling off.

[09:31] Artemesia Sandgrain: I want to chime in here when you’re done Tom.

[09:31] Tom Bukowski: there is so much to study and things change so
fast, but ALSO not everything is changing and we have to underrstand
that too.
[09:31] Tom Bukowski: stopping for now

[09:31] Artemesia Sandgrain: Two things.
[09:31] Artemesia Sandgrain: First about the research acceptability
[09:31] Artemesia Sandgrain: From my perspective it’s gotten A LOT better.

[09:31] Buffy Beale: that’s so great to hear!

[09:31] Artemesia Sandgrain: When I started doing this work there was
really only one or two journals to publish in
[09:32] Artemesia Sandgrain: Now there are multiple journals including
some specializing in virtual worlds

[09:32] Tom Bukowski nods, particularly when colleagues see how it
gets students interested…

[09:32] Artemesia Sandgrain: and also OTHER types of publications are
more open to what we do….

[09:32] Fleep Tuque: (I need a list of those journals!) 😉

[09:32] Dancers Yao: social science research methods have always been
part philosophy…virtual worlds offers more possible ways to explore

[09:32] Artemesia Sandgrain: So for instance we’re doing a panel on
the book at the Association of Itnernet Researchers conference
[09:32] Artemesia Sandgrain: SECOND…and this is about the virtual
world so-called “fad”
[09:32] Artemesia Sandgrain: Let me say one very simple thing: Don’t
believe the hype.
[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: For instance…
[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: Second Life was never as popular as
Linden’s PR machine mad it out to be
[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: and it’s certainly not unpopular now.

[09:33] Riven Homewood: Do you find that students actually are
interested? I hear so much about how young people hate SL

[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: Second Life is not the only virtual world
[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: 🙂
[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: They are also interested in games, and
worlds like Habbo

[09:33] Tom Bukowski: Yep, they don’t always find sl interesting but
it’s the general topic.

[09:33] Artemesia Sandgrain: I do a lot of research in
[09:34] Artemesia Sandgrain: But I have students who are very
interested in SL as well.

[09:34] Riven Homewood: Is There still here?

[09:34] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes it reopened a few months ago.

[09:34] Riven Homewood: Cool

[09:34] Tom Bukowski: Anthropologists spend years studying say a small
community in the mountains of Laos, and not everyone cases about Laos,
but the lessons learned from the research can have broader

[09:34] barbarathelibrarian Magic: <—is member of group in WOW –
Cognitive Dissonance

[09:34] Artemesia Sandgrain: Another myth….everyone thought it was
closed for months before it actually closed
[09:34] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes and Tom makes a very good point

[09:34] Glitteractica Cookie: they say there were hundreds of VW at
one point (that conference about VWs quoted that stat, but I’d be
nterested to know how many are active now. Mnay in kids/toy realm are

[09:34] Artemesia Sandgrain: Just because a place is popular doesn’t
mean we should study it and vice versa.

[09:34] Riven Homewood: Me too, Barbara 🙂

[09:34] Nany (nany.kayo): SL is a fairly good platform for gaming. It
has some useful features.

[09:35] Maerian Dagger: <–first time in SL in over two years, spends
all her time in nonprofit in Inworldz

[09:35] Artemesia Sandgrain: Also SL is diverse….I’m doing some
research on RP now which is a new aera for me.

[09:35] Glitteractica Cookie: inworldz?

[09:35] Artemesia Sandgrain: Also can I add one thing about this place
as well???

[09:35] Nany (nany.kayo): SL is very good for roleplay games

[09:35] Tom Bukowski: arrrr

[09:35] Artemesia Sandgrain: One of my recent studies turned out this
finding that there is a lot of nonprofit work going on in Second Life.
[09:36] Artemesia Sandgrain: In fact some of our subjects for one
study were regulars here.
[09:36] Artemesia Sandgrain: Okay…I think we may be out of
time…Tom did you have anything else?

[09:36] Glitteractica Cookie: yes, we are all nonprofits here,
artemisia. Not sure of that much in terms of Nonprofit work outside of
the NPC in SL these days, but there used to be a lot

[09:36] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes there is

[09:36] Tom Bukowski: I think time is about up. But thank you so much
for coming, Celia and I are so flattered by all this interest, and
would be happy to come back anywtime!

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: This has been so wonderful!

[09:37] Artemesia Sandgrain: We had a pub for instance where all their
income went to a nonprofit.
[09:37] Artemesia Sandgrain: Yes! Really great to see so many people here!

[09:37] Riven Homewood: West of Ireland did that

[09:37] barbarathelibrarian Magic: I want to thank you for writing
this book, I quoted you in your passage about culture and changing
societies – in my dissertation

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys! And, I hope that people know
that you will be speaking again soon!

[09:37] Tom Bukowski: Please do get the free copy of the first chapter
of our book by clicking on the box, or you can download it as a free
PDF from the princeton website

[09:37] Eliza (eliza.madrigal): great talk and questions, thanks Tom,
Artemesia, everyone

[09:37] Tom Bukowski:

[09:37] Gentle Heron: Thank you Tom and Celia for presenting today.

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: I have some info on your next inworld gig.

[09:38] Glitteractica Cookie: Yes, thanks very much

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: SPECIAL MEETING: An Interview with Tom
Boellstorff (Tom Bukowski) and Celia Pearce (Artemesia Sandgrain). Tom

[09:38] Riven Homewood: Thanks so much – really interesting and informative

[09:38] Buffy Beale: Always great to see you Tom and thanks again to
you and Artemesia for coming!

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: AJ Kelton (AJ Brooks) will conduct this voice
interview in the VWER Formal Amphitheater.

[09:38] Artemesia Sandgrain: Thank you!

[09:38] Tom Bukowski: Thank you Buffy

[09:38] Peperi Franizzi: Thank you!

[09:38] Fleep Tuque APPLAUDS!!!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: darn, VOICE??????

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Where: BGSU Community 54/85/25
When: Thursday, 8/30/12, 11:30 AM SLT

[09:38] Tom Bukowski: oh yes, that will be fun too!

[09:38] VesaV. (veilvali): Very interesting indeed, thanks!

[09:38] Ridvan-Researcher (ridvan.atolia): thanks Tom and Artemesia
look forward to read it

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber:

[09:38] Delia Lake: Thank you, Tom and Artemesia. this was great!

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys!

[09:38] Bear (bear.silvershade): Thank you, this was an excellent presentation

[09:38] Zotarah Shepherd: Thank you both

[09:38] Glitteractica Cookie: agreed

[09:38] Artemesia Sandgrain: Thank you and thanks for coming eveyrone!

[09:39] Tom Bukowski: yw, thanks for much for this!

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Awesomesauce!

[09:39] Maerian Dagger: yes thanks so much. I am SO sorry I was late!

[09:39] Fleep Tuque: Thanks again Tom always great to see you in world. 🙂

[09:39] Tom Bukowski: Please im me, friend me, whatever anytime, hope
to have time to catch up with all of you more

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Please be sure to get your chapter of the book!

[09:39] Gentle Heron: Remember, latecomers, NPC posts transcripts of
their text meetings:

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: It has been super having you guys join us!

[09:39] Artemesia Sandgrain: (Excuse me I have to scoot for a rw appointment)

[09:39] Tom Bukowski: it’s easier to read inworld if you rez it on
something, but you can also wear it as a HUD

[09:39] Artemesia Sandgrain: Thanks for having us Zinnia!

[09:40] Tom Bukowski: I gotta go too, but hope to talk to all of you soon!!!!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: A pleasure!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Please take care!

[09:40] Tom Bukowski waves warmly and poofs

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Before we continue on our agenda…
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: I wanted to remind our guests to the Nonprofit Commons..
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: We meet regularly on Fridays at 8:30 – 10:00 AM
SLT at the Plush Amphitheater. We believe that Second Life is a
wonderful place to educate, inspire, and work together to assist our
fellow nonprofit supporters. You do not have to be a tenant of the
Nonprofit Commons to get involved with our community. We welcome all
who wish to join us as partners, collaborators, and supporters.
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Just sharing about our community!

[09:41] Buffy Beale: Pass on the word… free office space for Nonprofits too 🙂

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

[09:41] Klara Otsuka: (Many thanks all, I have to leave now – but
thanks for letting me come along!) 🙂

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Buffy!
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:42] Buffy Beale: bye Klara 🙂

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, so I am mixing it up a little today.
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have any Open Mic Announcements. I
know Tank is first.

[09:42] Riven Homewood: I need to go too – thanks so much for doing
this – it was great to see you all again and be reminded of what an
active group you are

[09:43] Buffy Beale: nice to see you Riven thanks for coming

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Riven!

[09:43] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): nods

[09:43] Fleep Tuque: (Bye Riven!)

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Tank, please share!

[09:43] Pooky Amsterdam: Thisis the <3 & soul of so much
[09:43] Pooky Amsterdam: bye Riven!

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pooky!

[09:43] Glitteractica Cookie: We have four islands, not just this
amphitheater too, so check out our archipelago after the meeting

[09:44] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): I just started my radio
station and looking to share what the non profits both inworld and
real life so if you have any psa’s or any other type of recorded audio
that you would like to share such as poems etc
[09:44] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): please let me know
[09:44] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): also if you would to have
stream for your place let me know

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: If you have every attended CommonGround, you
know how amazing Tank is as a DJ and sharing important info.
[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Please show your support for his efforts!
[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Anymore with that, Tank?

[09:46] Buffy Beale: cheering for Tank!

[09:46] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau):
[09:46] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): that is the online page

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Super!
[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:47] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): right now i have a psa
from chayen for protect yoursself1
[09:47] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): thats all

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Great!!! Gentle has some announcements.

[09:47] Gentle Heron: The transcript of Tom’s presentation at Virtual
Ability’s IDRAC2012 conference, titled “A Discussion about Virtual
Communities of Persons with Disabilities” is posted here:

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Gentle, please.

[09:47] Gentle Heron: And a report of research done in Second Life!
MON Aug 27, 10am PDT/SLT
[09:47] Gentle Heron: “Benefits of Virtual Worlds for People with
Lifelong Disability”
PRESENTER: Kenyon Serenity, Researcher, Molde University College, Norway

[09:47] Buffy Beale: good one Gentle!

[09:47] Gentle Heron: Please join us at Sojourner Auditorium on Monday
to hear her report on her research study.
Virtual Ability (53,172,23)

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[09:48] Gentle Heron: (that’s all this week)

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Gentle!
[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Other announcements?

[09:49] Buffy Beale: one little one
[09:49] Buffy Beale: 🙂

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Go for it Buffy!

[09:49] Buffy Beale: Today I’m 6 yrs old and it seems so long ago I
dropped that note on Glitters mailbox
[09:49] Buffy Beale: which led to her inviting me here 🙂

[09:50] Gentle Heron: Happy Birthday, Buffy

[09:50] Maerian Dagger: happy rez day Buffy

[09:50] Buffy Beale: for Bridges and I just wanted to thank you again
Glitter that day changed my life

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Happy Rez Day Buffy!

[09:50] Buffy Beale: in a good way
[09:50] Buffy Beale: and for Bridges too 🙂

[09:50] Nany (nany.kayo): Happy Rez Day!

[09:50] Zotarah Shepherd: Happy Rezday Buffy!!!

[09:50] Buffy Beale: long live TechSoup

[09:50] Glitteractica Cookie: Wow- I’m certainly glad I received that
note and invited you!

[09:50] Fleep Tuque: Happy rezday indeed!

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: That is so amazing!

[09:50] Buffy Beale: lol hard enough to track RL birthdays so thanks

[09:50] Fleep Tuque: 🙂

[09:50] VesaV. (veilvali): Happy Birthday!

[09:50] Buffy Beale: you rock it Glitter

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy! Buffy! Buffy!

[09:50] Glitteractica Cookie: Buffy is one of our biggest evangelists
and supporters across all of our activities

[09:50] Fleep Tuque: Oldbies unite!
[09:50] Fleep Tuque: 😉

[09:50] Buffy Beale: lol Z

[09:51] Glitteractica Cookie: her name comes up as a model online
citizen, a super user, when I’m describing one in meetings

[09:51] Buffy Beale: that’s it 🙂
[09:51] Buffy Beale: ohh Glitter ty

[09:51] Glitteractica Cookie: really… ask Bulaklak, I invoke yr name
all the time

[09:51] Glitteractica Cookie: 🙂

[09:51] Buffy Beale: this place is run by people who care and it’s the
best group I’ve ever been in
[09:52] Buffy Beale: in either life 🙂

[09:52] yumm group hug: Click while in use to get position setup dialog.

[09:52] Buffy Beale: ok that’s it thanks

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Well!

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: awww

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: We need a group Hug for that!

[09:52] Maerian Dagger: I have found it very well organized and great
longevity. So I echo Buffy’s praise

[09:52] Buffy Beale: hahah yes!

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks all

[09:52] Maerian Dagger: EVen though I am never around here. lol

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Join me up front for the hug!

[09:52] Maerian Dagger: I read the transcripts usually

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: a community is only as good as its
members and volunteers

[09:53] Buffy Beale: oooo ok and that’s great you’re here today Maerian

[09:53] Glitteractica Cookie: so thanks to all of you newbies and oldbies

[09:53] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): WOOOOOTASTIC

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: if you click on the white disk below me you can hug us!

[09:53] Buffy Beale: yayy a group hug

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Come on!

[09:53] Buffy Beale: come click on the disk everyone 🙂

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Group Hug!!!

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[09:53] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay

[09:53] Buffy Beale: haha an NPC first

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: This has been amazing meeting!

[09:54] Buffy Beale: Z you might have to edit the disk and move it
aside to others can get it

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT
Want to learn new virtual world skills or find out how you can
volunteer at NPC, visit with the Mentors and they can help!

[09:54] Tori Landau: hugs and ty for great meeting °͜°

[09:54] Maerian Dagger: hugs to all and thanks.

[09:54] Tilly-Floss (hjeidi): ty all

[09:54] Pancha Enzyme: thanks all 🙂 see you again!

[09:54] Fleep Tuque: Great to see everyone and thanks again for the
reminder Gentle!

[09:54] VesaV. (veilvali): Oh, that meeting is soon!

[09:54] Gentle Heron: Someone lift your feet so folks can see the white disk!

[09:54] Maerian Dagger: I am going to poof off to the wild frontiers
of the grid….

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: I think I messed it up

[09:54] Fleep Tuque waves!

[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: Hugging you all

[09:54] Tori Landau: got to go, rl calls °͜° See you all on Mon!

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: let me try again

[09:54] Buffy Beale: yayyy for the group hug

[09:54] Glitteractica Cookie: bye all

[09:54] Maerian Dagger: Thanks to you all for this.

[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: will talk soon and ty so much for this amazing meeting

[09:55] Buffy Beale: bye Tori thanks for coming

[09:55] Fleep Tuque: (Hugs back Pooky!)

[09:55] Peperi Franizzi: Thanks everyone, I’m gonna head out too! 🙂

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you everyone!

[09:55] Zotarah Shepherd: I think the SL group hug record is 40 so I
know this will hold all of us

[09:55] Peperi Franizzi: Looking forward to seeing you soon! 🙂

[09:55] Buffy Beale: see you Pep keep on writing 🙂

[09:55] Pooky Amsterdam: see you soon!

[09:55] Peperi Franizzi: thank you!

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Sorry!

[09:55] Gentle Heron: You just have to look between the feet to find
the white disk to click on then SIT

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: I meses it up

[09:55] Fleep Tuque: lol, I’m in the middle!

[09:55] Fleep Tuque feels loves.

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:55] Buffy Beale: hehe yay Fleep feel the loveee

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Hugs hugs!

[09:55] Fleep Tuque: 😉

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: See you guys next week!

[09:56] Zotarah Shepherd: Hugging is good for health too.

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[09:56] Brena Benoir: lol

[09:56] Fleep Tuque: laugh tc all, have a great weekend! *poofs*

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript of August 17 Nonprofit Commons Meeting – Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life with Pam Broviak

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 17, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
9:55 “Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements


[08:30] Buffy Beale: Good day everyone

[08:30] bulaklak: hi, buffy

[08:30] Buffy Beale: hi bulaklak 🙂

[08:30] Merlin Moonshadow: Hi, Buffy!

[08:30] Tori Landau: Hi Buffy and everyone else and got a mug of water
ty Zinnia °͜°

[08:31] Brennan Blaylock: Hello Buffy!

[08:31] Buffy Beale: Hi hi hi all 🙂

[08:31] Siculus: hi

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: ah good Tori!

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Okay! Let’s get started!
[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Hi there!
[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: I am Zinnia and welcome to the Nonprofit Commons!
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: AGENDA

8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

9:55 “Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam
Broviak / Pam Renoir

9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Here is our Agenda for today!
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: So we start with introductions!

[08:32] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:32] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society,
Wisconsin USA

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Please share your real name, org, location, and
online links, please.

[08:32] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:32] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1,Inc., Baltimore,
MD,,, @PY1US

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: This information will be made public.

[08:33] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:33] Brennan Blaylock: Good Morning! Claudia Richards, AAUW
Washington, DC @AAUW on Twitter

[08:33] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan tenby, Online Community and Social
Media Director, TechSoup and The Nonprofit Commons, San Francisc, CA
USA @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:33] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager Online Community and
Social Media, TechSoup Global, San Francisco, CA, USA, @TechSoup

[08:33] Merlin Moonshadow: Michael Smith, Emory University

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: If you are coming in a little late to our
meetings, please still introduce yourself to us.

[08:33] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:33] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, Arizona, Mexico and
On the Road, @ozma

[08:33] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pam Broviak, Virtual Vision 2020,
Geneva (IL-USA),

[08:33] Svea Morane: Mayo Clinic,

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Encourage folks to do that, please.

[08:34] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Magic Pathfinder
(any1.gynoid), Faculty at New Citizens Inc (NCI), Teaching hands-on
Artificial Intelligence and Pathfinding in Second Life

[08:34] Tori Landau: Patricia Dean, volunteer event coordinator for
the Open University’s Deep Think sims.

[08:34] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup
Global, SF, Ca, @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: We have a great bunch of folks here today!
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Our meetings are always open to the public and
it is a wonderful way to learn and connect with other people who do
good for the common good.
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Did everyone get to introduce themselves?

[08:35] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City
University of New York

[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, Ca.
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Please state your real name, org, location, and
online links including twitter handles if you got them.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Our transcripts will be made public.
[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I don’t know about you guys, but I get lots of
great new people to follow on twitter after the meetings!

[08:37] bulaklak: Absolutely!

[08:37] Coughran Mayo: same here

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I love it!

[08:37] Coughran Mayo says @Coughran, @Innovaision

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: lol
[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Remember, if you are ever late to a meeting,
please introduce yourself in chat.

[08:38] Thynka Little: LuAnn Phillips,USDA Cooperative Extension
Service, Albany NY,,,

[08:38] Buffy Beale: lol C

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: I know I am saying this like 80 million times today.

[08:39] Dave12 Kline: Dave Broviak

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: I just want to encourage folks to be welcome and known.

[08:39] Siculus: rik lee @rik_na1

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Our meetings are also a great time to check out
other people’s profiles and revamp your own.

[08:39] Svea Morane quick cleans up his profile 😉

[08:39] bulaklak: Good reminder, Zinnia. Mine could probably use a sprucing.

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: How many open their profiles right then?
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: ah! Yes!

