John Lester: “To Invent the Future, we must Build Dreams” for the October 26th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 26th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature John Lester. Next Generation multiuser 3d virtual worlds will be tightly integrated with other key communication technologies such as the web and mobile devices. And a future convergence between the technology of virtual worlds and Augmented Reality will offer many new opportunities. In this presentation, John will discuss some of the key features of next generation virtual worlds and best practices on how to build truly engaging simulations within them. He will also give an overview of ReactionGrid’s “Jibe” platform (http://reactiongrid.com/what.aspx).

BIO:

John Lester’s focus is on 3D Simulations and Virtual Worlds for Learning. His background is in neuroscience research and medical education, and he previously worked at Harvard Medical School, Massachusetts General Hospital and Linden Lab. John is currently the Chief Learning Officer at ReactionGrid Inc. (http://reactiongrid.com), helping clients develop new systems for immersive learning using next-generation virtual world platforms that integrate with the web and mobile devices. For more information about John please see http://about.me/pathfinder

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 26th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

http://bit.ly/NPCinSL

AGENDA

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: John Lester
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

 

http://nonprofitcommons.org

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of October 19th meeting – featuring Jeroen Frans

 

[08:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team.

 

[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central – 
  • 8:55 am Jeroen Frans: “Tools for Virtual Engagement”
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting.

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

 

 – Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

 – Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

 – Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

 – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

 – Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

 – Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

 – http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

 

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

 

 – http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

 – http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

 

— INTRODUCTIONS —

 

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Again – Hello everyone, let’s start off with Introductions!

[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.

[08:34] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, http://www.bridgesforwomen.ca @bridges4women

[08:34] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore , Maryland, protectyourself1.org, facebook.com/PY1US, @PY1US

[08:34] Orange Planer: Orange Planer – I’m a dude who eats people.

[08:34] Orange Planer: But not here.

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. http://www.sequimartsalliance.org http://www.facebook.com/sequimartsalliance @renneemiko

[08:34] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc Los Angeles, CA Health Care and Human Right www.eldervoices.net

[08:35] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. www.virtualability.org

[08:35] Ethelred Weatherwax: Dave Dexter. Neenah Historical Society, wisconsin USA

[08:35] Frans Charming: Jeroen Frans, Amsterdam, Vesuvius Group, twitter.com/Frans

[08:35] Jerry Buchko: Jerry Buchko, MA AFC | Counselor, Coach, & Tutor of Personal Finance in Private Practice | http://www.linkedin.com/jerrybuchko | @jerrybuchko

[08:35] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri, www.pfh.org, @brenabenoir

[08:35] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, TechSoup Global, SF, ca. @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:35] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, tech outreach in Arizona, Mexico and On the Road, @ozma

[08:35] Maika Giordano: Mari Carmen Gil, University of the West of England, Bristol, UK

[08:36] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Online Community and Social Media, TechSoup Global, www.techsoup.org, @mmdelong @TechSoup, San Francisco, CA

[08:36] Nicki Clary: Nancy Smyth, University at Buffalo School of Social Work

[08:36] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Community Organizer of NonProfit Commons (@NPSL), Boston, MA area – http://joycebettencourt.com, @RhiannonSL

[08:36] Adalace Jewell: @adalace RoSa Library Brussels (Belgium) www.rosadoc.be

[08:37] CarynTopia Silvercloud: caryn Heilman, Topia Arts Center, www.TopiaArts.org, @TopiaArtsCenter in the Berkshires of NW, MA

[08:37] jacmacaire Humby: Hi everyone

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you are just coming in, please introduce yourself πŸ™‚

[08:37] Jerry Buchko: Hi Jac

[08:38] Buffy Beale: hi Jac

[08:38] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE http://www.humanbe.com Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International @Humanbe

[08:38] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, http://www.gardenforthemissing.org/ and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing, http://www.projectjason.org.

[08:38] jacmacaire Humby: Hi Jerry and Buffy

[08:38] Namaara MacMoragh: Gloria Kraegel with Brain Energy Support Team, WA http://greatkreations.com, http://brainenergysupportteam, @go4victory

[08:38] Orange PlanerOrange Planer waits for a vampire to attack Buffy

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and Glitteractica will be joining us too – she is resintalling the SL client

[08:39] Buffy Beale: lol why me?

[08:39] Orange Planer: Buffy – the vampire slayer – of course.

[08:39] Buffy Beale: oo

 

 

TECHSOUP ANNOUNCEMENTS —

 

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: It is time for TechSoup Announcements!

[08:40] bulaklak: Howdy, folks!

[08:40] Buffy Beale: yay bulaklak!

[08:40] Frans Charming: Hi

[08:41] bulaklak: Just a quick poll here . . . how many of you have heard of or been involved with the Foundation Center?

[08:41] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Topia Arts Center has

[08:41] Gentle Heron: heard of only

[08:41] Zinnia Zauber: I have

[08:42] Zinnia Zauber: I won an award from them way back.

[08:42] bulaklak: w00t!

[08:42] bulaklak: That’s great, Zinnia

[08:42] Zinnia Zauber: πŸ™‚

[08:42] bulaklak: So the news today is that TechSoup has partnered up with the Foundation Center

[08:42] Nicki Clary: I’m aware of it…haven’t been involved with it

[08:43] Nicki Clary: Partnerships are great..congrats

[08:43] bulaklak: We will be pooling resources to create more educational opportunities for nonprofits, foundations, and other orgs

[08:43] bulaklak: We’ve both been collecting lots of data around nonprofits for years

[08:43] Namaara MacMoragh: That’s great

[08:43] bulaklak: So we are also putting our data nerd heads together to do something with it

[08:43] bulaklak: I don’t know exactly what that part is going to look like yet

[08:44] bulaklak: But the goal is to “leverage” that data so that it informs other decision makers about policy

[08:44] bulaklak: For both nonprofits and the populations they serve

[08:44] Buffy Beale: That’s great news about the partnership

[08:44] bulaklak: Foundation Center has a press release on its website with some more details here: http://bit.ly/RIa0HU

[08:45] Praxis: you ore mty hero!

[08:45] bulaklak: And stay tuned for more details to follow in the months ahead!

[08:45] Zinnia Zauber: That is great! They are such a super resource!

[08:45] bulaklak: “Big data” is a trendy term, but we’re committed to figuring it all out at TechSoup, now with the help of the Foundation Center

[08:45] bulaklak: Thanks, all! That’s all I’ve got for today.

[08:45] bulaklak: Have a great meeting and a great weekend!

[08:46] alebez: wooot!

[08:46] Frans CharmingFrans Charming applauds

[08:46] Frans Charming: Have a great weekend as well.

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great and thanks bulklak!

[08:46] Maxwell Spielburg: Pathfinder!

 

— MENTOR’S CENTRAL —

 

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to Mentors Central

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Gentle Heron. Let’s welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.!

[08:47] Buffy Beale: thanks bulaklak and yayyyy Gentle!

[08:47] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Gentle!

[08:47] Namaara MacMoragh: YAY Gentle!

[08:47] Gentle Heron: Thank you all kindly.

[08:47] Maxwell SpielburgMaxwell Spielburg applauds

[08:47] Gentle Heron: Please note the presentation slides behind the stools.

[08:47] Gentle Heron: I’ll raise them up a tad to make it easier to see.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: Is that OK for everyone now?

[08:48] Dancers Yao: yes

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: super!

[08:48] Nicki ClaryNicki Clary nods

[08:48] Gentle Heron: OK then I’ll begin.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: Hello NPC friends. This is a ‘how to’ presentation!

[08:49] Gentle Heron: Today I want to show you how to avoid having me repeat this presentation. I want to encourage each of us to step up and share something they know about as part of the Mentor Corner series.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: Each week someone (far too often Gentle or Zinnia) shares a short piece of information.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: You too can share! Here’s how to make it even easier than those old high school book reports we all used to dread.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: First, choose a topic.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: Make it something you’d like to hear about. Perhaps you already know about this topic, or maybe it’s something you’d like to know more about.

[08:50] Gentle Heron: Both ways work.

[08:50] Gentle Heron: Since we’re talking about this as a book report style presentation, you may already have an article to tell us about. I have a whole file of them on business topics…. Just ask and I’ll find one for you.

[08:50] Gentle Heron: But you can also find your own. Educause has a GREAT series titled β€œSeven Things You Should Know About…”. I really like their seven standard questions they answer for all their topics.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: Their topics are mostly tech topics: http://www.educause.edu/research-and-publications/7-things-you-should-kn…

[08:51] Gentle Heron: But if you don’t want to do a seven-item long report, try Googling something shorter.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: …

[08:51] Gentle Heron: When I Googled β€œ5 steps to…” I got information on risk assessment, studying, fighting stress, accomplishing goals… (as well as how to winterize my car or hide a pimple!)

[08:51] Gentle Heron: β€œ4 steps to…” found me articles on successful Facebook marketing, starting an exercise habit, and effective performance evaluation.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: This is the work, making an outline of the article. But it’s easy if you’ve read something that is listed as steps, because those are your outline entries!

[08:52] Gentle Heron: The first entry in your outline should be the introduction. The last should be your conclusion. In between, just list the author’s steps.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: Put your outline into PowerPoint slides. If you need help with this step, ask a Mentor. We’re happy to help.’

[08:53] Gentle Heron: You don’t even need to do this step, if you don’t want visuals with your presentation!

[08:53] Gentle Heron: …

[08:53] Gentle Heron: If you chose to do a PowerPoint slideset, you’ll probably want some pictures.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: Please be mindful of copyrights. Choose images that are copyright free.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: One great source of copyright-free images is the Morgue File (perfect name for Halloween, right?)

http://morguefile.com/

[08:53] Frans Charming: πŸ™‚

[08:53] bulaklak: 7 steps to giving a 7 step presentation

[08:54] Gentle Heron: Glad you lijke that one, Frans. Right you are Bulaklak

[08:54] Gentle Heron: Write out the text you’ll be presenting in Local Chat.

[08:54] Gentle Heron: Basically, you are now filling in your outline. Don’t just use the words of the article. Add your own examples.

[08:54] Gentle Heron: Bring the slides and text into Second Life and prepare your presentation tools.

[08:54] Gentle Heron: Again, Mentors (I’m looking hard at Jen and Zinnia here!) are happy to help.

[08:54] Zinnia Zauber: We are here for you, man!

[08:54] Gentle Heron: And you’re ready to schedule your Mentor Corner β€œbook report” with Zinnia.

[08:55] Gentle Heron: It’s as simple as that, really.

[08:55] Gentle Heron: I promise, you’ll be glad you shared your knowledge with the rest of us at NonProfit Commons.

[08:55] Gentle Heron: (and you really won’t want me to repeat this presentation, will you?)

[08:55] bulaklak: This is also a good place for copyright-free images: http://search.creativecommons.org/ (although some rights reserved in certain cases)

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you so much, Gentle! It means a lot to us if you present!

[08:56] bulaklak: That was super helpful! Thanks, Gentle!

[08:56] Gentle Heron: Please contact me if anyone wants some articles out of my extensive collection. Just give me the topic.

[08:56] Buffy Beale: you’re the best Gentle!

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: We all have unique insight to share and it is fun to be in the spotlight!

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thank you Gentle!

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Gentle!

[08:56] Ozma Malibu: Thank you Gentle!

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Amazing as always πŸ™‚

[08:56] Nicki Clary: thanks so much Gentle

 

 

— FEATURED PRESENTATION —

 

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Time now for todays featured presenter!

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets all Welcome Jeroen Frans, better known as Frans Charming in Second Life, who will speak to us today about tools for engagement in Second Life and focus specifically on the newer possibilities that are available, such as web integration, temporary attachments and teleport agent.

[08:57] Maxwell SpielburgMaxwell Spielburg applauds

[08:57] Gentle HeronGentle Heron thinks of Frans as “Prince Charming”

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: start whenever your raedy

[08:57] Frans Charming: hi everyone. So lets get this thing started

[08:57] Nicki ClaryNicki Clary applauds too

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Frans!

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: Go for it, Frans!

[08:58] Frans Charming: I tried to get prince but it was taken.

[08:58] Frans Charming: Hello everyone, I’m Jeroen Frans in Real Life and you can see what I’m called here. πŸ˜› 

Just like last week’s presenter I’m also from the Netherlands. I’m a Second Life member since january 2005 and in January 2007 Amulius Lioncourt, Rhiannon Chatnoir and I started a development agency called the Vesuvius Group.

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: You told me Frans meant “prince” in German

[08:58] Frans Charming: Our first client was the Ramapo Middle school, and that was actually before we founded our company.

[08:58] Frans Charming: Since then we have worked with a wide range of clients like: Morpheus Media, BeliefNet, Ymere; institutions like the San Francisco Exploratorium, the Chicago Field Museum and the World Bank Institute; educational organizations like the University of Southern California, Global Kids, and Kids Connect; and non-profit entities like Virtual Ability. And lately we have been working with Catea, Georgia Tech’s Center for Assisted Technology and Environmental Access.

[08:59] Frans Charming: This work has also included integrating virtual spaces with web 2.0 tools, social media web portals and streaming of multimedia content.

[08:59] Glitteractica Cookie: SUsan Tenby, Online Community and Social Media Director, TechSoup Global, Logging in late due to SL client reinstall, logging in from Honolulu Hawaii

[08:59] Frans Charming: Ah welcome Susan.

[08:59] Frans Charming: Now that’s out of the way, Lets move on the subject of the talk. Rhiannon has asked me to talk about β€˜Engagement’ tools, and more precisely new tools that LL has provided us with that we can use to give information or otherwise engage with your visitors in SL. I know most of you aren’t scripters or builders. I hope to achieve that after this talk, you will have a good idea what’s possible and work with content developers/scripters to work on your dreams.

[08:59] Glitteractica Cookie: Mahalo! (thx in Hawaiian)

[08:59] Buffy Beale: Hi Glitter and yayyy Frans!

[09:00] Frans Charming: I was exploring these islands to see what you are using tools wise, I saw for instance little use of Web on a Prim, even though most 3rd party viewers support that, and definitely the most popular ones. So I’m curious why that hasn’t been adopted as much yet? What have your experiences been with trying to use it here in NPC?

[09:00] Frans Charming: or a opinion about it?

[09:01] Coughran Mayo: I like that tool

[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: We have it in our offices, when it works, it is wonderful!

[09:01] Frans Charming: Hahaha

[09:01] Coughran Mayo: you can do a lot with it

[09:01] Ozma Malibu: I have been afraid it would be too slow.

[09:01] Coughran Mayo: but yes, sometimes it leaves people out

[09:01] Jerry Buchko: I don’t have an office here, but I have experimented with web on a prim.

[09:01] Nany: Easy to overlook required login, which can make the experience frustrating for visitors.

[09:01] Gentle Heron: We’ve used it minimally during presentations, but it can be laggy.

[09:01] Nany: ie, they dont see anything and don’t know why

[09:02] Frans Charming: Yes it does ask a bit extra from computers.

[09:02] Jerry Buchko: I’m using the SL native browser so found that it has certain limitations, e.g. doesn’t display PDFs.

[09:02] Frans Charming: True we run in to that problem as well.

[09:02] Orange Planer: Just set it to open links in an external browser.

[09:03] Ozma Malibu: Still it’s a nice idea that I can try again after we get the Floaters website back up. We have the perfect place for it in the office.

[09:03] Nany: the floating bars are fugly, too

[09:03] Gentle HeronGentle Heron laughs at Nany’s assessment.

[09:03] Jerry Buchko: I am wondering how much HTML5 can be run in the native browser….

[09:03] Frans Charming: There is a option for a smaller bar, btw. maybe that would be less ugly?

[09:03] Nany: just dont want to many of those in your scene, is all.

[09:03] Ozma Malibu: anything that floats is good with me πŸ™‚

[09:04] Frans Charming: (rezzing twitter garden)

[09:04] Nany: Even the smaller ones can be ugly if there are more than a few in view

[09:04] Orange Planer: Part of the problem with web on a prim is if you have many pages in an area that have videos or play music.

[09:04] Jerry Buchko: Also find that sometimes the viewer doesn’t handle links properly, e.g. won’t let me advance beyond the first page of Google search results…?

[09:05] Frans Charming: That’s odd Jerry. Good to know.

[09:05] Maxwell Spielburg: i am glad you guys find these things useful

[09:05] Frans Charming: I agree Orange, people need to moderate how much they use it.

[09:05] Orange Planer: Personally, I’ve used web on a prim to display the certifications page on the wiki in meetings. Very useful.

[09:05] Jerry Buchko: @Frans, Could just be specific to my end, but haven’t figured out why.

[09:05] Frans CharmingFrans Charming nofd

[09:06] Frans Charming: *nods

[09:06] Frans Charming: There are also other interesting or fun ways to bring in information from the internet. You can use RSS feeds or search results. Here I rezzed a stone garden that polls twitter for the search term NPSL. Every minute it updates life from twitter the latest tweets mention NPSL. If you have twitter you can send a tweet with NPSL in it, right now, and it will appear shortly in the gardens floating text.

[09:06] Buffy Beale: ooooo that’s neat

[09:07] Frans Charming: If you like, you might want to walk around in it, for a better view.

[09:07] Jerry Buchko: I love this non-standard way of displaying something like a Twitter stream… πŸ˜€

[09:07] Frans Charming: πŸ™‚

[09:07] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so have fun tweeting with the NPSL tag about the meeting.. it should show up – neat

[09:07] Frans Charming: Instead of twitter you could be showing the titles of your blog posts, or the titles to your latest flickr pictures. Btw, it works by LSL and a web based scripting(PHP). The LSL script makes a request to my website, which then in turn performs the search to twitter, cleans up the search result before sending it to my LSL script. I will be releasing example code how to do this in the following days on https://github.com/VesuviusGroup/

[09:08] Buffy Beale: I see my npsl RT πŸ™‚

[09:08] Frans Charming: πŸ˜€

[09:08] JoJa Dhara: cool

[09:08] Orange Planer: Awesome, Frans!

[09:08] Frans Charming: It’s like magic.

[09:08] Orange PlanerOrange Planer loves free code!

[09:08] Zinnia Zauber: Awesome!

[09:09] Frans Charming: Btw, if I show something and you have awesome idea, or a question, please share.

[09:09] Frans Charming: Is anybody else here using a nonstandard way of bringing in web content?

[09:10] Gentle Heron: Frans, you just saw how I do it in a presentation.

[09:10] Frans Charming: True.

[09:10] Gentle Heron: When we have persistent posters, I put the pertinent URLs into local chat when the person looking at the poster clicks it.

[09:10] Gentle Heron: URLs on a notecard are less useful.

[09:10] Orange PlanerOrange Planer blinks

[09:10] Gentle Heron: But can be copy pasted

[09:10] Orange PlanerOrange Planer has just thought of an idea for VAI’s announcement board.

[09:11] Gentle Heron: however URLs on a static poster are pretty much worthless.

[09:11] Frans Charming: Yes, Gentle, sharing in chat makes sense.

[09:11] Frans Charming: Orange, dare to share you idea?

[09:11] Frans Charming: *your

[09:11] Jerry Buchko: I’ve created a desk space that allows me a display on the desk surface as well as 3 side by side monitors…. more of a recreation of RL than nonstandard

[09:12] Orange PlanerOrange Planer is rethinking his “idea.” Errr. Might just be garbahje.

[09:12] Frans Charming: Aww, ok.

[09:12] Frans Charming: Ok moving on to a actual new thing.

[09:13] Jerry Buchko: Though in RL, I don’t have a display built into my desk, nor 3 side by side monitors… πŸ˜‰

[09:13] Frans Charming: Often we like to give people who visit our areas some fun interactive attachment, Like a drink or a goofy hat. But often, especially for newbies, it is hard to find them in your inventory and wear them, not to mention that we all collect a ton of those things sitting pointless in our inventory because of this. My inventory has 25k items, modestly small compared to many, I think Rhiannon here must be up to 100k πŸ˜› . Tell me, for the brave, how big is your inventory?

[09:13] Nicki Clary: 44K

[09:13] Nicki Clary: I’m a virtual hoarder

[09:13] Buffy Beale: 20K πŸ™‚

[09:14] Gentle Heron: 62 K but pretty well sorted except for notecards. (Those are my BANE!)

[09:14] JoJa Dhara: 22k

[09:14] Ozma Malibu: Ah. Where do I find the size?

[09:14] Frans Charming: wow Joja, really, that’s small.

[09:14] Jerry Buchko: Haven’t the foggiest idea

[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir: surprisingly 41,004 items

[09:14] Gentle Heron: Good job Joja!

[09:14] Xandi Mars: 57k

[09:14] Frans Charming: At the top of the inventory window

[09:14] JoJa Dhara: πŸ˜‰

[09:14] Orange Planer: I have 10K. But we’re all nothing compared to a couple people I know who have over 200K.

[09:14] Gentle Heron: Ozma, it’s usually at the top of the inventory window, under the word INVENTORY

[09:14] Jerry Buchko: Ah thanks… 14K, rounding up

[09:15] Ozma Malibu: no, not there

[09:15] Frans Charming: A new function that was released this summer will solve this problem, it is called temporary attachments, it works through LSL call. A object with this function will ask your permission if it allowed to attach, when accepted it will attach automatically, but it wont show in your inventory. It is only temporary Attached.

[09:15] Orange Planer: Ozma – in Search, search for a letter, that’ll fill in the number.

[09:15] Praxis: me had 100k, mostly learning items but when LL upgraded their servers, me lost 75%, with no option of redeliver :((

[09:15] Frans Charming: (rezzing a coffee Machine)

[09:15] Gentle Heron: oh drat, Praxis!

[09:16] Frans Charming: Here on my side, you see a red coffee machine, if you click it you can select your beverage of preference and the beverage will ask you permission to attach itself. Give it a try. I have not tested it yet with so many users, so lets see if you can break it.

[09:16] Nicki Clary: that’s awful Praxis

[09:16] Coughran Mayo: worked!

[09:16] Jerry Buchko: Cool πŸ™‚

[09:16] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yay – morning coffee πŸ™‚

[09:16] Frans Charming: It seems to go a bit slower, but seems to work ok. yay

[09:17] Gentle Heron: The animation even over-rides these sit animations.

[09:17] Jerry Buchko: Oops, spilled a bit of coffee trying to clap… πŸ˜‰

[09:17] CarmenLittleFawn: perfect

[09:17] Nicki Clary: of course, drinking this while sitting in SL is a recipe for spilling it

[09:17] Frans Charming: πŸ˜€

[09:17] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ha

[09:17] Jerry Buchko: This would be great to include in a meeting space… πŸ™‚

[09:17] Frans Charming: you i’m pouring it down,

[09:17] Frans Charming: This makes the flow of attaching situational items somewhat different but a lot simpler for the new user. If you want to detach the cup, you can just click on the cup. 

Some of you might have noticed that you can Copy the coffee machine. That’s intended, it’s a freebie for you to take with you.

[09:17] Delia LakeDelia Lake hates it when she dumps coffee all over her head

[09:18] Jerry Buchko: Awesome, thanks Frans.

[09:18] Rhiannon Chatnoir: gifts!

[09:18] CarmenLittleFawn: thanks Frans πŸ™‚

[09:18] Gentle Heron: darn, copy doesn’t work for me

[09:18] Frans Charming: ohno.

[09:18] Frans Charming: Let me set it for sale.

[09:19] Frans Charming: should be for sale for 0.

[09:19] Buffy Beale: that works πŸ™‚

[09:19] Frans Charming: great

[09:19] Coughran Mayo: Got it!

[09:19] Nicki ClaryNicki Clary is wondering if she’ll get a caffeine rush

[09:19] Gentle Heron: Thank you Frans, now it works.

[09:19] Gentle Heron: Only a virtual one, Nicki.

[09:19] Praxis: TYSVM

[09:19] Delia Lake: ty πŸ˜‰

[09:19] JoJa Dhara: hmm item 22.001

[09:19] Frans Charming: (rezz TwitterHud)

[09:19] JoJa Dhara: πŸ˜‰

[09:19] JoJa Dhara: thks

[09:19] Nicki Clary: thanks Frans

[09:19] Orange Planer: “Tools for virtual engagement.” Doesn’t that sound warlike?

[09:20] Jerry Buchko: Got it. Thanks, Frans.

[09:20] Glitteractica Cookie: not at all

[09:20] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ha

[09:20] Pathfinder Lester: lol

[09:20] Frans Charming: Besides just cups, you can also temporary attach HUDs this way. This can be great for sim wide events, where you want to provide a map or a schedule of events, that is simple to attach. Over here on my side you can see a new box a TwitterHud, if you click it, it will ask you to attach. It will attach to the right of your screen, and shows the mobile twitter page with my latest tweets.

[09:20] Orange Planer: Speaking of events….

[09:21] Frans Charming: Normal websites look kinda small and squashed on hud, especially because we don’t want a HUD to fill the whole screen, for a HUD with web on a prim you could create specific small web pages that are catered to the form factor.

[09:21] Orange Planer: And seeing that Pathfinder is here….

[09:21] JoJa Dhara: (brb.. rl madness)

[09:21] Jerry Buchko: Oh very cool! πŸ˜€

[09:21] Glitteractica Cookie: Orange, we have open announcements at end of meeting

[09:21] Orange Planer: I had an idea that one could use pathfinding nonplayer characters to lead people to the events at a region.

[09:21] Glitteractica Cookie: please save taht for the open mic session thanks

[09:21] Praxis: Twitter HUD, PLZ?

[09:22] Frans Charming: Praxis you don’t get it when you click it?