[08:40] Tori Landau: blushes lol

[08:40] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Caryn Heilman, Topia Arts Center in
the Berkshires of NW MA,, @topiaartscenter

[08:40] Merlin Moonshadow checks Zinnia’s profile

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: I am always giving homework! lol

[08:40] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare,
Kirksville, MO www., @brenabenoir @PreferredFamily

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: hehe Do it Merlin!

TechSoup Announcements

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: okay!
[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: TechSoup Announcements

[08:40] bulaklak: Hallo, folks!

[08:41] Buffy Beale: hi bulaklak 🙂

[08:41] bulaklak: So, as we spoke about a few weeks ago, TechSoup
partnered with Zero Divide and the Mozilla Ignite folks on an Idea Jam
that posed the question: what if the internet had no limits?
[08:41] bulaklak: The event was excellent with a ton of energy and great ideas.
[08:42] bulaklak: For example, the Green team proposed capturing the
excess energy from the dancefloor at clubs to power the grid.
[08:42] bulaklak: Here is a recap of the entire evening with all of
the ideas that came out of it
[08:42] bulaklak:
[08:42] bulaklak: You can still submit ideas up through September 20
[08:43] bulaklak: and there is a $5k cash prize to help realize your
idea if it is ultimately picked
[08:43] bulaklak: Next Wednesday, August 22, we have the summer
edition of our mostly monthly OCTRIBE meetup for community managers
and those interested in community building
[08:44] bulaklak: We are going to do an open forum / roundtable
discussion at TechSoup HQ in SF

[08:44] Glitteractica Cookie: And those interested in social media in general

[08:44] bulaklak: But we will be live streaming to Adobe Connect and
will send that link around to anyone who registers

[08:44] bulaklak: Here is where to register
[08:44] bulaklak:

[08:45] Glitteractica Cookie: and taking questions from the virtual participants

[08:46] bulaklak: Lastly, as Glitter noted last week, our team is
hiring. If you are or know an amazing on and offline events producer
in the Bay Area (yes, it’s a local job out of our SF office) then here
is the info
[08:46] bulaklak:
[08:46] bulaklak: Thanks, all! Have a great meeting and awesome weekend!

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks bulaklak

[08:47] Zinnia Zauber: Do we have more TechSoup news?

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: Alebez?

[08:47] alebez: nope

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: anything we’ve forgotten?
[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: Oh wait, I have one more

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: great

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: We are starting a breakfast speaker
series for Nonprofit tech folks in early October

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: so, if you are in the SF Bay Area,
please join us. First one is on Oct 2
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: not sure about whether we will live
stream into SL, but the live, in person series starts oct 2
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: breakfast on us
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: ok, that is all

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Nice!
[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Well, I know that we will all love it if more
cool events like that are streamed inworld for us.

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: topic is free tech resources and classes
for nonprofits and friends of nonprofits
[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: it would be great to see some of you there

[08:49] bulaklak: oh great topic

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: We are thankful that you look into providing that.

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: We are happy to provide it

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: We will have to bring our own donuts. 🙂
[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Super, thank you for all the TechSoup News!

Mentors Central

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors Central
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Last week we discussed our upcoming NPC Birthday!
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: We have Mentors that are taking names and ideas
for our special event on Sept 21.
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy, Ozma, and Brena are taking names!
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: We also have our meeting after this meeting to
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you been with the Nonprofit Commons
from the start?

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: me
[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: ;-P

[08:53] Buffy Beale: hand up 🙂

[08:53] Oronoque Westland: since the first public meeting

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: wow!

[08:53] Ozma Malibu: yep

[08:53] Glitteractica Cookie: coughran has been

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Look at that!

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: since stone circle days 🙂

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: I remember reading about you all and had to
wait until I got cable to finally make it here!

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: there are lots from when we were on info isle
[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: many are still here

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: That is really something to celebrate!

[08:54] Glitteractica Cookie: archives are all on the npsl wiki

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: Rik, Rhiannon from time to time

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Please be sure to connect with the Mentors
about sharing your story during our celebration.

[08:55] Buffy Beale: I remember dancing for joy when I got the second
last office here 🙂

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: lol That is great, Buffy! We all are in this together!

[08:55] Ozma Malibu: Buffy you were right next to the Floaters office

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: How cool!

[08:55] Buffy Beale: yup we were neighbours 🙂

[08:56] Oronoque Westland: I am the permanent fly on the wall

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please join us Sept 21, mark your cal!
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: We will have speakers, music, and of course dancing!

[08:56] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Is there audio?

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: We are in chat, Gridjumper.

“Virtual Vision 2020 – a community plan for Second Life” with Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: It is time for our speaker today!

[08:57] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): ok just checking wan’t sure if it was me

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Pam Broviak / Pam Renoir is going to discuss
Virtual Vision 2020, an initiative to develop a plan for the Second
Life community.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Pam is a licensed professional engineer with 30
years of experience in public works, most of which was spent working
in local government.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Since joining Second Life in late 2006, she has
been exploring how to leverage virtual world technology in delivering
engineering and government services.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Recently she has been facilitating plans for
virtual communities by applying planning concepts traditionally used
for physical spaces.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber:
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: I met Pam in DC in May and excited to have her
share with us this plan!
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Please welcome Pam!

[08:58] Gentle Heron applauds for Pam and for community planning.

[08:58] Merlin Moonshadow applauds

[08:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂 Hello everyone and thank you for
having me here today

[08:58] Buffy Beale: yay Pam!

[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Let me first share a general
explanation of what Virtual Vision is all about:
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Virtual Vision 2020 is an attempt to
capture the community’s thoughts, ideas, opinions, and goals for
Second Life.
[08:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Modeled off the community planning
process that takes place in communities all across the world, this
virtual plan can help the Second Life community define itself, set
goals for its future, and offer a roadmap for success.
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Before starting down this road, it’s
important to explore this question: What is a community plan?
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): To paraphrase an ICMA’s publication,
A community plan helps people anticipate and prepare for their
collective future.
[09:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): More specifically it explains why
the plan is needed, identifies community goals and objectives,
compares options and sets priorities, and suggests actions and
solutions and explores how well they might meet expectations of the
[09:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It also identifies who might be best
positioned to carry out those actions or implement those solutions.
And finally it presents a method to measure the success of the plan.
[09:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I was wondering if any of you have
participated in a community plan in your city or county?

[09:02] Gentle Heron has participated in community planning for her SL

[09:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir) whispers: Gentle – what was the
timeline for your plan

[09:02] Ethelred Weatherwax: Yes

[09:02] bulaklak: What is the ICMA?

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ICMA = International City/County
Management Association

[09:03] bulaklak: thanks

[09:03] Dancers Yao: in my RL city…Los Angeles

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Pam, is it okay for people to ask questions
along the way or do you want them at the end?

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): that organization provides guidance
to management of communities

[09:03] Tori Landau: Same as Gentle, was when the OU had a social
island. I was involved with the planning for the community then.

[09:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, please ask as I speak or feel
free to chat while i talk

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: super, thank you!

[09:03] Oronoque Westland: Pam Broviak (pam.renoir) whispers: Gentle –
what was the timeline for your plan

[09:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia – you can change the slide

[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:04] Ozma Malibu: wow Pam this is good timing, I am setting out to
organize my RL community so our SL gallery can manifest in a RL
historic district, first have to complete all the local paperwork as
we have national status now.
[09:05] Ozma Malibu: I am all ears. eyes.

[09:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – that is awesome! I believe
there is benefit to a RL/SL experience in planning
[09:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we have much to learn from each environment
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So one question that might be asked
in here is: But why do we need a plan?
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Again from ICMA, communities are
layers of human interaction and activity.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And these interactions can lead to a
community’s confusion about its identity and purpose when they as a
whole occur with no guidance, purpose, or goal in mind.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): This also leads to a future vision
that is unclear and not defined.
[09:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): One consequence is that people
become hesitant about investing time and money in that community.
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Obviously not every action occurring
in a community is done for the purpose of carrying out the plan’s
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): But if no actions take place with a
plan in mind, the community risks adequately providing for its

[09:07] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Looking at the time zones one
possible solution would be to work with colleagues in differnt time
zones to make most use of space – leverage $$
[09:07] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): while some sleep other use the sapce
[09:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): exactly – it is a huge advantage of
the virtual space we can leverage

[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): While much of this happens on a
subtle level, I’ll give one of the more obvious examples of why this
is important.
[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Take Las Vegas – what do we think of
when we hear Las Vegas? That community spent years developing that
[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): What do all of you think of when you
hear Las Vegas?

[09:08] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): gambling

[09:08] Oronoque Westland: losing my money

[09:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): 🙂

[09:09] Thynka Little: excessive energy use

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): an oasis in the middle of a desert

[09:09] Dancers Yao: Elvis

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: party

[09:09] bulaklak: unreality

[09:09] Ethelred Weatherwax: foreclosed houses

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Maing lemonade out of lemons

[09:09] Zotarah Shepherd: Gambling, entertainment

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: homeless in tunnels

[09:09] bulaklak: and buffets

[09:09] Thynka Little: dry heat

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): fun

[09:09] Ozma Malibu: haha yes buffets

[09:09] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): sin city

[09:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: Where I buy all my sequins!

[09:10] Siculus: crime

[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, one of the more well-branded
communities years in the making
[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If you manage a large research
facility focusing on the study of corn and soybeans, would the lot
next to the Bellagio be a good investment as a future location for
your business?

[09:10] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): It has an identity for sure

[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Probably not.
[09:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And if you had any doubts, you could
be sure of this by studying that area’s community plan.
[09:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So while plans can drive investment,
they need to help ensure the most successful investment will take

[09:11] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): They have one of the largest
school districts in the country – Clark County

[09:11] Thynka Little:

[09:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So if you want to open a gambling
place – it’s a great place, but maybe not so much for other types of
[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): They have a huge employment base
because of the strip so many children
[09:12] bulaklak: Fascinating. Never thought of Vegas in terms of
identity management before, but I’ll never look at it without that
lens again.
[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): A community’s identity is critical
for its economic development

[09:12] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Hmmm so is SLs identity a problem for us?

[09:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, Gridjumper, This will be a
critical component of a plan for Second Life.

[09:13] Buffy Beale: good question Tanya

[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia – you can change the slide
[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): In developing a plan for the Second
Life community, it seems logical to follow the process used in the
physical world.

[09:13] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:13] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): SLs identity is tied to LInden and
what they see as their future – do we know what that is?

[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): thanks 🙂
[09:13] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Grid – that is the challenge and why
I had hoped they would participate in this effort. But I do not see
that happening

[09:13] Lotta Flux: good point, gridjumper

[09:13] Gentle Heron: We may be seeing hints with the link to Steam.

[09:14] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): They are certainly watching
[09:14] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): if not participating

[09:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It’s been successfully used for a
long time, and there are many examples to follow. However, we need to
adapt it to our virtual environment.
[09:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): These are the categories I’ve set up
so far to try to capture the most important sectors without getting
too detailed.

[09:15] Buffy Beale: One category I would think is Recreation (fun stuff)
[09:15] Buffy Beale: ohh silly me I see it now 🙂 scratch that

[09:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes recreation is a critical
component for our quality of life

[09:16] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Bandwith is a necessity

[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): i would definitely be interested in
feedback on these
[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, i would place bandwidth in the
infrastructure and services category
[09:16] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Next slide please 🙂
[09:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And this slide lays out the general
steps we will follow in developing the plan.

[09:17] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Right now, we are in the beginning phases.

[09:17] Ozma Malibu: there are 2 kinds of education going on:
SL-related (highly necessary) and educators from outside investigating
how SL can contribute to RL/distance ed
[09:17] Ozma Malibu: the latter are having trouble with financing now

[09:17] Thynka Little: the SL business plan and the community plan
would not be one and the same.

[09:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Ozma – education of us both
for RL and SL and us using education for RL purposes
[09:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thynka – I believe you are correct –
although the plan for the community can address the business side of
it, a more detailed plan would help the business aspect much like a
downtown plan is used as a subplan for RL spaces

[09:19] Oronoque Westland: ? – Pam pls clarify who “we” is

[09:19] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): for the plan? the we would be anyone
on the planning team – it is a volunteer effort open to anyone who
wants to help

[09:20] Merlin Moonshadow: How do you propose to implement the plan?
Test communities that might then become part of an overall community?
Obviously, there won’t be a full implementation without Lindn Lab’s

[09:20] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): so far I have only a few volunteers
– Thynka, Sandy Adam, and Eric Hackathorn

[09:20] Oronoque Westland: thank you

[09:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin – you are correct – the best
implementation would have the support of LL because only they can
accomplish some of the goals. The plan should identify the best group
for implementation of each objective/goal
[09:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Then it would be up to those groups
to accept the responsibility for working towards that goal
[09:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Just like a RL plan that might
identify land owners or organizations, in the end only they can choose
to implement the suggestions
[09:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So far we’ve had two workshops that
Georgianna Blackburn and I hosted at SL9B. And we are planning to host
many more.

[09:23] Merlin Moonshadow: And there’s still value in a voluntary
grass-roots effort to build a community plan.

[09:23] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): I would like to help this
effort. I think about these issues constantly.

[09:23] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, Merlin that is what I finally
realized after watching SL9B

[09:23] Ozma Malibu: do you have RL educators involved, who are trying
to hang on here?

[09:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It would be great to have as many of
you as possible help develop this plan- I really believe it would help
all of us so much as a community

[09:24] Oronoque Westland: I am hanging on by a thread

[09:24] Sarvana Haalan: It has been an uphill effort… with so little
funding 🙁

[09:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – I have talked to some people
in the education community – they are a vital component of this plan.
But I haven’t yet had a chance to present the idea to them

[09:24] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): There is a group of educators
associated with ISTE (SIGVE) they have a small space and there are
higher ed communities here and there

[09:25] Zotarah Shepherd: ISTE used to have 4 sims and weekly speakers
and a inworld TV show

[09:25] Oronoque Westland: @Pam, perhaps you could present this idea
to a VWER round table

[09:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Education is critical for our
success as a community – just as true here as in RL

[09:25] Merlin Moonshadow: VWBPE

[09:26] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): ISTE now has a small space and
monthly speakers

[09:26] Zotarah Shepherd nods

[09:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Oronoque – I would love to do that
and hope that some educators would volunteer to be on our planning
[09:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ISTE would be a great partner i nthis
[09:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So something I’ve been amazed about
and Something I hadn’t initially considered, but quickly realized was
the amazing amount of constructive feedback the Second Life community
provides online.

[09:28] Sarvana Haalan: indeed

[09:28] Ozma Malibu: We are losing our education island end of
December unless we find 2 more ppl/groups willing to share. just btw.

[09:28] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It will be so helpful to capture
that information and use it in the development of the plan. This is
something that does not yet happen in our physical communities, but
hopefully someday will.

[09:28] Merlin Moonshadow: Since SL is a community of communities, how
can we define one single community to base a plan on?

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin – that is a great question i often see

[09:29] Ozma Malibu: a community of interwined communities, really

[09:29] Thynka Little: certainly parts of it are very vocal, and this
initiative would be looking to draw out participation from as broad a
user base as possible

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I guess I have approached it as we
do in our physical communities

[09:29] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): perhaps a database of all the
islands and timeframes of rent running out

[09:29] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That is true Thynka

[09:29] Sarvana Haalan: Would th eplan help connect the communities
for collaborative activities?

[09:30] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): If ppl have a similar purpose but
are using the same during differnt times it could work

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Sarvana – it could very much
help provide a plan for assisting with those types of efforts which
might be critical to our success

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ok, so Once we have collected
feedback, we can create a draft plan. Then we’ll throw it out to the
community for review and comments. We can revise the plan based on the
information we receive and then finally publish. The plan can then be
used to help all of us work toward common goals to ensure our future
success as a community.

[09:30] Sarvana Haalan: Making “community” more than a word

[09:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Next slide please 🙂
[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): There are many ways to participate
in this effort. I’ve listed them on this slide.

[09:31] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): I like the range of possibilities

[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And again, please let me know if you
want to help in any way. It is definitely an open, community effort
[09:31] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): or if you have any other ideas
definitely bring them up anytime
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We can go on to the next slide
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): This is the last slide: You can
follow the progress of the plan on the Virtual Vision 2020 Website at or by joining our Second Life group.
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The last two things I want to
mention are that the plan will be published as a public domain
document – it will be most useful if there is no specific owner of the
[09:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and again I want to add that this is
a volunteer effort by the community and not affiliated with Linden Lab
in any way. Although I believe it would be beneficial to have their
involvement, and I tried to propose the idea to them, they expressed
no interest at all in leading the effort.

[09:33] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): no interest in LEADING – any
interest in following?

[09:33] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We have a few minutes left for
feedback and questions but feel free to ask anything

[09:33] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): supportin?
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): LL imean

[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I could only hope they would
participate somehow – maybe eventually LL will
[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): it would be so much better if we can
all work together

[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Have you considered any work in Opensim?
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Lots of educational comunities have moved
[09:34] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): mostly due to pricing

[09:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I do believe eventually in OS we
will have to do the same thing. We are working on a community plan
right now in MOSES

[09:35] Sarvana Haalan: any plans for Kitely?

[09:35] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Well it could start with support –
for and among eachohter

[09:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I think Kitely is a great service
and very useful. Once they interconnect the sims it will also become
more of a regular community and could eventually benefit from a plan

[09:35] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): i believe that was on your list

[09:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gridjumper – because the edu
community is so large and active, they probably would benefit from a
plan like Thynka suggested for the business community. That plan would
probably look at all worlds in its implementation.

[09:37] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): how do you join the group in sl?

[09:37] Oronoque Westland: ? – is there a need to clarify the
perspective the plan is coming from…seems to me we are more
advocates than we are community planners

[09:37] Sarvana Haalan: awesome… this gives quite a bit to share
with “doubting” colleagues when discussing our virtual “community”

[09:37] Thynka Little: i think of the community as separate and
distinct from any particular platform

[09:38] Veri Oddfellow: Oh, should have said before … Brad Lewis,
Great Strides, Damascus, MD Sorry so

[09:38] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Oronoque – the plan will state that
objective. We are advocates but now are moving into planning mode.
It’s either that or allow others to choose our destiny

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: I just joined via your Profile group listing

[09:38] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): One way to share with the doubters
– since it is not easy to bring them here – is Machinima or live

[09:38] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Sarvana- yes you can find the
group in my profile and join. Thanks!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: Just because we live next door to each other in
RL doesn’t mean we belong to the same community (or communities). Only
in the sense that we both pay taxes to the same entity, which gets to
make a “community plan” that affects how they run a sewer line to both
of us. We don’t either one of us get to choose the sewer line. The
tax-collecting entity does that.

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: Me too,.. Sally S.Cherry, Baltimore, MD

[09:38] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Virtual Vision 2020 click
this.. to join the Virtual Vision 2020 group

[09:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Magic!
[09:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And yes, Machinima would be very
helpful in our effort

[09:39] Thynka Little: get Draxtor involved
[09:39] Thynka Little: i will contact him

[09:39] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): thanks any1

[09:40] Merlin Moonshadow: Do you think there’s a benefit in creating
a multipurpose plan that smaller communities could use yet that would
scale to a larger community?

[09:40] Sarvana Haalan: are the previous workshops archived?

[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That is true Gentle – it’s why i
think an overall plan will work here even though we have so many
subcommunities – RL does not involve each specific community but
provides the broad picture
[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Merlin -yes most definitely – that
would be a great goal for the plan
[09:40] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Sarvana – I put up a summary on the
Virtual Vision Website of the first workshops

[09:41] Oronoque Westland: ? – are the slides available?