[09:22] Frans Charming: Orange, yea I’m not talking about pathfinding today, but that sounds like a great idea.

[09:22] Gentle Heron: Praxis, I had to “touch” it

[09:22] CarmenLittleFawn: awesome Frans ty πŸ™‚

[09:22] Praxis: the RL URL?

[09:23] Jerry Buchko: So you could basically do the same thing for a web based chat window right?

[09:23] Frans Charming: To detach the twitterhud you might ahve to click the ground firts and then right click the hud to select detach.

[09:23] Jerry Buchko: And this would display an active chat even as I’m moving around in SL space…

[09:23] Nany: HUD filling the whole screen briefly is actually kind of a cool effect in some cases.

[09:24] Nany: works for immersive stories

[09:24] Frans Charming: Yes, there a definitely cases where it could be cool nanny.

[09:24] Jerry Buchko: @Nany, Yes. It would be cool if the HUD could be minimized & maxed on click or key command…

[09:24] Frans Charming: @jerry, that is possible to some extent to do.

[09:25] Jerry Buchko: Cool! πŸ˜€

[09:25] Nany: Jerry, there are good examples of that here in SL. Good game at Mad Pea uses that effect very well.

[09:25] Frans Charming: (rezzing bookmarker)

[09:26] Jerry Buchko: @Nany, Thanks for the pointer. Love to see examples of stuff like this.

[09:26] Frans Charming: You don’t necessarily need webhosting for small webpages for a HUD or a inworld screen. It is actually possible to host small and simple webpages inside second life. One of our clients wanted a way to store small lists of links inside SL. This virtual bookmarker here stores the urls and hosts the webpages inside the scripts in the prims.

[09:27] Frans Charming: We created four categories of items that you can select by clicking on the books, it will actually change the category showed for everyone, but you can also browse and click links within the page, which will be just locally for you. It was intended for a small office space, and I’m not sure what will have happen if we all start clicking the books. πŸ˜›

[09:27] Orange Planer: Holy mackerel, that is one long URL!

[09:27] Frans Charming: That’s the trick Orange, the url is the actual part of the content.

[09:28] Frans Charming: You can describe html inside the url.

[09:28] Frans Charming: Btw you might ahve to click the screen to see the webpage.

[09:28] Virtual Bookmarks (0.9.6) (NPC): Right click this link to open it in your external browser: 

 http://www.techsoup.org/stock/download/TSSQualForm_US.pdf

[09:28] Jerry Buchko: It worked πŸ™‚

[09:28] Frans Charming: As you can see the books actually move and open when you click.

[09:29] CarmenLittleFawn: πŸ™‚ yes

[09:29] Frans Charming: And we made a special category for links to pdf, to open them outside sl

[09:29] CarmenLittleFawn: nice

[09:30] CarmenLittleFawn: impressive

[09:30] Frans Charming: But, to reiterate, is taht the small list pages, are hosted from inside SL.

[09:30] Virtual Bookmarks (0.9.6) (NPC): Right click this link to open it in your external browser: 

 http://www.techsoup.org/stock/download/TSSQualForm_US.pdf

[09:30] Nicki ClaryNicki Clary agrees with Carmen

[09:30] Orange Planer: I’m confused.

[09:31] Frans Charming: I’m not able to give you all access to add content, but it possible to add new content. and remove it too.

[09:31] Orange Planer: The HTML displayed is a set of links elsewhere on the Internet, or links in SL?

[09:31] Frans Charming: The link go to content to outside of SL.

[09:31] CarmenLittleFawn: nods ok

[09:31] Frans Charming: The page itself is hosted from SL.

[09:31] Praxis: does it matter what view is used to enable all that is shown, plz?

[09:32] Orange Planer: OK, so the page is hosted from the text in the URL of the prim.

[09:32] Orange Planer: It just needs to be formatted correctly to work, yes?

[09:32] CarmenLittleFawn: good ? Praxis

[09:32] Frans Charming: What do you mean with View, Praxis?

[09:33] Praxis: oppps, typonese stepped up, it should read viewer, sorry

[09:33] Frans Charming: Orange I can answer it more fully later.

[09:33] Frans Charming: This webserver in a prim not totally my own creation as it works with Void Singer’s Teacup LSL webserver. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Teacup

[09:33] Orange Planer: I would LOVE to have a discussion with you about it. Hit me up anytime.

[09:33] Frans Charming: Lastly I want to show and talk about the new teleport function. Often we have wanted to teleport in a group automatically for tours, or provide a HUD that give a list of teleports in a sim or for large events. And we ended up having to type a slurl in chat, or get several popups or the worldmap that opens to teleport. With TeleportAgent function in SL, we can give any object we own/attachment the right to teleport us.

[09:33] Frans Charming: What this means is that for instance we can create a HUD/attachment that has to ask only once for teleport permission and then is able to teleport you with a simple click on a location on the HUD, or by some other input. A tourguide could for instance give these objects and have people be teleported on his command, by a script that interfaces with the scripts in the objects.

[09:33] CarmenLittleFawn: ohter views, like phonenix, or Singularity not ever body use sl viewers

[09:34] CarmenLittleFawn: otheR*

[09:34] Frans Charming: (Rezzing item)

[09:34] Gentle Heron: Frans, that also sounds useful for helping people who have difficulty maneuvering in SL because of poor or nonexistent keyboarding and mousing.

[09:35] Frans Charming: Caveat, this teleport function doesn’t work with a temporary attachment, so when you click the Box on my side it will actually give you a hud that have to wear from your inventory. Once you attach the HUD you will get a popup asking permission to teleport. If you confirm, you can use the HUD to teleport between the Vesuvius Sim and this Sim. (watches everyone disappear :P)

[09:35] CarmenLittleFawn: Very nice

[09:35] Frans Charming: Yes gentle.

[09:35] Frans Charming: This can be used for instance for roleplay too. You could design a area where people have to wear this, and when they bump into a door, they will be teleported to another room. SciFi role players actually use this so they can walk in the Stargates or Teleporters to automatically be teleported.

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: try to hold off on testing it and teleporting away

[09:35] Buffy Beale: lol Rhi

[09:36] Frans Charming: hah.

[09:36] Gentle Heron: talking to an empty room here, Rhiannon

[09:36] Frans Charming: I’m at the end.

[09:36] Frans Charming: So questions.

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes we can do some quick questions… will you be around after too for any deeper ones?

[09:36] CarmenLittleFawn: the ? about other viewers pls

[09:36] Frans Charming: Yes I will stay here for more questions

[09:37] Frans Charming: Carmen all this what I showed is based on server code, so it works with other Viewers too. And most 3rd Party viewers have Web on a Prim.

[09:37] Kayleeen: ciao

[09:37] Jerry Buchko: lol, very cool πŸ™‚

[09:37] CarmenLittleFawn: πŸ™‚ ty

[09:37] CarmenLittleFawn: very nice

[09:38] Buffy Beale: QUESTION: Frans I love the twitter garden but will it affect the sim here if it’s used by a lot of offices?

[09:38] Kayleeen: good afternoon

[09:39] CarmenLittleFawn: waves kay

[09:39] Buffy Beale: or maybe we could just put out one for NPSL

[09:39] Frans Charming: Well it is a scripted things so lots of it will have some effect. But it could be negated, by slowing the updates down when the sim is going slower.

[09:39] Orange Planer: Let me check stats.

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I think In Kenzo had Frans put out the twitter garden in the past for events

[09:39] Buffy Beale: ok thanks it seems a fun way to bring in more content

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets thank Frans for speaking to us today!

[09:40] CarmenLittleFawn: clapping, clapping ty very much Frans

[09:40] Nicki Clary: Thanks so much!

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Frans!

[09:40] Gentle Heron: Frans, this was wonderful! I have lots of new ideas of ways to use these tools in my community. Thank your for sharing.

[09:40] Coughran Mayo: Very Useful Info!

[09:40] Xandi Mars: ty

[09:40] Frans Charming: I know it was a lot to take in, so feel free to im me later or stay after to ask questions.

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: He helps us all become more bright!

[09:40] Buffy Beale: great going Frans thanks a lot!

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes thank you

[09:40] Frans Charming: πŸ˜€

[09:40] Delia Lake: ty Frans. this was great!

[09:41] Nicki ClaryNicki Clary applauds

[09:41] Jerry Buchko: Yes, very cool! Some very creative ideas πŸ™‚

[09:41] Orange Planer: Considering there’s 38 of us here today… there is some lag, but it’s not bad. There’s ~.125 ms spare time on the region and script time is running anywhere form 9 to 14 ms.

[09:41] Pathfinder Lester: nicely done

[09:41] Frans Charming: Glad you appreciate it. πŸ˜€

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: Not just with LED lights, I still have mine from SLCC you gave me!

[09:41] Praxis: YES, VERY INFORMATIVE *CLAPS*

 

 

— OPEN MIC & ANNOUNCEMENTS —

 

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Now, it’s time for Open Mic

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Does anyone have any announcements today?

[09:41] Brena BenoirBrena Benoir raises hand

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I wanted to also say – while we have a good crowd here… I will be sending out emails to those who have offices here on the new Memo of Understanding

[09:42] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if you want a heads up prior to that, the new Memo is up at http://npsl.wiki.techsoup.org/How+to+Become+a+NPC+Member

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: also if you are interested in becoming a member here at NPC – have a look

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: OK, Brena πŸ™‚

[09:43] Brena Benoir: NPC Halloween Party at Wharf Ratz on October 30 from 7-9pm SLT

[09:43] Buffy Beale: hand up Rhi

[09:43] Brena Benoir: Also Thanks to all those who came out to support Common Ground Monethly Networking last evening.

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes thanks everyone on that

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok, Buffy

[09:44] Buffy Beale: I don’t know if it was mentioned last week, but I recently found out that DJ Earnshaw has passed away

[09:44] Buffy Beale: DJ was one of our mentors here and was so helpful for many

[09:45] Nany: Good guy

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, great guy!

[09:45] Buffy Beale: he did a lot of the scripting and helped me so much when we were making the teleport systems

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, am still looking for any thoughts/comments on DJ so we can post a tribute on our NPC blog

[09:45] Gentle Heron: He definitely will be missed in many places in SL

[09:45] Ozma Malibu: yes, he loved to help

[09:45] Buffy Beale: I’ll miss his amazing talent and his special presentation tools he made for us

[09:46] CarmenLittleFawn: πŸ™‚

[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if others have thoughts.. feel free to share now.. will paste these to that post… or IM me if you are more comfortable

[09:46] Buffy Beale: I was wondering what had happened to him because I noticed he wasn’t coming and he was a regular, and I’m very sorry the sad news

[09:47] Buffy Beale: thoughts to his family and know that he contributed much to the NPC

[09:47] Buffy Beale: he will be missed.

[09:47] Buffy Beale: thanks, that’s it

[09:47] Praxis: cANCER IS DIFFICULT FOR ALL TO DEAL WITH

[09:47] JoJa Dhara: Sigh so true

[09:47] Orange PlanerOrange Planer notes obvious undiscovered capslock issue

[09:47] CarmenLittleFawn: it surely is

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[09:48] Dancers Yao: yes it is

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Buffy on that

[09:48] Ozma Malibu: I knew he had health issues but he didn’t let that slow him down here, just explained that he couldn’t travel

[09:48] Buffy Beale: you’re welcome, I’ll really miss him, he was brilliant and could script like nobody I know

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: πŸ™‚

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: anyone else have any announcements

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: if not we can close things up for this week – next week Pathfinder (John Lester) will be presenting

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

 

 -Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

 – Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

 – Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

 – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

 – Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

 – Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

 – http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

 

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

 

 – http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

 – http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks everyone and see you next week!

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Jeroen Frans: “Tools for Virtual Engagement” for the October 19th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 19th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Jeroen Frans, Frans Charming in Second Life, who will speak to us about tools for engagement in Second Life and focus specifically on the newer possibilities that are available, such as web integration, temporary attachments and teleport agent. 

Jeroen is a creative producer, virtual world technologist, and co-founder and CEO of the Vesuvius Group, LLC. As a futurist, he is always looking forward to how innovative technology can be used and enhanced. This drives him to try his hand in many technologies, and his early adoption has resulted in a wide skill set in programing, 3D, Web and game design, machinima and animation.

About The Vesuvius Group, LLC

The Vesuvius Group is a Full Service Solution provider for companies and institutions who desire to develop a presence or immersive experience in virtual worlds, social and game environments, with expertise in the virtual world platforms Second Life and OpenSim. The Vesuvius Group’s mission it is to support institutions and companies that are engaging in projects that make a difference in their member communities and the larger world.

 

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 5th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

http://bit.ly/NPCinSL 

 

AGENDA

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Jeroen Frans (Frans Charming in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

 

http://nonprofitcommons.org

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of October 12th meeting – featuring JoJa Dhara

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting
October 5, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST
Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater
 
[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great to see everyone today πŸ™‚
[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and Welcome to this week’s NonProfit Commons Weekly Meeting!
[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team
[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:
 
  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central – 
  • 8:55 am JoJa Dhara: “Walking Through Virtual Worlds: Connecting Virtuality with Reality”
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements
 
[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting.
[08:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:
 
 – Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org
 – Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com
 – Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl
 – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons
 – Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life
 – Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh
 – http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons
 
About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
 
 – http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp
 – http://flavors.me/techsoup
 
— INTRODUCTIONS —
[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: So let’s start off with Introductions!
[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.
[08:35] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, http://www.thelovefoundation.com @lovefoundation
[08:35] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. http://www.sequimartsalliance.org http://www.facebook.com/sequimartsalliance @renneemiko
[08:35] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL; Social Research Foundation, New York, NY http://www.socialresearchfoundation.org/
[08:35] CarynTopia Silvercloud: Caryn Heilman of Topia Arts Center in NW, MA in the Berkshires aglow with fall leaves, www.TopiaArts.org, @TopiaArtsCenter
[08:35] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore MD, protectyourself1.org, facebook.com?PY1US, @PY1US
[08:35] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Jerry Buchko, MA AFC | Counselor, Coach, & Tutor of Personal Finance in Private Practice | http://www.linkedin.com/jerrybuchko | @jerrybuchko
[08:36] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, Missouri, www.pfh.org, @brenabenoir
[08:36] Adalace Jewell: @AdalaceRoSa Library Brussels – Belgium http://www.rosadoc.be
[08:36] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. www.virtualability.org
[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Inc Los Angeles, Ca Health Care and Human Rights www.eldervoices.net
[08:36] Par (parhelion.palou): Horatio Fogbottom, generic volunteer, north of Baltimore MD, no website or twitter
[08:36] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup, www.techsoup.org, San Francisco, CA USA
[08:36] Ellie Brewster: Sharon Collingwood, Department of Women’s Studies, Ohio State University http://www.elliebrewster.com
[08:36] Carla Broek: Carla, Belgium, Virtual Ability
[08:36] Svea Morane: Brian Kaihoi, Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN, http://www.mayoclnic.org
[08:36] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, tech outreach to people who wouldn’t otherwise have technology, Arizona, Mexico and On the Road
[08:36] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF Ca. @TechSoup, @alebez,
[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Community Manager for NonProfit Commons, creative & edu-tech, Boston MA, http://joycebettencourt.com, http://twitter.com/RhiannonSL
[08:37] Veri Oddfellow: Brad Lewis, Great Strides – Healing with Horses, Maryland, US. http://www.GreatStrides.org
[08:37] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH, http://www.tavausa.org, http://www.facebook.com/#!/TAVAUS
[08:37] Claudia LAmoreaux: Claudia L’Amoreaux, Future of Learning Consultant, Participatory Designer, @ClaudiaInWorld, Natoma Group, Bay Area, NorCal.
[08:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements?
[08:38] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): Professor Carl Icann, Rockcliffe University, I hosted author J.L. Morin this week for a book talk in SL. Her epic book Trading Dreams is free on Amazon’s Kindle edition today through Sunday http://tiny.cc/1cswlw – Book discussion tomorrow at 7am SLT – I list all progressive events on http://INTEROCCUPY.net/ovw17 calendar carlicann@gmail.com
[08:38] bulaklak: Hi, Claudia! Good to see you.
[08:38] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC, St. Louis MO @Coughran @Innovaision
 
TECHSOUP ANNOUNCEMENTS
[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks – let’s move on to TechSoup Announcements.
[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And if you just joined us, feel free to announce yourself as we go πŸ™‚
[08:40] bulaklak: Happy Friday, folks! Great to see everyone.
[08:40] Chayenn: good morning Bulaklak
[08:40] bulaklak: Hi, Chay!
[08:40] bulaklak: Just a few things today.
[08:41] bulaklak: As you probably know, TechSoup is a global nonprofit with partners in many countries.
[08:41] bulaklak: We’ve just recently added a new partner in Austria and we are excited to welcome them.
[08:42] bulaklak: Through our German partner Stifter-helfen.de and a partnership with Fundraising Verband, we will now be offering software to Austrian NGOs
[08:42] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Very cool πŸ™‚
[08:43] bulaklak: More about that here: http://bit.ly/T9utFe
[08:43] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Super
[08:44] bulaklak: And speaking of our global partners, our partners in Romania are excited to be launching a second round of its ReStart Campaign
[08:44] bulaklak: the ReStart Romania campaign addresses government corruption by opening a challenge to the community to create projects to address what they see as the most pressing issues
[08:44] Veri Oddfellow: Does that make it ReReStart?
[08:44] bulaklak: Lol
[08:44] bulaklak: yes
[08:45] bulaklak: ReReStart RoRoMania
[08:45] Veri Oddfellow: *grins*
[08:45] Coughran Mayo: ReReRoStart
[08:45] Veri Oddfellow: Oooo … I hear a dance tune coming outta that. *chuckles*
[08:45] Orange Planer: Already exists.
[08:45] Claudia LAmoreaux
[08:45] Orange Planer: A little three-part tune called (wait for it….)
[08:46] Orange Planer: Row Row Row Your Boat.
[08:46] bulaklak: this year it has expanded to include the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and next spring will launch in the Balkans
[08:46] bulaklak: our co-CEO Daniel Ben-Horin wrote a piece in the Huffington Post reflecting on one winner from last year’s challenge
[08:46] bulaklak: you can read that here
[08:46] bulaklak: http://huff.to/OlYEMm
[08:47] bulaklak: Please feel free to comment there if it strikes you. It’s a pretty cool story as the winner was a non-techie, non-hacker who just happened to be very passionate about one issue
[08:47] bulaklak: I think it’s pretty inspiring!
[08:47] bulaklak: And that’s all I’ve got for today.
[08:47] bulaklak: Enjoy the meeting and have a great weekend!
[08:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks bulaklad!
[08:48] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Thanks bulaklak
 
 
— MENTOR’S CENTRAL —
[08:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Next up we have Mentor’s Central!
[08:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Jen speaking to us – welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.!
[08:49] Gentle Heron: YAY Jen!
[08:49] Jen (jenelle.levenque): setnote 1
[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Rah Jen!
[08:49] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Hi everyone
[08:49] Veri Oddfellow: *wave*
[08:49] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Today I want to talk about the tool box you can get from Techsoup
[08:50] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Now everyone knows how shy I am about speaking up
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Created 120718  Revised 121008
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Nonprofit Commons Mentor’s Corner
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: by Jenelle Levenque
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Transgender American Veterans Association (TAVA)
[08:50] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Hey Jen πŸ™‚
[08:50] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: How many of you know who stops by your office and how many when it isn’t tended?
[08:50] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Do any of you know who stops by?
[08:50] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Do you keep track?
[08:50] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yup πŸ™‚
[08:51] Gentle Heron: On our islands, yes.
[08:51] Jen (jenelle.levenque): good for you Jerry
[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: How many of you can give your board some statistics about your impact in SL?
[08:51] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Thanks. It’s a great tool πŸ™‚
[08:51] Jen (jenelle.levenque): This is something that got me to spring some dollars from my board to support us here in SL
[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: For those of you who don’t already use it, I’m going to introduce you to a tool in the NPC – Tools in a Box.
[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: A. Purpose
[08:51] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     To introduce you to a useful tool the “NPC – Visitor Counter with email function” The description states it “Detects avatars and keeps time.
[08:52] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I know this tool is used here to record who attends the meetings here
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: B. Functions of the Visitor Counter
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     1) Detect an avatar within a range set by the owner.
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     2) Check for avatar presence on a time interval set by owner.
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     3) Record the name of the avatar and the time, SLT.
[08:52] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     4) Record the name only one time. If an avatar leaves and returns, the name is recorded one time.
[08:53] Jen (jenelle.levenque): So each name is a unique AV for that day
[08:53] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Even if they come by several times, they are only recorded once
[08:53] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     5) Maintain the “name” of the location.
[08:53] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I have several locations so I use it elsewhere
[08:54] Jen (jenelle.levenque): This allows me to see which location people are coming to
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     6) Send the list to an email address at an appropriate interval. When list is emailed, the list will be reset.
[08:54] Jen (jenelle.levenque): This is pretty cool as the list can show up in your email
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: C. Commands
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     1) “say list”
[08:54] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) If you are in chat range, the script will say the list to local chat. This will let you see who has been in your office.
[08:54] Jen (jenelle.levenque): It only seems to listen at chat range
[08:55] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I’ve tried shouting and it ignored me
[08:55] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Kinda like kids
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     2) “reset list”
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) clears the list and starts over.
[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     3) “email list”
[08:55] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) to send the list via email and clear the list.
[08:55] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): πŸ˜‰
[08:55] Jen (jenelle.levenque): The email can go on schedule, say once an hour or once a day
[08:55] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Or you can force it to send the email
[08:56] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Or you can just skip this function totally
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) The email address must be in the script.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     4) “help”
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) will give you a list of the commands.
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) Only the owner may use the Counter commands.
[08:56] Jen (jenelle.levenque): It’s picky about who it gives the list to
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: D. Notes
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     1) Remember it searches a radius
[08:56] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) The office may have “blind spots” such as the corners of the office since the tool searches a circular pattern.
[08:57] Orange Planer: Make a circular office.
[08:57] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Since it uses a radius, configurable in the script, it actually searches a sphere
[08:57] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Yep that’ll work Orange
[08:57] Carla Broek: make a sphere office:)
[08:57] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) may record avatars outside your office.
[08:57] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): I like spherical office spaces πŸ™‚
[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: not enough spherical offices in the world πŸ™‚
[08:57] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Depending on the radius you could pick up passers by
[08:58] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I’ll have to try that
[08:58] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     2) There are other tools that may provide this functionality, but this one is first, free.
[08:58] Orange Planer: Great for my dating scene.
[08:58] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     3) The script is full perms so you can modify it to suit yourself.
[08:58] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) You will have to edit the script to provide the necessary configuration information.
[08:58] Jen (jenelle.levenque): If you do tinker with the functionality, please let us know
[08:58] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) Should you modify the script, please share with your neighbors at Nonprofit Commons.
[08:58] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     4) I use it to record the names of people who come by the office.
[08:59] Jen (jenelle.levenque): It also records my volunteers when they show up
[08:59] Jen (jenelle.levenque): In addition, it will provide the time
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) The owner’s name will not be recorded.
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     5) I look up the avatars
[08:59] Jen (jenelle.levenque): This is how I use it
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) I send them a personal IM thanking them for stopping by.
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) I give them our business card.
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         c) If the avatar is less than 60 days, I also offer to help them with their Second Life questions.
[08:59] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: E) Summary
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     1) Make a record of your visitors and contact those who come by while no one is in the office. 
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:     2) You will find other very useful tools in the tool box.
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         a) Take a look and find those that are useful to you,
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         b) Questions? Ask your local neighborhood mentor.
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         c) Share your thoughts and ideas with us.
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD:         d) More on other tools later.
[09:00] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Great idea; personalizes outreach… πŸ™‚
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Thank you
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: Any questions?
[09:00] Jenelle’s Presentation HUD: 
[09:00] Gentle Heron: If you like a tool in the ToolBox, please consider sharing about it as a future Mentor Corner presentation!
[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! We would love to have you present!
[09:01] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I’ll be doing a presentation on the presentation tools later
[09:01] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Thanks
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Jen! This was wonderful!
[09:01] Orange Planer thinks “Where’s my virtual screwdriver kit….”
[09:01] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!
[09:01] Gentle Heron: Thank you Jen for sharing about your use of the avatar counter tool
[09:01] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great stuff Jen!
[09:01] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Thanks Jen! πŸ™‚
[09:01] Andy Evans: Thanks!
[09:01] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Jen – Thanks for leading Mentors Central today!
[09:02] Tank Thibedeau (liltank.thibedeau): rah rah jen !!!!
[09:02] CarynTopia Silvercloud: if someone comes by once a day will they be recorded once a day?
[09:02] Jen (jenelle.levenque): There are some really neat tools
[09:02] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Yes
[09:02] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks for sharing
[09:02] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and..
[09:02] CarynTopia Silvercloud: thanks!
[09:02] Jen (jenelle.levenque): If they come by 4 times in a day, they will only show up on the list once
[09:02] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I’m averaging 5 people per day
 
— FEATURED PRESENTATION —
[09:02] Rhiannon Chatnoir: TIme for today’s featured presentation!
[09:02] CarynTopia Silvercloud: great
[09:02] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome Jolanda Mastenbroek-Dobberaka aka JoJa Dhara in Second Life, who will speak to us about her experiences in virtual worlds, including her latest explorations into the web based virtual world Cloud Party (www.cloudpartytime.com), the upcoming MetaMeets conference (www.metameets.com), and her thoughts on the future of the 3D internet.
[09:03] Rhiannon Chatnoir: come up and grab a seat JoJa
[09:03] Rhiannon Chatnoir: JoJa has been involved in community management within virtual worlds since 2006 and is a social media consultant and evangelist for virtual worlds in The Netherlands. She is a lead organizer of the yearly European conference MetaMeets about virtual worlds, augmented reality and the 3D internet. This year’s MetaMeets will take place November 30-December 1, 2012.
[09:03] Orange Planer: Where can I find the toolkit?
[09:03] Gentle Heron: YAY JoJa! Glad you could come today.
[09:03] JoJa Dhara: thankyou and thank you for having me here
[09:03] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Toolkit is in the Techsoup office right behind us
[09:03] JoJa Dhara: Gosh..if you sum it up..what have we done in all these years πŸ˜‰
[09:04] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I think # 5
[09:04] Rhiannon Chatnoir: feel free to start when your ready
[09:04] Orange Planer: Thanks, Jen.
[09:04] JoJa Dhara: Ok… Welcome everybody and thank you for joining..and sorry for my english as you noticed I come from the Netherlands.
[09:05] Gentle Heron: Your English far exceeds my Dutch!
[09:05] Carla Broek: yes:)
[09:05] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so true Gentle
[09:05] JoJa Dhara: I joined SL in 2006 and I became intrested in long run with the business side of Virtual worlds …
[09:05] JoJa Dhara: (thks
[09:06] JoJa Dhara: became a community manager for a project called Our Virtual Holland…
[09:06] JoJa Dhara: by the ING bank
[09:07] JoJa Dhara: from their I learned a lot.. first ofcourse to be a community manager in a virtual world for a company but als the power of connecting with you all … Avatars people from different countries and backgrounds
[09:07] JoJa Dhara: and the most wonderfull of course is how we all work together
[09:08] JoJa Dhara: that got my intrest ..and sorry I can still not build and totally a technical..but I started to follow the human side of using virtual worlds
[09:08] Gentle Heron: JoJa is like me!
[09:08] Carla Broek confirms.
[09:08] JoJa Dhara: As you can see on this slide pictures are there from Virtual Holland and also pictures from other part of Europe and the world that we connected.
[09:09] JoJa Dhara: it was fiberant years from 2007 and 2008 as we all know … but unfortunate the hype went down
[09:09] JoJa Dhara: and companies left
[09:09] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.
[09:09] JoJa Dhara: still in the Netherlands a core group was connected and I brought them together to question ourselves
[09:10] Polaris Grayson: much like ibm
[09:10] JoJa Dhara: does virtual worlds have a future
[09:10] JoJa Dhara: so true…
[09:11] JoJa Dhara: so therefore I arranged a meeting and it was great to see that still people from IBM and PHilipsdesign joine together with education and artists and content creators and users like you and me
[09:11] JoJa Dhara: and ofcourse conclusion was…there is always a hype curve now it is time to develop
[09:11] Gentle Heron: The hype curve always goes up, then down… it’s what comes after that is important.
[09:11] Claudia LAmoreaux: What year was this meeting you describe, JoJo?
[09:12] Claudia LAmoreaux: JoJa. Sorry
[09:12] JoJa Dhara: 2008 spring
[09:12] Claudia LAmoreaux: thnx
[09:12] JoJa Dhara: noworry
[09:12] JoJa Dhara: the only thing that bothered us a bit is what goes inworld stays inworld
[09:13] JoJa Dhara: and there for our mission was to set up a kind of a SLCC in europe… so we can show the world outside the uses of virtual worlds…
[09:13] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko) nods.
[09:13] Rhiannon Chatnoir: πŸ™‚
[09:13] JoJa Dhara: we got great help of the group that created SLCC *wink to Rhiannon πŸ˜‰
[09:14] JoJa Dhara: only we had to deside for an organisation that wanted to help us to broaden our views
[09:14] JoJa Dhara: in case that it is not only about se cond life
[09:14] Rhiannon Chatnoir smiles
[09:14] JoJa Dhara: so in 2009 we had our first MetaMeets
[09:15] JoJa Dhara: In here you see some pictuers of metameets but also the force to connect the realwordl with the virtual
[09:15] JoJa Dhara: in the netherlands we got more cross media events like Admire
[09:15] JoJa Dhara: musicians from secondlife comming together and jam
[09:15] JoJa Dhara: and give a concert in reallife
[09:16] JoJa Dhara: but streamed to secondlife
[09:16] Claudia LAmoreaux: love cross media events. +1
[09:16] JoJa Dhara: also the MMIF MaMachinima festival
[09:16] Orange Planer: That almost sounds like a wrestling federation.
[09:17] JoJa Dhara: also you see a picture of an event as a remembrance day where we televise the real event into secondlife
[09:17] JoJa Dhara: and we all virtually remember the second world war victims and from later wars unfortnate
[09:17] JoJa Dhara: but it is great to join together even dutch that are from around the world can be still part of it
[09:18] JoJa Dhara: so on and on we try our best to connect with the reallworld
[09:19] JoJa Dhara: on this picture is an avatar of franco grid… after exploring SL ..we want wondering aorund the OPen SIms.. and it is amazing no and also intresting for education to have a world on your own
[09:19] JoJa Dhara: specially as secondlife as much they are advanged still age issues are there
[09:20] JoJa Dhara: and it is great to see their developments.. therefore in 2010 we really picked that subject up….
[09:20] JoJa Dhara: to see how many worlds are developing..
[09:20] JoJa Dhara: dream ofcourse if we can hop from world to world….
[09:21] JoJa Dhara: which is hard with SL..but ok the 3d party viewers helped us a bit
[09:21] Gentle Heron: a lovely dream
[09:21] Polaris Grayson: it is possible
[09:21] Polaris Grayson: pathfinder was working on it with hypergrid
[09:22] JoJa Dhara: Now we notice if you go to the reall world and tell them the power of virtual worlds but it is still though for some to join and unfortunate intrest is starting to go down….
[09:22] JoJa Dhara: so it is hard these days to get peoples interest.. but thks to Mesh we now can push a new topic
[09:22] JoJa Dhara: we all know this little friend
[09:22] JoJa Dhara: Flufee
[09:23] Gentle Heron: Flufee the Mesh Ambassador
[09:23] Zinnia Zauber: Yay Flufee!
[09:23] JoJa Dhara: it is great that Flufee explains in a playfulway hwo mesh can be used..and therefor a newe area is starting
[09:23] JoJa Dhara: specially as you can see you can print out flufee
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: I got one now as he will be an example for the next MetaMeets
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: I hope with flufee he can bring the knowdledge that you can create out side second life
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: and upload here but in more worlds
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: and you can print him out in 3D
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: this willb e a new market …and great for content creatos
[09:24] JoJa Dhara: creators
[09:25] JoJa Dhara: another example I have is Patrick MOya ..a french artist
[09:25] JoJa Dhara: He is using 3d programs to create outside and put his art in different worlds
[09:25] Claudia LAmoreaux: the first 3D printed object I saw was Pathfinder’s avatar back some years ago. πŸ˜€ I like your thinking on this use case, JoJa.
[09:25] JoJa Dhara: you can find him in second life you can find him in open sim
[09:26] JoJa Dhara: and also now in Cloudparty
[09:26] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Wow, some really awesome possibilities for art in this… πŸ™‚
[09:26] JoJa Dhara: Yes indeed Claudia years ago there was a compnay that was printing out avatars..but unfortunate stops and fun to see it becomse now a topic
[09:27] JoJa Dhara: yes it is…and he created his avatar in sl as usb stick for instance
[09:27] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Would love a 3D print of some of the sculpture pieces I’ve experienced here…
[09:27] JoJa Dhara: and printed out some of his scluptures
[09:28] JoJa Dhara: In that case… this picture is an avatar in Cloudparty…a webgl based virtual world
[09:28] Claudia LAmoreaux: I think Jeroen is doing some 3D prints of his math sculputures. I’ve seen them on FB.
[09:28] Zinnia Zauber: I love being able to sell my virtual and physical apparel jointly!
[09:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I have seen some 3D printed originally virtual objects – great to see the virtual cross over to the physical world
[09:28] Polaris Grayson: would have been great for starax work
[09:28] Orange Planer: Mesh will definitely enable the printing of 3D objects.
[09:29] JoJa Dhara: @Polaris maybe hot news but someone is making a docu about starax…will be presented this year at MM
[09:29] JoJa Dhara: but true
[09:29] JoJa Dhara: Mesh gives a future
[09:29] JoJa Dhara: and with Cloudparty it makes a circle go round
[09:30] JoJa Dhara: Cloudparty they say will be the next sl but I dis agree
[09:30] JoJa Dhara: I see CP as a world that can show quickly to your friends what virtual worlds is about
[09:30] Polaris Grayson: nice ….hopefully they include his works as lightwaves
[09:30] JoJa Dhara: in case of Patrick Moya ..he created for a reallife exhibtion an area
[09:31] JoJa Dhara: so he knew how to hang his paintings in reallife
[09:31] JoJa Dhara: and that done in a day so amazing..and all he has to do is copy the url and give and you be directed ..without download going through long halls of tutor etc
[09:32] Claudia LAmoreaux: (Does anyone have landmark for Patrick Moya’s work in SL?)
[09:32] JoJa Dhara: so this can show quickly as I say .what yu have been done for years…in other worlds
[09:32] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): May I contribute something?
[09:33] JoJa Dhara: therefore it will be a mission and goal to explain how to create in MEsh and how you can market yourself further
[09:33] JoJa Dhara: with machinima … with content and a story line as Flufee
[09:33] JoJa Dhara: yes Carlicann
[09:33] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): There is yet another artist coalition doing a big event this fall… IMAB http://intergrid-metaverse-art-2012.hypergrid.org/ IMAB creators produced 4 RL books… also free online… amazing histories of SL and opensim artists… They’ve done multiple mixed reality events in Paris in RL …. I am involved through the new rock opera The Change as an actor/dancer…. They are in operation now through December… I suggest you collaborate with them
[09:34] JoJa Dhara: Thank you!!
[09:34] Carl Solutionary (carlicann): like cross list your events and vice versa
[09:34] Claudia LAmoreaux: Thanks, Carl. Good do know about.
[09:34] JoJa Dhara: definate
[09:35] JoJa Dhara: honest I hope we can continue like this and spread out more and show the outworld… how powerfull virtual worlds can be…and that will always be my mission..specially to see people grow in it… it is amazing…..
[09:36] JoJa Dhara: that is all i have to say..before I take hours and hours πŸ˜‰
[09:36] Xon Emoto: πŸ™‚
[09:36] Gentle Heron: (((JoJa)))
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[09:36] Carla Broek: wow this was an impressive presentation!!!
[09:36] Veri Oddfellow: /applause
[09:36] Claudia LAmoreaux: thank you Joja!
[09:36] Xon Emoto: Thank you!
[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thank you
[09:36] Svea Morane: Wonderful Joja. Thanks for sharing.
[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any questions for JoJa
[09:37] Carla Broek: how did SL change your life?
[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: Rah JoJa!
[09:37] Claudia LAmoreaux: wondering if joja or anyone else have landmark for Patrick Moya’s work in SL?
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[09:37] Claudia LAmoreaux: (likes Carla’s question)
[09:38] Gentle Heron: @Claudia- you can find it in SEARCH.
[09:38] JoJa Dhara: beside being hooked to it πŸ˜‰ ..it becomes a part of your communication and changed a lot… I mean my background is simpel and amazing who you meet and work with… and therefor say these word bring new workforce people
[09:38] Claudia LAmoreaux: duh. thank you.
[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: would love to see the answer to that question from all of us
[09:38] JoJa Dhara: @claudia let me look …
[09:38] JoJa Dhara: maybe i have it
[09:39] Carla Broek: Rhiannon: do you have a day or two spare time to tell this?
[09:39] Claudia LAmoreaux: Changed my life: helped me to be at home in the future. ;D
[09:39] Carla Broek: *to let me tell this? lol
[09:39] Gentle Heron laughs at Carla’s response
[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol – indeed
[09:39] Claudia LAmoreaux: (with lots of friends who are also at home in the future)
[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so let’s thank JoJa for speaking to us today
[09:40] Carla Broek: thank you JoJa:)))
[09:40] Claudia LAmoreaux: (future-maker friends)
[09:40] Orange Planer claps
[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:40] Veri Oddfellow: Thansk!
[09:40] Gentle Heron: Thank you for the inspiration, JoJa. Well done!
[09:40] Veri Oddfellow: *Thanks
[09:40] Claudia LAmoreaux: thanks to you Joja.
[09:40] jacmacaire Humby: Bravo!!
 
— OPEN MIC & ANNOUNCEMENTS —
[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Let’s move on to Open Mic & Announcements
[09:41] Opal Lei: Thank you, Joja.
[09:41] JoJa Dhara: your most welcome and thank you for having me here
[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Does anyone have any announcements today?
[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: I have one please!
[09:41] Svea Morane: a quick announcement
[09:41] Jerry Buchko (jerrybuchko): Yes, thank you Joja! πŸ˜€
[09:41] Brena Benoir raises hand
[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok Zinnia, then Svea, then Brena
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Get into the ORANGE and join us at CommonGround Networking Party on Thursday, October 18 at Nonprofit Commons 5 – 7 PM SLT!
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: You can even test out your Halloween costume if our theme color doesn’t suit you!
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Enjoy networking and dancing among other nonprofits and supporters! Learn more about what nonprofits, educators, humanitarians, scientists, and artists accomplish in Second Life at the Nonprofit Commons at this fun and informative event.
[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: Aloft Nonprofit Commons (82,48,25)
 
Please join us and thank you very much!
[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: We do discuss other virtual worlds as well!!
[09:43] Jen (jenelle.levenque): raises hand
[09:43] Svea Morane: Thank you….
[09:43] Svea Morane: Rabbi Harold Kushner will be live at the Mayo Clinic Conference Center on Tuesday, October 16, at 5pm PDT. Rabbi Kushner is the author of the 1981 best seller: When Bad Things Happen to Good People. The session Tuesday is open to the public. Rabbi Kushner will speak from his life experiences and from his latest book: The Book of Job: When Bad Things Happened to a Good Person.
[09:43] Svea Morane: All are welcome
[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great
[09:44] Brena Benoir: Halloween Party will be at Wharf Ratz October 30 from 7 to 9pm SLT with DJ lilTank
[09:44] Brena Benoir: thank you
[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: DJ lilTank!
[09:45] Jen (jenelle.levenque): raises hand
[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great
[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Jen
[09:45] Jen (jenelle.levenque): I am cochair of the Second Pride Foundation. If you are or know of any LGBT organizations in SL who can use a grant, have them contact us
[09:45] Orange Planer licks Jen’s extended hand
[09:46] Jen (jenelle.levenque): done
[09:46] Jen (jenelle.levenque) giggles at Orange
[09:46] Jen (jenelle.levenque): You tickle
[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks
[09:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements
[09:47] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Mentors meeting after this
[09:47] Par (parhelion.palou): (it’s not just for mentors)
[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I wanted to mention, for those that didnt see Zinnia’s announcement earlier in the week or me talking about it at the start of the meeting
[09:48] Jen (jenelle.levenque): Everyone can be a mentor
[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: DJ Earnshaw or you might have known him as Professor Viper, passed away in RL this Saturday
[09:48] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, thank you, Rhiannon. DJ was important to our community and many others.
[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: he was a long time member of the NonProfit Commons and also other edu / helper communities here in SL
[09:49] Ozma Malibu: sad- will miss him – knew he had health issues that precluded travel, but he was always in there helping people
[09:49] CarynTopia Silvercloud: sorry to hear
[09:49] Zinnia Zauber: He was one of our Mentors.
[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes
[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I am going to put together a blog post on this, so if you have thoughts on him, please send me a notecard or email me: studioh2o@gmail.com
[09:50] Jen (jenelle.levenque): That’s gonna leave a big hole
[09:50] Brena Benoir: I believe VWBPE maybe be hosting a memorial garden possibly. There is some posting on their facebook page
[09:50] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!
[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: they listed as Saturday having a memorial at the VWBPE garden
[09:51] Ozma Malibu: As with Bluewave, he demonstrated how someone who really wants to give can continue to do so for a long time in SL, even if it would be hard to do in RL
[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: you are all are also welcome to light a candle in my cathedral in Darkwood if you like
[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and.. the NPC community profile for DJ Earnshaw: http://npsl.wiki.techsoup.org/CMP_DJEarnshaw
[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for taking a moment to remember him.
[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: before we wrap up things for this week
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: Please join us for the Mentors meeting if you need help, want to help, or just want to hang out with some of the hippest cats on the grid.
[09:52] Zinnia Zauber: We will start at 10 AM SLT
[09:52] alebez: thank you all!
[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: oh and I have been taking lots of photos of the meeting and you all – so if you go to our facebook page please tag yourselves
[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:
 
Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org
 
 – Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com
 – Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl
 – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons
 – Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life
 – Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh
 – http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons
 
About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:
 
 – http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp
 – http://flavors.me/techsoup
 
Thanks everyone and see you next week!

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

JoJa Dhara: “Walking Through Virtual Worlds: Connecting Virtuality with Reality” for the October 12th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 12th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Jolanda Mastenbroek-Dobberaka, aka JoJa Dhara in Second Life, who will speak to us about her experiences in virtual worlds, including her latest explorations into the web based virtual world Cloud Party, and her thoughts on the future of the 3D internet.

JoJa has been involved in community management within virtual worlds since 2006 and is a social media consultant and evangelist for virtual worlds in The Netherlands. She is a lead organizer of the yearly European conference MetaMeets about virtual worlds, augmented reality and the 3D internet. This year’s MetaMeets will take place November 30-December 1, 2012.

www.jojadhara.com  

www.metameets.com

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 12th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

http://bit.ly/NPCinSL

AGENDA

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Jolanda Mastenbroek-Dobberaka (JoJa Dhara in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

http://nonprofitcommons.org

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of October 5th NPC Meeting – Featuring Jacques Macaire of HUMANBE

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

October 5, 2012, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

 

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this week’s Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting!

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central – 
  • 8:55 am Jacques Macaire (jacmacaire Humby in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: First a few links to start off the meeting. 

Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

  –  Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

  –  Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

  –  Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

  –  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

  –  Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

  –  Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

  –  http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

  –  http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

  –  http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

  —  INTRODUCTIONS —

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so hello everyone!

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lets start off with introductions

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.

[08:36] Ronnie Rhode: Denise Harrison, The Garden for the Missing, http://www.gardenforthemissing.org/ and SLURL Remora (203,148,21), Project Jason, assistance for families of the missing, http://www.projectjason.org.

[08:36] Jen: Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH, http://www.tavausa.org, http://www.facebook.com/#!/TAVAUS

[08:36] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA Health Care and Human Rights www.eldervoices.net

[08:36] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. www.virtualability.org

[08:36] Adalace Jewell: Corine Van Hellemnt, RoSa Library Brussels (Belgium). www.rosadoc.be @adalace

[08:36] Andy Evans: Andy Mallon, First Opinions Panel in SL; Social Research Foundation, New York, NY http://www.socialresearchfoundation.org/

[08:37] Svea Morane: Brian Kaihoi, Mayo Clinic, www.mayoclinic.org

[08:37] Amy Waverider: Virtual Ability

[08:37] Chad Mikado: Chad GobertNSIPwww.serviceandinclusion.org

[08:37] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, tech outreach in Arizona, Mexico and On the Road, @ozma

[08:37] Oronoque Westland: Roberta Kilkenny, Hunter College, City University of New York

[08:38] Carl Solutionary: Carl Icann, Occupy Virtual Worlds! We are launching the RL book TRADING DREAMS with author J.L. Morin “live” in SL on Wednesday Oct 10 from 1pm to 4pm SLT. Watch our website: http://INTEROCCUPY.net/ovw17 IM me with your email and we’ll comp you a free book today!

[08:38] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF, Ca @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:38] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, TechSoup Global, www.techsoup.org, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup, San Francisco, USA

[08:38] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, Boston, MA, Community Manager of NonProfit Commons, @RhiannonSL, http://joycebettencourt.com

[08:38] Lyssa AskJAN.org: Lyssa Rowan, Job Accommodation Network, http://AskJAN.org @JANatJAN

[08:38] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE http://www.humanbe.com France and International Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development @Humanbe

[08:38] Tank Thibedeau: Ricky Davis, San Antonio Texas and a SL wanderer, HIV/AIDS peer support and DJ soon to be colthing designer and learning mesh too

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other introductions

[08:39] Sarvana Haalan: Sally Cherry, MT(ASCP), Baltimore, MD , Consultant, http://Twitter.com/CHAREproject, http://CHAREproject.com

[08:39] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, Kirksville, MO www.pfh.org, @brenabenoir

[08:39] bulaklak: Hey, the website’s looking good, Jacques

 

  — TECHSOUP ANNOUNCEMENTS — 

[08:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Then next we have TechSoup Announcements – bulaklak

[08:40] bulaklak: Happy Friday, all!

[08:40] Larry Massey: Larry M,, I work on Internet technology and, lately, public policy around Internet use

[08:40] Sarvana Haalan: cool

[08:40] bulaklak: Some of you may remember last year we talked about the Restart Romania challenges

[08:40] bulaklak: Can I get a quick shout out for folks who remember that initiative?

[08:41] Gentle HeronGentle Heron remembers the name.

[08:41] Jen: Raises Hand

[08:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If you joined us late, please still introduce yourself

[08:41] Sam: rl calls, take care every1 πŸ™‚

[08:41] bulaklak: bye sam

[08:41] bulaklak: Okay, great.

[08:42] Oronoque WestlandOronoque Westland must have missed that meeting

[08:42] bulaklak: So these challenges were spearheaded by our partner TechSoup Romania with the idea of crowdourcing ideas to address corruption in the government there

[08:42] bulaklak: It wound up really having legs and generating quite a few interesting projects

[08:42] bulaklak: So this year we are launching round two

[08:43] bulaklak: with the support of the Central and Eastern European Trust for Civil Society, United States Embassies, Microsoft, and a variety of local donors, we are launching challenges in very much the same spirit in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Romania again, followed, next year by the Balkans.

[08:44] bulaklak: I’m really excited about the expansion of support and watching the idea spread and think some more excellent ideas will come out of this round

[08:44] bulaklak: Read more about it: http://bit.ly/Restart2

[08:45] bulaklak: And perhaps when it’s in full swing we can have Chris Worman from TechSoup Romania come talk to us about some of the neat ideas coming out of the challenge and some of the challenges they face in putting together the challenge

[08:45] bulaklak: that’s a lot of challenge

[08:45] bulaklak: At any rate, that’s what I’ve got for today! Looking forward to the meeting.

[08:45] bulaklak: Enjoy it and your weekends!

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks bulaklak!

 

  — MENTORS CENTRAL —  

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: now on to Mentors Corner

[08:46] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for Mentor Central we have Gentle Heron to speak on β€œHow to Stay Off the Endangered Species List.”. Let’s welcome her up and please start whenever your ready.!

[08:47] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot…. Gentle rocks!!!

[08:47] Oronoque Westland: our typists are at risk so listen carefully

[08:47] Chad Mikado: applause

[08:47] Gentle Heron: Good morning, and welcome to my little pep talk: β€œHow to Stay Off the Endangered Species List.”

[08:47] Gentle Heron: I also call this topic β€œHow to Not Let Your Idea Become Extinct.”

[08:47] Gentle Heron: I think we all know what the Endangered Species List is about. Animals, whole populations of animals, whose numbers are dwindling to the point that they may soon no longer be alive at all.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: You don’t want your idea, your passion, your business, to be on an Endangered Species List.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: Because we all know that if you’re on the Endangered Species list, you’ve already started down the tubes. And getting back OFF the list requires a LOT of effort. It’s best to stay off the list, if you can.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: So, three general rules for keeping your concept from becoming an endangered species:

[08:48] Gentle Heron: 1. Be the β€œBest in Breed.”

At the Westminster Kennel Club show, the dog chosen as β€œBest in Breed” is the one most photographed, most talked about, easiest for the general public to recall.

[08:48] Gentle Heron: Have you ever Googled the general category of your idea/business/passion? It’s eye opening. I Googled β€œabused children support” and got 96,100,000 hits.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: When people are looking for something using Google, how deep do they go? The first page, ten pages? Do you think entry number 96,099,995 on the list I generated gets much traffic?

[08:49] Sarvana Haalan: wow!!!

[08:49] Gentle Heron: It pays for you to be recognized at the top of the list. How to do that? Two ways.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: First is to acquire knowledge. Become an expert. Learn, learn, learn. Learn not only about your own field, but about related fields.

[08:49] Gentle Heron: (I know Sarvana knows this and does it well!)

[08:50] Gentle Heron: Learn the foundations, and some special tips and tricks. Learn who the established experts are. Explore the newest thinking, the cutting edge.

[08:50] Sarvana Haalan: Thanks…

[08:50] Gentle Heron: Second, disseminate what you learn. Be a resource to others. Share what you’ve discovered, the questions you are pondering, the books and articles you’ve read, the presentations you’ve attended.

[08:50] Gentle Heron: These are the two steps toward becoming the best and most recognized in your field. If your project supports abused children, you don’t want to be number 96,099,995 on a Google list.

[08:50] Gentle Heron: 2. Expand your niche.

It’s great to know your place. It’s comfortable there.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: If you are a green tree python, it’s a jungle tree.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: But this isn’t the time to hide, to stay in your comfort zone.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: (not sure I recommend airports though, like the python on the right)

[08:51] Gentle Heron: A bad economic environment is similar to an ecological environment in which resources are becoming limited. In both cases, competition increases for the dwindling resources.