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: Great!!!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I can post them at

[09:41] Oronoque Westland: oh, great…I would like to know more about
the workshops

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pam!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): ok, i think we have to wrap up

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: This has been super!

[09:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): thanks so very much for allowing me
to share this idea

[09:41] Gentle Heron: Thanks Pam, this is an excellent process for
community planning.

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: Pam rocks!!!!! woot, woot!!! 🙂

[09:42] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): I am here only because I have a
day off – my school district blocks SL. Times of presentations and
events can be an issue – thus streaming and taping can be useful

[09:42] Oronoque Westland: I am thinking I can introduce my students
to this process

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: I think everyone really wants to ask you more
and I bet they can IM you?

[09:42] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Bravo!!! Great job Pam.

[09:42] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Very Brave and Ambitious Pam!
Ty for Leading This Initiative!

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for sharing this with us Pam! Awesome!

[09:42] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): ☆☆☆ HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooow! ☆☆☆

[09:42] Sarvana Haalan: I am still travel back from Atlanta… taking
the scenic route via Charlotte, NC. LOL, LOL

[09:42] Tori Landau: Thanks Pam, a lot to think about °͜°

[09:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, definitely! i can talk about
planning and virtual worlds all day lol

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: I know we want to! lol

[09:43] Sarvana Haalan: And she knows what she is talking about…

[09:43] Buffy Beale: Cheering! this was so interesting

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much!

[09:43] Merlin Moonshadow: Thanks, Pam!

[09:43] Sarvana Haalan: Thanks Pam

[09:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks to all of you!

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[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, before we hit our Open Mic! I have links
for you all!
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[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Who has an Open Mic Announcement?

[09:45] Thynka Little: me 🙂
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sponsored by Cooperative Extension, will be September 10-16. Any
non-profit with content related to the Extension focus areas is
welcome to put up an exhibit on the fairgrounds. Please message me for
details. The fair is located at
[09:45] Thynka Little: Morrill (131,6,24)

[09:45] Gentle Heron: Virtual State Fair is more fun than a barrel of corn dogs!

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[09:46] Thynka Little: to figure out if your content relates go to

[09:46] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid):

[09:46] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Next Tuesday night SIGVE is having
an event for Connected Educators – Please stop by SIGVE or watch on

[09:47] Lotta Flux: Grid, Do you have the SLURL or LM?

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent! We WA folks know how to teach and party in SL!

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: lol, indeed so Z

[09:47] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): The destinations are:
Second Life ISTE SIGVE Headquarters at EduIsland 9 (41,93,22)
Virtual Pioneers at EduIsland 9 (106,77,22)
VSTE at VSTE Island (59,193,28)
SLEEC at SLEEC Island (31,192,22)
Games MOOC at Front Range in Second Life at Front Range (148,88,33)
Cognitive Disonance Guild at World of Warcraft Sisters of Elune Server

[09:47] Lotta Flux: thx!

[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Each of the ed sites will give a 9
minute tour the whole thing is bieng streamed via Google hangout
[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): It starts at SIGVE HQ

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: That is great Gridjumper!

[09:48] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): The method has been working very
well and one I would recommend to this group

[09:48] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Super!
[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Any other announcements?

[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): If the goal is to bring in new ppl
[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): for support etc

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: good plan, events are super for that!

[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): 9PM EST next tuesday
[09:49] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): August 21
[09:50] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): Yes perhaps SIGVE could partner
with this group
[09:50] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): we seem to have similar goals

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s talk about that!

[09:50] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Don’t forget to join the virtual
vision group if you want to keep up with the progress or volunteer!

[09:51] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Virtual Vision 2020 click
this.. to join the Virtual Vision 2020 group

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Great!
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Any other announcements?

[09:52] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): <– motions to adjourn

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, one more thing before we go.
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Not so fast Magic! lol

[09:53] Sarvana Haalan: we never adjourn here… we just pause… lol, lol

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I wanted to encourage everyone to set in their
Prefs to not let your avatar to sleep.
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Do you guys know how to do that?
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I take much better photos when everyone is awake!

[09:54] Dancers Yao: how?

[09:54] Thynka Little: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: And, it makes our speakers feel great if you are awake!

[09:54] Lotta Flux: lol

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: okay

[09:54] Sarvana Haalan: true

[09:54] Buffy Beale: lol Thynka

[09:54] Gentle Heron: Yes Zinnia, but more accurate photos when some
of us are asleep.

[09:54] Merlin Moonshadow: So pass out the caffeine, Zinnia. 😉

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Under Me >

[09:54] Sarvana Haalan: tea for me, please…. hehe

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Preferences

[09:55] Karaoke String: peanut butter and jelly marshmellows for me please

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: General >

[09:55] Karaoke String: i just found the recipe

[09:55] Gentle Heron: Me -> Preferences -> General -> Away Timeout
(set it for over an hour)

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: At the bottom, you see Away Timeout
[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, or never

[09:55] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): / Control P preferences..
General tab… in Viewer 3 there is an Away Timeout pulldown… more
complexicated in other browsers… … V1 variants.. Ctrl Alt D to get
Advanced Menu… then Advanced > Character > Character Tests > CHECK
Go Away/AFK When Idle

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys for helping!

[09:56] Sarvana Haalan: I have mine set on “Never”.

[09:56] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Uncheck***

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please set that, we never sleep in SL!

[09:56] Oronoque Westland: I never go to sleep, not even in RL

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Great meeting and thank you all for being part
of our community!

[09:56] Gentle Heron: oh Oro!

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:56] Buffy Beale: ohh Oro have a nap then

[09:56] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: This is My Life… I never sleep… I let
“Sally” do the sleeping… LOL, LOL

[09:57] Buffy Beale: lol Sar

[09:57] Gridjumper (tanya.smedley): TY very interesting presentaiton

[09:57] alebez: thank you!

[09:57] Merlin Moonshadow: Thanks, everyone. I have to run back to RL. 🙂

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: Excellent presentation!!

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: We have the Mentors Meeting at 10:05
[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: ANd, thank you you again Pam!

[09:57] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): yes, great meeting ty
everyone! Huggles ZINNIA! u da boss!

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: lol, thank you Magic!

[09:57] Sarvana Haalan: going for my tea now… brb

[09:58] Buffy Beale: bye all who aren’t staying after have a great week

[09:58] Glitteractica Cookie: bye alll=

[09:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes, thanks to everyone!

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Please take care!

[09:58] Gentle Heron waves to everyone who is leaving

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript of August 10 Nonprofit Commons Meeting – Behind the Scenes at IDRAC2012 with Gentle Heron of Virtual Ability, Inc.

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 10, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
9:55 “Behind the Scenes at IDRAC2012” with Gentle Heron and iSkye Silverweb Bond of Virtual Ability, Inc.
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements

– Unabridged Transcript –


[08:28] Zinnia Zauber: Good morning!

[08:28] Gentle Heron waves at all those brave pioneers who managed to
get in this morning.

[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: Good to see everyone!
[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: Folks are having trouble getting inworld.
[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: So we are happy you made it!

[08:29] bulaklak: Thanks, Zinnia. I got bumped out.

[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: yeah
[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: it happens to the best of us.

[08:29] bulaklak: Seeing the egg bodies again hehe

[08:30] Buffy Beale: must be my lucky day today

[08:30] Zinnia Zauber: I am trying out my new mesh dress I made.
[08:30] Zinnia Zauber: So, I might be a mess to some people.

[08:30] Sister Abeyante: A mess or a mesh to some people. hehe

[08:30] Bathsheba Vizenor (bathsheba.darkfold): Does Firestorm show Mesh Ok?

[08:31] Gentle Heron: Firestorm should.

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome to the Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
sponsored by TechSoup!

[08:32] Gentle Heron: iSkye still can’t log in, but it looks like we
hve an audience!

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: I am Zinnia Zauber and thrilled to have you here today!

[08:32] Oronoque Westland: iSkye was here for a mere second than offline again

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Let me share the agenda for today.
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: AGENDA

8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

9:55 “Behind the Scenes at IDRAC2012” with Gentle Heron and iSkye
Silverweb Bond of Virtual Ability, Inc.

9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements
[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Hopefully iSkye will make it in.
[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s start with Introductions!
[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Our transcripts are made public, just so you know.

[08:33] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation

[08:33] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Please type into the text chat your real life
name, organization, physical location, URL , and twitter handle.

[08:33] Sister Abeyante: Sister Patrice Colletti, SDS Milwaukee, WI
*** @SisterAbeyante ***
@TechTips4Usds *** as well as a
volunteer with Virtual Ability, Inc.

[08:33] Buffy Beale: heh heh HB

[08:34] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:34] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.
Blog about IDRAC
Pictures from IDRAC

[08:34] Bathsheba Vizenor (bathsheba.darkfold): Katie Vizenor,
Washington DC, PhD student Anthropology and Senior Researcher American
Foundation for the Blind PUblic Policy Office

[08:34] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:34] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City
University of New York (still not a good twitterer or is it not a

[08:34] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, TechSoup Global, SF, Ca, @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:34] Bathsheba Vizenor (bathsheba.darkfold): @kvizenor

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:34] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global, San Francisco, CA,, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup

[08:35] Adalace Jewell: Corine Van Hellemont, RoSa Library Brussels,
Belgium @adalace

[08:35] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, tech outreach in AZ,
Mexico and On the Road, @ozma

[08:35] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online Community and Social
Media Director, TechSoup Global SF, CA USA @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Great!
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Let me share some links too.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Remember, you are welcome to introduce yourself
throughout the meeting.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Please don’t be shy.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)

[08:36] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Magic Pathfinder
(any1.gynoid), Faculty at New Citizens Inc (NCI), Teaching hands-on
Artificial Intelligence and Pathfinding in Second Life – More Info: – FYI Pathfinding is EVERYWHERE in
SL! Now!

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[08:37] Sister Abeyante: @Zinnia- are all those links on a poster
someplace here at NPC? Those are great resources.

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I am working on a new notecard with them.

[08:37] Buffy Beale: nice one a1 🙂

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: They are listed on the board behind me.

[08:38] Sister Abeyante: Ah- ha… so much for rezzing well. hehe Sorry

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: I will pass out the notecard I have via the
group notices. Great idea Sister.

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: So, it sounds like some of our NPC Peeps are
struggling to get inworld.

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: And, we are happy you all are with us!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: You made it!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

TechSoup Announcements

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Okay TechSoup Announcements!

[08:40] bulaklak: Hello, folks!

[08:40] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak!

[08:40] bulaklak: So first up I want to call attention to a recent
article on the Stanford Social Innovation Review by our very own
Shettal Singh
[08:40] bulaklak: Oops, Sheetal
[08:41] bulaklak: She looks at the movement around hackathons and
other direct action, civic oriented problem solving methods and how
traditionally structured nonprofits might benefit from adopting some
of those models
[08:42] bulaklak: It’s an interesting read, and there is a great
conversation happening in the comments section. Please feel free to
add to it if you have something to say about the topic.
[08:42] bulaklak:
[08:43] bulaklak: And speaking of nonprofits working with these types
of movements, TechSoup hosted the MozillaIgnite Idea Jam last night
and it was a pretty fantastic event
[08:43] bulaklak: They teamed up with ZeroDivide to ask “What if the
internet had no limits?”
[08:43] bulaklak: You can see some of the action on the hashtag #usignite
[08:44] bulaklak: And please check out the blog on TechSoup for some
updates later today from our blogger Susan Chavez
[08:44] bulaklak:

[08:44] Glitteractica Cookie: there will be more real-time updates on
our team wiki

[08:44] bulaklak: There were five teams separated along different
verticals such as health and green tech.
[08:45] bulaklak: And some of the solutions they came up with were
quite interesting.
[08:45] bulaklak: Susan Chavez will link the wiki notes from the blog
entry I posted upthread and a full recap with video from Alebez will
come by some time next week so stay tuned!
[08:46] bulaklak: Lastly, we have two excellent events next week
[08:46] bulaklak: On Wednesday, August 15 we are producing the next
episode of NPLIVE around the topic of social media policy and
workiplace online privacy
[08:46] bulaklak: That is at 11am PT and you can register for that here
[08:47] bulaklak:

[08:47] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): <– dreads this part of the
meeting… because I can never make these times… Suggestion: Could
you announce newly posted content of the webinars we just missed>>>

[08:47] bulaklak: And then on Thursday, August 16 we have a webinar
with our partner Acteva that will teach you how to manage events with
ease — everything from registration lists to logistics
[08:48] bulaklak: Great point, Magic. All of these events are recapped
and archived.

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: That is a great suggestion and we
archive all of our webinars

[08:48] bulaklak: And going forward I will make sure to post the
archive links the following week.
[08:48] bulaklak: Thanks for the suggestion!

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: I have an update
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: I’m hiring
[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: We (our team) are looking for another team member)

[08:49] Buffy Beale: do they have to live in San Francisco?

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: This is an online/offline/on-the-ground
events producer

[08:49] Sarvana Haalan: Hello, Sally S Cherry, Baltimore, Md is back
in town . 🙂

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: yes, it’s a local position to SF, due to
the local in-house events part

[08:49] Buffy Beale: ok thanks

[08:49] Coughran Mayo: how retro!

[08:49] bulaklak: Let me just post the link to the events webinar real
quick and add that if you would like this event to be live
transcribed, please request that 72 hours in advance. More info at the

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: but if you knw anyone in the SF bay
area, plz tell them to go to and look for the
events producer job

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Great!
[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: More Techsoup news?

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: coughran… there are online and
in-house events, so NOT retro

[08:50] alebez: yes me!

[08:50] Glitteractica Cookie: the person would be responsible for
doing mixed reality, for example
[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: we need someone with ability to run
things like speakers and ability to stream, but also is comfortable
producing and hosting webinars

[08:51] Coughran Mayo offfers Glitter a sense of humor

[08:51] Eme Capalini laughs

[08:51] Glitteractica Cookie: Glitter accepts and counters with a HUGE WINK

[08:51] BELOVEDROX: NSIP has a webinar on n Accessible Transportation
on 8.15.2012

[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: (ahem)

[08:52] bulaklak: lolz

[08:52] Glitteractica Cookie: Alebez, go for it

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Please

[08:52] alebez: thanks
[08:53] alebez: i’d just like to remind everyone here at the NPC to
share stories of impact into the community. my colleague trichetriche
and team are working hard at collecting amazing stories from all
around the world to put up on TechSoup Global Local Impact Map. We
would truly love to represent all the wonderful, innovative work done
here and in your orgs. Share your story with

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you alebez!

[08:54] alebez: of course
[08:54] alebez: we’d love for more

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: That is a perfect lead into our next part of the meeting!

Mentor Central

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: Mentor Central!
[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: So, we have a few things to share today!
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: As ale mentioned, stories….
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: We have been creating stories here at NPC.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Nonprofit Commons – “Wishes Granted: Stories of
Positive Impact” These huge books tell real life fairy tales.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: The stories are about how nonprofit
organizations have had an encouraging and constructive influence on
the lives of others. Inside the “fairy tale” books are insightful
notecards, landmarks, and gifts from the unique nonprofits.
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Discover there is an opportunity, as
individuals and as a community, to impact the lives of people who join
us in the virtual world and those we support in the physical world
every day, many of whom do not even log in to Second Life.
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you had a book created to be part
of Wishes Granted?

[08:56] Dancers Yao: Elder Voices has appreciated sharing this story
of Kasuku Magic..thanks to Zinnia

[08:57] Buffy Beale: Bridges for Woman have

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: You are more than welcome, Dancers!
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: This is an ongoing project to share our stories.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: They could be for the local impact map

[08:58] Eme Capalini: Is this what you had at the SL Birthday celebration?

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Please think about sharing them there.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, Eme!
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: And, that is the perfect lead into the next bit!

[08:58] Eme Capalini: Oh wonderful

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Eme!

[08:59] Eme Capalini: I saw the VAI one, any chance we can update it?

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: We are going to celebrate the Nonprofit Commons Birthday!

[08:59] Sarvana Haalan: I talked about the exitence of “Stories of
Positive Impact” at a recent conference

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: We have picked Sept 21 as a day to celebrate!

[08:59] Sarvana Haalan: *existence

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: And, we want to create more books for the event!
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: So, please contact me directly about having a
book made for your org or group.

[09:00] Sarvana Haalan: awesome way to share the stories

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: I bet you have a wonderful fairy tale to tell.
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Sar!

[09:00] Sarvana Haalan: 🙂

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Also, if you want to be on the team for the
birthday celebration please contact the Mentors.
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: Anyone want to add to this?

[09:01] Sarvana Haalan: Is this news time? 🙂

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: (we need teams of volunteers from all timezones)
[09:01] Sarvana Haalan: I will volunteer to help

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: no, not open mic
[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Buffy is taking names!

[09:02] Buffy Beale: yes please let me know if you’d like to be part
of this exciting team

[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, more on this later and please Stories of
Positive Impact!
[09:02] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you everyone for your support!

[09:03] Buffy Beale: thanks Sar you’re on the list 🙂

[09:03] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Okay

[09:03] Sarvana Haalan: missed u guys… RL has been busy

“Behind the Scenes at IDRAC2012” with Gentle Heron and iSkye Silverweb Bond of Virtual Ability, Inc
[09:03] Zinnia Zauber: Gentle, please join me up front.
[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:04] Gentle Heron: Hi everybody.
[09:04] Gentle Heron: I had planned to present today with my colleague
iSkye Silverweb.
[09:04] Gentle Heron: She’s still having trouble signing in, so I’ll
do my best to move ahead through our presentation. Please forgive me
if this isn’t as smooth as we had planned it to be.
[09:04] Gentle Heron: Can everyone see the slides, or do we need to
ask Zinnia to move the books?

[09:04] Buffy Beale: yay Gentle and aww too bad about iSky

[09:04] Zinnia Zauber: can you see?

[09:04] Sarvana Haalan: Woot, woot for Gentle!!

[09:04] Namaara MacMoragh: (applause) Yay Gentle!!

[09:04] Eme Capalini: She’s trying

[09:04] Buffy Beale: I can see ok yes

[09:05] Gentle Heron: Thank you all…. can everyone see the slides?
[09:05] Gentle Heron: Today we’re going to take you behind the scenes
of our recent IDRAC2012 Conference, that we held last weekend, August
3 and 4.
[09:05] Gentle Heron: We’ve had several other conferences at Virtual
Ability, so putting on a conference was not new to us, but last year
was the first year for something bigger.
[09:05] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability’s corporate mission is to “to
enable people with a wide range of disabilities by providing a
supporting environment for them to enter and thrive in online virtual
[09:06] Gentle Heron: Within that mission, we provide lots of
information and advocacy for our community members, as well as doing
outreach on the importance of disability issues to the general
population in virtual worlds.
[09:06] Gentle Heron: For several years, we put on an annual ADA Day
celebration of the signing of the Americans with Disabilities Act,
which is landmark legislation in the history of accessibility and
disability rights. This yearly event was our large production as a
[09:07] Gentle Heron: But after a few years of celebrating ADA Day, we
finally realized that in SL we live in an international environment,
and we decided to broaden our perspective. Last year was our first
International Disability Rights Affirmation Conference, IDRAC2011.
[09:07] Gentle Heron: In 2011, we had panelists from all over the
world, and speakers from countries in Europe and Asia. It was an
international effort among the presenters, but the behind the scenes
work was mainly Gentle and iSkye. Boy did we learn!

[09:07] old memories (oldmemories): hi
[09:07] old memories (oldmemories): iam sam from egypt

[09:07] Gentle Heron: ***
[09:07] Gentle Heron: We found out that scheduling presenters back to
back was NOT a good idea. We really need time between, for takedown
and setup, and generally making sure that each presenter has time to
get ready.

[09:07] Zinnia Zauber: Old memories, could you please sit with us not
in the front.

[09:08] Gentle Heron: (hello Sam from Egypt. Please take a seat)

[09:08] old memories (oldmemories): ok iam sorry

[09:08] Gentle Heron: And best of all, we realized that if we
delegated tasks, things actually went better than if we tried to do
all the work ourselves. Since we’re here to talk about how this year’s
conference came about, let’s begin at the beginning, which was
choosing a date.

[09:08] old memories (oldmemories): but were i can sit

[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: You are welcome to join us, just that Gentle is

[09:08] Gentle Heron: When it was an ADA Day Celebration, it was easy!
The ADA was signed on July 26, 1990.

[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[09:08] Gentle Heron: So we put the ADA Day Celebration on the weekend
nearest to July 26.

[09:09] old memories (oldmemories): ok

[09:09] Gentle Heron: Why did we choose a weekend? It worked best both
for our presenters and our audiences, who we drew from folks already
in Second Life.
[09:09] Gentle Heron: But now, detaching the event from that specific
date gave us a little freedom, but only a little.
[09:09] Gentle Heron: Now we had to determine dates that did not
conflict with other major SL events, or with our VAI officers’
combined personal schedules.
[09:09] Gentle Heron: What’s more, as we opened up our thinking to
having presenters from outside Second Life, we realized that many
would only be available on a weekday.
[09:09] Gentle Heron: That meant we were scheduling now for Friday and
Saturday. We also realized we would need some time before the
conference to provide orientation for these presenters, as it would be
their first time in Second Life, let alone giving a presentation.
[09:10] Gentle Heron: Inworld presentations are done differently to
those in RL, as I’m sure many of you know.
[09:10] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:10] Gentle Heron: I think I was the one who figured we ought to
have a theme.

[09:10] old memories (oldmemories): iam just escaped from my life my
country is not in stability case these days

[09:10] Gentle Heron: Themes need to be narrow enough to give
direction as to which presenters to invite, yet also broad enough to
allow us to invite the presenters we are interested in hearing from.
[09:10] Gentle Heron: The first year of the new expanded conference,
our theme, more or less, was about the conference title: International
Disability Rights. That one was easy and obvious. But what to do for
our second year?
[09:10] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:11] Gentle Heron: I had recently attended the annual conference of
the Society for Disability Studies and had been impressed by a couple
of presenters who talked about how people with disabilities integrated
into their local communities.
[09:11] Gentle Heron: I knew that was an interest area of our inworld
community members.
[09:11] Gentle Heron: So I suggested that our theme for this year be:
A Community of Communities, recognizing that we all are members of
numerous interlocking communities. That worked out well, as we began
to invite presenters.
[09:11] Second Life: Items successfully shared.
[09:11] Gentle Heron: We knew that if we wanted to expand our audience
to not only be wider within Second Life, but potentially also bring in
audience members from outside, we needed to also broaden our list of
[09:11] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:12] Gentle Heron: We knew it was unlikely that all the presenters
we invited would accept our invitation, so we invited more than we
[09:12] Gentle Heron: I don’t know what we would do if they all
accepted – I guess we would have to expand the conference!

[09:12] Zinnia Zauber: 🙂

[09:12] Gentle Heron: Inviting and scheduling involves a lot of record
keeping. We used Google Documents to create a spreadsheet and kept
track of the presenters we invited, who accepted, who said no (and
those who said, “No, but please invite me next year”).
[09:12] Gentle Heron: ***
[09:12] Gentle Heron: We included entries for keeping track of the
presenters who needed orientation and training in basic inworld
presentation skills and the use of presentation materials.
[09:13] Gentle Heron: We’re truly pleased to say that nearly half of
the presenters at IDRAC 2012 were newcomers to Second Life, and we’re
gratified that they had a very positive experience, despite some
[09:13] Gentle Heron: We created another spreadsheet to include
specific information about the presenters – blurbs, bios, and so

[09:13] Namaara MacMoragh: wow! That’s great!

[09:13] Gentle Heron: These were used on VAI’s website, blog, and on
notecards for our introducers.
[09:13] Gentle Heron: Gentle helped the newcomer presenters set up
their Second Life accounts, and as soon as she knew their names, she
added them to our spreadsheet in Google Documents.
[09:13] Gentle Heron: We both made sure to friend them, and one or
both of us were on hand to welcome them and start training them.
[09:13] Gentle Heron: I really believe, as many mentors do, that the
personal approach is the best. One-on-one or even two-on one contact
is so crucial to a good first experience in SL.
[09:14] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:14] Gentle Heron: I had notecards inworld to keep track of the
progress of each new presenter I was working with, and I kept the
Google spreadsheet updated with each one’s progress.
[09:14] Gentle Heron: We wanted to balance presenters with a specific
disability or Second Life focus with those who had a broader
perspective on community involvement for people with disabilities.
[09:14] Gentle Heron: We also wanted to involve academic researchers
as well as people with practical experiences of being disabled.
[09:15] Gentle Heron: And we wanted a variety of formats for the
presentations. Having all “talking heads” would have been too boring!
[09:15] Gentle Heron: Accessibility is important to our community as well.
[09:15] Gentle Heron: That’s why we always have transcriptionists.
[09:15] Gentle Heron: Two kinds of transcriptionists, actually: the
more common V2T, and the easier T2V.
[09:15] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:15] Gentle Heron: V2T or voice-to-text allows presenters to use
Voice. Some of our presenters who voice can put out their own text
simultaneously (using SpeakEasy or a similar tool) and the best ones
can also advance their own slides. But many speakers prefer to just …
[09:16] Gentle Heron: However, some presenters use only text.
[09:16] Gentle Heron: For them, T2V text-to-voice transcriptionists
read the text aloud so that our dyslexic, visually impaired, or blind
members can access it.
[09:16] Gentle Heron: We can always use transcriptionists, especially
those who do V2T. Please refer them to us! We pay for their work at
our presentations.
[09:16] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:17] Gentle Heron: Greeters are also important for accessibility,
as well as for establishing a sense of joining the community of the
[09:17] Gentle Heron: They welcome people by name, offer assistance
with voice or vision issues, explain the day’s schedule, and help
solve problems that may come up during the presentation. More on that
[09:17] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:17] Gentle Heron: Walking the Talk: Including the Virtual Ability
community in this conference was really a no-brainer for us.
[09:17] Gentle Heron: After all, the theme was about community, and it
was a team effort. No one person had to carry the full load. We
learned first-hand the benefits of delegating, not the least of which
was getting enough sleep at night! Here’s a partial list:
[09:17] Gentle Heron: · Gentle – identified and initially contacted
presenters, trained presenters on voice, introduced, opened and closed
conference, scheduled transcriptionists
[09:18] Gentle Heron: · iSkye – scheduled, trained and prepared
presenters, received and converted presentation materials, held hands
[09:18] Gentle Heron: · Eme Capalini – sim management, created
posters, created at least three different ‘sets’ for the stage for
different presenters, worked with inworld media
[09:18] Gentle Heron: · Pecos Kidd- website, social media
[09:18] Gentle Heron: · Ladyslipper Constantine – organised the Greeters group
[09:18] Gentle Heron: · Sister Abeyante – prepared PowerPoint for Tom
[09:19] Gentle Heron: · Introducers – VAI community members who
volunteered to introduce presenters:
o Jesse Lefevre
o Roxie Marten
o Treasure Ballinger
o Pecos Kidd
o Vulcan Viper
o Carla Broek (she was also a presenter)
[09:19] Gentle Heron: Reaching out to a broader community means
contacting and inviting partner groups across Second Life and
encouraging their members to celebrate disability rights with us.
[09:19] Gentle Heron: Our event was open to everyone, because everyone
benefits when we all have equal access to community.
[09:19] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:19] Gentle Heron: Involving the audience in a presentation is
community development. We tend to have very interactive audiences. We
encourage that!
[09:20] Gentle Heron: However we recognize that not all our presenters
can deal with presenting plus watching the local chat fly by.
[09:20] Gentle Heron: So we often ask our audiences to hold comments
and questions to the end. It’s not ideal, but it respects the
presenters’ needs.
[09:20] Gentle Heron: Inviting new members into the community is
important to us as well.
[09:20] Gentle Heron: We hope our presenters will become Virtual
Ability members, if they were not already.
[09:20] Gentle Heron: We know there is a steep learning curve entering SL.
[09:20] Gentle Heron: We try to make that less onerous for our new
presenters by coaching them through the entire sign in process,
creating a professional looking avatar, and learning minimal skills.
[09:21] Gentle Heron: Presenters don’t need to learn how to buy things
or organize inventory.
[09:21] Gentle Heron: They need to know how to:
· “sit” to look as if they are standing at the podium or sitting on the bench
· ensure their Voice is working
· look at the slide projector while their avatar is facing the audience
· advance slides on the projector
[09:21] Gentle Heron: That’s about it! iSkye trains them well.
[09:21] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:21] Gentle Heron: We shared news and information about the
conference in a variety of ways.
[09:21] Gentle Heron: Some of these are:
· distributing group notices
· listing on the SL Event Calendar
· sharing information with partner groups in Second Life
· using social media to spread the word about the event in the metaverse
[09:22] Gentle Heron: iSkye used Facebook to announce the conference,
and people like Zinnia picked up on it and shared it (THANK you for
that, every one of you!).
[09:22] Gentle Heron: We sent updates on Twitter before and during the
conference, and we uploaded snapshots to our Flickr photostream – it’s
still there, at
[09:22] Gentle Heron: We had displays set up nearby with interesting
history tidbits about disability rights.
[09:22] Gentle Heron: We didn’t stop there. We encouraged people to
leave comments and share their impressions of different topics during
and after conference.
[09:22] Gentle Heron: If you attended the conference, it’s not too
late to drop us a note at .
[09:22] Gentle Heron: We want to make next year’s conference even
better, and you can help!
[09:23] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:23] Gentle Heron: During the sessions, issues do come up, of
course, that require special handling.

For instance, when Philip Linden rezzed in, he had connection issues
and couldn’t see or speak. He had to relog several times (causing much
mirth in the audience, I’m sure) in order to get SL Voice to work.
[09:23] Gentle Heron: Behind the scenes, we were also working to get
him connected through Skype to the Metaverse TV folks, so that they
could record his sound. Always a challenge when connecting two
different systems, but we managed it in time.
[09:23] Gentle Heron: During our last research presentation, right at
the end when the speaker was beginning to answer questions, incredible
lag hit the entire sim.
[09:23] Gentle Heron: Several people including the transcriptionists
crashed hard. Others of us could not move or type. What did we do?
[09:24] Gentle Heron: We moved to a nearby island!
[09:24] Gentle Heron: Our greeters and other staff volunteers assisted
the presenter and everyone in the audience to move over, with LMs and
SLURLs for those who could TP and walking across with those who could
not TP.
[09:24] Gentle Heron: The presenter finished up at the other venue,
answering remaining questions almost as if nothing had happened.
[09:24] Buffy Beale: nice going!
[09:24] Gentle Heron: Meanwhile, our sim manager rebooted the
conference sim, where we reconvened for the final comedy show. (Maybe
the lag burst was a prelude for comedy?)

[09:24] Sister Abeyante: (We called it a “field trip”)

[09:24] Gentle Heron: ***
[09:24] Gentle Heron: One thing I should mention is Linden Lab support
for the event.

We had asked for and been assigned a “contact Linden.”
[09:25] Gentle Heron: When we got one of those pesky “Your sim is
scheduled for roll back” messages, we simply contacted “our” Linden
and she made that go away.
[09:25] Gentle Heron: With her support internally, our venue was
removed from the list of sims to be rolled on that day.
[09:25] Gentle Heron: ***
[09:25] Gentle Heron: After the conference, we took a day to recuperate.
[09:25] Gentle Heron: Then we started on follow-up tasks:
· feedback notecards from greeters, introducers, other volunteers
· sending conference certificates to presenters
[09:25] Gentle Heron: We also held a debriefing session to discuss the
lessons we’d learned:
· Half hour between was IMPORTANT
[09:26] Gentle Heron: · How to improve on preparing:
o Greeters
o Introducers
o Panelists
o presenters
· The importance of involving community
o Delegating tasks!
o Set a deadline for submitting presentation materials
o Get social media links of presenters
o Should presenters’ slides to be uploaded to SlideShare? Check with
presenters, get permission or links to their sharing sites
[09:26] Gentle Heron: Records of the event were created in several ways:
· Virtual Ability’s Flickr Photostream – iSkye took snapshots of each
presentation, and even a few before the event
[09:26] Gentle Heron: · Metaverse TV recordings of two presentations –
When Metaverse TV learned that we had invited Philip Rosedale, creator
of Second Life, and Tom Boellstorff, researcher, author and
anthropologist, to present at IDRAC, they asked to film these two
presentations. It was a privilege to have them there!
[09:26] Gentle Heron: · Slidesets and transcripts of the presentations
– iSkye handled the receipt and conversion of the images and
PowerPoint presentation images into SL-ready format and loaded them
into inworld projectors, then taught the presenters how to advance
their slides during their talks; transcripts of the talks were saved
as transcriptionists created them
[09:27] Gentle Heron: · Virtual Ability’s blog – details of the
conference and speakers were given, and visitors encouraged to leave
comments with their impressions
[09:27] Gentle Heron: ****
[09:27] Gentle Heron: Zinnia asked us to end today with some
information about how we measure the success of our conference.
[09:27] Gentle Heron: Of course, it’s easy to say something generic
like “if it inspired people, then the conference has been successful.”
That’s true of course, but a little difficult to measure.
[09:27] Gentle Heron: So we look at things like attendance numbers,
comments from the audience, and comments from the presenters…

[09:27] Zinnia Zauber: Check out the interview with Gentle and

[09:28] Gentle Heron: (that was a LOT of fun!)
[09:28] Gentle Heron: But we also ask people in the audience how they
came to hear about the sessions.
[09:28] Gentle Heron: It is important to us when we find out that
someone read about it in a group notice that we didn’t post, or got a
twitter message that we didn’t send.
[09:28] Gentle Heron: We know that as these messages spread outside
our own immediate contacts, we’ve raised awareness in our broader
audience as we impact other communities.
[09:28] Gentle Heron: ***
[09:28] Gentle Heron: I want to conclude by telling a story from one
of our early presentations on Friday.
[09:28] Gentle Heron: Nola Nash is from the Atlantis Community, an
Independent Living Center in Colorado.
[09:28] Gentle Heron: When I recruited her to present the history of
this community of support for people with disabilities in the physical
world, she was totally unfamiliar with the concept of virtual worlds.
[09:29] Gentle Heron: Her boss asked “Do you mean you are going to
present to The Sims?”
[09:29] Gentle Heron: By the time iSkye and I were done working with
Nola, Virtual Ability’s IDRAC conference had a moving presentation
about what is possible in an urban community where people with severe
disabilities are integrated;
[09:29] Gentle Heron: Nola and her boss had enough of a vision of the
potential benefits and uses of virtual worlds for their clients;
[09:29] Gentle Heron: And the NonProfit Commons will most likely have
a future tenant when the Atlantis Community enters Second Life.

[09:30] Sarvana Haalan: awesome

[09:30] Gentle Heron: I call that a win-win-win for the IDRAC
conference and all our communities.

[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[09:30] Gentle Heron: Thank you. Any questions?

[09:30] Oronoque Westland: I was able to attend for a few hours. Aside
from it being an EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT conference on the topic, it was
a FANTASTIC model on how to run a conference in SL. I would suggest
that this presentation and slides be made available as a “how-to
guide” for others who are planning in-world conferences.
[09:30] Gentle Heron: (Sorry iSkye is still trying to enter SL)
[09:30] Buffy Beale: excellent as always Gentle, thanks!
[09:30] Gentle Heron: (she has other slides, but I couldn’t get to
them, I’m so sorry!)

[09:30] Bathsheba Vizenor (bathsheba.darkfold): Awesome!

[09:30] Zinnia Zauber: We sure are thankful for iSkye and the whole VAI team!

[09:30] Sarvana Haalan: Kudos to Gentle!!!

[09:30] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Did your core team have
regular meetings? or even every day meetings? how did you organize and

[09:30] Gentle Heron: Teamwork, it’s all teamwork.

[09:31] Sarvana Haalan: and her team

[09:31] Dancers Yao: just wanted to add how great it was..excellent
work as always Gentle

[09:31] Ozma Malibu: Thanks so much for this wrap-up.

[09:31] Namaara MacMoragh: great presentation…. great job on the conference

[09:31] Gentle Heron: iSkye and I met daily. The task leaders we met
with as needed.
[09:31] Gentle Heron: iSkye and I used Google docs a LOT to coordinate
[09:31] Gentle Heron: spreadsheets and docs

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent!

[09:32] Oronoque Westland: I would suggest that this presentation and
slides be made available as a “how-to guide” for others who are
planning in-world conferences.

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: Your hard, I mean smart, work showed.

[09:32] Ozma Malibu: You show how important good organization is. You
must have spent all day on this for many days.

[09:32] Gentle Heron: Yes Zinnia, you have to work both hard and smart.

[09:32] Zinnia Zauber: That is a great idea Oronoque!

[09:32] Gentle Heron: Ozma, actually, I got more sleep the 2 days
prior to the conference than I usually do! People cut me slack on my
‘regular’ duties, so I went to bed early.
[09:33] Gentle Heron: Thanks Oro. I’ll see if I can get the rest of
the slideset.
[09:33] Gentle Heron: Thanks everyone.

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Gentle!

[09:33] Buffy Beale: QUESTION: How hard was it to get Philip to present Gentle?

[09:33] Zinnia Zauber: This was super

[09:33] Ozma Malibu: Love the idea of only taking one day off after
the conference, and then scheduling meetings on the day after to make
sure that everything does happen. It’s so easy to fall into exhaustion
after something big and forget the final details now that the audience
is gone.

[09:33] Oronoque Westland: Truly an EXCELLENT conference.

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: That is a good question to end on.

[09:34] Zotarah Shepherd: Thank you Gentle It was a great conference.

[09:34] Ozma Malibu: Yes, the conference was great.

[09:34] Gentle Heron: Right Ozma, we had a checklist of things to do
AFTER the conference.

[09:34] Gentle Heron: and we knew everyone deserved a break

[09:34] Buffy Beale: the Conference was great and lot’s of good info

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: I learned a lot and thrilled to have Philip
talk about awesomeness!

[09:35] Gentle Heron: It really was fun to chat with Philip.

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: Gentle, did you see Buffy wanted to know how
you landed him.

[09:35] Buffy Beale: heheh nice way to put it Z 🙂

[09:35] Gentle Heron: That was easy, Buffy. I asked if he would be
willing to participate.

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: hehe
[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: That is great! He is so cool!

[09:35] Buffy Beale: That’s great he did Gentle nice going, and to get Tom too

[09:36] Sarvana Haalan: you never know unless you ask… Nice going Buffy

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: yes! We must have Tom speak with his team soon!
[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, thank you Gentle! This was super!

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Open Mic / Announcements

[09:36] Magic Pathfinder (any1.gynoid): Congratulations on a very
successful conference! Ty for sharing lessons learned too! Great job!

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Who has one?
[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Gentle – you do.