[08:51] Gentle Heron: To survive, to prevent becoming endangered or extinct, get out of your niche and explore. There are more resources out there. Go out and find them and make them your own.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: You will be more visible outside your own niche. That’s a good thing. Now is not the time to hide.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: 3. Get a champion.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: Sure chimpanzees are cute, and we like seeing them in zoos. But wild chimps became a cause célèbre when Jane Goodall brought them to the public eye.

[08:52] Gentle Heron: Do the same for your cause.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: Build a support network. Become part of a community. Find someone who believes in what you do or plan to do.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: We all need someone to invest in our development, support our growth, publicize our progress and successes, and even cover our backs occasionally.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: Jane did that for chimpanzees in the wild. Who can do that for you and your work?

[08:53] Gentle Heron: And there you have it, three steps toward staying off the endangered species list:

[08:53] Gentle Heron: 1. Be the β€œBest in Breed.”

2. Expand your niche.

3. Get a champion.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: (done!)

[08:54] Sarvana Haalan: Wooot, wooot…. awesome presentation… very timely, Gentle. Thank you!!!!

[08:54] Buffy Beale: cheers! and whispers… Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, http://www.bridgesforwomen.ca @bridges4women

[08:54] Svea Morane: Excellent point Gentle

[08:54] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Thanks Gentle for leading Mentor Central today!

[08:54] jacmacaire Humby: Bravo!!

[08:54] Oronoque Westland: wonderful tips!

[08:54] Andy Evans: Excellent!

[08:54] bulaklak: Great tips!

[08:54] Tank Thibedeau: GENTLE !!!!

[08:54] Tank Thibedeau: hooo rah

[08:54] Ozma Malibu: Thank you Gentle!

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I love Gentle’s presentations πŸ™‚

[08:55] Buffy Beale: so do I!

[08:55] bulaklak: Finding the time to do more industry reading is one of the hardest ones for me, but I know it’s necessary! Thanks for the reminder, Gentle!

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[08:55] Carl Solutionary: Can I add something… ? 1. Teach a class… the teacher is instantly recognized as the expert… 2. Write an article… then use it as a marketing tool… 3. Use social networks avidly

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I like the teaching aspect

[08:56] Buffy Beale: good points as well Carl

[08:56] bulaklak: Teaching also forces you to know the material really, really well

[08:56] bulaklak: (And you learn from your students!)

[08:56] Gentle Heron: Another quick way to stay abreast is news summary sites such as: http://www.linkedin.com/today/se/editorspicks

[08:56] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and always amazing wisdom from Gentle – thanks

[08:57] Oronoque Westland: learning about RSS feeds really helps you keep up with your topic

 

  — FEATURED PRESENTER — 

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Time for today’s main speaker πŸ™‚

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome Jacques Macaire (jacmacaire Humby in SL), who will speak to us about the nonprofit HUMANBE he founded and the work HUMANBE has done in Second Life as a long-time member organization of the NonProfit Commons.

[08:57] Larry Massey: look up “Search Engine Optimization” (SEO); there are technical things you can do to make yourself noticed, used by most marketing organizations

[08:57] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Jacques – please come up and grab a seat in front – great

[08:58] Rhiannon Chatnoir: feel free to start when ready

[08:58] jacmacaire Humby: Thank you..

[08:58] jacmacaire Humby: Hi everyone,

[08:58] Buffy Beale: cheering for you jac!

[08:58] jacmacaire Humby: Before I begin, I would like to ask you due to the difficulty of language, and in case you want to ask me questions, if you could do it after my speech, or by email or IM..

[08:58] Gentle HeronGentle Heron waves encouragingly to Jacques.

[08:58] jacmacaire Humby: Thank you, it will be gentle.. I hope you don’t mind..

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: So.. Thank you for you invitation, and congratulation to the organizers for all the work they do to prepare each week this friday’s meeting..

[08:59] Jen: Yayy Jac

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: Thank you also to TechSoup, for allowing us to be present in the NPC and now in ECO COMMONS to experiment new solutions for a better world…

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: I want to thank, since a long time, also Dick and Corine who introduce me to the construction at our arrival, a few years ago,

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: and also the other like Gli, Zinnia, Buffy, Chayenn, Gentle, Busy, and many others that I probably forget, with whom we shared a wonderful time..

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: Without you, we would not have been able to experience what the virtuality could bring to an organization like ours…

[08:59] Coughran Mayo: πŸ™‚

[08:59] jacmacaire Humby: I’m happy to see that things are moving in the NPC, and I’m happy to make our modest contribution, hoping that it will be useful for the future..

[09:00] jacmacaire Humby: For those, who don’t know me, I’m Jacques Macaire, responsible of the ACTION TANK on Sustainable Development called HUMANBE..

[09:00] jacmacaire Humby: After having participated for over 20 years, to the growth of many design firms,

[09:00] jacmacaire Humby: I met in 1995, a group of friends in Paris to discuss opportunities to put the human at the center of our concerns..

[09:00] jacmacaire Humby: We then decided to take up the challenge by creating HUMANBE, which is a non-profit association,

[09:00] jacmacaire Humby: and borrowed as a symbol of our visual identity, the human, 

thus affirming our reference and our loyalty to humanity.

[09:01] jacmacaire Humby: So, as you know, we can no longer ignore this reality.. The world with the wonders that it contains is unfortunately not expandable..

[09:01] jacmacaire Humby: And to leave Earth to colonize Mars or other galaxies is not yet possible.. for now…

[09:02] jacmacaire Humby: So, we have no other choice than to So, we have no other choice than to do with this world and its limits.. 

This means that we need to start an inventory of what we have.. The system has reached its limits..

[09:02] jacmacaire Humby: So welcome to a world where we can help you to anticipate future developments and project yourself in the best possible future…

[09:02] jacmacaire Humby: Welcome to a world where we will imagine together, create together, and put the human at the heart of our concerns…

Welcome to a world where we’ll dream together about what the world will be tomorrow…

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: We lived in the myth of progress and growth during the last centuries.

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: It started with coal and fossil fuels that took a direction in which we should never have taken..

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: The two world wars, with the appearance of the aircraft and telecommunications, have accelerated the movement..

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: Then we glorified the culture of speed, the exact time, the travel, and finally the economic liberalism, has led us to relocate our industry, our agriculture, and even our services..

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: Today, our linear mode, ie the extraction, processing and disposal of raw materials has led to millions of businesses consume resources without replacing them.

[09:03] jacmacaire Humby: We take in a capital that we believe infinite and free, but in reality, we lived in the illusion of abundance..

[09:04] jacmacaire Humby: Profitability requirements, globalization and the law of the financial markets have led those who were still employed, to suffer a reduction in wages.

[09:04] jacmacaire Humby: A spiral that led to a real crisis of solidarity with the companies..

[09:04] jacmacaire Humby: Humans eventually become nothing more than a cost factor, whose value is determined by an exchange dominated by financiers

[09:04] jacmacaire Humby: who are trying to get rid of all social constraint in the name of competitiveness, and who have only a short-term vision.

[09:04] jacmacaire Humby: Everywhere, it’s clear that things are not going well, and that our industry is about to exhaust our planet.

[09:05] jacmacaire Humby: The Greed blinds our industry. It is urgent to realize that the overall cost of accidents exceed about 20 times the costs of prevention..

[09:05] jacmacaire Humby: A figure that should make us realize that it is urgent to completely change the method..

[09:05] jacmacaire Humby: A new vision of the world is about to be done..

[09:05] jacmacaire Humby: ll indicates that the time has come to change on many aspects, and to anchor our work in the long term, to develop a common vision for the future.

[09:06] jacmacaire Humby: The human arrived at a stage of its evolution, where the law of the strongest can no longer exist, because it generates so many human and ecological disasters, that it will eventually destroy us.

[09:06] jacmacaire Humby: It is true that the pressure for inaction, is still strong, and many skeptics see only a fad or a fashion.

[09:06] jacmacaire Humby: But Sustainability, is more than a fad..

[09:06] jacmacaire Humby: This is primarily a tool that provides answers which require us to make choices of companies, and especially by putting the people at the heart of our 3 main concerns : the economy, the society and the environment.

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: In all cases, if there is one thing on which we can be sure is that we can no longer afford to work on our own.

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: It is only together that we can change the world. It is time, therefore, to initiate a collective dynamics, by bringing together all those who wish to address the challenges.

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: The unite, this is the only possible choice…

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: The human must become the center of our concerns, and our most important to act quickly.

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: Climate change is the result of what we have not done to understand the other…

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: The way the world manages the human today has a direct effect on climate change for a large part of our humanity.

[09:07] jacmacaire Humby: It is not too late to change…

[09:08] jacmacaire Humby: The world lacks neither of financial resources nor of technological capabilities to ensure a better quality of life for all. It is only necessary to act now.

[09:08] jacmacaire Humby: The current financial system often determines the direction of our society, considering that the waste and the ephemeral are engines of growth, 

and more resistant to objects that can harm the consumer.

[09:08] jacmacaire Humby: They are wrong. Overconsumption causes not only environmental issues, but also social and economic…

[09:08] jacmacaire Humby: The world lacks neither the financial resources nor the technological capabilities to ensure a better quality of life.

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: This requires to start taking risks, even on projects that seem uncertain..

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: We need a burst of creativity and human ingenuity to avert this curse, that we are suffering..

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: We have no other choice than to rely on our ability to imagine new future.. 

Our future is not irreversible, and we can all affect it…

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: At HUMANBE, we strongly believe in the power of human imagination..

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: We believe that our future isn’t irreversible, and that we can all influence on it.

[09:09] jacmacaire Humby: So, we therefore begin to explore new ideas for the future of our humanity..

[09:10] jacmacaire Humby: and begin to see which was the most pressing problems,

[09:10] jacmacaire Humby: and have initiated several projects in the diffrent areas which seemed for us the most important :

[09:10] jacmacaire Humby: 1. HOUSING

2. TRANSPORTATION and VIRTUAL LIFE

3. CONSUMPTION AND ENERGY USED

4. CO-OPERATION AND UNION BETWEEN HUMAN

5. HUMANOPOLE (Eco-Village) with PY1 (Protect yourself)

[09:10] jacmacaire Humby: ETC…

[09:11] jacmacaire Humby: Today, we are going to explain 2 projects :

[09:11] jacmacaire Humby: 1. WHY TO BUILD A HOUSE WHICH RESISTS TO HURRICANES AND TSUNAMIS and HOW TO BUILD AN ECONOMIC, SOCIAL AND ECO-POSITIVE HOUSE THAT PRODUCES MORE ENERGY THAN IT CONSUMES?

[09:11] jacmacaire Humby: Here are the different links that will help you to understand our project, without disclosing confidential :

[09:11] jacmacaire Humby: http://www.changemakers.com/fr/node/98645

http://youtu.be/NRhtRcxDayc http://youtu.be/0_lTSe3XbXE

[09:12] jacmacaire Humby: Our ECO-POSITIVE HOUSE aims to produce a building self-sufficient in energy, which can be built at lower cost, and with carbon neutral.

[09:12] jacmacaire Humby: This unit of positive energy will show, while maintaining a modern comfort, that we can save our energy consumption to the point of being able to sell it…

[09:12] jacmacaire Humby: The cheapest energy is what we DON’T PAY..

[09:12] jacmacaire Humby: That is why before thinking about thermal comfort, the key is to build good habitat from the beginning, providing isolation of at least 40 centimeters,

[09:12] jacmacaire Humby: dual ventilation system and to take into account the orientation and sunshine. For our part, we use a renewable energy system based on solar and wind.

[09:13] jacmacaire Humby: HUMANBE designed this eco-unit building to make it totally flexible and can be installed on all types of soil.

[09:13] jacmacaire Humby: The advantage of this construction lies in the assembly on site.

[09:13] CarynTopia Silvercloud: I am so happy to see this information on building a house that generates more energy than it consumes

[09:13] jacmacaire Humby: This eco-construction unit will be entirely prefabricated and can be recycled, allowing rapid construction site, dust free and secure.

[09:13] jacmacaire Humby: The unit may be disassembled and the parts reusable, in order to limit the impact on the environment.

[09:13] jacmacaire Humby: Our goal is to demonstrate that it is possible to create a concept that will be :

[09:14] jacmacaire Humby: ENVIRONMENTAL through energy independence, and its design that takes into account the life cycle of products, manufacturing processes and materials used

[09:14] jacmacaire Humby: ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND COMFORTABLE with the possibility of selling her positive energy and insulation very well studied, and whose investment cost is very affordable (less than 2000 dollars/M2)

[09:14] jacmacaire Humby: SOCIALLY tailored to individual needs and accessible to first-time buyers, people with disabilities and low-income seniors.

[09:14] jacmacaire Humby: The implementation is simple, fast and without drying time, and reduces by half the time construction

[09:14] jacmacaire Humby: Steel has many advantages in the field of eco-construction ::

[09:15] jacmacaire Humby: It requires little maintenance and is effectively protected against corrosion

[09:15] jacmacaire Humby: It is recyclable, thanks to its magnetic qualities

[09:15] jacmacaire Humby: It uses less material and allows for very light structures with a large expanse of glass, while a high strength high strength against natural disasters..

[09:15] jacmacaire Humby: The construction sites are clean and dry (as opposed to the matrix so-called “wet”)

[09:16] jacmacaire Humby: THE SECOND PROJECT IS CONCERNING THE PROBLEM OF OUR CONSUMPTION TODAY.

[09:16] jacmacaire Humby: To understand what we are going to say, you could see the Video of “Story of Stuff” http://youtu.be/9GorqroigqM concerning the way our products are made

[09:16] jacmacaire Humby: Because we arrived at a stage in our evolution where we need to change the economic model, and lay a new foundation,

[09:16] jacmacaire Humby: and it is time to invent new forms of action to determine the economic, environmental and social consequences of what we buy.

[09:16] jacmacaire Humby: We all have the power to change the world, and the main mission of ECCOPLANET will help you to get there.

[09:17] jacmacaire Humby: We must realize that the power is in our hands. To the consumerism of today, we prefer the consom’action..

[09:17] jacmacaire Humby: The responsible consumption should compel recognition, showing that with our money, we want to take into account a Sustainable Development..

[09:17] jacmacaire Humby: ECCOPLANET’s mission is to inspire the world to meet the challenges and unite around practical solutions

[09:17] jacmacaire Humby: HUMANBE has the ambition to decipher the impact that products have on our daily lives,

[09:17] jacmacaire Humby: and act to promote an economic system that will benefit the entire human community,

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: offering an ECO-LABEL that will allow us to know exactly what you buy.. Out with the principle of current standards,

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: it will give a full and comprehensible information for all of the life cycle of the product or service.

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: The theory of change is simple.

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: The objective of ECCOPLANET is to highlight positive initiatives

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: and to make it public through the network in a manner enthusiastic, non-political and collective.

[09:18] jacmacaire Humby: Only signatories have the right to use the logo ECCOPLANET, so they can show their work and share their commitment.

[09:19] jacmacaire Humby: Those wishing to adopt must simply answer to 10 questions on 4 topics.

[09:19] jacmacaire Humby: They can do it gradually, with 3 levels, ranging from current activities to those who respect our principles..

[09:19] jacmacaire Humby: Awareness of belonging to the same planet is in the process of growing, and we are currently realize more and more on how interdependent we are..

[09:19] jacmacaire Humby: To create a more humane world is not science fiction.. Create a more humane world is not science fiction..

[09:19] jacmacaire Humby: Today there are solutions that can be implemented tomorrow..

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: We have many projects to start up..

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: We must move forward and become an example for future generations..

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: Everything depends on us, on our courage, our sense of responsibility and our ability to imagine the future…

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: We have the power to make life more beautiful and to make a wonderful adventure..

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: Then use that power, and unite to create a more humane world.

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: Advocate a more humane vision of our world and live our lives differently..

[09:20] jacmacaire Humby: Take part in projects that will protect human life..

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: Work together to become stewards of our Earth..

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: Changing the course of events and dream together of what will be the world of tomorrow..

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: CONCLUSION

[09:21] CarynTopia Silvercloud: very inspiring

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: HUMANBE have many projects in preparation,

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: πŸ™‚

[09:21] jacmacaire Humby: applying solutions innovating and significant to the problems of this world,

[09:22] jacmacaire Humby: like those which I show you today.

[09:22] jacmacaire Humby: We will be also happy to receive any assistance or financial support…

[09:22] jacmacaire Humby: HOW CAN YOU HELP US?

[09:22] jacmacaire Humby: As you, HUMANBE has big ambitions, but minimal resources, 

and we are therefore pleased to receive any support.

[09:22] jacmacaire Humby: The main things you can do are to :

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: – Help us spread the word

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: Feel free to IM jacmacaire humby for all the explanations which you will consider necessary

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: For now, our ACTION TANK is always internal, 

but we are going to organize future sessions in order to open the debate..

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: If someone wants to help us to organize this, don’t hesitate to contact us..

[09:23] Sarvana Haalan: powerful presentation… just posted your link on my FB page

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: Open to all suggestions, thank you again for your attention..

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: I hope to see you soon in real or in SECOND LIFE..

[09:23] jacmacaire Humby: Thanks Sarvana

[09:24] jacmacaire Humby: Don’t hesitate to come to see us at Eco Commons ECO Commons (94,119,69)

[09:24] Buffy Beale: cheering! great presentation Jac

[09:24] bulaklak: Great presentation!

[09:24] jacmacaire Humby: Have a nice day

[09:24] Ozma Malibu: Wow, Jacques, I have never heard you fully explain your work before – thank you. Amazing how passion and honesty and hard work can inspire.

[09:24] Gentle Heron: Thanks Jacques.

[09:24] bulaklak: And I love the website!

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great we have a few minutes for questions if anyone has any

[09:24] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire

jacmacaire@humanbe.com

http://www.humanbe.com

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=685847711

Second Life address : ECO Commons (94,119,69)

Second Life name : jacmacaire humby

Facebook address : https://www.facebook.com/pages/HUMANBE/20144392526

TWITTER : http://twitter.com/HumanbeΒ 

BLOG http://humanbe.tumblr.com/

PINTEREST http://pinterest.com/humanbe/

HUMANBE

Eolh – Espace 22 – Parc de Nanteuil – 5, rue de Rome

93561 Rosny sous Bois Cedex

France

Tel : 33 (0) 9 54 16 95 95

Fax : 33 (0) 1 48 94 35 72

Mob : 33 (0) 6 74 41 25 94

[09:24] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any questions for Jacques

[09:24] jacmacaire Humby: πŸ™‚

[09:25] Buffy Beale: Question: Jac, how does HUMANBE use Second Life?

[09:25] CarynTopia Silvercloud: It sounds like you have very carefully planned the cradle to cradle aspects of design, are you considering the nontoxic aspects as well?

[09:25] Dancers Yao: Thank you for caring about human rights…great work

[09:25] Gentle Heron: QUESTION- Jacques, how does HUMANBE use TechSoup resources?

[09:25] jacmacaire Humby: Yes it is part of one of the 4 point of ECCOPLANET

[09:26] jacmacaire Humby: We would like to go ore further with Second Life to improve the virtual aspect..

[09:26] Larry Massey: I’ve been enjoying https://class.coursera.org/sustain-2012-001/class/index a free online course on sustainability… the reading list and video lectures are great, and you don’t have to ‘enroll’ to enjoy them. The class has been going on for 6 weeks. No SL outpost that i see, though

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: there are some amazing Coursera and Udacity courses.. and that sounds like a good one

[09:27] Jen: QUESTION-Do you have a presence in any other countries?

[09:27] jacmacaire Humby: and to organize ECO COMMONS, if we could..

[09:27] jacmacaire Humby: virtual or real?

[09:28] jacmacaire Humby: conserning the presence..

[09:28] jacmacaire Humby: Jen?

[09:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: maybe speak to both

[09:28] Jen: Yes do you have an office in other countries?

[09:29] jacmacaire Humby: we are in France, but right now we are going to work closer with PY1 (Protect yourself) concerning a project of Eco-Community..

[09:29] jacmacaire Humby: First virtual and after in real..

[09:29] jacmacaire Humby: Eco-village using a meta money, per example..

[09:30] jacmacaire Humby: We are international, and Second Life helps us for that..

[09:31] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any last questions?

[09:31] jacmacaire Humby: We have no office.. We are working as teamwork when we make a project..

[09:31] Ozma Malibu: Here in Arizona we have Soleri’s Arcosanti project – I wish you could visit while he is still alive –

[09:32] Ozma Malibu: You’d like it, Jacques.

[09:32] jacmacaire Humby: Why not, if I come in US.. but I take care of my depense of CO2 with the travel..

[09:32] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets thank Jacques for speaking to us today!

[09:33] jacmacaire Humby: It is why where are also in Second Life..

[09:33] Andy Evans: Thanks.. a lot to think about

[09:33] Jen: ********APPPLLLAAAUUUSSSEEE********

[09:33] jacmacaire Humby: to use less CO2 for meetings..

[09:33] jacmacaire Humby: thank you all.. πŸ™‚

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[09:33] Jen: My last travel was on the train

[09:33] Buffy Beale: thanks Jac, what a wonderful thing you and your team are doing

[09:33] Gentle Heron: Thanks Jacques, your passion shows.

[09:33] Ozma Malibu: I have heard that after Soleri is gone, the project will be built out as he designed it, but with a golf course condos etc etc so visiting now would be better. The workshops last a week and are inexpensive and you help build. You could take a freighter?

[09:34] jacmacaire Humby: Come to visit us when you want..

 

  — OPEN MIC & ANNOUNCEMENTS — 

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes, thanks Jaqcques and lets move on to Open Mic / Announcements

[09:34] Rhiannon Chatnoir: anyone have any announcements for today?

[09:35] Marly: Remember the interdependent web of all existence so animals, plants, etc need to be part of the equation!

[09:35] Adalace Jewell: Yes, I have an announcement.

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great – go ahead Adalace

[09:35] Gentle Heron: I also have an announcement.

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: then Gentle

[09:35] Adalace Jewell: A colleague of mine at the Free University of Brussels is doing a research on emotions in Second Life. She really needs more residents to fill in the survey. Would you please be so kind to do so? It only takes 10 minutes.

[09:35] Adalace Jewell: https://sites.google.com/site/vubuasurvey/

[09:36] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir took the survey

[09:36] Chad Mikado: me too. it’s easy

[09:36] Adalace Jewell: thank you all πŸ™‚ My friend will appreciate

[09:36] Sarvana Haalan: Adalace, Counr me in

[09:36] Adalace Jewell: thx sarvana

[09:36] Sarvana Haalan: *count

[09:36] JenJen already completed it

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Gentle, next

[09:37] Gentle Heron: (sorry this is rather a long one)

[09:37] Gentle Heron: Announcing Agile Worlds 2012

Several of these virtual world business conference sessions are of general interest.

None of the sessions are in Second Life, however!

[09:37] Gentle Heron: FRI Oct 5- 5:30pm SLT

β€œAccelerating Global Teamwork with Lightweight Tools”- Joel Foner (TIBCO Spotfire)

Held in VenueGen

[09:37] Gentle Heron: SAT Oct 6- 7am SLT

β€œThe Uninitiated, Uninformed, and Unwashed: Training professionals to use virtual worlds as a service delivery tool”- Dick Dillon (SL: Coughran Mayo) (Innovaision)

Held in 3D-VirtualEvents

[09:37] Gentle Heron: YAY COUGHRAN!

[09:37] Gentle Heron: SAT Oct 6- 8:30am SLT

β€œDeveloping a Professional Image in a Virtual Community”- Valerie Hill and (SL) Zinnia Zauber

Held in 3D-VirtualEvents

[09:37] Gentle Heron: YAY ZINNIA AND VAL!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: SAT Oct 6- 10am SLT

β€œLocation Inconsequence”- Julie LeMoine (3d ICC)

Held in Terf

[09:38] Gentle Heron: SAT Oct 6- 11am SLT

β€œCollaboration Across Time Zones: The people skills”- Johanna Rothman (Rothman Consulting Group, Inc.)

Held in Terf

[09:38] Gentle Heron: That one might be useful for Jacques!

[09:38] Gentle Heron: SAT Oct 6- 12:30pm SLT

β€œWhere Did We Go Wrong? The role of culture in complex organizations”- Kevin Feenan (Knomaze Corp.)

Held in 3D-VirtualEvents

[09:38] Gentle Heron: The full schedule can be found here:

http://agileworlds2012.sched.org/ then click on colored links for each session.

[09:38] Gentle Heron: For help getting into the different virtual worlds, look here:

Distributed Agile Worlds Conference

[09:38] Gentle Heron: And if you can’t get into the various worlds, or don’t want to try, you can watch live on the web channel:

http://www.livestream.com/metaversetvbusiness

[09:38] Carl Solutionary: YAY KEVIN… he’s the founder of Rockcliffe University where I teach

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes

[09:39] Gentle Heron: (That’s all my resource sharing for today, unless someone wants to learn about Terms of Service and Community Standards. Session today at 1pm SLT)

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: where is that Gentle

[09:39] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability Island, the Cabana Classrooms

[09:39] Sarvana Haalan: great info… thanks!!!

[09:40] Carl Solutionary: I have an announcement’

[09:40] Carl Solutionary: We are launching the RL book TRADING DREAMS with author J.L. Morin “live” in SL on Wednesday Oct 10 from 1pm to 4pm SLT. Watch our website: http://INTEROCCUPY.net/ovw17 IM me with your email and we’ll comp you a free book today!