[09:37] Gentle Heron: actually I do, since amazingly we have an event
this weekend too
[09:37] Gentle Heron: Continuing Virtual Ability’s “Waiting for the
World to Change” year-long series of presentations, tomorrow SATURDAY
morning, August 11:

[09:37] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[09:37] Gentle Heron: Disability in Europe 2012: Is There One European
(reprise of her IDRAC2012 presentation of August 4)
PRESENTER: Carla Broek
SAT Aug 11, 9:30am PDT/SLT

[09:37] Bathsheba Vizenor (bathsheba.darkfold): Thanks, again! I have
to run. Great Talk!

[09:37] Gentle Heron: and
Ratification Status Update of the UN Convention on the Rights of
Persons with Disabilities in the United States
PRESENTER: Kara Spengler
SAT Aug 11, 11am PDT/SLT
[09:37] Gentle Heron: Both held in the Sojourner Auditorium, Virtual
Ability Island

[09:37] Sarvana Haalan: LM?

[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: Anyone else want a landmark to the auditorium?

[09:38] Oronoque Westland: Virtual Ability (54,170,23)

[09:38] Sarvana Haalan: Thanks!!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: Thanks for the SLURL Oro.

[09:39] Oronoque Westland: your welcome

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Great!
[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Other Annoucements?

[09:39] Gentle Heron has a busy events team!

[09:39] Sarvana Haalan: I have one

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: I am sending out that notecard for everyone –
please look for the notice.

[09:40] Gentle Heron sees Zinnia’s notecard

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Go for it Sar!

[09:40] Sarvana Haalan: ok… I just attended CDC’s National Conference on
Health Communication, Marketing, and Media in
Atlanta. (smiles) I am still in Atlanta… time
to relax a bit. In my abstract presentation, I
shared information about capacity building
through social media and virtual worlds for
“Sexual Health in a Digital Age”. Many attendees
(nonprofits) did not know of TechSoup and its
various services. The ones that knew about
TechSoup were not aware of the NPSL community
and the benefits of being part of the community.
A link ( was
provided with an invitation to visit and join our virtual community.
[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: Much interest was expressed for virtual world

[09:42] Glitteractica Cookie: Sarava, Bulaklak and Alebez are looking
into making it easier for our ambassadors like you to help us share
the work of techsoup and our programs and services

[09:43] Buffy Beale: good idea Glitter

[09:43] Sarvana Haalan: I am compiling a Follow-up resource list per
session attendees request. I will be adding links to TechSoup, and
other sites of topics expressed
[09:44] Sarvana Haalan: great… I always ask if the audience know of
TechSoup… with a note that Nonprofits should be aware of TS

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Great, looks like we have more connections to make!

[09:44] bulaklak: This makes me think that part of the ambassador
program needs to be a way our community can keep us in the loop about
conferences they are attending.

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

[09:45] Sarvana Haalan: great idea

[09:45] bulaklak: I will put it in our “idea bank” and maybe we can
brainstorm a system some time in the future

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Any other announcements?

[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: can we email links to conference info to Bulaklak?
[09:46] Sarvana Haalan: if so, email please?

[09:47] bulaklak: is the best way to get it to us

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: Thanks

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Super!

[09:47] Glitteractica Cookie:
[09:47] Glitteractica Cookie: (not sure if works too. it proly does)

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: lots of ways to connect!

[09:48] Sarvana Haalan: please send me any info on your “ambassdor”

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Did you guys get my notecard through the group notices?

[09:48] Gentle Heron: yes Zinnia

[09:49] Sarvana Haalan: I need it again… lost it when I crashed

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you! Remember Group is an open group.

[09:49] Ozma Malibu: mine disappeared as well

[09:49] Gentle Heron: It will stay in group notices for a couple of
seeks, Sarvana

[09:49] Gentle Heron: you can pick it up again any time

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: You can check the past notices there.

[09:49] Ozma Malibu: oh of course Gentle

[09:49] Sarvana Haalan: great

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Any other open mic items?

[09:50] Gentle Heron: *any time in the next couple of weeks, before SL
deletes it

[09:50] Sarvana Haalan: will be part of my Netwrk update today… I
have been unconnected for a while

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, then I am sharing those links again!
[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:
[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: This has been a wonderful meeting! Thank you
Gentle and iSkye for all the work on this talk today!

[09:51] Buffy Beale: cheering!

[09:52] Gentle Heron feels bad iSkye isn’t here.

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for attending and please join the
Mentors for help and brainstorming at 10.

[09:52] Eme Capalini: me too….so sorry iSkye couldn’t get in

[09:52] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks all

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Please share with here we missed her.

[09:52] Buffy Beale: yes sure did!

[09:52] Gentle Heron: will do, Zinnia and Buffy

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: thank you!

[09:53] Gentle Heron: She sounds awful frustrated at the moment.

[09:53] Sarvana Haalan: Great job!

[09:53] Buffy Beale: thanks everyone and have a beautiful week

[09:53] alebez: thank you everyone! have a good one.

[09:53] Buffy Beale: see you at 10 🙂

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Looking forward to seeing you all next week!
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Please take care!

[09:57] Dancers Yao: have a good week end….if you have a chance
please look at Kasuku Magic’s story…she loved being here, and was a
wonderful doctor. bye thx

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Dancers for sharing
[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: we miss her

[09:59] Dancers Yao: thx,.I know people didn’t really have a chance to
know her ….but she was a volunteer physician who saved many lives…

[09:59] Zinnia Zauber: yes, wonderful.

[10:00] Dancers Yao: I would also like to thank Gentle for her
personal support to us…she has been very kind…

[10:00] Buffy Beale: back

[10:00] Gentle Heron: (((Dancers)))

[10:00] Dancers Yao: bye for now

[10:00] Zinnia Zauber: take care!

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript for July 27 Nonprofit Commons Meeting – Educational Machinima with Pooky Amsterdam of PookyMedia

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
July 27, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
9:55 Educational Machinima with Pooky Amsterdam of PookyMedia
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements

– Unabridged Transcript –


[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome everyone to the Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:31] Pooky Amsterdam: Woohoo Ahoy Russell! Ahoy Buffy DrFran et al & hugs for Gentle!

[08:31] bulaklak: Days like this I miss caffeine!

[08:31] Buffy Beale: me too

[08:31] alebez: hey Zinnia.

[08:31] Buffy Beale: hugs Gentle too 🙂

[08:31] Adalace Jewell: hi everyone

[08:32] Jen (jenelle.levenque): It’s 1130 here
[08:32] Jen (jenelle.levenque): almost lunch time

[08:32] Buffy Beale: hi Adalace 🙂

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: We like to start out with introductions that
include your name, real name, org, and website, twitter handle and so

[08:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): hello Adalace

[08:32] Adalace Jewell: 17:32 here 😉

[08:32] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:32] bulaklak: Yes, I try to not say “good morning” because I know
it’s not morning for everyone!

[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Our transcripts are made public.
[08:32] Zinnia Zauber: Please introduce yourself!

[08:32] Buffy Beale: oops a wee bit tooo soon sorry Z

[08:32] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American
Veterans Association, Akron, OH,,!/TAVAUS

[08:32] bulaklak: It’s great how this convergence of different
timezones keeps me on my toes.

[08:33] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21),
Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:33] Ozma Malibu: Sandra Andrews, Floaters Org, technology outreach
in Arizona, Mexico and On the Road. @ozma

[08:33] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc.
Please check website this weekend for schedule announcement for

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. @renneemiko

[08:33] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko | Counseling,
Coaching, & Tutoring in Personal Finances via Telepresence (Private
Practice) | Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA | | @jerrybuchko

[08:33] Chad Mikado: Chad Gobert; National Service Inclusion Project
(NSIP), UMass Boston;

[08:33] alebez: ale bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup,
SF, CA @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:33] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager of Online Community
and Social Media at TechSoup Global. San Francisco, CA, USA. @TechSoup @MichaelDeLongSF

[08:33] BELOVEDROX: Roxy Rocker NSIP

[08:33] Adalace Jewell: Corine Van Hellemont, RoSa Library Brussels –
Belgium @adalace

[08:33] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA
Health Care and Human Rights

[08:33] Russell Boyd (rosco.teardrop): Russell Boyd, Resident Director
PookyMedia, Owner Wee Bit Studios

[08:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Pooky Amsterdam one name fits all – CEO @pookymedia

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: If you ever come in a little late to our
meetings, please still introduce yourself.
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: We want to get to know you!

[08:35] Gentle Heron: hint to Coughran!

[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[08:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): 🙂

[08:35] DrFran Babcock: hehe

[08:35] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC, St. Louis MO.
@Coughran, @Innovaision
[08:35] Coughran Mayo: like that was so hard!

[08:35] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Teacher’s taking attendance

[08:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): 😉

[08:36] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: good job C!

[08:36] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Give him detention for being late

[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: Let me share with you guys the Agenda for today.
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: 8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM Mentors Central

8:55 Educational Machinima with Pooky Amsterdam
of PookyMedia
[08:36] Zinnia Zauber: 9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements
[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: We discovered that it might be time for me to
get some new glasses as I had an error on the agenda earlier. lol

[08:37] bulaklak: Thanks, Zinnia. Thanks for running the show while
Glitter is at her yoga retreat getting Ohmed up!

[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: I also have all the lovely links to share with
you as well.
[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:
[08:37] Zinnia Zauber: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: A lot to take in, but worth the clicking!
[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: If you are just joining us, please feel free to
introduce yourself with your name, real name, org and web connections.

[08:39] Pooky Amsterdam: <3 them Wharf Ratz

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: yes, Pooky!

Techsoup Announcements

[08:39] Zinnia Zauber: Okay it is time for Techsoup Announcement!

[08:40] bulaklak: Thanks, Zinnia!

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: Go man go!

[08:40] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak

[08:40] bulaklak: Wowzers. That was kind of cool.
[08:40] bulaklak: Anyway.

[08:41] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): … there can be only one.. 😉

[08:41] Coughran Mayo: lol
[08:41] Coughran Mayo: McCleod!

[08:41] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[08:41] bulaklak: I want to touch briefly on the topic of
accessibility. It is certainly a topic I am not anything like an
expert in, but I, like my TechSoup colleagues, am invested in it.
[08:41] bulaklak: To that end, we have made some strides — albeit
perhaps slowly — lately in our approach to our online interactive
events like webinars.
[08:42] bulaklak: We are now offering all of our webinars with live
captioning upon request.

[08:42] Panny Bakerly: sorry I’m late… Jeanne Booth, Freeport
Historical Society, Freeport, NY;

[08:43] bulaklak: Here is some information about how we are doing that
with our ReadyTalk webinars, which is the tool we use for a majority
of our webinars.
[08:43] bulaklak:
[08:43] bulaklak: If we get a request within 72 hours of the event, we
can easily set up the live captioning
[08:44] bulaklak: And we always make sure to promote our webinars far
and wide well in advance
[08:44] bulaklak: And will make sure everyone knows they can request
the live captioning
[08:44] bulaklak: For any of our events not done on the ReadyTalk
platform, we are testing out other methods such as a live person to
transcribe on site by contract
[08:45] bulaklak: We will be testing this out for our upcoming
Nonprofits Live events if they are done on the Watchitoo tool or on
Adobe O
[08:45] bulaklak: Adobe Connect
[08:45] bulaklak: A special thank you and acknowledgment goes out to
Sister Patrice
[08:46] bulaklak: for brining this issue to our attention and working
so patiently and dillegently with us as we muddled through all of our
testing and research

[08:46] Zinnia Zauber: That is great she helped out!

[08:46] Ozma Malibu: Congratulations, bulaklak, Sister. That’s
wonderful. Yay for TechSoup.

[08:46] bulaklak: We are really happy to be offering this service and
hope we can be an example for other nonprofits to take the cue from us
[08:47] bulaklak: We will be sharing all of our learnings on a few
upcoming blog posts and hope those will help other orgs follow the
same practices
[08:47] bulaklak: That’s all I’ve got for today. Thanks, all! Enjoy
today’s meeting and your weekends!

[08:47] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, bulaklak!

[08:47] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak

[08:47] alebez: awesome.

[08:47] Gentle Heron: Thank you for the update Bulaklak, and congrats
to TechSoup for making their offerings more accessible to a larger

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: This is really important stuff!
[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Please follow @techsoup for news.
[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: alebez, do you have anything for us?
[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Any late intros?

[08:49] alebez: mmm…nope. Bulaklak is amazing.

[08:49] XDarkBladeX (darkblade2) shouts: looking for a djs and hosts and dancer

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Indeed.

[08:49] bulaklak: Oh and here is the link where we post all of our events
[08:49] bulaklak:
[08:49] bulaklak: So you can stay abreast of what we have coming up

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: DarkBlade, I don’t know if we can help you with that.

[08:50] XDarkBladeX (darkblade2): ok

Mentor Central

[08:50] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, now Mentor Central!

[08:50] XDarkBladeX (darkblade2): lol

[08:50] Pooky Amsterdam: <3 SL

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: So we have been covering the Tools in a Box
that you can use for your office or other locations.
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: And, I thought I would do a quick repeat on how
to prepare powerpoint slides to bring in SL.
[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you use slideshows in SL?

[08:52] Jen (jenelle.levenque) raises hand

[08:52] DrFran Babcock raises her hand

[08:52] Buffy Beale: raises hand

[08:52] Pooky Amsterdam: raises hand

[08:52] Gentle Heron nods affirmatively

[08:52] Dancers Yao: yes

[08:52] Panny Bakerly: I havent

[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: Great! We know it is an easy way to share info
in a small amount of space.
[08:52] Zinnia Zauber: And, for someone new to SL they “get it”.

[08:52] Russell Boyd (rosco.teardrop): no, but interested to find out how

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: There are lots of slideshow viewers out there.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: pictures (or slides) often being worth a
thousand words, as they say

[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: so let me go through some steps for you.
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: yes, Gentle!
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: Making a slideshow with PowerPoint in Second Life.
[08:53] Zinnia Zauber: This is for creating textures that you will
bring into Second Life to load into some kind of slideshow object.
[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: 1. Create your PowerPoint slideshow as you
would normally. All the effects will not work once in Second Life.
[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: 2. Now go to File > Save as and save your files
as images.
[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: Choose a format that Second Life uses like PNG.
When it saves these files, it creates a new folder with them in it.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: At this point, if you are good with image
enhancement software, you might want to resize the files to a much
more rez friendly size.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Depending on what size the screen is going to
be… an image that is 1024 pixels per inch is the largest you would
go. 512 pixels per inch is better.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: You know how it goes when you are watching
someone do a slideshow and they are whipping through the slides and
you haven’t been able to see any of them. Yeah, that is because they
are too big.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: So, if you can, reduce the size of the texture images.
[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: 3. Upload the Images
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: The images will be numbered in that new folder.
Slide01 Slide02 Slide03 . . .
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: When you are in Second Life, go to the Build
Menu > Upload > Bulk
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Upload the images… get a cup of tea…

Then you can place the images into a slideshow viewer.
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: You select the slideshow viewer (right click)
and choose the Edit.
In the Edit window there are five tabs – General – Object – Features –
Texture – Content
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Choose Content and click and drag the slide
textures in there.

Some times you have to reset the script. So, just open it and hit the
reset button. Then close the Edit Window and show off!
[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: There you go!

[08:57] Buffy Beale: easy peasy

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: That is how you can create textures from
PowerPoint to make a slideshow in SL.
[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[08:57] Jen (jenelle.levenque): There is a viewer in the toolbox that
will allow you to associate a notecard with each slide

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!

[08:57] Jen (jenelle.levenque): It will then say the nc in local chat
when the slide is viewed

[08:57] Russell Boyd (rosco.teardrop): do you recommend any good
slideshow viewers?

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Each is a little different, but about the same.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: My favorite the Preso-Matic Turbo by
DoctorPartridge Allen because it previews the slides for the viewers
before they try to see them on the screen.
[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: But, I am open to testing more.

[08:58] Russell Boyd (rosco.teardrop): thanks

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: I’ll pass out the LM for that if needed.

Educational Machinima with Pooky Amsterdam of PookyMedia

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: Now it is time for our guest!

[08:58] Adalace Jewell: u rock Zinnia

[08:59] CarynTopia Silvercloud: thanks

[08:59] Gentle Heron: Thanks Zinnia.

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Please come up here Pooky!

[08:59] Coughran Mayo whistles and claps

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you guys!

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: I don’t look good, unless you look good. lol

[08:59] Coughran Mayo: and you look marvelous

[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Aww, thank you!
[08:59] Zinnia Zauber: Pooky Amsterdam will present about the
collaborative process of producing an award winning educational
machinima. Pooky Amsterdam who has been producing entertainment on the
virtual plane for about 10 years and her company PookyMedia provides
top quality real animation also known as machinima.
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pooky for joining us today!

[09:00] Pooky Amsterdam: Thank you Zinnia!

[09:00] Pooky Amsterdam: or as I love to call you ZZ

[09:00] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, thank you Zin!

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:00] Gentle Heron: YAY Pooky!

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: How many of you have been on Pooky’s show?

[09:01] Pooky Amsterdam: I really appreciate being with you all today
– this is to a great extent my Second home and I along with all of you
know the value of being in a virtual environment
[09:01] Pooky Amsterdam: and in a group like this feel very much at
home and understood
[09:01] Pooky Amsterdam: If one picture = 1,000 words then one video =
100,000 – we are a visual species, after all. We are also ready to
welcome messages of import if they are presented in framework we want
to look at and understand. Animation fills that well for us & whether
it was Mickey Mouse or the Flintstones has been away to entertain for
generations – It is also a way to educate and the many Public Service
Announcements of my youth I recall the ones that were in fact cartoons

[09:02] Pooky Amsterdam: and we were asked recently his past March
about doing a public service announcement
[09:02] Pooky Amsterdam: Using the great game engine and platform that
is Second Life is indeed somewhat challenging
[09:02] Pooky Amsterdam: it is all about emphathising its strengths –
and minimizing its weaknesses – to the extent that the end results
does not in any way scream

[09:02] Buffy Beale: oh I’ve been on Pooky’s show it’s fun!

[09:02] Pooky Amsterdam: this was made on Second Life
[09:03] Pooky Amsterdam: yayay Buffy is amazing and this group is amazing

[09:03] Adalace Jewell: 🙂

[09:03] Pooky Amsterdam: on the edge for what is the future but as we
live it today

[09:03] Buffy Beale: 🙂

[09:03] Pooky Amsterdam: and it isnt everyone who can look past the
veil in a way that surrounds our Seocnd nation and see it for what it
can be and is
[09:04] Pooky Amsterdam: Buffy mentions the show The 1st Question
[09:04] Pooky Amsterdam: and I will tell a bit of a story if I might

[09:04] Coughran Mayo: not about me I hope

[09:04] Pooky Amsterdam: for all roads led to Machinima
[09:05] Pooky Amsterdam: When I was looking for panelist for the 1st
question which is pretty much as many of you know cause I bug you to be
on the show – all the time I found someone that I wanted to reach out
to –
[09:05] Pooky Amsterdam: Through Gizmag which is a kind of futuristic
up to the minute look into what is being developed technologically in
this world of ours –
[09:05] Pooky Amsterdam: lol Coughran!
[09:06] Pooky Amsterdam: and Dr james canton was invited on – I will
make along story short –
[09:06] Pooky Amsterdam: He is the executiuve producer of the Time
Trvelrs – which is a series we are doing here and I wanted him t
understand that this was a great place for filming
[09:07] Pooky Amsterdam: he woudlsay at first – how many people come
here how many of the targeed population for example teens he wanted to
[09:07] Pooky Amsterdam: and I said look – its not like you say how
many people wereat the Star Trek sound stage for filming

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: oops I was so in late that I forget to give
my name., etc.. Jacques Macaire HUMANBE Action
Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International

[09:07] Pooky Amsterdam: its a platform – its a studio set and its our
sound stage – its where we film
[09:08] Pooky Amsterdam: and we do here because of th vast and
unprecedented amoutn of vitual assets adn the Ip rights toour films
[09:08] Pooky Amsterdam: I would love to show you now the film we are
here for today
[09:08] Pooky Amsterdam: and when I say WE Ido mean that
[09:08] Pooky Amsterdam: its the team tha tmakes these films all ofus
working to our strengths
[09:09] Pooky Amsterdam: Its Russell Boyd who does the great
Directionand editing and sound processing
[09:09] Gentle Heron applauds Pooky’s whole team
[09:09] Pooky Amsterdam: and robwag Soothsayerwhois incredibly gifted
with he builds and all sorts of magic honestly! and post production
[09:09] Pooky Amsterdam: with soudn effects people and the music and more

[09:09] Zinnia Zauber: Yay teamwork!

[09:10] Pooky Amsterdam: so I might be the most easily identified but
Please know that its team effort
[09:10] Pooky Amsterdam: I woudllove ery much toshow the film and then
asnwer any questions about it

[09:10] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes, let’s see it! 😀

[09:10] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! Please share the URL for everyone.

[09:10] Pooky Amsterdam: is that all right?
[09:10] Pooky Amsterdam: ok one sec

[09:10] Buffy Beale: sure is!

[09:11] Pooky Amsterdam:
[09:11] Pooky Amsterdam: everyone please go to your browser window and watch
[09:11] Pooky Amsterdam: Vector Inspectors – or How to catch a

[09:11] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, please watch and then we will back.

[09:11] Gentle Heron loves the name!

[09:11] DrFran Babcock is fascinated with the smooth movement

[09:13] Coughran Mayo: great camera work!

[09:13] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, great camera work & editing…

[09:13] Buffy Beale: very smooth

[09:13] Pooky Amsterdam: Russell is amazing

[09:14] Russell Boyd (rosco.teardrop): thanks, it really has to look
good for the audience to pay attention

[09:14] Pooky Amsterdam: especially when theya re 12

[09:15] Coughran Mayo: will be interested to hear how much advance
planning goes into a project like this before the cameras roll

[09:15] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes, the focus is dyanamic
[09:15] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): *dynamic

[09:15] Pooky Amsterdam: okay if everyone has finished the film (dont
want to say how it ends )
[09:15] Pooky Amsterdam: lol I can take some questions

[09:15] DrFran Babcock: yes, the jerky movement of my educational
videos makes my viewers laugh 🙁

[09:15] Coughran Mayo: 30 seconds left

[09:15] Pooky Amsterdam: k

[09:15] Zinnia Zauber: Do you guys have questions for Pooky or her team?
[09:16] Zinnia Zauber: Ask away!

[09:16] Coughran Mayo: see mine above

[09:16] Buffy Beale: Question: Do you see this form of edu videos
getting more popular?

[09:16] Pooky Amsterdam: Coughrn asked a good q on pre producion
[09:16] Pooky Amsterdam: all right everyone done now?

[09:16] Catt (catt.gable): Beautiful work

[09:16] Pooky Amsterdam: ty

[09:16] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): yes, done

[09:16] Pooky Amsterdam: kudos to team
[09:17] Pooky Amsterdam: all right – Coughran my friend you hit on
something very important
[09:17] Pooky Amsterdam: and that is pre production – getting
everything and I mean everything ready before the cameras roll is
[09:17] Pooky Amsterdam: it took about a 6 weeks to a month to get this
set up actually and that also includes back & forth to the client for
the things which are of most import in terms of look and feel
[09:18] Pooky Amsterdam: the characters – did they register correctly
with them- remember alothough this goes before a different audience the
client is always the first place for approval of assets
[09:18] Pooky Amsterdam: so yes the pre production is key and the more
carefully and completely this is done the better
[09:19] Pooky Amsterdam: I have tos ay we all of us work very closely
and make adjustmensts we need to in the days that lead up to filming
[09:19] Pooky Amsterdam: coughran I hope that answers the question?

[09:19] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): But HOW…storyboards?..test shots?

[09:20] Pooky Amsterdam: Buffy had a good q – but I see Miles whose
work I respect – asking about the storyboards
[09:20] Pooky Amsterdam: and yes
[09:20] Pooky Amsterdam: its important to have this laid out afore
hand for so many reasons – so mny things that will save time and
energy and stress later on

[09:20] Ozma Malibu: wonderful! In my experience creating even a less
professional machinima is a quick, not too expensive way to really
catch imaginations and set minds on fire. in a machinima, you can
focus much better on what’s really important.
Suddenly the audience sees what you are trying to convey. But this is
SO professional and SO beautiful. 6 weeks is not really very long
[09:20] Pooky Amsterdam: we are all of us rather intense people -its
osmethign Ihave noticed inworld – our intensity of passionof purpse of
wanting the most out of time
[09:21] Pooky Amsterdam: and so to make thsi happen well for everyone
because the team is very important we try to do thing sthat build on
our abilities and what we have learned about not wasting time

[09:21] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.

[09:21] Pooky Amsterdam: yes to sotryboardsMiles –

[09:22] Ozma Malibu: if you did that in 6 weeks you definitely didn’t
waste any time 🙂

[09:22] Pooky Amsterdam: essential for also to see how the vision is
going tounfold see where the extrashot might be added or the
superflous removed
[09:22] Pooky Amsterdam: you are right
[09:22] Pooky Amsterdam: we are a tight and highly focused group and
approach our work wiht alaser like clarity fo porpose
[09:22] Pooky Amsterdam: now for Buffy’s question if I might
[09:23] Pooky Amsterdam: Buffy whose spirit always makes me smile so
[09:23] Buffy Beale: aww ty Pooky
[09:23] Pooky Amsterdam: and you knwo its also because I belive so
much in what we are all doing tha thelevel of excellence has to stand
[09:23] Pooky Amsterdam: okay well yes I sure do and Im going to tlak
about how effective this was with the target audience
[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: in order toget a message across you need
tohave a beautiful message and lasoone tht will get in!
[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: and this kind fo film makingis very rich in
color and character – its relly good for this purpose
[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: This was for an audience of K – 8th grade

[09:24] Jen (jenelle.levenque): The animation is so much better than
the cartoons on TV any more

[09:24] Pooky Amsterdam: so you figure 5 – 15 aroudn ther a wide range of ages
[09:25] Pooky Amsterdam: they have already seen SO much youknwo
interms of animation and entertainment
[09:25] Pooky Amsterdam: but you knwo it struck home wiht them
[09:25] Pooky Amsterdam: they recoginzed a look in away from games
they play online from the ubiquitousness of this medium
[09:25] Pooky Amsterdam: it si really a great one for getting hrough
to them – as it registers in a HUGE way

[09:25] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I’m thinking your team must have
built up quite an impressive library of gesture & animation scripts…

[09:25] Sonicity (sonicity.fitzroy): and those bugs were HUGE

[09:26] Pooky Amsterdam: I want to now show some responses that came
diectly from the education specialist at San gabriel mosquito vector
control district wht twill nwo and forever more beknown as SGMVCD
[09:26] Pooky Amsterdam: lol

[09:26] Zinnia Zauber: Any more questions?

[09:26] Pooky Amsterdam: San Gabriel Valley Mosquito & Vector Control
District helps keeps Southern California safe. There has been a recent
outbreak of the aggressive Asian Tiger Mosquitos and PookyMedia was
called upon to deliver a video that children, their families and
caregivers could relate to and understand. We delivered.
“I thought you’d like to know that today was the first Tiger Mosquito
Assemblies and the machinima was a great success with kids
Kindergarten through Eighth grade. The kids in all groups were quiet
and engaged (no fidgeting or talking) with eyes glued to the screen –
even at the very back of the room. They laughed out loud at several
points and really liked the mosquitoes getting squashed. When quizzed
afterward all age groups understood clearly what they needed to do and
how to do it. The only questions I got were about things we didn’t
cover. You got a round of applause from both groups at the end!”
[09:27] Pooky Amsterdam: another thing We were told was that of the
participants which was 30% a very big number for a PSA – that 96% sent
in samples
[09:27] Pooky Amsterdam: the lids were motivated to look for the
mossies and then to also send in the samples
[09:28] Pooky Amsterdam: I was told this was a direct result of the machinima
[09:28] Pooky Amsterdam: the KIDS***

[09:28] Adalace Jewell: awesome

[09:28] Sonicity (sonicity.fitzroy): there was tension built into the
storyline, as we feared for the children near the bugs, I am sure that
kept the attention of the kids

[09:28] Pooky Amsterdam: so this was a huge success for them and for us
and for anyone with relatives family friends or themselves in the area

[09:28] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): imitate what they see

[09:28] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you Soni ti did
[09:28] Pooky Amsterdam: are there any more questions?

[09:29] Adalace Jewell: what’s your next project?

[09:29] Pooky Amsterdam: SGMVCD made some great comments on the video
too you can read – it was a huge success

[09:29] Ozma Malibu: how could others use this? Contact you? Is it OK
to show to a small group?

[09:29] Pooky Amsterdam: well we are also doing Time travelrs
[09:29] Pooky Amsterdam: and tha is a futuristic webseries
[09:29] Pooky Amsterdam: i will paste out the link for the latest
episode we will be working on that too

[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: It is a great series!
[09:29] Zinnia Zauber: Please do!

[09:30] Adalace Jewell: great

[09:30] Buffy Beale: Do you send out a call for actors?

[09:30] Adalace Jewell: hehe, we have a volunteer

[09:30] Pooky Amsterdam:

[09:30] Buffy Beale: fluffs my hair
[09:30] Buffy Beale: lol

[09:30] Pooky Amsterdam: well tbh we do have our own troupe
[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: the tinyspace players
[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: heh

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:31] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): lol 😀

[09:31] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): does your team occupy the
same Real world is there a production studio where you’re
all togeter..or is everyone spread on in the virtual world?

[09:31] Zinnia Zauber: We have time for one more question and then open mic.

[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: this is the latest in the series and please
feel free to go back in time with it to the previous episodes

[09:31] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Hate to run, but RL is dragging me out of here

[09:31] Buffy Beale: bye Jen 🙂

[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: I really see this as expanding for
educational videos for so many reasons

[09:31] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Great presentation Pookie

[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: 1) its very very cost effective in terms of
time and money
[09:31] Pooky Amsterdam: 2) it really resonates with the target audience
[09:32] Pooky Amsterdam: 3) it si possible to recreate just about
anything and anyone

[09:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): @Miles, Great question. Always
interesting to hear how people structure their collaboration

[09:32] Pooky Amsterdam: no they do not
[09:32] Pooky Amsterdam: we are all over the globe

[09:32] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): bye Jen

[09:32] Pooky Amsterdam: and communicate through Skype mostly and effectively
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam:
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam: dropbox
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam: and of course second Life
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you Jen!
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam: Miles we are all over the world but it doesnt
amter we understand this like the back of our hands
[09:33] Pooky Amsterdam: thankyou all and if anyone has anything else
to feed back please dont hesitate to Im me
[09:34] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D
[09:34] Pooky Amsterdam: Big heartfelt hugs to all

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pooky!
[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Please stay with us through the end of the meeting.

[09:34] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) applauds!

[09:34] jacmacaire Humby: Bravo!!

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: If you can, I mean.

[09:34] Ozma Malibu: I am going to go look for standing water after
this. .we have a lot of mosquitos in this Arizona monsoon weather.
even the bit about finding the standing water is so impressive.

[09:34] Ronnie Rhode: Great stuff, Pooky!

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: This was great!!!!

[09:34] Sonicity (sonicity.fitzroy): applause

[09:34] Buffy Beale: hearty applause, thanks Pooky and my fav is still
your “I don’t want to date your avatar” 🙂

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Pooky!

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:34] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have Open Mic Announcements?

[09:35] Chad Mikado: Yes

[09:35] Adalace Jewell: thx Pooky, love your work

[09:35] Chad Mikado: I have one about VAI and IDRAC on behalf of Gentle

[09:35] Zinnia Zauber: Chad go for it!

[09:35] Chad Mikado: Cheers

[09:35] Buffy Beale: slips in a comment that our own Coughran was a
grand winner on The First Question 🙂

[09:35] Chad Mikado: Virtual Ability, Inc. announces the second annual
International Disability Rights Affirmation Conference (IDRAC2012) to
be held Friday August 3rd and Saturday August 4th, in the fully
accessible Sojourner Auditorium. All presentations will be
simultaneously in text and Voice.

The theme of this year’s conference is “A Community of Communities”. A
number of exciting guests are presenting.
[09:36] Chad Mikado: Scheduled presenters include Tom Boellstorff (who
wrote Coming of Age in Second Life);

two social work professors who will lead a panel discussion about
different ways to facilitate communities in Second Life;
[09:36] Chad Mikado: and Chad Mikado (ME!), JANLyssa Serenity, and
Xomotron (all NPC members) who will be discussing how programs can
document and evaluate their impacts in the community.

[09:36] Buffy Beale: sounds fantastic Chad

[09:36] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): congrats Coughran! :S

[09:36] Chad Mikado: Please mark your calendars for Friday, August 3rd
(7 am to 6 pm SLT) and Saturday, August 4th (8 am to 1:30 pm SLT). The
full schedule and information on presenters and sessions for IDRAC2012
will be posted on Virtual Ability’s website this weekend:

[09:36] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): *:D

[09:36] Zinnia Zauber: Great lineup!

[09:36] Chad Mikado: Hope you can make it- that’s it from me

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: That is wonderful! Thank you Chad!

[09:37] Chad Mikado: 🙂

[09:37] Pooky Amsterdam: ty!

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: We can all learn so much from VAI.
[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone else have Open Mic items?
[09:38] Zinnia Zauber: Hmm

[09:39] Pooky Amsterdam: There is a machinima-Expo 2012 that
is currently accepting submissions no entry fee and I urge those of you
who have films to submit them

[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Well, then I will give you are links again and
then open the floor to a couple more questions for Pooky if she has
[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

Nonprofit Commons Blog:




Google Group:

Google Calendar:
[09:39] Zinnia Zauber: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Join us inworld:

NPC Weekly Meeting on Fridays, 8:30 – 10 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

NPC Mentors Meeting: Fridays, 10:10 – 11 AM SLT Plush Amphitheater,
Plush Nonprofit Commons (91,127,26)

Wharf Ratz Tuesday Night Extraordinary Dance Extravaganza, Every
Tuesday 7 – 9 PM SLT Preferred Family Healthcare on Aloft, Aloft
Nonprofit Commons (168,223,22)

CommonGround – Color Themed Monthly Networking Event on 3rd Thursday,
5 – 7 PM SLT CommonGround on Aloft, Aloft Nonprofit Commons (59,68,25)

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Okay!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: More questions for Pooky?

[09:41] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): post the info re the expo please

[09:41] Pooky Amsterdam: okay
[09:41] Pooky Amsterdam: one sec didnt copy & paste correctly
[09:41] Pooky Amsterdam:
[09:41] Pooky Amsterdam: there we go

[09:41] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): ty

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: I have one, how do you like to encourage
machinima to the non virtual world user?
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Is it a way to introduce VW to people?

[09:42] Pooky Amsterdam: well that is a great q
[09:42] Pooky Amsterdam: on one hand you want the machinima to be
appreciated as an animation
[09:42] Pooky Amsterdam: not where was that filmed or oh that was filmed in SL
[09:43] Pooky Amsterdam: yet for somethigns like the recording of
shows Im thinking of programs like Designing worlds for example or
even the 1st q- it si a way for folks to see VW

[09:43] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): that’s free promotion for linden labs

[09:43] Pooky Amsterdam: and in a way they can appreciate and
understand at first
[09:44] Pooky Amsterdam: I knwo ppl have said tome after being on the
1st Q -I was finally able toshow my family – my mom and dad or even
kids and hey understood thsi a bit more

[09:44] Zinnia Zauber: Seeing us in action!

[09:44] Pooky Amsterdam: well Miles – yes machinima is the best
ambassador that LL can have or any VW really itspeaks volumes
[09:44] Pooky Amsterdam: so I do think so yes
[09:45] Pooky Amsterdam: And ther eare films especialy A year in the
life – whcih we did about well a Yearin secondlife and what it can

[09:45] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): didnt linden object to
using ‘second life’ in it is a copywritten term?

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: ah

[09:46] Pooky Amsterdam: they were the ones who contracted us for the video
[09:46] Pooky Amsterdam: all the videos with Second life from the
direct delivery fashion show to the sandboxian to virtual pets to well
A year and there are more films too – were contracted to us from
Linden Lab
[09:47] Pooky Amsterdam: so no t at all Miles not in this case we made
the films they asked us for

[09:47] Zinnia Zauber: Another question, how do nonprofits instill a
call to action in their videos? Through the story or something more

[09:47] Pooky Amsterdam: good q –
[09:48] Pooky Amsterdam: and I will say this – I hear my 80 year old
belved Aunt’s voice when she asked me this question
[09:48] Pooky Amsterdam: “Why should I care about these people?”
[09:48] Pooky Amsterdam: my aunt lee is direct!

[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: hehe

[09:48] Pooky Amsterdam: and that is the question we MUST ask
ourselves in the films that need to deliver both audience and message
and even more relvantly audeince to message and vice versa
[09:49] Pooky Amsterdam: I believe with a human interest story – tha
t really hits home
[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: ah, great!

[09:49] Pooky Amsterdam: so you make instantly a bridge for people to
hop onto the video

[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: so think more about those who will be viewing
than yourself.

[09:49] Pooky Amsterdam: so I thin the call to action means more when
the audicnece can relate
[09:49] Pooky Amsterdam: yes its that contract with that audiencewe must fulfill

[09:50] Ozma Malibu: this video certainly calls us to action regarding
mosquitos. so how to extend that..

[09:50] Pooky Amsterdam: it isnt about personal ego
[09:50] Pooky Amsterdam: its never about ego and in fact the I is
truly lessor to the we in any film

[09:50] Ozma Malibu: aagh mosquitos

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: so as a team works together on these projects
we need some focus group folks to help us out too.

[09:50] Pooky Amsterdam: I oft say that to be in the film making
machinima and art business you have to have an ego to put your work out
there right
[09:50] Pooky Amsterdam: but you must also be egoless to make that work better

[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: right

[09:51] Pooky Amsterdam: yes well the kids wea all over it in that
they went to the yards
[09:51] Pooky Amsterdam: it got them to get up and go and collect samples!
[09:51] Pooky Amsterdam: hey got it they understood they were spoken
toin an intelligent way and entertained –

[09:51] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): heh..there’s definitely no
ego in the machinima biz

[09:51] Pooky Amsterdam: none Miles

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: cool, did you guys see this?
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber:…

[09:52] Pooky Amsterdam: if you make a film for a targeted audience
you must respect them you make a contract with those watching and try
not to break it
[09:52] Pooky Amsterdam: I love legos

[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Pixar’s golden rules of storytelling told in Legos.

[09:52] Pooky Amsterdam: SUPER!

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: I think Pooky is right, you have to set aside
your ego or your org ego to tell a better story and connect.
[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: We all did cry in Toy Story 3, right?