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Carl next

[09:40] Carl Solutionary: this is all

[09:40] Carl Solutionary: We are launching the RL book TRADING DREAMS with author J.L. Morin “live” in SL on Wednesday Oct 10 from 1pm to 4pm SLT. Watch our website: http://INTEROCCUPY.net/ovw17 IM me with your email and we’ll comp you a free book today!

[09:41] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok

[09:41] Sarvana Haalan: will th eevent be posted on your Fcebook page, Carl

[09:42] Carl Solutionary: yes… we have a FB site…

[09:42] Sarvana Haalan: Url, please

[09:42] Carl Solutionary: Occupy Virtual Worlds on FB https://www.facebook.com/groups/231407276985298/

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: also – anyone interested in the intersection of games and virtual worlds with education .. there is a new MOOC (massive online open course) starting this week on that – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?pli=1&formkey=dGViRlZfaUdUS…

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: I took part in the first one.. and quite a few other SL’ers.. good fun to get a guided chance to hop around to various virtual and game spaces together

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements?

[09:44] Sarvana Haalan: ok, yea… I have an announcement or a bit of info

[09:44] Rhiannon Chatnoir: go ahead

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Sarvana?

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: Checking out a newly discovered site, http://jux.com… for photo storytelling (Experiencing Baltimore) hope to highlight virtual world activities… another platform to share info

[09:47] Sarvana Haalan: it may be helpful to some folks

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod – yes it is a very visual/storytelling blog like site

[09:48] Andy Evans: I just clicked the link but didn’t work

[09:48] Gentle Heron: Remove the periods

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: http://jux.com

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: try that

[09:48] Gentle Heron: http://jux.com should do it

[09:49] Andy Evans: yep

[09:49] Andy Evans: duh

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: If there arent any other announcements, that will finish off this weeks meeting. Next week JoJa Dhara will be joining us, some of you might know her from organizing MetaMeets

[09:49] Sarvana Haalan: sorry… https://jux.com/

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

 

Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

 – Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

 – Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

 – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

 – Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

 – Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

 – http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

 

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

 – http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

 – http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

Thanks everyone and see you next week!

[09:50] Andy Evans: Great meeting, Rhiannon

[09:50] Sarvana Haalan: Great meeting… Missed the community.

[09:50] alebez: see you all. have a wonderful weekend. great meeting!

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and again, if you are interested, or know of anyone who might be in speaking at a future meeting… let me know

[09:50] Adalace Jewell: thank you for the meeting

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks all

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Nonprofit Commons Recap: Welcome Back Mayo Clinic

article by Alexandra Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup Global

It’s no surprise that the use of virtual worlds in industries like health care delivery and education are on the rise. Prominent institutions like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, the National Institutes of Health, and the Mayo Clinic have long entered the virtual arena and are increasingly looking for ways to innovate in virtual spaces.

In fact, Mayo Clinic’s mission to “inspire hope and contribute to health and well-being by providing the best care to every patient through integrated clinical practice, education and research” is echoed by providing facilities and services in Second Life.

Brian Kaihoi (Svea Morane in Second Life), recently visited the Nonprofit Commons to report on Mayo Clinic’s virtual world activities in the areas of patient care, research, education and administrative services. Brian has been with Mayo Clinic for 35 years as a member of the consulting staff. Most recently, Brian is the Mayo Foundation Web Administrator and Second Life advocate. Below are excerpts from his presentation on September 14.

Svea Morane: Innovation is a core principle at Mayo Clinic, in the science of healthcare, the delivery of treatment, and improving health and well-being. The fact that innovation is so central to our culture has made it easier to bring virtual worlds to our organization. I will still get some snickers about “virtual worlds” here at Mayo, but no outright rejection. We have had a lot of crazy ideas that worked over time, so you get a little latitude in talking with folks. Other organizations may not have that advantage.

When did Mayo Clinic’s involvement in Second Life start? 

Svea Morane: While individual Mayo Clinic staff have been personally involved in Second Life and other grids for several years, our official involvement, where we started to spend money, was in May 2009. We started with a couple people who had passion for it and promoted the idea internally. As the project has gained momentum, our presence has grown.

What has been the biggest challenge, or key success factors in bringing Second Life into the Mayo fold?

Svea Morane: The biggest challenges are surprisingly “cultural” not even “technical.” You have to encourage the adoption of Virtual Worlds through engagement with all parts of the organization.

Svea Morane: Some necessary success factors would be to stay persistent, work through existing relationships, help others get done what they want done, give lots of your own personal time, and finally, think like an entrepreneur.

Svea Morane: Internally, bringing Second Life to Mayo Clinic has been the result of lots of meetings, demonstrations, talking with colleagues, and picking good projects in visible areas. We have worked on projects in all parts of the organization.

How has Second Life enhanced your programs?

Svea Morane: Our initial work in Second Life has focused on experiments that support our core services in clinical care, education, research and administrative activities.

Svea Morane: Using SL for education has been an easy step for our folks to make, and has been working very well. Many groups in SL do this already. We have sessions that are private, public and some that require registration fees. 

Svea Morane: Presentations from our physicians are popular, and exciting for our staff to present. We have good success in having our physicians interact with colleagues in other countries without having to allow for all the travel time.

What’s in store for future innovation in Second Life?

Svea Morane: We are currently running experiments using SL for real patient care, but these are not in routine practice yet. This is the area of activity that has the greatest potential for Mayo Clinic, and where we will be pushing the hardest. 

Svea Morane: Other projects being developed include a virtual world international hospice, which would educate about hospice services as well as foster therapeutic interactions. We are also including “wellness activities” including preparing meals to eat together, and cognitive impairment therapy for traumatic brain injury.

Svea Morane: The success we have had in using Second Life to help our patients and support our organization’s goals is directly related to the relationships we have established in our physical world, and in this virtual world. It cannot be over-stressed how important it has been to collaborate and help others see the vision.

Svea Morane: The last point to make about our work in SL is the tremendous benefit of collaboration, and the willingness we have here to do that. There are great people with fabulous skills and a willingness to share for the greater good. We are deeply indebted to folks like Gentle Heron at Virtual Ability, Dave Taylor at the Imperial College, Panacea Luminos from New York Healthscape, Coughran Mayo with Preferred Family Health, and organizations that have have shown us ways to work.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Jacques Macaire of HUMANBE, on Sustainability, Humanity and His Work in Second Life for October 5th NonProfit Commons Meeting

This Friday, October 5th, Nonprofit Commons is happy to feature Jacques Macaire (jacmacaire Humby in SL), who will speak to us about the nonprofit HUMANBE he founded and the work HUMANBE has done in Second Life as a long-time member organization of the NonProfit Commons

About HUMANBE

Since it’s creation, HUMANBE’s mission is to change the individual and collective behavior of humans through the implementation of concrete and sustainable solutions. Recognized as an organization working to build a more humane society, HUMANBE makes real change by making every effort to build awareness of our interdependence.

http://www.humanbe.com/ 

 

Join us in Second Life!

Nonprofit Commons Weekly Meeting

Friday, October 5th, 8:30 AM SLT / PST

Plush Nonprofit Commons Amphitheater

http://bit.ly/NPCinSL 

 

AGENDA

  • 8:30 am Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Main Speaker: Jacques Macaire (jacmacaire Humby in SL)
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

 

http://nonprofitcommons.org

The mission of the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is to create a community for nonprofits to explore and learn about virtual worlds, foster connections, and discover the many ways in which nonprofits might utilize the unique environment of Second Life to achieve their missions.

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Transcript of September 28th NPC Meeting – Featuring Jayne Cravens of TechSoup

 

[08:24] Coughran Mayo: howdy

[08:28] bulaklak: I am curious if the Mentors Central has ever covered how to take awesome inworld pictures. I was comparing mine to Rhiannon’s last week and hers were 100x cooler than mine.

[08:28] Rhiannon Chatnoir: aww

[08:28] Gentle Heron: Thanks for the great topic idea, Bulaklak.

[08:29] Zinnia Zauber: They were very good. There are several factors indeed.

[08:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a lot has to do with SL settings … then you can maybe you can chock the rest of to composition/design

[08:29] Rhiannon Chatnoir: but settings can have a huge difference – definitely a good topic though!

[08:30] bulaklak: Thanks! Yeah I figured there must be some tricks and tips. I like how you were able to have the floating names and chat out of the shot.

[08:31] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ahh – that is a setting too πŸ™‚

[08:31] Gentle Heron: Depending on your viewer, that’s simply a setting once you push the camera button before you press SAVE

[08:31] Zinnia Zauber: Depending on your video card…

[08:31] bulaklak: Ah, cool. I’ve just been taking screen grabs. =)

[08:32] Gentle Heron: oh no WONDER Bulaklak. Use the inworld tools for photography.

[08:33] Zinnia Zauber: The amount of people in the shot can be a factor.

[08:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a SL photo workshop would be great

[08:34] Tava Longfall: Hi everyone, Jenelle crashed and can’t get back in so she asked me to sit in

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: I am waiting for volunteers.

[08:34] Gentle HeronGentle Heron waves to Tava.

[08:34] Zinnia Zauber: wow major chat lag there.

[08:35] Tava Longfall: Took a good 30+ seconds

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: is Susan coming today?

[08:35] bulaklak: no

[08:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks

[08:36] Buffy Beale: Buffy Bye, Bridges for Women, Victoria BC Canada, http://www.bridgesforwomen.ca @bridges4women

[08:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: OK lets start things off

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Welcome everyone to this weeks NonProfit Commons meeting!

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is sponsored by TechSoup Global and is a program of the TechSoup Global Community & Social Media team

[08:37] Buffy Beale: oooo sorry thought I was late πŸ™‚

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today’s Agenda:

 

  • 8:30 am Welcome & Introductions
  • 8:40 am TechSoup Announcements
  • 8:45 am Mentors Central
  • 8:55 am Jayne Cravens speaking on the TechSoup Forums
  • 9:30 am Open Mic / Announcements

 

 

First a few links to start off the meeting. 

 

Here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

 

Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

 

Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

 

Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

 

Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

 

Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

 

http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thats ok πŸ™‚

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

INTRODUCTIONS

 

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: So, morning – lets start with introductions

[08:37] HB Eternal: Harold W Becker, The Love Foundation, Florida, http://www.thelovefoundation.com @lovefoundation

[08:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Please state your real name, location, org, and the ways we can find you online.

[08:37] Chayenn: Monique Richert, Protect Yourself 1, Inc., Baltimore MD, protectyourself1.org , facebook.com/PY1US, @PY1US

[08:38] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett, Elder Voices, Los Angeles, CA Health Care and Human Rights www.eldervoices.net

[08:38] Tava Longfall: Bruce Hestley, Transgender American Veterans Association, Akron, OH, http://www.tavausa.org

[08:38] Coughran Mayo: Dick Dillon, Innovaision, LLC @Coughran @Innovaision St. Louis MO

[08:38] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. www.virtualability.org

[08:38] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington. http://www.sequimartsalliance.org http://www.facebook.com/sequimartsalliance @renneemiko

[08:38] Ozma Malibu: Sandra Andrews, Floaters Org – tech outreach in Arizona, Mexico and On the Road.

[08:38] Zotarah Shepherd: BEACH College, Santa Rosa, CA

[08:38] alebez: Ale Bezdikian, Online Community Coordinator, TechSoup, SF, Ca., @TechSoup, @alebez

[08:38] Adalace Jewell: Adalace, RoSa Library Brussels, http://www.rosadoc.be @adalace

[08:38] Coughran Mayo: On The Road! nice Ozma

[08:38] Tank Thibedeau: Ricky Davis, San Antonio, unempoyed, HIV/AIDS activist and DJ

[08:38] Atalanta Visage: Jen Siegel, National Service Inclusion Project, Boston, MA, www.serviceandinclusion.org

[08:39] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir is Joyce Bettencourt, online community manager of the NonProfit Commons, Boston, MA, http://joycebettencourt.com, @rhiannonSL

[08:39] jacmacaire Humby: Jacques Macaire HUMANBE http://www.humanbe.com Action Tank and Council on Sustainable Development France and International @Humanbe

[08:39] bulaklak: Michael DeLong, Senior Manager Online Community and Social Media, TechSoup Global, San Francisco, CA, USA, www.techsoup.org, @MichaelDeLongSF @TechSoup

[08:39] Zotarah ShepherdZotarah Shepherd is still visiting in Seattle

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Anyone else?

[08:40] Zinnia Zauber: We have lovely weather in Washington, don’t we?

 

TECH SOUP ANNOUNCEMENTS 

 

[08:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: OK – Lets move on to TechSOup Announcements

[08:40] Ozma Malibu: @Coughran yes Floaters isn’t picky about whether or not members have fixed addresses

[08:41] Zotarah Shepherd: Yes

[08:41] bulaklak: Okie doke! Hi, folks. We’re super excited to welcome Jayne Cravens today. First a few updates from TechSoup.

[08:42] bulaklak: You have a few days left to enter our Technology in Action photo contest. We’re asking folks to take a picture of what Technology in Action means to them. And this could be an inworld picture, of course! Or a collage or drawing or something you made in Photoshop. It’s open to all social benefit agents and orgs. There are four ways to enter: on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or by email.

[08:43] bulaklak: Details are here: http://bit.ly/TechInAction

[08:43] bulaklak: The deadline is 11:59 PT on September 30

[08:43] bulaklak: And the prize is pretty cool: a custom-made infographic by Karma Store that you can use to engage constituents online

[08:44] bulaklak: I also want to share some news that has pretty big ramifications for one of our projects, NGOsource, and for global giving in general.

[08:45] bulaklak: The IRS and Treasury are easing the burden on global giving, which was announced at the Clinton Global Initiative by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

[08:45] bulaklak: Please read more about that here

[08:45] Carl Solutionary: Carl Icann http://carlicann.wordpress.com For Rockcliffe U, Etopia, & Feed-A-Smile: At 8am slt every Sunday, I lead Humane Education Drum Circles – Now with Poetry! Founder of Occupy Virtual Worlds http://interoccupy.net/ovw17/calendar/

[08:45] bulaklak: http://bit.ly/NGOsourceNews

[08:46] bulaklak: Welcome, Carl.

[08:46] bulaklak: And that’s all I’ve got for today!

[08:46] bulaklak: Enjoy the meeting and have a great weekend.

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Bulaklak

 

MENTORS CENTRAL

 

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: on to Mentor’s Central!

[08:47] Zinnia Zauber: Today we have Coughran!

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Today for it, we have Coughran speaking to us

[08:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: πŸ™‚

[08:47] Zinnia Zauber: Rah!

[08:48] Gentle Heron: YAY Coughran.

[08:48] Buffy Beale: yay C!

[08:48] Coughran Mayo: Is that the intro?

[08:48] Coughran Mayo: sorta lame

[08:48] Buffy Beale: getting the drum roll ready

[08:48] Zinnia Zauber: Sorry, I should have just been chanting!

[08:48] Coughran Mayo: ha ha

[08:48] Ozma Malibu: rah!

[08:49] Zinnia Zauber: Coughran! Coughran! Coughran!

[08:49] Gentle Heron: You need no introduction.

[08:49] Buffy Beale: lol Z

[08:49] Gentle Heron: Just talk, Coughran.

[08:49] Coughran Mayo: anyway, I believe I am here to talk briefly on “Selling your VW plans in-house”

[08:49] Coughran Mayo: in 8 minutes

[08:49] Coughran Mayo: I mean I get 8 minutes to talk, your selling plan could take longer than that

[08:50] Coughran Mayo: In my discussions with many nonprofit representatives in SL, I hear a lot of similar issues that revolve around the acceptance of SL, or virtual worlds in general, as a legitimate tool or resource.

[08:50] Coughran Mayo: To begin with, it is not a general rule that the person using SL on behalf of a nonprofit is the executive director, or chief administrative officer (although that IS true in some cases).

[08:50] Coughran Mayo: More often, you have some other role with the organization – you might even be a volunteer – but you have recognized the potential for using virtual worlds to advance the mission of your nonprofit.

[08:50] Coughran Mayo: The question is, how do you get buy-in from the organization as a whole? There is a cost to SL participation. Even those of us whose groups have benefitted from the free space made available by TechSoup still have a time investment that needs to be considered. The most active NPC members may spend 10 or more hours a week inworld. It is nice If you can get credit for β€œworking” during those hours!

[08:50] Coughran Mayo: And, of course, if you want to have additional locations in SL, even your own β€œAgency Island”, there is an additional cash outlay to Linden Lab to be considered.

[08:51] Coughran Mayo: And, we all want to look good and dress sharp, so don’t forget the clothing budget.

[08:51] Coughran Mayo: So the key is, how do I demonstrate to my organization the validity and the value of a virtual world presence? I think there are a few things you can do to advance this concept and gain acceptance among your group leaders.

[08:51] Zinnia Zauber: Yah!

[08:51] Coughran Mayo: First, develop a library of resources that can be shared – articles, web blogs, videos, etc. If you have outside reporters who make the case that Second Life or other virtual worlds have a meaningful use in real life concerns, you can do a lot to offset the concept that β€œit’s just a game”. I have a well developed list that I would be happy to share with anyone who wants to drop me an email (dickd@innovaision.com)

[08:52] Coughran Mayo: If you gather a few good resources, share the best of them with the decision makers in your organization. And, always keep your eye out for new reports or documents to pass along. Like social media, a steady but not overwhelming stream of information does a lot to keep your issue on the front burner and to persuade others of the validity of your position.

[08:52] Coughran Mayo: Second, organize a tour of the virtual world. It doesn’t have to be lengthy, and it doesn’t even have to involve other people actually logging in (sometimes that creates more problems than it solves). You can arrange a meeting (real life) and have a projector connected to your computer so that participants can watch you take a tour of the NPC sims, for example, visiting your own space and the offices of others to show what is being done with nonprofits in the VW.

[08:52] Coughran Mayo: I like to ask other NPC friends to join me when I set something like this up, so that the onlookers can not only see what the virtual space looks like but they can also begin to get a feel for how the interactions between people/avatars actually works.

[08:53] Coughran Mayo: Zinnia, Gentle and others have helped me out more than once!

[08:53] Coughran Mayo: Third, think of ways to use the virtual world to demonstrate the value to your organization internally.

[08:53] Gentle Heron: awwww

[08:53] Coughran Mayo: When I was with Preferred Family Healthcare, we arranged meetings of staff members who were separated by hundreds of miles, saving the company a lot of mileage dollars. We even did virtual job interviews with candidates from distant locations who might not have been able to meet with us had they needed to travel a long distance just for an initial interview. I know PFH hired at least one person from this activity.

[08:53] Coughran Mayo: Finally, keep your eye out for funding from grantmakers and foundations, that your organization might be able to apply for. This (virtual anything!) is a hot topic these days. If you can secure outside funding to advance the work you or your organization does, that’s a lock!

[08:54] Coughran Mayo: Put these ideas together and you can do a lot to infuluence your organization to continue to support or even expand your work in SL.

[08:55] Coughran Mayo: You CAN get paid to play!

[08:55] Hour Destiny: And try to attend conferences on virtual worlds, especially those with a focus on your area of employment?

[08:55] Gentle Heron: oohhhhhh

[08:55] Coughran Mayo: Ha, and two minutes left for questions!

[08:55] Coughran Mayo: πŸ™‚

[08:55] Buffy Beale: you’re a pro C

[08:55] Gentle Heron: Coughran, will you be doing a full presentation on this topic any time soon?

[08:55] Coughran Mayo: online clock

[08:55] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – questions for Coughran

[08:55] Zinnia Zauber: Rock Star!

[08:56] Coughran Mayo: Gentle yes, I will be talking about this on the Saturday after next at Agile Bill’s affair

[08:56] Coughran Mayo: which I unfortunately do not have a reference for

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: http://www.meetup.com/agile3d/events/59490692/

[08:56] Buffy Beale: Question: Do you see Virtual Worlds gaining in popularity for business use or has it peaked?

[08:56] Coughran Mayo: but we can get it and send to NPCers

[08:56] Zinnia Zauber: http://agileworlds2012.sched.org/

[08:57] Zinnia Zauber: Those are the links to the event!

[08:57] Buffy Beale: ty Z

[08:57] Coughran Mayo: Buffy, I think if you read the Gartner “hype cycle” report for 2012, you see they believe that the legit use of virtual worlds is just starting to come into its own

[08:57] Coughran Mayo: so I’m very optimistic

[08:57] Buffy Beale: that’s good news

[08:57] Coughran Mayo: we are emerging from the “trough of disillusionment”

[08:58] J Cravens: Hi, everyone. Sorry to be late.

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: well you have my email so don’t be strangers

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: thanks!

[08:58] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Jayne – thats ok. and thank you

[08:58] Zinnia Zauber: We are on the upswing! Coughran, is it important to find a team with “pie in the sky” ideas?

[08:58] Coughran Mayo: I’m sticking to my clock!

 

FEATURED PRESENTER

 

[08:58] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so lets all Welcome Jayne Cravens who is our featured speaker for today’s meeting, talking to us about the TechSoup Forums

[08:59] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a bit about Jayne:

[08:59] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Jayne Cravens is an internationally-recognized trainer, researcher and consultant. Her work is focused on communications, volunteer involvement, community engagement, and management for nonprofits, NGOs, and government initiatives. She is a pioneer regarding the research, promotion and practice of virtual volunteering, including virtual teams, microvolunteering and crowdsourcing, and she is a veteran manager of various local and international initiatives. Jayne received her BA in Journalism from Western Kentucky University and her Master’s degree in Development Management from Open University in the U.K. She is currently based near Portland, Oregon in the USA.

[08:59] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so whenever you are ready Jayne

[08:59] J Cravens: Memorize that. There will be a test later.

[08:59] bulaklak: lol

[08:59] Hour Destiny: Logs really help my memory. πŸ˜€

[08:59] Gentle Heron: Agile Worlds 2012 online here: http://agileworlds2012.sched.org/event/40dbbb60da603130b758fa08932b84dc#…

[08:59] J Cravens: Good morning! I am so sorry I’m late! I could not find this area again – found it last night, but couldn’t this morning. Also, I have an ancient computer – really slows things down.

[08:59] Buffy Beale: Cheering!

[08:59] alebez: woooot, jayne!

[08:59] J Cravens: I’m Jayne Cravens, and this is my first Second Life event/interaction EVER! Usually, I’m wondering around by myself, bumping into things and wondering where I am – which is how I’m in real life as well.

[09:00] Tava Longfall: Welcome Jayne

[09:00] J Cravens: Wandering…..

[09:00] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome!

[09:00] J Cravens: Anyway, how many of you have been on the TechSoup community forum *this year*.

[09:00] Coughran MayoCoughran Mayo raises hand

[09:00] Hour Destiny: Me, as a guest.

[09:00] Buffy Beale: me

[09:00] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir raises hand

[09:01] bulaklak: Me!

[09:01] J Cravens: The forum has changed a lot since it started way back in the ancient days of 2001 or so. Branches have come and gone. But what’s still true – volunteers, employees and consultants at nonprofits, libraries and other such ors have a lot of questions and comments about tech and their work.

[09:02] J Cravens: Since you all are rather savvy tech folks, I invite you to post somethiing today or this week – just something about what you’ve learned, what’s helped you, or what’s challenged you re: tech at your organization.

[09:03] J Cravens: It can be really simple – your ongoing love of FileMaker Pro to track volunteers, your ongoing hatred of teh Cloud – whatever!

[09:04] J Cravens: And, of course, you can offer questions and advice. About your smart phone that you use for work, or Second Life, or your email client, or your attempts to train fellow staff members re: some software tool – truly, whatever.

[09:04] J Cravens: What’s in it for you is that you can find other organizations that are experiencing something similar to you re: the use of tech.

[09:06] J Cravens: And ANYONE from your respective organizations can post to the TechSoup community – not just the IT staff.

[09:06] J Cravens: So, any questions? Comments?

[09:07] Hour Destiny: Are the forums only for those working at/for a nonprofit?

[09:08] Buffy Beale: I think the forum is a handy tool and glad it’s still being supported

[09:08] Coughran Mayo: chat lag

[09:08] J Cravens: You can post as a volunteer for some organization, or for nonprofits in general. Or just as someone who really cares how mission-based organizations use tech.

[09:08] Magic Pathfinder: I am really confused about TechSoups online content… there seems to be numerous channels… and it’s not clear where to focus… are any channels curated for quality?

[09:09] bulaklak: major lag

[09:09] J Cravens: The TechSoup web site has a LOT going on, it’s true. The TechSoup community forum *is* moderated.

[09:09] J Cravens: But we don’t block any content unless it’s spammy.

[09:10] J Cravens: I’m tryingn to get what’s going on in the community better integrated with TechSoup’s activities on Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook.

[09:11] J Cravens: If you follow the #TechSOupDYB tag on Twitter, for instance, you will get tweets about questions on the TS community forum that are particularly hot, interesting, or in need of input.

[09:11] J Cravens: DYB = Donate your brain.

[09:11] J Cravens: Have I missed answering any questions ? I know there’s a serious chat lag.

[09:12] Hour Destiny: Can one access the forums from a prim in SL? That might increase the number of those aware of the forums.

[09:12] bulaklak: How did you first get involved in the forums?

[09:12] J Cravens: Hour Destiny, someone else will have to answer that. MIchael?

[09:12] J Cravens: How I got involved – I got involved with TechSoup when it was Compumentor and sent tech volunteers to nonprofits – I was a client!

[09:13] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Hour – you should be able to… via web on a prim, you could view with no issues and then if you wanted to post, you would have to login and it should allow you to enter/submit…but we would have to test that

[09:13] bulaklak: Thanks, Rhiannon.

[09:13] J Cravens: Then when the TechSoup community was launched, Susan Tenby invited me to participate – and I jumped all over it. I was at the UN at the time, and desperate to talk to other nonprofits re: tech. I was still using USENET, and it was so spammy, it had become useless.

[09:14] Hour Destiny: NNTP.

[09:15] Tava Longfall: My question is how do you keep track of all the different communication channels?

[09:15] J Cravens: I’ve been a client, volunteer and consultant with TechSoup – I expect to get to be janitor at some point, just to cover all the bases.

[09:15] bulaklak: We hire more and more contractors!

[09:15] J Cravens: Tava, if by communications channels you mean Twitter, Facebook, SecondLife, etc., that’s something MIchael or Susan will have to answer.

[09:16] Buffy Beale: lol on the janitor job

[09:16] J Cravens: If you just mean the forum – we track all the different branch activity with old fashioned human review – there’s not a huge amount of traffic, so no software is needed.

[09:16] J Cravens: We involve volunteers – the TechSoup Royal Court – to help keep out spam and to act as subject matter experts.

[09:17] Tava Longfall: I mean by the time I get through emails and facebooks and everything I miss some

[09:17] J Cravens: We have volunteers who are experts at security, for instance.

[09:17] J Cravens: Tava, I hear your pain. For a huge organization like TechSoup, that’s a HUGE challenge.

[09:17] Rhiannon Chatnoir: monitoring and tracking social media would be a great topic of a future meeting πŸ™‚

[09:17] J Cravens: The community team meets every friday on the phone, religiously, because of the need for that kind of internal communication.

[09:18] J Cravens: I agree with Rhiannon, because I don’t know of any nonprofit doing it especially well.

[09:19] J Cravens: I think some people think text-based communities / bulletin boards are on their way out, but I don’t at all – it’s still a preferred “gathering” mehtod for a lot of folks. However, without social media support, such is doomed. Hence why TechSoup does the #TechSoupDYB tag on Twitter.

[09:19] Rhiannon Chatnoir: a few of us here were talking about Beth Kanter’s new book about analyzing the networked nonprofit… will see if we can get her to come speak to us on it – she was an early member of the NonProfit Commons here in Second Life πŸ™‚

[09:19] J Cravens: Right now, I’m refining how the community contributes to the stated goals of TechSoup.

[09:20] J Cravens: Measuring the value of online community, as well as social media outreach, is a challenge – so many of the for-profit/corproate measures do NOT apply.

[09:20] Hour Destiny: http://betanews.com/2012/09/24/bitrix24-gives-away-free-cloud-based-soci… might be of interest.

[09:20] J Cravens: Any other questions or comments about the forum? What can I say to entice you to come post?!

[09:21] Rhiannon Chatnoir: what are some of the most popular forum threads/topics

[09:21] J Cravens: I do hope you will head over to techsoup.org and click on “community” and then “Forum”!

[09:22] J Cravens: Most popular forum is the databases/software forum, in terms of sheer volume.

[09:22] bulaklak: In a way, though, that’s liberating. We can measure success by whether or not questions get answered, which is helpful.

[09:22] J Cravens: Most common question is “What software should I use to do –fillintheblank–“

[09:22] J Cravens: But the more interesting conversations are things like, “Should I block Facebook at work?” or….

[09:23] J Cravens: Should I allow my staff to telecommute.

[09:23] J Cravens: The policy questions are really good debate starters.

[09:24] Coughran Mayo: Telecommuting workers get more done, according to a recent report

[09:24] Hour Destiny: There should be a sticky about how to ask a question.

[09:24] J Cravens: I do a lot of followup with people who post, to see if they get answers to their question.

[09:24] J Cravens: Or felt they got answers. Some of the best comments come from that followup.

[09:24] Buffy Beale: do you have a link for that C?

[09:25] J Cravens: Hour Destiny, do you think people don’t understand the mechanics of asking a question, or how to express such?

[09:25] J Cravens: Buffy – sorry, not understanding….

[09:25] Buffy Beale: Coughran mentioned a report

[09:25] Buffy Beale: I call him C πŸ™‚

[09:25] Coughran Mayo: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-25/what-people-really-do-wh…

[09:26] Buffy Beale: you’re the best C πŸ™‚ ty

[09:26] J Cravens: I could totally speak to the realities of working from home… but I’ll save that for another time.

[09:26] J Cravens: I will say that telecommuting manuals formed the early recommendations regarding virtual volunteering. Some of you may know I’ve researched that topic since 1996 (yikes).

[09:27] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes – another good topic

[09:27] Hour Destiny: jcraves42, I’ve seen too many posts that go like “please help me”.

[09:27] J Cravens: Yeah, the “please help me” posts happen a lot – and that means myself or a community forum volunteer has to write that person and tease out what it is they mean.

[09:27] J Cravens: It’s important to remember that some of these folks are NOT “techies”, and don’t even know how to frame their needs.

[09:28] J Cravens: I hear from people all the time that say they would ask a question, but they “don’t want to sound stupid.”

[09:28] J Cravens: So we work really hard to be welcoming.

[09:29] J Cravens: Some people post that “Please help me message”, and then disappear – they don’t respond to followup messages. I always wonder what happened to them….

[09:29] Tava Longfall: Stupid question is the one you don’t ask

[09:29] Hour Destiny: And they probably don’t bother to read stickies…

[09:30] J Cravens: I repeat myself a lot in messages to members – but I’ve been an online moderator since 1994 (yes, the Internet was around then), so I know that comes with it.

[09:30] J Cravens: I just pretend I’m saying it for the first time.

[09:30] Tava Longfall: And some are so overwhelmed, they don’t know where to start

[09:30] Hour Destiny: Heh. I’ve been on the Internet since 1994 myself.

[09:31] J Cravens: A lot of nonprofits are looking for that one super IT volunteer who can do EVERYTHING – design and manage the web site, design a Facebook outreach strategy, network all the computers, troubleshoot… that person doesn’t exist.

[09:32] J Cravens: So we encourage people to think in pieces – and that can be hard, because people aren’t sure how to break things up.

[09:32] J Cravens: I know it’s a cliche, but I look at the TS community, and all online communties, as a garden.

[09:33] Hour Destiny: Actually, I’ve done all that. πŸ™‚

[09:33] J Cravens: I also try to think, “OKay, if we were all in a room together, face to face, how would I handle this?” Often gives me ideas of what to do online.

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: good strategy

[09:33] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other final questions for Jayne?

[09:33] J Cravens: Involving volunteers has been key – I’m currently recruiting more SME experts, both via the community and via outside channels, like VolunteerMatch.

[09:34] J Cravens: Okay, well, come on over to the forum, and follw me on jcravens42 on Twitter! & I’ll come back, I promise, as an enthusiastic attendee, to one of your future events.

[09:35] J Cravens: http://www.techsoup.org (click on “Community”, then “Forum”)

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: we would love to have you

[09:35] Hour Destiny: http://www.biggerplate.com/mindmaps/PnbDARyK/100-tips-for-using-linkedin…

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: Lets thank Jayne for speaking to us today!

[09:35] Buffy Beale: cheering! thanks Jayne!

[09:35] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great!

[09:35] Tava Longfall: We’re here every Friday

[09:35] Zotarah ShepherdZotarah Shepherd applaudes

[09:36] Gentle Heron: Thank you Jayne. Come visit us again of a Friday morning.

[09:36] J Cravens: Sorry I was late! Glad I didn’t step on anyone.

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: feel free to stay seated here Jayne

 

OPEN MIC / ANNOUNCEMENTS

 

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: we are going to move on to Open Mic / Announcements

[09:36] J Cravens: Probably for the best.

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: so if anyone ahs any announcements for today?

[09:36] Rhiannon Chatnoir: has even

[09:36] Buffy Beale: it’s a requirement to sit down on someone at least once in SL πŸ™‚

[09:36] Buffy Beale: hand up

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes.. happens all the time

[09:37] Buffy Beale: hand up for open mic I mean, not that I sat on someone πŸ™‚

[09:37] Zinnia Zauber: me please

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: be thankful you werent part of the ‘box on the head’ early days of Second Life

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: lol Buffy

[09:37] Buffy Beale: lol

[09:37] Rhiannon Chatnoir: ok, first Buffy, then Zinnia

[09:37] Buffy Beale: thanks Rhi

[09:38] Buffy Beale: If you look around you’ll see that Zinnia, Par and Brena put out NPC members logos

[09:38] Hour Destiny: Rhiannon, like we were for Jon Stewart?

[09:38] Buffy Beale: but… we sadly are still missing some

[09:38] Rhiannon Chatnoir: nod Hour

[09:39] Rhiannon Chatnoir: who should they send their logos to Buffy? if they do not see theirs.

[09:39] HB Eternal: the logos are a great visual

[09:39] Buffy Beale: so if you have not handed in your logo to either of those three or myself, please remember we need it and next time yours will be up there too

[09:39] Buffy Beale: either myself or Brena or Zinnia would do

[09:40] Buffy Beale: that’s it, thanks

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: Thanks, Buffy!

[09:40] Hour Destiny: Does clicking a logo take one to that’s organization’s area?

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: It shares info and a Landmark.

[09:40] Buffy Beale: no Hour, they’re only temporary for the event we had last week

[09:40] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and next Zinnia

[09:40] Zinnia Zauber: If orgs gave us info, we put it in.

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: I want to thank everyone for being part of our celebration last week.

[09:41] Chayenn: it was so great

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: And, encourage you to read the transcript from the Community Planning Workshop we had.

[09:41] Buffy Beale: it was fun!

[09:41] Zinnia Zauber: http://www.nonprofitcommons.org/content/pay-it-forward-transcript-collab…

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: We were very pleased with how that event went and the connections that were made.

[09:42] Ozma Malibu: The Community Planning Workshop was a real eye-opener for me.

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: The CommonGround Meet and Greet was a great time to connect as well.

[09:42] Zinnia Zauber: I think we forged some new friendships there.

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: maybe we can do a mentors corner or presentation at one of our upcoming meetings on a deeper recap of the community workshop

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Ozma!

[09:43] Adalace Jewell: sorry guys, need to go. thx for the meeting

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: Please check out the transcript.

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[09:43] Zinnia Zauber: And, thank you for joining us for our members speaking during the meeting.

[09:43] Rhiannon Chatnoir: thanks Zinnia – if your set – Gentle has an announcement too

[09:44] Gentle Heron: I’d like to promote a conference coming up for virtual world business development. Several NPCers will be speakers, and others you may be interested in. Take a look here at what you can learn between Wednesday October 3 and Saturday October 6.

 

http://agileworlds2012.sched.org/

[09:45] Gentle Heron: Topics include global teamwork, virtual worlds as service delivery tool, professional image, collaboration skills across time zones, and many more.

 

I hope some of our organizations will be able to let us attend. There is a (reasonable) cost to attend.

[09:45] Coughran Mayo: USD$45

[09:45] Gentle Heron: As I said, reasonable.

[09:45] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you, Gentle! I know Coughran, Pathfinder, and myself are speaking. And, this event is a fundraiser as well.

[09:45] Rhiannon Chatnoir: great

[09:46] Zinnia Zauber: This event supports virtualability.org, UW Avalumni, and Rockcliffe University Consortium.

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: … there is a languages/machinima event going on all weekend this weekend… will paste details here

[09:47] Rhiannon Chatnoir: 6th SLanguages Annual Symposium 28-30 September 2012

A free 3-day conference on Language & Culture

in Virtual Worlds held on EduNation in Second Life.

 

Twitter hashtag: #slang12

Themes: Educational Games and Machinima

*************************************

Come join us for 3 days and 50h of program to listen to some 55

guest speakers and actionaries for a weekend on language learning

& culture in virtual worlds such as Second Life, Open Sim and others.

Here are the highlights of the program.

Keynotes by Stylianos Mystakidis and Dr. Cynthia Calongna

Symposium on Euroversity, Visual Anthropology and a Spanish Symposium

Presentations, tours, demo lessons and workshops

Machinimas (3D Video films)

Two 3-hour workshops on how to create a machinima (video in SL)

A games park with some 50 educational games

A ballet performance ‘Petah and the Wolf’ and a party

all sessions are livestreamed with Adobe Connect

************************************

HOMEPAGE

http://avalon-project.ning.com/

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: have collaborated with the MachinEvo group and EduNation – looks interesting πŸ™‚

[09:48] Hour Destiny: Too bad there’s not a TV network for nonprofits.

[09:48] Rhiannon Chatnoir: could happen

[09:48] Rhiannon ChatnoirRhiannon Chatnoir can teach you all to live stream SL

[09:49] Gentle Heron: Hour, most often you can get on your local channel if you have something to put on regularly.

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: any other announcements otherwise we can lose up the meeting

[09:49] Rhiannon Chatnoir: close

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: then thanks to Jayne (who had to head out a bit early) and everyone else for being here this week

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: And again, here are the many ways to can get involved with the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life:

 

– Nonprofit Commons Blog: http://nonprofitcommons.org

– Wiki: http://npsl.wikispaces.com

– Twitter: http://twitter.com/npsl

– Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nonprofitcommons

– Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/TechSoup-Second-Life

– Google Calendar: http://bit.ly/2tMEYh

http://flavors.me/nonprofitcommons

 

About TechSoup the sponsors of the Nonprofit Commons:

 

http://www.techsoup.org/stock/howtousetechsoup.asp

http://flavors.me/techsoup

 

Thanks everyone and see you next week!

 

 

[09:50] Rhiannon Chatnoir: have a wonderful weekend too

[09:51] alebez: goodbye everyone! enjoy the weekend.

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Mentors Meeting at 10!

[09:51] Zinnia Zauber: Please take care everyone and see you soon!

[09:51] Rhiannon Chatnoir: yes!

[09:52] Chayenn: Have a good week end see u next friday

[09:52] Coughran Mayo: I must go, sorry. will miss the Mentors meeting

[09:52] Rhiannon Chatnoir: and … I am setting up our fall speakers calendar.. so if you or anyone else you think would be good to come present to us here at NPC – send them my way

[09:52] Buffy Beale: ok Rhi will do

Written by: Rhiannon Chatnoir

Pay It Forward – Transcript from Collaborative Community Planning Workshop on Sept 21, 2012

Unabridged Transcript from the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life 5th Anniversary Celebration Active Collaborative Community Planning Workshop we had on September 21, 2012 to create solutionsΒ for all our unify goals for the Virtual Vision 2020 – an initiative toΒ develop a plan for the Second Life community.

[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome!

[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: in RL we would say : you cant all talk at once
..but in SL .. yes we can
[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: πŸ™‚
[20:31] JenzZa Misfit: and it works

[20:31] Sister Abeyante yawns and consults her time zone map to wonder
where in the world it is not in the middle of the night…

[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Please have a seat on a cupcake.
[20:31] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, we tried to hit all timezones with events.

[20:31] Orange Planer: Middle-east and further east, Sister.

[20:31] Brena Benoir: While the world sleeps, we plan the takeover lol

[20:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol πŸ™‚

[20:32] Brena Benoir: Hello Aunty

[20:32] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Evening Everyone.

[20:32] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): waves

[20:32] Pamala Clift: Greetings all

[20:32] JenzZa Misfit: ( Ive done that … set clock / get up / for
something awesome online at 3 am / )

[20:32] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): Hello Brena

[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome everyone!
[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: I want to give everyone some time to arrive.
[20:33] Zinnia Zauber: Please invite your friends and groups to join us!
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome to the Nonprofit Commons in Second Life
5th Anniversary Celebration
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: The Nonprofit Commons in Second Life is a
community of social benefit organizations managed by a community of
volunteers and sponsored by the nonprofit organization TechSoup
Global. http://www.nonprofitcommons.org
[20:34] Zinnia Zauber: We have had several events today!
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: I am thrilled that we have this workshop to end
the celebration on.
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for joining us.
[20:35] Zinnia Zauber: This is our Workshop Agenda
8:30 PM Introductions
8:40 PM Explanation of Community Planning and Virtual Vision 2020 purpose
8:50 PM Breakout groups discussion of goals and identification of who
might help achieve goal
9:20 PM Presentation of breakout group solutions and strategies
9:40 PM Build partnerships to lead by example
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: Please come on down and have a seat on a cupcake!
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for coming! This workshop is in chat.
[20:36] Zinnia Zauber: We hope to share this transcript.
[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: So, I am warning you! I am taking names!
[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: πŸ˜‰

[20:37] Orange Planer: My number is….

[20:37] Zinnia Zauber: I would like to introduce myself, I am Zinnia Zauber
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: I am the chair of the Nonprofit Commons’ Mentors.
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: I will be our MC tonight
[20:38] Zinnia Zauber: or you can call me Julie, your cruise director.

[20:38] Pamala Clift: lol

[20:39] Orange Planer: Oh man are you dating yourself or what.

[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: We have Pam Broviak as our lead for the workshop.
[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: yeah, I am.
[20:39] Zinnia Zauber: We like to start our sessions with introductions.

[20:39] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Hello everyone – and thanks to NPC
for hosting this workshop

[20:40] CarmenLittleFawn: Hi πŸ™‚

[20:40] Zinnia Zauber: I encourage you to share who you are in RL if
you like, what orgs or groups you are with, and remember
[20:40] Zinnia Zauber: Smiles everyone, smiles!

[20:40] JenzZa Misfit: hi ! I am *filtered*

[20:40] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): da plane da plane

[20:41] Brena Benoir: Brenda Bryan, Preferred Family Healthcare, NPC member

[20:41] CarmenLittleFawn: giggles, Hi I am Lorna Hawkins, with Drive
By Agony/Keeping Kids Safe out of Los Angeles California

[20:41] Sister Abeyante: Sister Patrice Colletti, SDS Milwaukee, WI
*** @SisterAbeyante http://4equalrights.blogspot.com/ ***
@TechTips4Usds http://techtipssds.blogspot.com/ *** as well as a
volunteer with Virtual Ability, Inc. http://www.virtualability.org

[20:41] Zinnia Zauber: Renne Emiko Brock-Richmond, Sequim Humanities
and Arts Alliance, Sequim, Olympic Peninsula, Washington.
http://www.sequimartsalliance.org
http://www.facebook.com/sequimartsalliance @renneemiko I teach with
Peninsula College and chair the University of Washington’s Virtual
World Alumni org.

[20:41] Gentle Heron: Virtual Ability, Inc. www.virtualability.org

[20:41] Ozma Malibu: Sandy Andrews, Floaters Org, currently in AZ and NPC member

[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): Ricky, DJ DyVerse hiv/aids and
health advocate and blogger
[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): and milk drinker
[20:41] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): lol

[20:42] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:42] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pam Broviak – an engineer working in
local government in Illinois and facilitator for the Virtual Vision
2020 community plan

[20:42] Dancers Yao: Kara Bennett in Los Angeles, Elder Voices, Inc.
works with human rights and health care

[20:42] Namaara MacMoragh: Gloria Kraegel, nonprofit consultant
(http://greatkreations.com), owner of Etopia Community sims
(http://etopiaisland.org), and working with BEST
(http://brainenergysupportteam.org) in Tacoma WA.

[20:42] Pamala Clift: Pamala Clift- The Roadside Philosopher, author
of Virgin’s Handbook on Virtual Relationships
http://www.amazon.com/Virgins-Handbook-Virtual-Relationships-Pamala/dp/1463666993/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348274505&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=virgin’s+handbook+on+virtual+relationships
and CEO of Virtual Handhold, LLChttp://www.virtualhandhold.com/

[20:42] Zinnia Zauber: Please take a moment to introduce yourself if
you are just joining us.
[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: Great to see so many people from the wonderful
state of Washington!
[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: Just bragging, sorry.

[20:43] fate Paule: Penny Condoll, ED of the Brain Energy Support
Team, BEST, an advocate for individuals with a brain injury,
www.brainenergysupportteam.org our focus is peer-peer support and
mentoring

[20:43] Zinnia Zauber: πŸ™‚

[20:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Gramma Fiddlesticks, long time SL’er who
teaches SL skills for several SL school/help groups as well as work
with CF University group in support of their non-profit activities
here in SL.

[20:43] fate Paule: πŸ™‚ i agree zinnia

[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Yay fate!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for introducing yourself!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: This is a wonderful way we find connections and
make new friends!
[20:44] Zinnia Zauber: Have you been reading each other’s profiles?

[20:44] Gramma Fiddlesticks: of course!

[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: Awesome!

[20:45] CarmenLittleFawn: not yet, but I will πŸ™‚

[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: I think our Profiles are a way we share what
communities we belong to in SL.
[20:45] Zinnia Zauber: What do those communities actually say about us?
[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: Let me remind you of our agenda again.

[20:46] Orange Planer: Are you asking for feedback?

[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: We got through the first part!

[20:46] Zinnia Zauber: Orange you will find I ask questions for engagement.
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: So you are welcome to respond.

[20:47] Brena Benoir: I think that depends on the person and their
reason for being here in SL

[20:47] Orange Planer sets up a pair of speakers next to Zinnia’s microphone.

[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: And, I take dark chocolate offerings.

[20:47] Gentle Heron: Zinnia, are they rhetorical or can we respond
intermittently?

[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: They are both.
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: So I am totally fine with you answering them
[20:47] Zinnia Zauber: Because I know that I am not being interrupted.
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: I want those answers!
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: hehe
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: Welcome Dude!
[20:48] Zinnia Zauber: Thanks for joining us

[20:48] Gentle Heron: I find it’s useful to look at others’ profiles
and group lists in SL. That often tells me more on first meeting a
person here than I could learn by first meeting them in RL.

[20:48] JenzZa Misfit: back , sorry .. I’m JenzZa .. alot of you know
me from the production team for Metanomics in SL , the rest is
complicated but interesting …so here’s my number, call me maybe ! *
Jenny Jenny ..8 6 7 5 3 .. 0 .. 9 *
[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: re: see profile

[20:49] PowerchairDude: hello

[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, great answer Gentle!
[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: 9 e 9 nine

[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: lol

[20:49] Sister Abeyante: I agree- our groups are a peek into us- our
interests and priorities.

[20:49] JenzZa Misfit: I already love you Zinnia !

[20:49] Sister Abeyante scans her groups and starts hiding some….

[20:49] Zinnia Zauber: So, with reading those profiles we make discoveries

[20:49] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[20:50] Orange Planer: OMG!

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: Do you make friend requests because of what you discover?

[20:50] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): has no groups so I represent my
dementia very well lol

[20:50] CarmenLittleFawn: mmmhmmm

[20:50] Orange Planer: I just discovered all my friends are….
[20:50] Orange Planer: VOLUNTEERS!

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:50] Gentle Heron smiles at Orange’s discovery
[20:50] Gentle Heron: That also says something about you, who your friends are.

[20:50] Zinnia Zauber: ha DyVerse

[20:50] PowerchairDude: lol

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: right
[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: Why do we make friends in Second Life?
[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: Do we want to find a community that we can belong to?

[20:51] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): so I can make them listen to me play music

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: yes! That is true!

[20:51] JenzZa Misfit: .. I am actually suspicious of any group that
would actually have me .. as a member *scribbling notes*

[20:51] Namaara MacMoragh: like-minded firends, professional collaborations,

[20:51] Orange Planer: They’re patient with me when I forget who they are.

[20:51] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[20:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: some of us make friends here because our
rl contacts are limited.

[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: Ah, very good Gramma!
[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: That is the power of virtual worlds, right?

[20:52] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): because we share similar paths and stories

[20:52] Zinnia Zauber: Yes yes

[20:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Exactly Zinnia

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: this is great!

[20:53] Namaara MacMoragh: I agree with Gramma… for myself I really
don’t get out much and this has been a great way to meet people I like
without the barriers often presented in RL.

[20:53] Dancers Yao: I enjoy meeting people from different cultures…

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: yes!

[20:53] Brena Benoir: Maybe we see something in a profile that sparks
our interest

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: How many of us have met our SL friends in RL?

[20:53] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I have met some. =)

[20:53] Sister Abeyante: Sometimes, friending is about building
community, but more often, it’s about connecting..then after
coonecting, getting to know someone…then after connecting, and
getting to know the person, THEN a sense of communty.

[20:53] Brena Benoir: I have

[20:53] Namaara MacMoragh: I’ve met a couple of them. Not as many as
Coughran. πŸ™‚

[20:53] Dancers Yao: a few

[20:53] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): ummmm i have meet them virtualy
without their avatar

[20:53] Zinnia Zauber: I have.

[20:53] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): lol

[20:53] JenzZa Misfit: I am and have been in SL since 06 .. actually
as my RL work and the friends collection is a happy accident and
awesome by-product !

[20:54] PowerchairDude: excure me do you have a problem with your
avatar Pam or is that your avatar, I have had a problem with my avatar
and have figured out how to fix it.
[20:54] PowerchairDude: excure*

[20:54] Brena Benoir: not sure we can even think about competing with
him on that one Namaara

[20:54] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): am i smoke? it looks find to me
PowerchairDude – what do you see?

[20:54] Zinnia Zauber: Are you seeing Pam as a cloud?

[20:54] Orange Planer: Yes, I am.

[20:54] Zinnia Zauber: I see that too.

[20:55] PowerchairDude: yes

[20:55] Par (parhelion.palou): Yes

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: not seeing “all” of her.