[09:53] Buffy Beale: lol yesss

[09:53] Pooky Amsterdam: Im going to watch that tonight!

[09:53] Zinnia Zauber: Awesome!

[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: You knwo working on a film like Time travelers
about the Singularity – and the range of machine invention we can not
fully comprehend makes me realize us humans with our emotions and
dreams are reachable through portraying things we care about
[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: and as Jane Goddall said
[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: we are meaning seeking creatures
[09:54] Pooky Amsterdam: and I know we find that in each other

[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!
[09:54] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much Pooky!
[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: This has been a wonderful meeting and we are
here every Friday at 8:30 AM SLT.
[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s give it up to Pooky and her team!

[09:55] Pooky Amsterdam: you are truly welcome and thank you thank you
all for being such good family and friends

[09:55] Buffy Beale: cheering!

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Rah!

[09:55] Coughran Mayo: Thanks Pooky, that was great!

[09:55] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, thanks to all of you! 😀

[09:55] jacmacaire Humby: Great meeting… 🙂

[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: And, also a big cheer to our Nonprofit Commons team!
[09:55] Zinnia Zauber: Rah!!
[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you everyone for joining us!

[09:56] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Rah! 😀

[09:56] Pooky Amsterdam: Rah rah nonprofit works!

[09:56] Adalace Jewell: 🙂

[09:56] Zinnia Zauber: We have our Mentors Meeting at 10ish. So please
join us if you have questions or ideas for the Mentors.

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: And, please join us again next week! Bring a friend!

[09:57] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): great, time for me to step away to
top off my coffee…

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you again to our guest Pooky and her team!

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: Get your coffee refuel and please take care everyone!

[09:57] alebez: goodbye everyone. see you next week.

[09:57] Pooky Amsterdam: I must go as well now too! again many thanks to ZZ

[09:57] Zinnia Zauber: You are more than welcome!

[09:57] Mιℒєﻜιιнσця  (miles.eleventhauer): Take care

[09:58] Pooky Amsterdam: S;-D

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you dear friend!

[09:58] Buffy Beale: bye all have a delightful week, see the mentors in 10

[09:58] jacmacaire Humby: Goodbye everyone.. Have a nice week-end..

[09:58] Zinnia Zauber: Have a great weekend!

– End of Line –

Written by: Zinnia Zauber

Transcript for July 20 Nonprofit Commons Meeting- Universal Design for Learning Spaces in VW with Blu Heron

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
July 20, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

8:30 AM Introductions
8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements
8:45 AM Mentors Central
9:55 Universal Design for Learning Spaces in Virtual Worlds with Blu Heron / Wanda Hardy of the International Society for Technology (ISTE)
9:30 AM Open Mic / Announcements

Thank you Ozma for the chatlog!

– Unabridged Transcript –


[08:31] Glitteractica Cookie: Good morning all

[08:32] CarmenLittleFawn: GM everybody 🙂

[08:32] Zotarah Shepherd: Good morning

[08:32] Glitteractica Cookie: Zinnia is not here today, so we are going to lead the meeting

[08:32] Glitteractica Cookie: Let’s get started in the usual fashion.

[08:32] Glitteractica Cookie: Welcome to the nonprofit commons in Second Life meeting, brought to you by us, TechSoup Global!

[08:33] Glitteractica Cookie: Please say your real name, nonprofit affiliation, location that you are sitting in the physical world, URL, twitter handle (if ou tweet) and anything else you’d like to add

[08:33] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, @bridges4women

[08:33] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, @lovefoundation

[08:33] Jen: Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH,

[08:33] Chad Mikado: Chad Mikado; National Service Inclusion Project (NSIP); UMass Boston;

[08:33] HB Eternal: Buffy Rocks!

[08:33] Buffy Beale: lol HB caught you napping 🙂

[08:33] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter, Neenah Historical Society, Wisconsin USA

[08:33] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA Health Care and Human Rights

[08:33] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing,

[08:34] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. (Corporate offices in Aurora CO but all are safe today)

[08:34] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, San Francisco, CA, United States, Online Community Manager, TechSoup Global,, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup

[08:34] Jerry Buchko: Jerry Buchko | Counseling, Coaching, & Tutoring in Personal Finances via Telepresence (Private Practice) | Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA | | @jerrybuchko

[08:34] Glitteractica Cookie: Susan Tenby, Online Community and social media director, TechSoup Global, San Francisco, CA USA @suzboop @techsoup @npsl

[08:34] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:34] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri,, @brenabenoir

[08:34] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, technology outreach to those without access. Arizona, Mexico and On the Road. @ozma

[08:35] Angelbell: University Professor in electronics.IUSF.Venezuela

[08:35] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF, CA @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:35] Gentle Heron: Ohhhhh Angelbell may win the prize for most distant participant today!

[08:35] Angelbell: yes I am 🙂

[08:35] CarmenLittleFawn: Lorna Hawkins, Los Angeles, CA Drive By Agony/keeping kids safe,, a work still in progress

[08:35] Jerry Buchko: yes 😀

[08:36] Jen: Jacque might show up

[08:36] Glitteractica Cookie: any more introductions?

[08:36] Glitteractica Cookie: If you haven’t already introduced yourself, please do so now

[08:36] Blu Heron: I’m here…Blu Heron from Sacramento, CA

[08:36] Blu Heron: I’m presenting UDL today for you

[08:36] Buffy Beale: yay Blu!

[08:37] Jerry Buchko: hi Blue 😀

[08:37] Gentle Heron: Yay BLU!

[08:37] Blu Heron: waves to all

[08:37] Angelbell: 🙂

[08:37] Glitteractica Cookie: If you haven’t already done so, last call to Please say your real name, nonprofit affiliation, location that you are sitting in the physical world, URL, twitter handle (if ou tweet) and anything else you’d like to add

TechSoup Announcements

[08:38] Glitteractica Cookie: ok, then it’s time to pass the mic to Bulaklak, our fearless Senior Manager of Online Community and Social Media

[08:38] Glitteractica Cookie: Bulaklak, can you share some updates with the group?

[08:38] bulaklak: Surely.

[08:38] bulaklak: I think I probably have a fear or two but thanks for the nice intro.

[08:38] Glitteractica Cookie: 😉

[08:38] Buffy Beale: you rock bulaklak

[08:39] bulaklak: First, here are the many ways you all can stay connected with the Nonprofit Commons

[08:39] Jerry Buchko: 😉

[08:39] bulaklak: Here are the many ways to can get involved with
Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:
Nonprofit Commons blog:

Google Group:

NPC Video


Weekly Networking Event: Wharf Ratz, Aloft,
Tuesdays, 7pm SLT
Aloft Nonprofit Commons (168,223,23)

Monthly Networking Event (3rd Thursday):
Common Ground, Plush, 5PM SLT
Plush Nonprofit Commons (128,229,26)


[08:39] Glitteractica Cookie: all of our chat logs and links and all this stuff is located on our wiki
[08:39] Glitteractica Cookie:

[08:40] bulaklak: Next, I want to talk about an upcoming webinar at TechSoup I think y’all will be particularly excited about.
[08:40] bulaklak: We talk a lot about virtual learning here so it’s my pleasure to announce a webinar on how to give excellent online tutorials
[08:40] bulaklak: And, this is with none other than a very good friend of TechSoup, Janet Fouts
[08:41] bulaklak: I’ve been to her webinars before and she is a VERY good trainer
[08:41] bulaklak: That is coming up on July 26 at 11am PT
[08:41] bulaklak: And you can register for that and learn more about it here
[08:41] bulaklak:

[08:41] Glitteractica Cookie: more on janet @jfouts on twitter or

[08:42] Jen: Just use it here

[08:42] Jerry Buchko: sounds intriguing 😀

[08:43] bulaklak: I also want to talk to you very briefly about our TechSoup discussion forums. We’re in the middle of a bit of a reorganization of our categories, and we’re on the lookout for smart, helpful folks who like to answer questions and share their tech expertise with the social benefit community
[08:43] bulaklak: We call these folks Stars, Gems, and Hosts on the forums
[08:43] bulaklak: And they are a bit like the Mentors are here
[08:44] bulaklak: I won’t say a ton about it today, but sometime in the next month or so, we will have our Forums Manager Jayne Cravens come and give a short talk about our forums and the path to Stardom there
[08:44] bulaklak: Jayne is a consummate volunteer manager and all around amazing person

[08:44] Jerry Buchko: when you say forums, do you mean your Google Group(s)?

[08:44] bulaklak: Oh good question Jerry
[08:44] bulaklak: These are our discussion boards on TEchSoup
[08:45] bulaklak: let me get you the link
[08:45] bulaklak:
[08:45] bulaklak: There you go!

[08:45] Jerry Buchko: thanks

[08:45] bulaklak: We’ll set a date and time for Jayne to come
[08:46] bulaklak: And in the meantime you can check out the forums and look for Jayne on Twitter at @jcravens42
[08:46] bulaklak: and online her blog is Coyote Communications
[08:46] bulaklak: She’s always on about something good
[08:46] bulaklak:
[08:46] bulaklak: Okie doke, folks! Those are my updates for today.
[08:47] bulaklak: Enjoy the talk and your weekends!

[08:47] Jen: Thanks bulaklak

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: any updates from u, Alebez?

[08:47] alebez: 🙂 bulaklak has it covered as usual

[08:47] Glitteractica Cookie: ok, good

Mentor Central

[08:48] Glitteractica Cookie: Now it’s time to give the stage over to our fabulous volunteer mentors! Mentors, welcome!

[08:48] JenJen waving to the crowd

[08:48] Buffy Beale: Yayyy Jen!

[08:48] Gentle Heron: YAY Jen! Your presentations are always excellent.

[08:48] CarmenLittleFawn: hey Jen

[08:48] Jen: Thank you

[08:48] Tiki4: wooohoooo go Jen

[08:48] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Jen

[08:48] Jerry Buchko: woot! 😀

[08:49] Jen: Zinnia asked me to do something on the tools in the Techsoup toolbox

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: yes

[08:49] Jen: If you don’t have one, get on over to their office and pick one up

[08:49] Glitteractica Cookie: updating it is the goal

[08:49] Jen: So, today, I’m doing one on the Visitor Counter

[08:49] Jen: Something I use since our board sometimes asks what the impact of SL is for us

[08:50] Zotarah Shepherd: Good

[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Created 120718
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Created for Nonprofit Commons Mentor’s Corner
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: by Jenelle Levenque
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Transgender American Veterans Association (TAVA)
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: A. Purpose
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: To introduce you to a useful tool the “NPC – Visitor Counter with email function” The description states it “Detects avatars and keeps time.
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: B. Functions of the Visitor Counter
[08:50] Jen: BTW, I’m using another tool to do the presentation so I don’t have to cut and paste
[08:51] Jen: But thats another time

[08:51] Gentle HeronGentle Heron smiles

[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 1) Detect an avatar within a range set by the owner.
[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 2) Check for avatar presence on a time interval set by owner.
[08:51] Jen: If you look between Oama and Zotarah you will see a little gizmo
[08:51] Jen: This is a visitor counter
[08:52] Jen: You set the range for detection and how often it checks
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 3) Record the name of the avatar and the time, SLT.
[08:52] Jen: It records the name of the visitor
[08:52] Jen: I use this to get back to them later if I’m not iin the office
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 4) Record the name only one time. If an avatar leaves and returns, the name is recorded one time.
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 5) Maintain the “name” of the location.
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 6) Send the list to an email address at an appropriate interval. When list is emailed, the list will be reset.
[08:53] Jen: If you have more than one location, you can name the counter
[08:53] Jen: You can arrange for an email with the current list of names
[08:53] Jen: This is optional
[08:53] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: C. Commands
[08:53] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 1) “say list”
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) If you are in chat range, the script will say the list to local chat. This will let you see who has been in your office.
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 2) “reset list”
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) clears the list and starts over.
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 3) “email list”
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) to send the list via email and clear the list.
[08:54] Jen: This forces an email otherwise the email is sent on a schedule that you set in the script
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) The email address must be in the script.
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 4) “help”
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) will give you a list of the commands.
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) Only the owner may use the Counter commands.
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: D. Notes
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 1) Remember it searches a radius
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) The office may have “blind spots”.

[08:55] Gentle Heron: be sure you include the door

[08:55] Jen: since the offices are square and the search is a radius, you may not reach the corners
[08:55] Jen: Make sure it covers your doors
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) may record avatars outside your office.
[08:56] Jen: if the radius is too large, you might get people who don’t actually walk in
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 2) There are other tools that may provide this functionality, but this one is first, free.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 3) The script is full perms so you can modify it to suit yourself.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) You will have to edit the script to provide the necessary configuration information.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) Should you modify the script, please share with your neighbors at Nonprofit Commons.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 4) I use it to record the names of people who come by the office.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) The owner’s name will not be recorded.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 5) I look up the avatars
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) I send them a personal IM thanking them for stopping by.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) I give them our business card.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: c) If the avatar is less than 60 days, I also offer to help them with their Second Life questions.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: E) Summary
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 1) Make a record of your visitors and contact those who come by while no one is in the office.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 2) You will find other very useful tools in the tool box.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: a) Take a look and find those that are useful to you,
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: b) Questions? Ask your local neighborhood mentor.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: c) Share your thoughts and ideas with us.
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: d) More on other tools later.
[08:57] Jen: Thank you

[08:58] Buffy Beale: cheering, great info Jen thanks!

[08:58] Jerry Buchko: Awesome! 😀

[08:58] Jen: Just be careful about going to Wharf Ratz on Tues

[08:58] Namaara MacMoragh: Yay! Thank you Jen!

[08:58] Gentle Heron: Thank YOU Jen. Very nice brief summary.

[08:58] Jen: That’s how I got this job

[08:58] Buffy Beale: lol

[08:58] Tiki4: you go girl

[08:58] Zotarah Shepherd: ♥(`’•.¸(`’•.¸ * ¸.•’´)¸.•’´)♥
[08:58] Zotarah Shepherd: Yayyyy!!! Well done!!!
[08:58] Zotarah Shepherd: ♥(¸.•’´(¸.•’´ * `’•.¸)`’•.¸)♥

[08:58] Gentle Heron: HAHAHAHA now we know…. but Jen you are good at this.

[08:58] Angelbell: Thanks for your information Jen

[08:58] Jerry Buchko: Yes very good 🙂

[08:58] Chad Mikado: I agree

[08:58] Jen: There are a lot of tools

[08:58] Zotarah Shepherd: Thanks Jen

[08:58] Ozma Malibu: thank you!!!

[08:59] CarmenLittleFawn: Thank you 🙂

[08:59] Glitteractica Cookie: Thanks

[08:59] Gentle HeronGentle Heron thinks Jen will be in this business a good long time

[08:59] JenJen stands up and bows
[09:00] Jen: Thank you, thank you, thank you

[09:00] Jerry Buchko: 😀

[09:00] Jen: No applause, just throw money

[09:00] bulaklak: lol

[09:00] Jerry Buchko: lol

Universal Design for Learning Spaces in Virtual Worlds with Blu Heron / Wanda Hardy of the International Society for Technology (ISTE)

[09:00] Glitteractica Cookie: And now, we have our featured guest!

[09:00] CarmenLittleFawn: hehehe

[09:00] Glitteractica Cookie: Blu Heron / Wanda Hardy will join us at the Nonprofit Commons to talk about Universal Design in Learning (UDL) and share the key points of a professional learning “package” that bundles Virtual World (VW) accessibility issues, resources, and workshop-style activities for engaging educators in collaborative solutions inworld.
It is impossible to create a virtual classroom that is usable by everyone, in all situations. It is possible to use an UDL process that results in products, environments, and experiences that are usable for the largest group of people in a VW and effects differentiated teaching and differentiated learning.

About Blu:
Blu Heron / Wanda Hardy earned her Masters of Education, Educational Technology, Sacramento State University, CA. Her involvement in education spans many years and includes: 16 years teaching high school sciences; 17 years as a community educator, web site developer, and software tester for an electrical utility; and volunteer mentor in Second Life (SL)
[09:01] Glitteractica Cookie: Give it up for Blu Heron!

[09:01] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Blu!

[09:01] Buffy Beale: cheering!

[09:01] CarmenLittleFawn: yay

[09:01] Gentle HeronGentle Heron adds a note: Blu is my SL “cousin”, not my alt as was rumored recently at VWBPE.

[09:01] Glitteractica Cookie: Blu, please take the stage

[09:01] Jerry Buchko: lol

[09:01] Blu Heron: ty!..give me a sec to get my stuff rezzed out….

[09:01] Zotarah Shepherd: hehe

[09:01] CarmenLittleFawn: giggles

[09:01] Jen: ********APPPLLLAAAUUUSSSEEE********

[09:01] Zotarah Shepherd: 28 on the sim

[09:02] Blu Heron: Thank you, for inviting me.
And thanks to all of you for choosing to attend this session.
I hope you find something useful today.
[09:03] Blu Heron: I usually deliver this presentation in text chat, voice, and with graphics (to model my message of differentiated teaching and learning).

For this reason you will see descriptions for the slides in chat. For example,
[09:03] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Presentation date, time, location. Image of human finger touching virtual finger from laptop.
[09:03] Blu Heron: Often presenters will have others transcribe (either voice to text or text to voice) during the presentation. Voice is not activated on this sim, so that mode of content delivery is not available for this presentation today.

[09:03] Glitteractica Cookie: but are you doing this presentation in chat only

[09:03] Blu Heron: Presentation is available on Note Card today:

Click the box next to me to get a folder of information about today’s presentation.
Look in Recent Items for a folder named UDL Presentation.

[09:04] Glitteractica Cookie: today? We do this for accessibility reasons, and so we an keep a record of our meetings

[09:04] Gentle Heron: Thanks, Blu, for all the “stuff”

[09:04] UDL Presentation – Nonprofit Commons, July 20, 2012 owned by Blu Heron gave you ‘UDL Presentation – Nonprofit Commons, July 20, 2012’ ( Plush Nonprofit Commons (115,125,21) ).
[09:04] Blu Heron: I will try to keep my talking to 15 minutes, so there will be time at the end for your questions. Please keep questions out of chat until then. The reason I ask is because it can be confusing to sort out different threads of conversation in chat, especially for newcomers and for individuals with physical or cognitive disabilities.
[09:05] Blu Heron: I personally don’t like nc readers and don’t use them, so my chat will not be in green today.
[09:05] Blu Heron: ;D
[09:05] Blu Heron: A bit more about me.

SLIDE: Blu Heron image
January 28. 2007 – Blu Heron avatar created in SL.

I discovered virtual worlds and Second Life during coursework for my Masters in Educational Technology at California State University, Sacramento, California (CSUS).

[09:05] jacmacaire Humby: Hi everyone.. Sorry for the late.. Problem to connect from FranceHi everyone Sorrry for the late.. problem to connect from France

[09:05] Blu Heron: SLIDE: UDL cover screen
Wanda Hardy Masters project cover page: Universal Design Considerations for Learning Spaces in Virtual Worlds.
[09:06] Blu Heron: SLIDE: California map with California State University logo.
Today’s presentation is based on a project for my culminating experience that I completed in 2010, Universal Design Considerations for Learning Spaces in Virtual Worlds.
[09:06] Blu Heron: some here may be educators, and some not, but the information is of value to all who work in public and social spaces
[09:07] Blu Heron: My project was to create a professional learning “package” that bundles VW accessibility issues, key UDL principles, resources, and workshop-style activities for engaging educators in collaborative solutions in-world.
[09:07] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Illustration of Facilitator’s Guide and Workshop User’s Guide.

Two major documents evolved:
1. A workshop Facilitators Guide
2. A workshop User’s Guide
[09:07] Blu Heron: The Facilitator’s Guide suggests time frames and provides guidelines and checklists to help you plan, deliver, and follow up a professional learning experience for your staff.
[09:07] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Sample checklist from Facilitator’s Guide Checklist

I included resources specific to workshop leader roles, tips for trouble-shooting workshop problems, and assessment. Pre-workshop and post workshop materials are included.
[09:07] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Sample page from Facilitator’s Guide

Each section in the User’s Workshop Guide has a correlating section in the Facilitator’s guide:
Goals and objectives
Supplemental workshop content
Suggested time frame
Sample files and Worksheets
[09:08] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International @Humanbe
[09:08] Blu Heron: these materials were designed for an education district to provide teacher training for virtual world teaching, but could be useful to train any staff who works with groups in Sl
[09:08] Blu Heron: or other virtual worlds
[09:09] Blu Heron: sorry I think some were advancing my slides..let me find the slide again!
[09:10] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Suggested agenda for a workshop section.

Experienced educators in SL have indicated short workshops in a series are more desirable that extended sessions.

Workshop is delivered in a series of 1.5 – 3 hour sessions.
[09:10] Blu Heron: Workshop agendas are offered as outlines for you to customize to meet your needs.

The Workshop User’s Guide content can be approached sequentially or examined by topics that meet your staff training needs.
[09:11] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Excerpt from VW Viewers activity

I focused on areas of the virtual world experience where Universal Design principles can be used to enhance the experience for all users. Thus, the Workshop User’s Guide is organized into five major sections:
[09:11] Blu Heron: Introduction
Virtual World Viewers
Communication in VWs
Navigating VWs
Building Design in VWs
[09:11] Blu Heron: Each section has similar organization:

Presentation of the content
Suggested reading
Key ideas summary
Group Activity
Reflection and/or self-assessment
[09:11] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Universal Design Playground layout

[09:12] Blu Heron: I presented this project at the VWBPE 2012 conference in SL, and created an informational and interactive UDL Playground for the conference.
[09:12] Blu Heron: And I invite you to experience the UDL Playground this week at its temporary location: SLURL: Tranquility Station (205,143,1046)
You have the SLURL and LM in the session folder.
[09:12] Blu Heron: Although my original project was directed to the educational community, the principles are applicable to any build in a virtual world where people meet to learn and socialize.
[09:12] Blu Heron: For this presentation (and the UDL Playground), I selected key ideas and a sampling of the interactive vignettes that I think you can easily apply in your own virtual classrooms, meeting places, and other venues right now.
[09:13] Blu Heron: SLIDE: What is UDL?

It all begins with an understanding that Universal Design in Learning (UDL) is a process that identifies and develops instruction (differentiated teaching) to meet diversity in student learning (differentiated learning).
[09:13] Blu Heron: learning is not restricted in Sl to formal universities…
[09:13] Blu Heron: any social meeting where people interact, learning is happening
[09:14] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Why Use UDL?

It’s good pedagogy!
It’s the law for many educational entitites and other public spaces.
It results in a better shared experience for everyone; it’s more than disability accommodation.
[09:15] Blu Heron: so Universal Design makes the virtual expereince more enjoyable for’s not just about disability acces.
[09:15] Blu Heron: I think designing spaces in virtual worlds is not unlike the considerations you would take for good web design.
[09:16] Blu Heron: you consider diability acces, certainly, but also the users connection speed and client software, whether they have color blindness, ormaybe even use a non-graphical device…
[09:16] Blu Heron: Smartphones!
[09:16] Blu Heron: one more thing about differentiated learning…
[09:17] Blu Heron: Another explanation details the UDL process as follows:

A) provides flexibility in the ways information is presented, in the ways students respond or demonstrate knowledge and skills, and in the ways students are engaged; and

(B) reduces barriers in instruction, provides appropriate accommodations, supports, and challenges, and maintains high achievement expectations for all students, including students with disabilities and students who are limited English proficient (Edyburn, 2010).

[09:17] Glitteractica Cookie: i wonder when they’re gonna make an app for mobile phones and tablets that works with SL

[09:17] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Sample activity

UDL principles are applicable to the virtual classroom (and other meeting spaces).

There is not time to go through an activity entirely in a short informational session.

So I have included the complete text for Activity #1 in the note card. I encourage you to get together and try the activity: read each scenario and discuss each presentation method.

[09:17] Glitteractica Cookie: Anshe Chung’s app doesn’t work

[09:18] Glitteractica Cookie: mobile design for virtual worlds seems far off

[09:18] Chad Mikado: @Glitteractica- I have a “Metaverse” app on my iphone that allows some access into SL

[09:18] Blu Heron: think about how the presentation of the contnet is different, how different users might use it or not be able to use it

[09:18] Glitteractica Cookie: really chad, i will check it out

[09:18] Blu Heron: the UDL playground has an exhibit on other connection devices…pleae visit and try it if you can

[09:19] Chad Mikado: cool. FYI, it’s just okay

[09:19] Blu Heron: it is hard to keep it all updated with the latest viewers and devices.
[09:19] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Excerpt from VW Viewers activity.

Another activity encourages workshop participants to log in with a text-based viewer and interact with various vignettes. You can experience for yourself at the UDL PLayground.
[09:19] Blu Heron: EXAMPLE:
View each scene in a graphical viewer. Then log in with a text-based viewer and revisit the mesh, media on a prim, and chairs in the vignette.
[09:20] Blu Heron: SLIDE: UDL Playground Example, Delivering Content

Voice, text, and graphics convey information in SL.
[09:20] Blu Heron: When graphics or text can’t be seen, then information needs to be given in descriptive audio recording or voice.

Presentations in voice need text (note card) alternatives or transcription to text chat. Plain text is best for non-graphical viewers.
[09:20] Blu Heron: That’s what I have attempted to do in this presentation!
[09:21] Blu Heron: Vocie is not available here and could be an issue for some.
[09:21] Blu Heron: I have thought about that.
[09:21] Blu Heron: Perhaps if some users in your virtual space nee dto have the content in voice, you could use Skype.
[09:21] Blu Heron: That would take some pre-planning for you nad your users.

[09:22] Carl Solutionary: Question: Is there a website where your UDL resources are posted? Thx

[09:22] Blu Heron: SLIDE: UDL Playground Example, Name Objects

Some non-graphical viewers allow additional functions such as taking objects into inventory or sitting on an object.
[09:22] Blu Heron: Default name of a prim is “Object.”
User actions can only be completed if objects have a useful name and can be distinguished from one another.

EASY FIX: Give your prim objects a descriptive name that can be understood by all users (in all viewers).
[09:22] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Avatar persona

For some people in Second Life the persona of their avatar is very significant.
The 3-d representation of the person helps define who they are.
For example some students choose to have their avatar in a wheelchair or blind students will use a virtual seeing-eye dog or cane to navigate.
[09:23] Blu Heron: Do you have seating for Tinies?
[09:23] Blu Heron: How will you accommodate diversity in the virtual space?

[09:23] Jerry Buchko: (Hmm.. but what about the language barrier?)

[09:23] Blu Heron: nods… that too.
[09:24] Blu Heron: the Translators available are not ideal for translating.
[09:24] Blu Heron: so this would be another time to consider transcribers if you know you will have a specific language need
[09:24] Jerry Buchko: Yes, was thinking also about naming of objects.
[09:25] Blu Heron: ahhh…yes!
[09:25] Blu Heron: that is something to think about a solution.

[09:25] Jerry BuchkoJerry Buchko nods.

[09:25] Blu Heron: think about that for a while and we can take some ideas at the end
[09:25] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Student perceptions and preferences for room design

Environmental surroundings, seating, floor and wall design, windows, and lighting contribute to suitability of learning spaces in VWs.
[09:25] Blu Heron: In one recent study both graduate and undergraduate students expressed a high satisfaction for rectangular room shape, circular seating, uncluttered walls and surroundings, and 50% window lighting (Saleeb & Dafoulas, 2010).
[09:26] Blu Heron: There are no design regulations for building a virtual classroom. It’s up to you!

Try out the model rooms in the UDL Playground.
You can click the ceilings, inside walls, and floors to change the textures.
[09:26] Blu Heron: I say classroom here, but it can refer to any social space
[09:26] Blu Heron: Notice the difference between doors. Phantom or non-phantom is a decision you need to consider for different areas of your building.
[09:27] Blu Heron: at teh UDL Playground room examples, you may have a copy of the chair rezzing tables in the rooms, but think about if there might be some drawback to using them.
[09:28] Blu Heron: another important thing to consider is motion or anything that causes a sense of motion to the users. Also, bright lights (glow) and flashing textures

[09:28] 01 Hifeng: you think about all details 🙂
[09:28] 01 Hifeng: so interesting

[09:28] Blu Heron: SLIDE: It is possible to follow a Universal Design (UD) process in your learning and social spaces in SL.

It‘s impossible to create a virtual classroom which is usable by everyone, in all situations.
[09:28] Blu Heron: However, it is possible to follow a Universal Design (UD) process that results in products, environments, and experiences that are usable for the largest group of people.
[09:28] Blu Heron: I hope this information is useful and encourages you to consider VW accessibility and usability issues when plan or redesign your social spaces in SL and other VWs.

I encourage you to take the responsibility for making your virtual world spaces accessible and usable for all – don’t leave it all to the users!
[09:29] Blu Heron: SLIDE: Sojourner Auditorium at VAI

Virtual Ability Island is an exemplar for UDL.

Kudos to Nonprofit Commons for your meeting space! It is uncluttered, open, and includes ramps in the building design.

[09:29] Jerry Buchko: Yes, very useful! 😀

[09:29] Chad Mikado: props to Sojourner and VAI!

[09:29] Blu Heron: That is enough from me! Any quick questions or comments?

[09:30] Ozma Malibu: Beautifully done, Blue. This is so exciting & I will visit & maybe sometime we can have a field trip to the playground
[09:30] Ozma Malibu: Is it still true that the cal state system cannot, by law, use any new technologies that are not accessible? I remember meeting the CTO in RL, at a conference in Florida. I had a very small presentation on accessibility (8 participants, mostly special ed teachers, who reviewed SL for accessibility issues and possible directions in which we might help drive the technology. (ha.) Then later I met him in SL as well! But that was years ago.

[09:30] Dallas Trefoil: Very good presentation. Thank you!

[09:30] Blu Heron: yes, please do! If you want me to be there I am happy to do so, or you are welcome to visit on your own

[09:30] Ozma Malibu: thanks!

[09:30] Gentle Heron: Thank you Blu for explaining what is “universal” about “univeral design.”

[09:31] CarmenLittleFawn: OM Goodness yes Blu this is most valuable information as I think at contemplate what has happen this morning in Aurora, Colorado this is very valuable information and I thank you so very much for taking the time to create and present this to us today 🙂

[09:31] Angelbell: good information…love it

[09:31] Blu Heron: this is a temporary location (probably for about three weeks)

[09:31] bulaklak: I had not heard of Universal Design but now I am very curious to know more!

[09:31] Blu Heron: you can always IM me and I can let you know the location

[09:31] CarmenLittleFawn: I see great possibilities in usage

[09:31] Blu Heron: great!

[09:31] Chad Mikado: do you have UD guidelines for all kinds of “virtual” presentations (conference call, webinar, etc.), more than just SL

[09:32] Ozma Malibu: Is it still true that the cal state system cannot, by law, use any new technologies that are not accessible?

[09:32] Chad Mikado: I really like these guidelines you spell out and would like to apply to this to other kinds of online intereaction

[09:32] Blu Heron: after researching…and I need to continue to research…I would say the best guideslines are to make your material avaialble in as many media modes as possible
[09:32] Blu Heron: what ever the type of event or space

[09:32] CarmenLittleFawn: yes 🙂

[09:33] Blu Heron: know your users.

[09:33] Ozma Malibu: Great, thorough guidelines.

[09:33] Dallas Trefoil: with clear directions to each mode (as you say, label objects).

[09:33] CarmenLittleFawn: you are awesome Blu 🙂 again ty

[09:33] Blu Heron: I teach building classes at Builders Brewery in Sl…some of my students have indicated to me they have problems reading and/or have dyslexia
[09:33] Blu Heron: when they request it, I teach using voice too

[09:34] Zotarah Shepherd: I have also heard that Qzma

[09:34] Blu Heron: ty for having me!

[09:34] CarmenLittleFawn: very nice

[09:34] Blu Heron: It was fun and I appreciate the opportunity to share my information

[09:34] Buffy Beale: that was fantastic thanks!

[09:34] Blu Heron: did everyone get a folder with the session materials?
[09:34] Blu Heron: in the yellow box bedise me

[09:34] Buffy Beale: yes thanks

[09:34] Namaara MacMoragh: thank you Blu… great presentation… and thank you for the materials.

[09:34] Glitteractica Cookie: maybe you could do some accessibility audits for spaces in the NPC

[09:34] Chad Mikado: yes

[09:35] Zotarah Shepherd: Yep

[09:35] CarmenLittleFawn: Yes

[09:35] Angelbell: yes

[09:35] Dancers Yao: yes thank you

[09:35] Blu Heron: lol….I think Gentle Heron and othe VAI residents could help youon htat

[09:35] Zotarah Shepherd: Great idea to do audits

[09:35] Glitteractica Cookie: OK, thanks for the presentation

[09:35] Ozma Malibu: seems like this work would go far in allowing people to show that SL can be accessible.

[09:35] Blu Heron: Gentel was helpful with suggestions when I built a conference sim a coupkle of years ago.
[09:36] Blu Heron: There is a lot to think about and so much can be assumed or overlooked

[09:36] Glitteractica Cookie: OK, any final questions for Blu?

[09:36] Chad Mikado: That’s why Gentle is the best 🙂

Open Mic / Announcements

[09:36] Glitteractica Cookie: if not, it’s time for open mic
[09:37] Glitteractica Cookie: Does anyone have any announcements for the larger group?
[09:37] Glitteractica Cookie: (thanks again Blu)

[09:37] Zotarah ShepherdZotarah Shepherd applaudes Blu. Great presentation!

[09:37] Glitteractica Cookie: indeed!

[09:37] Blu Heron: yw..ty for having me!
[09:38] Blu Heron: I must go now…another appointment in Rl. I will come agin to your meetings.

[09:38] Glitteractica Cookie: please do join us

[09:38] Brena Benoir: Thank you Blu!

[09:38] Buffy Beale: that’s great Blu you’re always welcome

[09:38] CarmenLittleFawn: bye have a great day

[09:38] Tiki4: waves biiii

[09:38] Zotarah Shepherd: Bye Blu

[09:38] Tiki4: byeeee even

[09:38] Glitteractica Cookie: Does anyone have anything to say to the larger group in open mic format?
[09:39] Glitteractica Cookie: anyone?

[09:39] HB Eternal: i do

[09:39] Glitteractica Cookie: OK, go for it/ HB

[09:39] Tiki4: I would like to invite any military persons to please contact me

[09:39] HB Eternal: We are collaborating with an org in Costa Rica the reforests
[09:40] HB Eternal: some of our volunteers recently built a small sim for them

[09:40] Glitteractica Cookie: HB…which nonprofit? URL?

[09:40] HB Eternal: La Reserva Foundation
[09:40] HB Eternal: let me get the LM
[09:40] HB Eternal: Gemini (138,134,801)
[09:41] HB Eternal: We welcome you to check it out – a great experience of two nonprofits working together in SL
[09:41] HB Eternal: And La Reserva had never heard of SL before

[09:41] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks for letting us know

[09:41] CarmenLittleFawn: 🙂

[09:41] Glitteractica Cookie: Next up Gentle heron has an announcement

[09:41] Brena Benoir: Yay for collaboration!

[09:42] Jerry Buchko: 😀

[09:42] Gentle Heron: Save the dates! International Disability Rights Affirmation Conference, August 3/4 at Virtual Ability Island.
[09:42] Gentle Heron: One of the presentations will be about how to evaluate the impact of your work in the community. Chad Mikado will be running that presentation, with assistance from our friends at JAN.
[09:42] Gentle Heron: Please put these two dates on your calendar and watch the Virtual Ability website for announcements. Thanks.

[09:43] CarmenLittleFawn: ty

[09:43] Glitteractica Cookie: thank u gentle
[09:43] Glitteractica Cookie: anyone else?

[09:43] HB Eternal: the new Google Nexus 7 rocks – got ours this week

[09:44] Glitteractica Cookie: any final announcements for the larger group?

[09:45] Jerry Buchko: @HB, Good to know 🙂 I’ve been following it.

[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: OK, then I guess we are ending early today
[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: thanks all and I guess that’s a wrap

[09:45] Namaara MacMoragh: Thanks for another great meeting.

[09:45] Chad Mikado: have a good weekend all

[09:45] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile: It was very interesting.
[09:45] Brique Topaz – Feed a Smile: Thank you.

[09:45] CarmenLittleFawn: Thank you and everyone have a great day and week end 🙂

[09:45] Glitteractica Cookie: I won’t be here for the next two weeks b/c I will be on a vacation! in Mexico! but Bulaklak and Alebez will hold down the sim

[09:45] CarmenLittleFawn: yes it was and valuable information

[09:46] Buffy Beale: another great meeting thanks all
[09:46] Buffy Beale: ooo have fun Glitter

[09:46] CarmenLittleFawn: have fun Glitter

[09:46] fate Paule: take care and thanks for the information

[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: thnaks

[09:46] alebez: thanks everyone!

[09:46] Angelbell: thanks for all the information 🙂

[09:46] Glitteractica Cookie: bye!!

[09:46] Ozma Malibu: wonderful, both parts of the meeting today.

[09:46] Jerry Buchko: excellent! take care all 😀

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Written by: Zinnia Zauber

“Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” with Tom Boellstorff / Tom Bukowski for August 24 Nonprofit Commons Meeting

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
August 24, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

On Friday August 24, University of California in Irvine Professor Tom Boellstorff / Tom Bukowski will discuss his book, “Ethnography and Virtual Worlds: a Handbook of Method“, that he coauthored with Bonnie Nardi, Celia Pearce and, T. L. Taylor. (Princeton University Press, 2012)

“Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” is the only book of its kind – a concise, comprehensive, and practical guide for students, teachers, designers, and scholars interested in using ethnographic methods to study online virtual worlds, including both game and nongame environments. Written by leading ethnographers of virtual worlds, and focusing on the key method of participant observation, the book provides invaluable advice, tips, guidelines, and principles to aid researchers through every stage of a project, from choosing an online fieldsite to writing and publishing the results.

Tom Boellstorff is Professor in the Department of Anthropology at the University of California, Irvine; from 2007–2012 he was Editor-in-Chief of “American Anthropologist”, the flagship journal of the American Anthropological Association. His research projects have focused on questions of virtual worlds, sexuality, globalization, nationalism, language, and HIV/AIDS. He is the author of many articles and the books “The Gay Archipelago” (Princeton University Press, 2005); “A Coincidence of Desires” (Duke University Press, 2007); and “Coming of Age in Second Life” (Princeton University Press, 2008).


8:30 AM Introductions

8:40 AM TechSoup Announcements

8:45 AM “Ethnography and Virtual Worlds” with Tom Boellstorff / Tom Bukowski

9:35 AM Mentors Central

9:45 AM Open Mic / Announcements

Written by: Zinnia Zauber