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: no

[20:55] Dancers Yao: yes

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: I see her

[20:55] Brena Benoir: I am seeing a missing section πŸ™

[20:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[20:55] Brena Benoir: I thought it was me

[20:55] Gentle Heron: yes cloudy with a chance of meatballs maybe?

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: awww

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: same for me Brena

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[20:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): let me check what i am wearing

[20:55] Sister Abeyante shrugs and assumed it is just “SL”! LOL

[20:55] Pamala Clift: just a cloud

[20:55] Brena Benoir: rofl Gentle

[20:55] Orange Planer: I’m not worrying about a cloud avatar.

[20:55] CarmenLittleFawn: lag

[20:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I thought perhsps she was wearing a mesh
clothign item. sometimes those don’t fully rez for me.

[20:55] Orange Planer: That issue will resolve itself.

[20:55] Pamala Clift: just add a new set of eyes and it resets

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: It is okay, she is full of solid things to say!

[20:55] Gentle Heron: Right this is SL… we can move on.

[20:55] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[20:56] Gentle Heron: There she comes now.

[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Now we can see you!

[20:56] Gramma Fiddlesticks: there she is!

[20:56] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): although it is scary to start taking
things off i tried πŸ™‚ did i get it?

[20:56] PowerchairDude: it happens

[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Okay, I am going to have Pam share with us now.
[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Explanation of Community Planning and Virtual
Vision 2020 purpose
[20:56] Zinnia Zauber: Please have a seat with JayR.

[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks Powerchair for letting me
know I was hollow! πŸ™‚
[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Virtual Vision 2020 is an attempt to
capture the community’s thoughts, ideas, opinions, and goals for
Second Life.

[20:57] PowerchairDude: me either but I just wasn’t sure so I asked
[20:57] PowerchairDude: lol

[20:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Modeled off the community planning
process that takes place in communities all across the world, this
virtual plan can help the Second Life community define itself, set
goals for its future, and offer a roadmap for success.

[20:57] PowerchairDude: your welcome

[20:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): A community plan helps people
anticipate and prepare for their collective future.
[20:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): More specifically it explains why
the plan is needed, identifies community goals and objectives,
compares options and sets priorities, and suggests actions and
solutions and explores how well they might meet expectations of the
community.

[20:58] Pamala Clift: *raises hand*. Do we have LL buy in as well.. so
they don’t pull the rug out from under our expectations?

[20:59] Orange Planer: The LAST thing you want is “LL buy-in.”

[20:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I had tried to contact them
initially because I believe it would be best to have their
involvement, but I never heard from them at all

[20:59] Gentle Heron: I’d like to ask about background assumptions for
this proposed effort. I see several stated on the website:
A healthy and sustainable economy is important to the success of a community.
An interesting and vibrant culture is important to the success of a community.
Education is important to every community.

Would you please share other assumptions of Virtual Vision2020?

[20:59] Par (parhelion.palou): LL’s involvement in SL is minimal
trending to non-existent

[20:59] Pamala Clift: if they change the platform.. nothing we do will matter

[20:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks can vouch for that Orange!

[20:59] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Have any of you participated in a
plan in your RL communities?

[20:59] Orange Planer: If I might interject a comment….

[21:00] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- I have (participated in RL community planning)

[21:00] Orange Planer: The problem with LL buy-in is that they change
direction, thus negating anything anybody has done that ties in with
that “buy-in.”

[21:00] Brena Benoir: Employer strategic planning teams

[21:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): go ahead Orange and then I’ll
address Gentle’s question

[21:00] Gentle Heron: Yes, I’ve participated in planning under several
different levels of “community”

[21:00] Zinnia Zauber: I was on our city planning committee.

[21:00] Orange Planer: The result is that plans and organization get
destroyed, and I have direct experience with this.

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If you’ve participated in RL on a
committee you realize the benefit of having the “governing” authority
involved.

[21:01] Orange Planer: While LL may change the platform, they aren’t
changing anything NPC does, which is all about communication.

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): unfortunately here I am not sure LL
realizes the benefit of their involvement

[21:01] Orange Planer: LL doesn’t care, Pam.
[21:01] Orange Planer: That’s not what they’re about.

[21:01] Pamala Clift: that is my point.. if this becomes a gaming
platform that eliminates notices.. screws up the marketplace.. locks
down sims.. what do we really hope to do?

[21:01] Dancers Yao: yes…we help with issues of discrimination,
prejudice, gang violence

[21:01] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I am not sure if it is not caring or
not getting it

[21:01] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:01] Orange Planer: Not care.
[21:02] Orange Planer: Plenty of them “get it,” but business interests
have always driven them towards a different goal.

[21:02] JenzZa Misfit: so true Orange , and we should not be surprised
by that really.

[21:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): anyway, I had thought the plan idea
would have to be abandoned until I saw what happened with SL9B and
realized the community can still plan

[21:02] Zinnia Zauber: Regardless of LL, we need to work together.

[21:02] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:02] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That could be Orange

[21:02] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): I have seen the LL culture change
over the years it is no longer sl community based but LL business
based

[21:02] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[21:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): for example, in our city our
churches create their own community plans without our participation
and it is important for them to still do so even though the city is
not involved in it

[21:03] Ozma Malibu: today has made me optimistic. so much was
showcased, and it all has implications

[21:03] JenzZa Misfit: We have to remember that LL is a company
selling a product ( SL ) to it’s customers ( the community )

[21:03] Gramma Fiddlesticks: byt don’t you all see, as long as they
don’t take down the gird, SL9B proved we CAN still operate as a
communities here and do what we’ve always done.

[21:03] Orange Planer: Pam – when the SL Mentors broke up, LL started
another program, this time independently run, to create mentor groups
that simply fulfilled a number of criteria. For the most part those
groups are not well organized, but at least three of them are, and
they plan and communicate quite well on their own.

[21:03] Gramma Fiddlesticks: *grid

[21:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gramma that is what I had thought
too so figured it would be worthwhile to at least try to develop a
plan

[21:03] Orange Planer: Your experience with SLB only verifies that.

[21:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: People said it couldn’t be done. But
thewe DID DO IT! And it was a great success!

[21:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Orange, if we identify goals
that the community can make happen then it will be successful

[21:04] Orange Planer nods

[21:05] Gramma Fiddlesticks: there’s an old saying about that you know. =)

[21:05] Ozma Malibu: sometimes, people’s voices are heard by going
outside the community, and then the powers that be say “oh – I didn’t
realize that what you are doing, is also good for me.” But this may be
a last chance. They may be hoping that, as the Arizona governor says,
we will all just self-deport. Leave, and then not be a bother. Well,
sometimes I am optimistic.

[21:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we can also try to identify goals
that only LL can do and then it is up to them to decide if our well
being and happiness mean enough to them to take on meeting those goals

[21:05] Zinnia Zauber: We can agree that LL has their issues. I always
say, “Solutions, not excuses.” Which is why we are here!
[21:05] Zinnia Zauber: Great, Pam!

[21:06] CarmenLittleFawn: mmhmm

[21:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Gentle – you brought up a great
question – the foundation of the plan really

[21:06] Gramma Fiddlesticks: LL is a business. WE are the “SL communities.

[21:06] Zinnia Zauber: Very good, Gramma. Yes.

[21:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I approached it as we would if we
were in a RL community just changing it to accommodate the virtual
setting

[21:07] PowerchairDude: ooh pictures huh?

[21:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): so i focused on economy education
and culture along with land and infrastructure – all those things are
what supports a RL plan

[21:08] Pamala Clift: Well connection and notices that are so small
and you cant open them to read.. sims locking down components for the
gaming and gltiches that work oppostie the community good? …

[21:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): of course, if anyone brings up
another element it should definitely go into the plan

[21:09] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- a question: can a community thrive and
be vibrant even if some or one of those components you just listed is
missing or weak?

[21:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – it can if the weak element
is not important to that community

[21:09] Gentle Heron: So I’m noting that one underlying assumption is
that virtual communities have the same components are RL ones.
[21:10] Gentle Heron: *as RL ones

[21:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Pamala – those are exactly the type
of infrastructure issues to identify

[21:10] Dancers Yao: yet it helps in a RL community to be able to vote
for the people in charge….

[21:10] Pamala Clift: I love this platform.. fight to pull people
together.. and use it for education.. ..but as I am watching the
values of the community being squashed.. .. I have less hope.

[21:10] Namaara MacMoragh: You have a good point, Gentle.

[21:10] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Gentle – yes I watch RL communities
closely and have watched SL since I Joined – i am amazed by the
similarities – not sure how others have viewed this?

[21:10] Orange Planer: Pamala, are you aware that Linden Research is
embarking on a multi-year, multi-million dollar effort to speed up the
grid?

[21:11] JenzZa Misfit: for Steam …

[21:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Dancers – although we cannot vote
for our “overlords” we can suggest a goal of an elected community
representative group

[21:11] DJ DyVerse (urbanskribbles): is the plan taking in
consideration other virtual worlds or just second life?

[21:12] PowerchairDude: ???? your what??

[21:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @DJ this plan is just looking at SL.
Although I am involved in another community plan for another grid

[21:12] Sister Abeyante: Expanding on Gentles comment- would any of us
here say that, perhaps, there are additional components of community
that are unique to SL or virtual worlds?

[21:13] Orange Planer: Sister – distance communication, presence, the
ability to create one’s environment.
[21:13] Orange Planer: Virtual worlds like Second Life/ReactionGrid,
etc., all have this in common.

[21:13] Sister Abeyante nods enthusiastically in agreement… and
suggests “time shifting” and its relationship to RL geography might
also be on the list.

[21:13] Pamala Clift: I would like LL to give us notice windows that
open up.. that DONT have the time stamped on it of the notice right on
top, but just allow us to put the time of the event. Right now half
the time I can not even OPEN attachments.

[21:13] Ozma Malibu: The social cues here are different, but they have
counterparts in RL

[21:14] Namaara MacMoragh: If we operate in virtual worlds with RL
assumptions we miss the opportunities, in my opinion, to build
creative collaborations that can transform what we do in RL.

[21:14] PowerchairDude: yes and I a gree

[21:14] Namaara MacMoragh: I think we need to own our underlying
assumptions first before we can change them.

[21:14] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Pamela those are “viewer” issues.

[21:14] PowerchairDude: agree

[21:15] Pamala Clift: yes it is the viewer issues that I am concerned
about as seems they are working to close other platforms

[21:15] Namaara MacMoragh: Too often we approach what we do here the
way would in RL and thereby limit ourselves.

[21:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): the viewer issues are a type of infrastructure

[21:15] fate Paule: great point Nam

[21:15] Gentle Heron nods to Namaara.

[21:15] Dancers Yao: In SL I think you can explore more imaginitive
possibilities for solving problems in a global community setting…

[21:15] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Namaara that is a good point – the
counterpart to RL might be here yet if we want to enhance it or take
advantage of the virtual setting that is a goal to set

[21:15] Sister Abeyante: @ Namaara: So you are proposing that VWs have
some fundamental differences.

[21:15] PowerchairDude: I would like to see a system that doesn’t
bombard you with stuff to click on the second u get there too
[21:16] PowerchairDude: better to have a help desk with stuff to click on

[21:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): So as we discuss the goals here
perhaps we should also consider in setting the goals and strategy for
meeting them the virtual setting and abilities we have

[21:17] Ozma Malibu: It’s a culture that you come to know by interacting here.

[21:17] Namaara MacMoragh: I think the opportunity to be creative is
greater in virtual worlds along with the abiltiy to truly transend
borders.

[21:17] Zinnia Zauber: Goals! Now my signs come in! Yay!

[21:17] Pamala Clift: We all have our groups and our pet projects, we
would like to be able to keep at least what we have developed.

[21:17] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚
[21:18] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia has laid out four main goals
(one is open for suggestion) We would like to break into smaller
discussion groups and each group take on that goal

[21:19] Zinnia Zauber: Then we will have Presentation of breakout
group solutions and strategies.

[21:19] Gentle Heron: wait wait…. solutions? do goals have solutions?

[21:19] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes! so in each group you can
discuss that goal, explore ways to meet that goal and who might be
involved

[21:19] PowerchairDude: sometimes

[21:20] Orange Planer: Not all goals have solutions.
[21:20] Orange Planer: Or, realistic solutions.

[21:20] Zinnia Zauber: how about aims?

[21:20] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): if we can’t meet the goal that would
be a conclusion then and the goal would have to be abandoned

[21:20] Orange Planer: Not true.

[21:20] Zinnia Zauber: You can’t hit the target without aiming.

[21:21] Dancers Yao: we can explore possible paths to reaching goals

[21:21] Orange Planer: One can work toward a goal without knowing what
the final solution will be.

[21:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Dancer!

[21:21] Gentle Heron: Paths, yes, that I understand. Paths to a goal.

[21:21] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and who might help us get there

[21:21] Sister Abeyante likes Dancers’ image

[21:21] Zinnia Zauber: Great!

[21:21] Sister Abeyante: Goals>>>Paths>>> Help/Resources to get there

[21:21] Dancers Yao: a mythic journey for the information age!

[21:22] Orange Planer: It’s like trying to figure out how to make a
nuclear fusion power reactor that runs consistently.

[21:22] JenzZa Misfit: ‘ rapid understanding ‘ of virtual worlds &
faster immersion ( in your dreams )

[21:22] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Exactly Sister!

[21:22] Gentle Heron: JenzZa, think GOAL!

[21:22] Sister Abeyante raises her hand: Where did these four come
from to start with? Maybe I missed something?

[21:22] JenzZa Misfit: goal Gentile ! goal goal ! * raising a hockey stick*

[21:23] Orange Planer notes JenZa’s north american bent.

[21:23] Gramma Fiddlesticks: but isn’t that exactly as it should be
Jenza?? When we were “born” (rezzed) in real life, didn’t we have to
leanr to walk/talk/move etc??? Why shoul dit be any different here???

[21:23] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): We chose the goals based on the
discussions we’ve had so far – what we’ve heard from the community in
general. Zinnia left one open for suggestion or if people thought one
was not good, we can certainly change it to one we thought was better

[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: thats an unrealistic goal .. imo
[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: right Gramma .. but it took you 18 years right ?

[21:23] Sister Abeyante: @Pam- thanks for clarifying that.

[21:23] JenzZa Misfit: to learn to be a human adult ?

[21:23] CarmenLittleFawn: please state the goals and I agree with sister

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: being an avatar is not a costume …
[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: that you can slap on and go.

[21:24] Gramma Fiddlesticks: yes in RL it did. and in here it took
less than 8 months!

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: OK ..8 months
[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: but it doesnt take 8 minutes .. or 8 days even

[21:24] Orange Planer: Some people less.
[21:24] Orange Planer: Depends on the person.

[21:24] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The goals are:

[21:24] JenzZa Misfit: thats the problem

[21:24] Gramma Fiddlesticks: It took me a week to learn to walk here!

[21:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Improving onboarding of people –
similar to what you are discussing here – how to get people involved
faster and better

[21:25] Gramma Fiddlesticks: people seem to want to be able to do
everythign instantly.

[21:25] JenzZa Misfit: RLADLL ( real life attention doesnt last long ) syndrome

[21:25] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The next would be helping people
find things related to their interests faster and better
[21:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Gramma – good point – and perhaps
the goal should accept that and find a way to manage it – just an idea
of how it could be approached

[21:26] JenzZa Misfit: .. the person at the keyboard at somepoint ..
gets it .. and becomes their avatar . .if they stick it out long
enough πŸ™‚ but i rarely happens quickly I find

[21:26] Dancers Yao: and encourage exploring…like in RL learning new
skills isn’t always easy

[21:26] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The 3rd goal is helping people to
build partnerships, networks, relationships – creating an
environment/tools that are conducive to meeting this goal
[21:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Dancer – good add on that one!

[21:27] PowerchairDude: I think it would be a good idea to make a
YouTube video about SL and how to use it .

[21:27] Orange Planer: Been done… for Viewer 1.

[21:27] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JenzZa – that is so true – so maybe
the goal realizes it takes time and explores how to best handle that
or convey that to the user

[21:27] Gramma Fiddlesticks: agree JenzZa. Once they “get it”, they
stay and become productive, contributing members of SL. So I would
think the “goal” with that is to help them “understand” what SL is all
about.

[21:28] PowerchairDude: thats good

[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: bingo !!!

[21:28] Orange Planer: But we’re up to Viewer 3 now.

[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: yahtzee !
[21:28] JenzZa Misfit: woot !

[21:28] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): and the final goal would be open for
suggestions

[21:28] Zinnia Zauber: Does anyone have a suggestion?

[21:29] JenzZa Misfit: put 20 of em in a room with JenzZa .. she will
sell them on SL πŸ™‚ *heh*
[21:29] JenzZa Misfit: j/k !

[21:29] PowerchairDude: lol
[21:29] Ozma Malibu: is there a place for “getting the word out”

[21:29] Sister Abeyante: This is interesting. In a sense, all three
stated goals relate to improving the infrastructure (ie how to make it
happen fater/easier). None really relate to the culture aspect
directly… only as it is mediated by the infrastructure?

[21:29] Ozma Malibu: sharing what we’ve learned?

[21:29] Zinnia Zauber: Well, that is a good point.

[21:29] Gramma Fiddlesticks: that’s the 64K L$ question I’ve been
asking and trying to find solutions for and helping people with for
over 5 years Pam!

[21:29] Zinnia Zauber: So I have a suggestion.

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: Sister ! i noticed that too !

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: We are all doing such a great job brainstorming together.

[21:30] Namaara MacMoragh: I agree with Sister Abeyante on that.
[21:30] Orange Planer: There’s one key point that nobody explains to
new residents that completely blows their mind.

[21:30] Ozma Malibu: relating to other groups that aren’t in SL, but
have something in common?

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: Let stay together and cover each goal as a big team.

[21:30] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – culture could be
incorporated because perhaps enhancing or building culture would help
in the goal for either onboarding or for finding interests

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: only one, Orange? lol

[21:30] Dancers Yao: good idea Zinnia

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: So, I think about how I try to bring people into SL.

[21:30] Orange Planer: It’s that there is a conversion between Lindens
and American dollars and vice versa.

[21:30] Zinnia Zauber: I created a set of slideshows to help people.

[21:30] JenzZa Misfit: oh , agreed

[21:31] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Doing away with official “greeters” to
help and explain to brand new first time logins was a huge mistake in
my humble opinion.

[21:31] Orange Planer: That creates a connected economy that drives SL.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber: It was part of a project that I did for ASU.

[21:31] Orange Planer: I disagree, Gramma.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber:
http://www.slideshare.net/renneemiko/intro-to-second-life-part-1-of-2

[21:31] Pamala Clift: I wrote the book specifically to help with
engagement issues and the evolution of perspective.. Disassociative,
Immersive & Augmentative

[21:31] Sister Abeyante: @ Pam- I wonder… is the vibrancy of a
community (in a vw) then more dependent on infrastructure than,
perhaps, in RL?

[21:31] Brena Benoir: agreed Gramma

[21:31] Orange Planer: Except that no psychologist/psychiatrist backs
you on it, Pamala.

[21:31] Zinnia Zauber: When we talk about these goals, we need to
think of how we are actively created community through the action and
thought.

[21:31] Gramma Fiddlesticks: sorry orange. If the right people are
doing the greeting, then it works. I worked for 2 years doing exactly
that and many many of those first time people I helped are still here.

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: Rapid Understanding of Virtual Worlds and
Faster Immersion

[21:32] CarmenLittleFawn: ty Zinnia and I agree

[21:32] Orange Planer: So did I, Gramma, but the problem is that there
cannot be enough people who do the job well enough.

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: How do we welcome people to our RL communities?

[21:32] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Sister – i love that question
because i am very involved in infrastructure in RL – my experience
there is that our communities would completely fall apart without it
working well but no one realizes it or understands how dependent they
are on it

[21:32] Zinnia Zauber: Do we make suggestions for great waffle places?

[21:32] PowerchairDude: There is a VA Island that teaches people how
to use SL they should maybe add a video

[21:32] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Perhaps orange. perhaps. It DOES take
special patience and a lot of “people skills” to do the job.

[21:33] Ozma Malibu: one on one mentoring is what works, I think we all agree.
[21:33] Ozma Malibu: and that is also the problem.

[21:33] Orange Planer: And, most people don’t want handholding – they
want to be shown an interface that makes sense right off the bat, and
so they can do things.

[21:33] Ozma Malibu: Oh, well, if that is what you want πŸ™‚

[21:33] Orange Planer: So these days, I show people how to use search,
the map, how to create landmarks, and how to change their avatar.

[21:33] Zinnia Zauber: So people need different solutions to learn to
enter this community.

[21:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I hear the suggestion for mentors or
one on one help from everyone but most seem to think it is not
scalable – what do you think?

[21:34] JenzZa Misfit: you need a legion of pied pipers ( happy
avatars that love SL ) who each take on smallish groups of newcomers
to EXPLAIN and POM POM the important and cool things about being an
avatar. it’s not all about walking or rezzing a prim. THAT .. PLUS an
easier to use interface = growing community

[21:34] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Seems to me that many come here expecting
WOW and find instead, small town America, where they have to actually
spend time learning..

[21:34] Zinnia Zauber: Okay cheerleaders and fun buttons.

[21:34] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): is there an example of this
occurring in RL we can follow? welcome wagons? etc?

[21:34] Sister Abeyante thinks of the “each one-teach one” philosophy
of the Laubach Literacy Movement (USA)

[21:34] JenzZa Misfit: .. course you need to knock out the unsavory
aspects as well .. which will never happen.

[21:34] Zinnia Zauber: I agree, JenzZa

[21:35] CarmenLittleFawn: mentors pam, one on one works but can wear u out

[21:35] Ozma Malibu: yes, each one teach one, exactly right

[21:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @CArmen – that is the conclusion
that is usually reached even though most think one on one is best

[21:35] PowerchairDude: lol we bake a pie and bring it over to their
house and welcome them to the community I woudl like to have greaters
for the communities…

[21:35] Zinnia Zauber: Wouldn’t that be cool if everyone fostered someone new?

[21:35] JenzZa Misfit: Gramma TRUE .. about the learning .. but .. its
like the horse and water right ? you cant make him drink .. but you
CAN salt the oats and make him thirsty , yes ? ….

[21:35] Zinnia Zauber: Pay it forward.

[21:35] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol Power

[21:35] Ozma Malibu: and making this scalable hasn’t happened. I think
it’s that the personal is so important.

[21:35] Orange Planer: OK, show of hands – how many people here use
the Viewer 3 interface?

[21:36] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I spent 2 years on the old teen grid
working with kids who had been “on their own” there for some time.
They were gratefull for the teaching.

[21:36] JenzZa Misfit: so once someone kind of GETS it and sees a
reason to LEARN .. they willingly learn

[21:36] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): That seems true JenzZa

[21:36] Zinnia Zauber: So, we know people want to learn more, right?

[21:36] PowerchairDude: yes

[21:36] CarmenLittleFawn: to much trouble viewer 3

[21:36] JenzZa Misfit: oh yes .. people are people in RL .. see ? so
if they are motivated .. they act !

[21:36] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I use Viewer 3 ONLY for mesh uploads and
to send things to the marketplace. Otherwise I revert back to Pheonix.

[21:36] Zinnia Zauber: Viewer 3 is great to teach with.

[21:37] PowerchairDude: which one is that?

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: lol .. I am a developer and would you believe I
am on viewer 1 !! as we speak .. LOL

[21:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I use the most up to date viewer and
sometimes firestorm

[21:37] PowerchairDude: I am using Firefox

[21:37] Orange Planer: I humbly suggest that if more people knew what
the V3 interface looked like, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

[21:37] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[21:37] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I’d belive it jenzZa!

[21:37] Zinnia Zauber: okay

[21:37] PowerchairDude: oops firestorm
[21:37] PowerchairDude: lol

[21:37] CarmenLittleFawn: Singularity here

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: Orange .. is that good or bad ?

[21:37] Orange Planer: Firestorm has a V3 interface, but it’s optional.

[21:37] JenzZa Misfit: v3?

[21:37] Gentle Heron: Viewer 3 here

[21:37] Zinnia Zauber: so, viewer smuiwer

[21:37] CarmenLittleFawn: some times firestorm

[21:38] Orange Planer: My point is this

[21:38] CarmenLittleFawn: viewer 3 only when forced

[21:38] JenzZa Misfit: oh i have the latest firestorm .. I just rarely use it

[21:38] Zinnia Zauber: The viewers will always change.

[21:38] Orange Planer: Viewer 3 works more like a Windows application;
right-click vertical menu, simplified menu structure, keeps the number
of options down to a dull roar.

[21:38] Gramma Fiddlesticks: of course they will Zinnia!

[21:38] Zinnia Zauber: They will always get better (or worse).

[21:38] Orange Planer: That’s as it should be for any new resident.

[21:39] Zinnia Zauber: New folks will start with what LL gives them to download.

[21:39] Orange Planer: Put your mouse over something, you get an info button.

[21:39] Sister Abeyante: I am thinking that, as far as the
infrastructure component of a viewer (which I agree, is certainly a
fundamental infrastructure!), it needs to Either so easy to learn
ithat ts intuitive… or there is a standardized method to learn the key
components.

[21:39] JenzZa Misfit: when I am doing RendeZvous development testing
.. old viewer 1.23 .. is the most stable of all ..especially when
testing new scripts *shrug*

[21:39] Orange Planer: Yes, but oldbies tend to stick with what they know.
[21:39] Orange Planer: And that means we’re all oldbies… and most of
us are not using V3.

[21:39] Zinnia Zauber: Key Components!

[21:39] Orange Planer: So we’re having the same old discussion.

[21:39] PowerchairDude: what is new with v3? r u missing out if using V1?

[21:39] CarmenLittleFawn: yes sister

[21:39] Orange Planer: Yes, PowerChair.
[21:39] Orange Planer: Development on Viewer 1 stopped a couple years ago.

[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: So, those key things we need to help make
easier to tackle.

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: I am , Powerchair .. missing out on some
features right ? but not ones I need … so not really
[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: web on a prim / cant see it ..etc

[21:40] Pamala Clift: I am in V3 and have taken the classes for the
new AI construct

[21:40] Orange Planer: Can’t do mesh.

[21:40] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I’ve used several different viewers so
that I can answer questions from my students about where things are.
But my personal use is still 9and prolly will be for a long time) a
viewer 1 style viewer such as Pheonix

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: or mesh .. * again .. do not need it for my work *

[21:40] Orange Planer: Except that lots of avatars are walking around
in mesh outfits.

[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: Great, that leads into our next goal…
[21:40] Zinnia Zauber: Engaged Discovering of Your Interests and Pursuits

[21:40] Sister Abeyante: RE: key components to learn- that canshift us
away from infrastrcture, to…”education” (another of the components
Pam indicated earlier)

[21:40] Par (parhelion.palou): and mesh saves me a lot of prims in landscaping

[21:40] JenzZa Misfit: but I do not go anywhere .. I am always on my
island working lol

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: So how you can create and find interesting things here.

[21:41] PowerchairDude: thats good

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: We use different viewers to do it, but the
world is the same.

[21:41] Gramma Fiddlesticks: People have to be encouraged to go ‘exploring”.

[21:41] CarmenLittleFawn: encouraged to explore yes

[21:41] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): LL has set up the destination guide
for this, but is there another method to develop to get people
somewhere they like fast?

[21:41] Zinnia Zauber: great how do you do that?

[21:42] Ozma Malibu: Is “engaged discovering of interests and
pursuits” motivational enough to get people past the chaos?

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: Do you hand out Landmarks?

[21:42] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): Firestorm here. My alt uses
viewer 3 so I am familiar with it

[21:42] Gramma Fiddlesticks: open up the big map, scroll around, look
for a spot and teleport there!

[21:42] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): The destination guide doesn’t seem
to work well for newcomers does it?

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: Right, Ozma! Finding out their mission!

[21:42] Orange Planer: Sure it does, Pam.

[21:42] Sister Abeyante: @Zinnia- I find most new folks REALLY appreciate LMs.

[21:42] Zinnia Zauber: yes yes

[21:42] Namaara MacMoragh: I post things of interest on our community
calendar for Etopia.

[21:43] PowerchairDude: I was just in the Market Place and was reading
about Mesh lol I would hate to have a mesh suit looking at how some
viewer cant even view Mesh I would hope they get a blured avatar

[21:43] Zinnia Zauber: I like to ask people a million questions and
give suggestions.

[21:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: LM’s work well. And it’s easy to explain
how they are used. Even to the newest of the new.

[21:43] CarmenLittleFawn: LM, yes and engaged discovering

[21:43] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Orange – so the guide has been
shown to be helpful? is that then for avatars of all ages?

[21:43] Namaara MacMoragh: That allows subscribers and residents to
see things they may not find on the destination guide or SL events
calendar.

[21:43] Zinnia Zauber: Do you search groups to get ideas?

[21:43] Gramma Fiddlesticks: sometimes Zinnia.

[21:43] CarmenLittleFawn: search yes

[21:43] Pamala Clift: I think people don’t READ much any more.. I
think they want it in Videos

[21:43] Orange Planer: If I’m shown a list of possible destinations
that I can look at by category and is simple to navigate… and I see
new residents appearing at all the places there, then I think it’s
safe to say it works.

[21:44] Sister Abeyante: @ Zinnia- I have never searched groups to get
ideas. But, I have used SEARCH function to find locations.

[21:44] Ozma Malibu: Have people start joining groups right away I think

[21:44] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Maybe there could be an interest
survey you take on their site and it builds a little tour for you? (my
kids did this for me in the makeup store today to find a fragrance!)

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: When you arrive to a new town, how do you find
a connection?

[21:44] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Orange

[21:44] Gramma Fiddlesticks: explain to people what all those green
dots are on the big map. =))

[21:44] Orange Planer: That’s a harder question, Zinnia. People don’t
know how to SEARCH yet.

[21:44] Sister Abeyante: When I arrive new to a town, I find a tour guide!

[21:44] CarmenLittleFawn: search functions yes

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! I like that idea, a survey and then custom guide.

[21:44] Orange Planer: And that’s the failing I see.

[21:44] Zinnia Zauber: Great, Sister!

[21:44] Pamala Clift: I wont take a survey. sigh..

[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: Well, think about Amazon giving you suggestions.

[21:45] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes Sister – or i look for the visitor center!

[21:45] Par (parhelion.palou): Nobody could ever manage to keep a tour
database updated

[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: if you like this sim, you might also like this sim.
[21:45] Zinnia Zauber: people who visited this sim, also like this and
this and this

[21:45] Par (parhelion.palou): Amazon controls its inventory …
nothing in SL is controlled

[21:45] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It would have to be a tour that
would automatically generate based on questions you answer

[21:45] PowerchairDude: I have found it to be ill programmed lol like
the program was not thinking aabout um the average Joe lol everthing
is like that sometimes

[21:45] Sister Abeyante envisions AI (“Bob the Monkey” of Virtual
Ability fame) who replies to a “What do you like to do?” with a couple
of LMs on that topic

[21:45] Pamala Clift: when coming into a new area, but.. I will take..
when I go into a gaming evenvironment something that defines my
character.. questions and choices typifying your presonality of your
character..smile.. like the role play games

[21:46] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Par that is a problem updates sl is moving so fast

[21:46] JenzZa Misfit: What I find about SL to be so different is
this. There really are NOT .. communities of people , neighborhoods,
towns, cities. Its all individuals who own their own land .. large or
small. Unless there is an event going on .. many /most SIMS .. you go
there .. no one there .. even my own. not like RL at all in this
regard.

[21:46] PowerchairDude: my text to speech is crashing

[21:46] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Oh please! Let’s NOT do stuff like Facebook! =

[21:46] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Zinnia that reminds me of the
suggestions you see at the end of a blog post you read

[21:46] Orange Planer: Too late, Gramma!

[21:46] PowerchairDude: fixed it

[21:46] JenzZa Misfit: it is the EVENTS and planned GATHERINGS .. like
the one I was at earlier for this event .. the dancing .. the
chatting. THAT is the community .. its not about an area .. it doesnt
matter where it occurs.

[21:46] Orange Planer: It’s part of the “My Second Life” web pages!

[21:46] Gramma Fiddlesticks: as far as profile sgo orange, you are right.

[21:46] Zinnia Zauber: So, if communities that were alike worked
together then the could help build more connections.

[21:47] Gramma Fiddlesticks: we don’t need anpother Facebook. Let them
do their thing and we’ll do SL.

[21:47] JenzZa Misfit: Zinnia ! BINGO !

[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: wow that leads right into our next goal!

[21:47] CarmenLittleFawn: yes Zinnia

[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: Productive Building of Partnerships and
Professional Relationships
[21:47] Zinnia Zauber: Wow, how did that happen?

[21:47] JenzZa Misfit: like Stone Soup !

[21:47] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[21:48] Sister Abeyante: Back in the early days of “do it yourself web
sites” there was a “web ring”- so if you were on a site about one
topic, there was a list of other sites (web rings) on the same topic
available.

[21:48] Ozma Malibu: Aha!

[21:48] Zinnia Zauber: web rings, yes!

[21:48] CarmenLittleFawn: nods

[21:48] Orange Planer: But it has to be kept up by an organization.

[21:48] Zinnia Zauber: how could we do something like that here?

[21:48] Orange Planer: Easily.

[21:48] PowerchairDude: oh no facebook if it is going to be like just
throwing comments at everyone and the end that would suck

[21:48] JenzZa Misfit: Zinnia ! cuz .. youre wearing your ‘ connect
the dots ‘ HUD .. right ?

[21:48] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): perhaps there is a tools someone
coudl create in SL to allow people to input their site if it is
related and then others can access it to get similar sites

[21:48] Sister Abeyante smiles at Orange the Programme…

[21:49] Orange Planer: Some group creates an organizational structure
that goes around and asks for people to be part of it.

[21:49] Zinnia Zauber: I am!

[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: OR .. PAM .. heres an idea : just a webpage of
some sort …..
[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: think outside the prim !

[21:49] Zinnia Zauber: there you go

[21:49] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes those are all great suggestions!

[21:49] JenzZa Misfit: a webpage ::: where SLURLS and pix and descriptions etc

[21:49] Par (parhelion.palou): Even if LL created the tool and
advertised on their site, the majority of people in SL would never
know about it. There’s no mass media.

[21:49] Orange Planer: Then that organizational group sets up
location(s) in SL where people can go to choose different topics,
which gives them info to web pages/LMs of places.
[21:50] Orange Planer: That organization has to keep up the
information so it’s accurate.

[21:50] PowerchairDude: I web ring

[21:50] JenzZa Misfit: LL is not going to create tools for us .. lol
.. trust me on this

[21:50] PowerchairDude: I would like to have a SL ring

[21:50] Zinnia Zauber: We need to do it ourself!

[21:50] Orange Planer: Or… each group that decides to participate is
asked to self-manage….

[21:50] Par (parhelion.palou): A resident created tool will only reach
a few percent of SL

[21:50] Orange Planer: And is monitored for updates, if necessary.

[21:50] JenzZa Misfit: TO THE TOWN SQUARE !! TORCHES EVERYONE !

[21:50] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[21:50] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[21:51] Sister Abeyante: @ Par- unless it is so good it “goes viral” LOL

[21:51] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): that was so funny i lost the thought i had lol

[21:51] Zinnia Zauber: Well, so do you guys believe that part of
planning a community is to lead by example?

[21:51] Gentle Heron: I can say that updating a list is really really
hard work. Virtual Ability maintains the Path of Support– a virtual
visual demonstration of the peer support systems available in SL. Eme
and her crew have identified over 120 of them… but figuring out
which ones are really valid, accurate, active… that’s so hard!

[21:51] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[21:51] Par (parhelion.palou): There’s no way for anything to go viral
in SL … it’s a group of thousands of independent groups who don’t
know other groups exist.

[21:52] Gramma Fiddlesticks: You might just be surprised at how
information like that can spread though the various groups Par. Just
look at what happened this time last year when the news went around
abouthe mass ejection of members of the Builders Brewery group.

[21:52] JenzZa Misfit: exactly Parhelion

[21:52] Par (parhelion.palou): Sorry, never heard of that

[21:52] Zinnia Zauber: So, what are the things we can do. On our own
to start building these connections.

[21:52] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Its almost like we need a type of
chamber of commerce

[21:52] Ozma Malibu: Are you organizing the structure? Are you saying
it’s us? Because if it’s people, then things don’t have to be so
detailed.

[21:52] Zinnia Zauber: A chamber of awesomeness!

[21:52] Orange Planer: Or….

[21:52] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[21:52] Pamala Clift: yeah I volunteered to be ejected first. and that
crashed the system..lol

[21:52] Lucinda Lavender: :))

[21:53] CarmenLittleFawn: yes like the chamber idea Pam

[21:53] Zinnia Zauber: So, does this seem overwhelming?

[21:53] Orange Planer: We set up a system that people modify
themselves, and we DON’T monitor it.

[21:53] Gramma Fiddlesticks: 17,000 people were ejcted from the BB
group by a membership bot script that went awry. within a week
thousands of those people had rejoined the group becuase of other
groups letting their members know the problem happened.

[21:53] Orange Planer: Let there be dead links.

[21:53] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): is that a group then that could be
elected by the grid? or is that too “organized” for what we want?

[21:53] JayR Cela: @ everyone listening / untill the bone headed folks
at LL embrace Hper-Grid and Open Sim / all this talk is a waste of
time / with in a few years SL will be just like AOL / *GONE Like The
WInd * / *POOF!!* πŸ™

[21:53] Zinnia Zauber: that is great Gramma!

[21:53] PowerchairDude: a library with a SL ring would be nice

[21:53] Ozma Malibu: It’s not overwhelming if we remember the “each
one teach one” idea

[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: what does : by the grid mean ?
[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: you mean ALL of SL ?
[21:53] JenzZa Misfit: that cant be done. period.

[21:54] Zinnia Zauber: great Ozma

[21:54] Orange Planer: JayR – you doomsayers have been saying that for years.

[21:54] Par (parhelion.palou): Copyright problems keep SL away from
the hypergrid

[21:54] Orange Planer: And there are OTHER issues with a hypergrid –
like who owns your inventory?

[21:54] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JenzZa – it could be by whoever
wants to vote in SL

[21:54] JenzZa Misfit: SL is heading for the Steam portal … think it
will be around for a long … LONG time πŸ™‚

[21:54] Gramma Fiddlesticks: copyright problems are an issue with all
the girds from what I can see Par. =

[21:55] Par (parhelion.palou): That’s right … no agreed way to
transfer between them while respecting copyright

[21:55] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @JayR whatever we do here is a
learning experience that can translate to any other virtual setting

[21:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: *grids

[21:55] Par (parhelion.palou): LL is big enough to be sued … the
others aren’t … yet

[21:55] JenzZa Misfit: and how would you get that word out there Pam ?
there is no way to inform all of SL unless you want to pay 1500 US for
a 1 time log in screen msg by LL

[21:55] Ozma Malibu: An election? Interesting idea.

[21:55] Zinnia Zauber: Do you believe that one person can make a difference?

[21:55] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I do Zinnia.

[21:56] Par (parhelion.palou): To a community, yes

[21:56] PowerchairDude: Did links would be just reported by the users
which will sent to the person in charge of the group they are in

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Yay!

[21:56] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): PR has come up a few times – is that
another goal to look at? how can we establish a communication
structure that reaches the most people in SL?

[21:56] Orange Planer: time for bed. Tomorrow’s another day.

[21:56] PowerchairDude: I would also like to see a system that tells u
the last day that link was used

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Take care, Orange.

[21:56] Gramma Fiddlesticks: G’night orange. =)

[21:56] CarmenLittleFawn: nite orange

[21:56] Ozma Malibu: clearly one person can make a difference
especially when other people take what the first person has taught,
change it perhaps, send it on

[21:56] Zinnia Zauber: Excellent Ozma!

[21:57] Sister Abeyante: Is there a HUD of some sort that one can
easily load LMs into? Because, if so, we could get that into the SL
Market place (free) and disseminate it person to person, and then
invite people and groups to “load” it with a few themed LMS that ar
etheir faves.

[21:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): @Good suggestion Sister

[21:57] Pamala Clift: I as well must say good night all.. these
graveyard shifts are zapping any clear thoughts I could contribute
anyway.

[21:57] Sister Abeyante: Replicating the “empty” hud would allow folks
to create their own selections, and have their, or their groups name
on it.

[21:57] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Ozma “Paying Forward” does work. But it’s
a ‘skill” that has to be taught and encouraged to others.

[21:57] CarmenLittleFawn: yes very good idea

[21:57] PowerchairDude: yes

[21:57] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes, it is late here too! I think we
will be wrapping up for tonight

[21:57] Zinnia Zauber: These are amazing ideas!

[21:58] CarmenLittleFawn: night Pamala

[21:58] PowerchairDude: VA has a HUD

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: We have so much to share!

[21:58] Gentle Heron: Lots of HUDs like that… art museums have one,
hunts have them…..

[21:58] Ozma Malibu: In this case we’d be paying forward the concept
of the people powered infrastructure

[21:58] Sister Abeyante: Ok… so the structure or mechanism is out there.

[21:58] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Indeed!

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: We have to be the leaders of what can be.

[21:58] Mrs. G.G. Mauer (aunty.lockjaw): wants a power shopping hud

[21:58] CarmenLittleFawn: mmhmm

[21:58] Gentle Heron: Gramma, maybe that’s the solution to changing
ALL of our communities, RL and SL… teach “paying it forward” as a
moral imperative.

[21:58] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Make sure to connect with each other
and keep working on community! And if you want to follow the plan’s
progress it will be on the website http://www.virtualvision2020.com
thanks for your input and ideas and time!

[21:58] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, I think so.

[21:58] Sister Abeyante: It would then be a “people task” to make the
huds themed and fun to distribute. “Here’s your collection of my
favorite places to fly airplanes!”

[21:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks: I whole heartedly agree Gentle. But I
also know it doens’t happen overnight. It has to be said again and
again and again.

[21:59] Zinnia Zauber: It encourages responsibility and respect when
you Pay it Forward.

[21:59] Gramma Fiddlesticks: yes Zinnia!

[21:59] Dancers Yao: @pam…yes I think that is a good goal…!

[22:00] Ozma Malibu: I love it the themed huds, but I think we need to
start with the simplest idea possible. I don’t know what that idea
would be though.

[22:00] Zinnia Zauber: Yes! Dancers! Yes!

[22:00] CarmenLittleFawn: yes

[22:00] Gramma Fiddlesticks: and you all may think I’m naive, but the
good old “Golden Rule” also still works!

[22:00] Zinnia Zauber: right

[22:00] CarmenLittleFawn: yes it does

[22:00] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): It is important to support your
fellow man – one kind word or deed can sometimes make a huge
difference to someone

[22:01] Zinnia Zauber: yes!

[22:01] Gramma Fiddlesticks: smile to a stranger and see!

[22:01] Dancers Yao: agree…

[22:01] JenzZa Misfit: just sayin … I knew a group that tried that
HUD idea once .. the pass it on .. add to it .. pass it on idea .. it
ended up loaded with adult content LMs and passed around for 2 years
and all pointed back at the original creators of the idea

[22:01] JayR Cela: Untill LL can actually fit more that 40 or so
avatars conferrable y onto a grid at one time / increase prim count /
and finally fix cross border sim crossings it’s like whipping a
deaying horse

[22:01] Zinnia Zauber: How can we end this workshop with a great set
of ideas to help push forward on our goals?

[22:01] Ozma Malibu: how could the idea of paying it forward be linked
to the concept of an infrastructure made up of likeminded groups?

[22:01] Gramma Fiddlesticks: = that’s sad JenzZa, =

[22:02] Par (parhelion.palou): most of SL rarely sees 5 people on a
region at once

[22:02] JenzZa Misfit: just be careful what you do .. this is SL ..
not RL .. and it is huge and full of ‘ everyone ‘

[22:02] Ozma Malibu: How can we inform people in SL of what we want to do?

[22:02] Zinnia Zauber: Some of the things we have discussed take
infrastructure and it sounds like communication is a big part of it.

[22:03] PowerchairDude: I’s there a LM Hud that can only be approved
of by these orgs, and they can receive ideas and add those later

[22:03] Ozma Malibu: Communication is the virtual infrastructure

[22:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): I think it could be helpful if
people went back to their communities and discussed if they thought a
centralized group would be helpful

[22:03] Par (parhelion.palou): We can’t inform everyone in SL of
something. Nobody can.

[22:03] Zinnia Zauber: Wonderful!

[22:03] Ozma Malibu: We can’t inform everyone, but some ways of
letting people know may work better than others.

[22:03] PowerchairDude: soo true

[22:03] Zinnia Zauber: We need to spread the word and turn it into action!

[22:03] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): And if people could explore the idea
of a central method of communication that could reach out to most of
us

[22:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: we can’t in one day par. But over time we
can reach a huge percentage of them.

[22:04] Zinnia Zauber: yes, I think that is worth us all looking for.

[22:04] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): we could all pledge to write one
blog post exploring one of the ideas discussed here today

[22:04] Zinnia Zauber: Great idea!

[22:04] Ozma Malibu: Pam seriously that is a good idea. Because we
would all reach different communities.

[22:04] PowerchairDude: will I would like a joint community HUD the end for now

[22:04] Gramma Fiddlesticks: will there be a transcript of this
meeting posted soemwhere??

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber: Right! We need to find ways to unite.

[22:05] Gentle Heron: That’s the start, Gramma!

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, I will post it on the Nonprofit Commons blog

[22:05] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): yes and we would get even more input
from comments on the posts

[22:05] Ozma Malibu: I think we need to think of solutions that we can
arrange, by ourselves.

[22:05] Zinnia Zauber: nonprofitcommons.org

[22:05] JenzZa Misfit: you would be better served I think to have your
‘ go to for info ‘ place be outside of SL .. a website .. and promote
THAT in SL … that is what is familiar to all people who want to be
avatars .. getting info on the very web itself.

[22:05] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Thanks. I don’t blog myself, but I know
folks who do and if I can point them to a place to read, it will help
a lot.

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: wonderful!

[22:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Good idea Gramma

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: I am so pleased you all joined us today!

[22:06] Ozma Malibu: I don’t blog either, but I have been thinking
“blog post” all night.

[22:06] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes thanks to everyone!

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: I want to thank Pam for sharing her knowhow
about community planning!

[22:06] Dancers Yao: a central communication is important….like
today in LA the traditional news on TV had everyone watching for the
Endeavor space shuttle to land…so maybe we can use the virtual TV on
the Web somehow?

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: And, I want to thank YOU!

[22:06] CarmenLittleFawn: yes πŸ™‚

[22:06] Ozma Malibu: So what is the next step?

[22:06] Zinnia Zauber: You all have wonderful ideas!

[22:07] Namaara MacMoragh: thank you … and everyone for your great
input in the conversation

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: You can make the difference in the world.

[22:07] Dancers Yao: yes thank you Pam and Zinnia

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: Let’s agree to keep making plans to meet again
and share how we can move forward.

[22:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Ozma – myself and others working on
the plan will continue to meet with communities in SL.

[22:07] Ozma Malibu: yes thank you

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: In the meantime, Pay it Forward!

[22:07] JenzZa Misfit: see ? and here in SL .. we CAN all talk at once
! and we DID ! and it works πŸ™‚ you cant do that in RL .. why ? cuz
youre not typing in RL .. youre talking πŸ™‚

[22:07] Zinnia Zauber: lol

[22:07] PowerchairDude: it was cool

[22:07] Gramma Fiddlesticks: something we all should keep in mind,
“social change” (and I think that is what we are talking about here)
takes time. It won’t happen in a day. But we have to begin somewhere
or it will never happen.

[22:07] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Eventually we will take what we have
heard and the input on the surveys online and develop a plan then put
it out for everyone’s reveiw

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Please remember that you are all welcome to all
our Nonprofit Commons Meetings!

[22:08] CarmenLittleFawn: ty Zinnia

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Please get the gift on top of the big cupcake
to get info about the Nonprofit Commons.

[22:08] Zinnia Zauber: Yes, that would be great Pam!

[22:08] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): If anyone wants to work on the plan
just IM me – we can use volunteers for meetings or working on the
actual plan!

[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: I remember … 6 years ago at a Linden Town
Hall meeting .. I spoke up and said : someday .. educators and non
profs and who knows what all .. will be in SL .. and figure out how to
use it for the future and for the good ! and all the porn dorks
laughed at me and called me nuts.
[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: *heh*
[22:09] JenzZa Misfit: whos nutty now ?

[22:09] Zinnia Zauber: Please remember to update your profiles, help
people, and make new friends to connect the dots!

[22:09] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): πŸ™‚

[22:09] Gramma Fiddlesticks: Yes JenzZa! =))

[22:09] Par (parhelion.palou): At least there are some nonprofits and
educational groups left

[22:09] Gramma Fiddlesticks: thanks for having this meeting Zinnia and
pam. And thanks for allowing me to prattle on. =)

[22:09] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you all for joining us! And, like I
always say… you can’t have community without UNITY!

[22:09] Gentle Heron: And new ones coming in, Par!

[22:10] JenzZa Misfit: ( p.s. all those porn dorks bought my
RendeZvous eventually so they could walk and hold hands * double heh*)

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: I love the prattle!

[22:10] Gramma Fiddlesticks: goodnight all! It’s 1am for me!

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you!

[22:10] CarmenLittleFawn: night πŸ™‚

[22:10] Zinnia Zauber: Good night and please take care!

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you for being part of this!

[22:11] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Good night everyone! πŸ™‚

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Some great ideas for our goals have been delivered!

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: thanks everyone .. this was so interesting .. i
hope you all figure it out πŸ™‚

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Pam!

[22:11] CarmenLittleFawn: night pam

[22:11] Brena Benoir: Good night to all leaving

[22:11] Zinnia Zauber: You will be part of it JenzZa!

[22:11] CarmenLittleFawn: Night everybody, tc πŸ™‚

[22:11] Brena Benoir: thanks for joining us!

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: p.s you all rock for your volunteerism etc πŸ™‚ I
am a ruthless capitalist entrepeneur πŸ™‚

[22:11] JenzZa Misfit: I will ? lol

[22:12] Gentle Heron: Thanks Pam and Zinnia for organizing this. And
thanks to everyone who participated and thought about these important
issues.

[22:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): lol

[22:12] Dancers Yao: good night…have good dreams

[22:12] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Thanks so much Zinnia!

[22:12] Zinnia Zauber: Thank you Gentle! You know how to support
community and love all the ideas!

[22:12] Sister Abeyante: Excellent discussion, indeed.

[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: Yes!
[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: I love it!
[22:13] Zinnia Zauber: So many super ideas and from awesome folks!

[22:14] Pam Broviak (pam.renoir): Yes thanks Gentle so much for
participating – you have an awesome community!

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Written by: Zinnia Zauber